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User avatar #73 - Hase (03/19/2012) [-]
In a land called KickApoo

(The first line of this comic)
#71 - latinotornado (03/19/2012) [-]
so am i the only one who thinks this is hella retarted?ive heard this argument over a million times,especually at my highschool"MAN THE GOVERNMENT WONT LEGALIZE WEED CUZ THEY WONT MAKE MONEY OFF IT!!!" lemme tel u why thas sum 			********		.U actually think the government wouldnt make money off of it?they would tax the 			****		 out of it.they would make tons of money off of it.Jus like cigs man theyd be expesnive as 			****		 (more expensive than cigs) AND further more, it wouldnt even be the same weed u kno,the government would put addictive additives in the Marajuana like Nicitine and things to get u hooked so u come back for more.OP is literally retarded for making this
so am i the only one who thinks this is hella retarted?ive heard this argument over a million times,especually at my highschool"MAN THE GOVERNMENT WONT LEGALIZE WEED CUZ THEY WONT MAKE MONEY OFF IT!!!" lemme tel u why thas sum ******** .U actually think the government wouldnt make money off of it?they would tax the **** out of it.they would make tons of money off of it.Jus like cigs man theyd be expesnive as **** (more expensive than cigs) AND further more, it wouldnt even be the same weed u kno,the government would put addictive additives in the Marajuana like Nicitine and things to get u hooked so u come back for more.OP is literally retarded for making this
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#85 to #71 - threesixzero (03/19/2012) [-]
It would be bad for the economy because cannabis can be used to treat hundreds of illnesses; If marijuana were legalized, no one would ever need another Tylenol or Advil, they would go out of business.

It would also be bad for alcohol companies, because some people would choose marijuana over alcohol. All these anti-marijuana ads and propaganda you see are almost always funded by alcohol companies.

Another thing is that since hemp can be used to create thousands of products, a lot of other companies would lose money on their own products. Materials made from hemp (like ropes, clothes, backpacks, hemp oil) last longer, are better than other things like wood and cotton in many ways. This is the original reason hemp was prohibited in 1937.

The government can make a lot of money off of it, but it wouldn't be good for the corporate world.
User avatar #89 to #85 - latinotornado (03/19/2012) [-]
ok i hav to disagree with the alcohol statmenet, u said ppl would choose marijuana over alcohol?why would they need to choose?they could hav both,which is a BAD combo.and yes hemp can be used to creat many many MANY things but cannibis and hemp are LEGAL!!! cannibis and hemp is sold all over the US so its not like legalizing weed is going to change that.smokin weed,is ILLIGAL!also,marijuana isent stronger than the average pain medication -_- and it dosent treat that many illnesses it treats symptoms, but we already hav ******* medication for that, also itll prlbly be more expensive to get a hold of Marijuana to treat u than it would be the other medication.
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User avatar #103 to #89 - KayThanxBye (03/19/2012) [-]
the only reason prices of food and herbal medications go up, is because of availability. Cannabis is a weed, weeds can grow any where, all they need is water and sunlight and patience and you have a literal money tree growing in your garden.
#93 to #89 - threesixzero (03/19/2012) [-]
Some people prefer getting high over getting drunk. I've gotten high before I've ever gotten drunk, and I would wayyyyyy rather choose smoking weed if I had to pick one. I don't even like drinking that much. If both were legal, I wouldn't drink very often, but I would be smoking weed often.

Cannabis is not legal, and owning hemp products is. I could own a hemp shirt, and it won't be illegal. As for growing hemp, it depends on what the exact laws are where you live, you might need a permit.

No one said it is stronger than the 'average pain medication', it's just funner, natural, and can be used to treat hundreds of things instead of just a few. The reason I would choose smoking a joint over taking pills is because it's more natural, cannabis has been used as a medicine for thousands of years now. Just because we have major corporations that make pills for us doesn't mean we should stop smoking marijuana for medicinal purposes. It's not THAT expensive to get some marijuana btw.
User avatar #84 to #71 - laelaps (03/19/2012) [-]
No the government wouldn't make money off of it and legalizing it would solve nothing. Because you were correct in that the government is going to tax the **** out of it because they know so many people love using it. Since they are legally taxing it, it is going to become much more expensive, and people will be more likely to get it off the street or from private dealers for cheaper. And the countries involved in the drug wars will still profit, the mafia will still exploit it and the only thing that will be different is that the government will simply be introducing a drug into a new population who would never dare to try it if it was illegal (aka the law-abiding citizen).
#99 to #84 - anon (03/19/2012) [-]
Hmm well let's see if it were made legal it would be grown outside in fields, each plant if genetically engineered and under the good yellow sun would grow at least half a pound (it would probably be more but whatever, currently you can get around a pound outside if you know what you are doing and with certain strains.) It really would take almost no land at all compared to land available to produce this due to the small amount consumed to get high. Prices would plummet to incredibly low levels. Secondly 50,000 people died in the last five years in drug violence on the Mexican border over the illegal drug trade. Make it legal and then this violence gets reported to police thus dramtically lowering it if not causing it to vanish (Mexico already has decriminilized small amounts and is talking of legalization but won't due to U.S. pressure). Secondly due to price plummets gangs will not get into the drug trade because it will not be profitable thus no drug gang violence. Furthermore every country that has decriminalized to some extent has seen lowering in drug use (Portugal, Amsterdam, Switzerland), So if lowering drug use, saving tens of thousands of lives and stopping the imprisonment of tens of thousands of people doesn't seem like solving anything to you then you should really stop breathing.
User avatar #102 to #99 - AlexK (03/19/2012) [-]
not for or against, but there a a major flaw i see in your argument. if weed becoms unprofitable, then the drug trade shifts to any one of the hundreds of other drugs (probably cocaine) so we're back at step 1.
User avatar #128 to #102 - theivindon (03/19/2012) [-]
The amount of user would decrease massivly, i would never snort, but i do smoke weed. Just because a person smokes weed, doesn't mean he does it to be cool, crimal etc, but because it's enjoiable.
User avatar #188 to #128 - AlexK (03/19/2012) [-]
i realize that, but there are many people who do other drugs like that. that's the problem. to be honest, there will be problems if it's legal or illegal, it just changes what problems there are.
User avatar #87 to #84 - latinotornado (03/19/2012) [-]
which is another reason it shouldnt be legal or even exist at all.
User avatar #88 to #87 - laelaps (03/19/2012) [-]
Correct. I was agreeing with your general philosophy but started off the comment with 'no' because in the end the government really wouldn't make that much money off of it.
User avatar #90 to #88 - latinotornado (03/19/2012) [-]
indeed they would not my friend
User avatar #254 to #90 - msvegeta (03/19/2012) [-]
The government would make more money than they would if they invested money in fighting it
User avatar #74 to #71 - msvegeta (03/19/2012) [-]
Well actually, street marijuana is super dangerous because some dealers lace it with crazy chemical drugs. Marijuana is much stronger than it used to be as a result. If it was legalized, the FDA could control it, and make it much more safe and reliable.
#133 to #74 - anon (03/19/2012) [-]
Also, a lot of weed here in Scotland (and probably the UK) is dipped in chemicals to make it look more crystallised so people think its better weed. Often it is pesticides or other very harmful chemicals that are used which can't be good for you when you smoke them.
User avatar #75 to #74 - latinotornado (03/19/2012) [-]
now see the average teenager dosent know the crazy street dealer who laces their **** .its usualy one teen buying from another teen of jus straight **** .
User avatar #76 to #75 - msvegeta (03/19/2012) [-]
Exactly! That's why it's so dangerous.
User avatar #77 to #76 - latinotornado (03/19/2012) [-]
well i mean even ur erryday run of the mill weed is dangerous in the fact that it gets u high as **** .there are NO benifits to smokin,except the high ass feeling.thats it,forget that its damaging ur body
User avatar #80 to #77 - msvegeta (03/19/2012) [-]
Well, by my logic, alcohol and tobacco is more dangerous, so why is marijuana such and exception?

Have you ever studied prohibition? When alcohol became illegal in the US, criminal organiztions like with Al Capone thrived on the sale of it. The same thing is happening with marijuana. Alcohol is legal again today, and sure, crazy awful **** happens because of it, but there are no gangs peddling it. If we decided that that was better than gangs for alcohol, why should marijuana be any different?

And at least with marijuana you won't have so much domestic violence- alcohol makes ppl angry, marijuana makes ppl calm
User avatar #81 to #80 - latinotornado (03/19/2012) [-]
it also makes them stupid
User avatar #130 to #81 - theivindon (03/19/2012) [-]
Well would you look at that, the kid that writes like he's from the ghetto insulted stoners intelligence. Really kid? If you're going to act all smart and **** , at least write readable.
User avatar #83 to #81 - msvegeta (03/19/2012) [-]
Another thing- a higher percentage of Americans have tried marijuana than Dutch people. (In their country, marijuana is legal). So it seems that legalizing marijuana hasn't dramatically affected the # of ppl that use it in Holland.

When something is illegal, young ppl feel badass for using it. Then when it's legal, it's not so cool anymore, and your problem is (to some extent) solved.
User avatar #86 to #83 - latinotornado (03/19/2012) [-]
ok thats a lil lil kid thing to do it to be badass.i hate to say it but highschoolers r a bit more mature than junior high kids lightin up a fatty. they dont do it to be cool anymore,they literally do it,jus to get high.
User avatar #253 to #86 - msvegeta (03/19/2012) [-]
Just saying then, a higher percentage of kids in a country where it's illegal do it than kids in a country where it's legal

So legalizing won't affect how often ppl use
#63 - anon (03/19/2012) [-]
retard. once again OP is the ultimate fag

#62 - skullbash (03/19/2012) [-]
it doesnt really matter if its legal or not anymore cause people will still smoke it
User avatar #61 - charitar (03/19/2012) [-]
Marijuana was made illegal because if we could grow it, the petroleum companies would go out of business.
#64 to #61 - anon (03/19/2012) [-]
Actually, no. It was a combination of racism against Hispanics and Blacks who enjoyed it, and protection of those whose business interests were threatened by hemp production (William Randolph Hearst and DuPont, to name a few). See this page as a starting point on the history of this issue:
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#60 - crotchmonkey (03/19/2012) [-]
This was stupid.
#59 - rototornik (03/19/2012) [-]
this is how much i care about it being legalized or not.
#55 - Tiblets (03/19/2012) [-]
I started singing Kickapoo after reading the first panel...
#50 - thebeer (03/19/2012) [-]
False! Marijuana is illegal because tobacco companies felt threatened and bribed the Government to ban it in order to make more money in addition to the **** loads they were already making. Before it was banned, marijuana was a key industrial crop used for the same reasons people use to justify legalization today; ropes, paper, clothes, etc.
User avatar #54 to #50 - jlhaehl (03/19/2012) [-]
close but no cigar it was the timber companies that hemp posed to replace on all almost all fronts. thanks for playing though
User avatar #56 to #54 - dmanspeed ONLINE (03/19/2012) [-]
both of you are right and great use of the pun jlhaehl but it was also the cotton companys due to the fact that hemp can be used as clothing.

User avatar #57 to #56 - jlhaehl (03/19/2012) [-]
thought to mention textiles in there, thank you
User avatar #260 to #57 - dmanspeed ONLINE (03/20/2012) [-]
see everybody! a perfect example of an internet conversation without the use of caps lock or the term faggot or other degrading terms! i love you all! in a totally non FAGGOTY way you cunts!

User avatar #261 to #260 - dmanspeed ONLINE (03/20/2012) [-]
wait... goddamn it...

User avatar #47 - misterbonzo (03/19/2012) [-]
The ban on marijuana being lifted wouldn't be all that good for the economy. With pot being illegal, the operations have several people making money, the grower/person in charge, the location provider (if the grower chooses to use one), the dealers the grower sells to (also if the grower sells to anybody), and the dealers the dealers sell to (again, if the dealers sell to other dealers). These people go out and spend money, which helps to stimulate the economy. But then again, I'm no doctor.
#96 to #47 - anon (03/19/2012) [-]
You are economically illiterate, consumption does stimulate economic activity but not economic growth. Savings are a must for economic growth because they directly fund investments by which companies increase productivity. By your logic any sort of increase in productivity that lowers cost of a product is bad for the economy. Lowering costs benefits everyone, other than producers who in this case are about 1 in 10,000 if that compared to 13% or so of American users. Saving money for these 13% of consumers will cause increased stimulation to the economy by their spending of the money they saved and putting some in banks for further investments. Then those who were put out of work by the increase in productivity will enter areas that get increased spending due to the increased saving and subsequent spending by the consumers. Your right, you are no doctor, and neither are you an economist.
#48 to #47 - CottonTail (03/19/2012) [-]
Actually the above statement is mostly false, the economy isn't stimulated from these expenses since very few people actually make the larger quantities of money, now take into account the fact that most distributors simply move their product to distributors on a lower level and so on and so forth until it actually reaches the dealer who will push the product to the consumer. In most cases these dealers will make a decent bit of change, but they will often change who they buy from based on who has what and who has the best prices. The system works in such a way that only the people on top will have a steady income while distributors the chain down will have to deal with the authorities, other dealers and local growers who will most likely be able to undercut them. In my area alone the local distributors have changed many times over in just the past 3 years. There were even times when the 'market' was so flooded that bud was 12.5$/g for pure sativa and 10$/g for indica, during other times only one or two strains may be available and people may pay up to 25$/g for it.
#46 - stickandmove (03/19/2012) [-]
1. Marijuana is a gateway drug.

2. People found guilty of substance abuse alone generally aren't incarcerated.

You ******* deadbeats need something else to talk about.
#97 to #46 - anon (03/19/2012) [-]
Is it ever ok to ruin someone's life by putting them in prison for getting high in the privacy of their own home? Obviously you don't think people found guilty should be incarcerated according to your statement so why just say "Well it shouldn't happen but if it does we are just ruining thousands of people's lives every year, no big deal." Your a piece of **** bastard.
#158 to #97 - stickandmove (03/19/2012) [-]
You aren't hearing me.

People don't get a prison sentence for smoking marijuana. Please stop pretending to know what you're talking about.
User avatar #51 to #46 - sandnigglets (03/19/2012) [-]
alcohols more of a gateway drug than marijuana lol. .
still get arrested, ticketed and charged
really popular controversial topic. .
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User avatar #53 to #51 - warmbuns (03/19/2012) [-]
Of course, it's a gateway to doritos and bad food.
#49 to #46 - CottonTail (03/19/2012) [-]
1. I agree with you FJ is not the place to discuss this.
2. Marijuana itself is not the gateway drug, it is the dealers that lead to exposure of other stronger substances.
3. I hope this pic will bring a little smile to your face at the very least, where this post could not,
User avatar #44 - fuckeverybody (03/19/2012) [-]
Actually, it is because marijuana was going to be used to replace paper. Since paper Companies did not want this, they brought out a ban. <<<This is just 1 of the reasons that it was banned many years ago.
#42 - hellsrazors (03/19/2012) [-]
Another day, another post from a high school student complaining because he can't get high in his parents basement.
#108 to #41 - anon (03/19/2012) [-]
Ron Paul throws a party for people old enough to vote on him.*
User avatar #174 to #108 - lemurdecatta (03/19/2012) [-]
You thumb him down because you know he's right.
Ron Paul is a lunatic anyways.
#37 - anon (03/19/2012) [-]
MFW my country was named in the post!
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#35 - haydenweb (03/19/2012) [-]
on the first panel i instantly thought of "kickapoo" by tenacious D
User avatar #33 - MegaAwesomeSauce (03/19/2012) [-]
One argument for stoners is that weed isn't as bad as alcohol

Alcohol was banned once in america, but after years of protest and men taking to the streets to bring it back again, it was finally revoked and alcohol was brought back. Reason being is that the men that went to protest were honest and trustworthy men who got off their ass and fought for their right to get wasted.

Weed isn't going to get legalized anytime soon because no one takes stoner's seriously. Most stoners are teenagers who couldn't change **** if they tried and the government isn't going to change **** for them. Stoners are too lazy to get off their damn ass and make change anyway so maybe it is for the better. The only way things are going to change are if stoners quit getting high for a moment and actually protest this **** .

I actually find it ironic that Weed prevents them to effectively protest their thoughts.
User avatar #252 to #33 - Mereanonymous (03/19/2012) [-]
the ban on alcohol wasnt lifted because of everyone protesting. the ban was lifted because banning alcohol led to the birth of organized crime, and the crime rate in the u.s. skyrocketed. they got rid of the ban to get rid of the crime rate.
#143 to #33 - anon (03/19/2012) [-]
I find it ironic how you're taking the "high ground" here when a lot of your earlier arguments are based on subjective experiences and personal beliefs. ("being the weed schizophrenia posterboy" & "weed doesn't do anything but waste money")

I'm not saying that some (well, a lot) of the supporters of legalization aren't typical "stoner retards", though. However, there are also a lot of very organized people with intelligent thoughts and logical arguments for legalization of cannabis (NORML, anyone?) who don't want to be branded as criminals simply because they inhale the smoke of a plant. You lumping all supporters of cannabis as "dumb stoners" doesn't do you much credit, as that is obviously not the case.

TL;DR: Nice generalizations you got there, bub.
User avatar #215 to #143 - admiralen ONLINE (03/19/2012) [-]
it is kinda funny when you say that you know normal people who smoke marijuana, since that makes you very different from most of society and btw have you even read about the side effects of cannabis?
#241 to #215 - sanepane (03/19/2012) [-]
I don't browse "abovetheinfluence", if that's what you're asking. And concidering that I do indulge in cannabis use, I am quite aware of how it works along with it's side-effects (that is not to imply that I haven't read articles about it's potential "hazards" as well, which I have). Compared to most other intoxicants, those side-effects are mild, and close-to-none of them are permanent.

Also, not every pot smoker is a hippie and not everyone likes to make their "drug use" publicly known. I dare say that you seem to be making your judgements while looking only at the tip of the iceberg.

This is my account, by the way. I forgot to log on when I posted my original comment.
User avatar #266 to #241 - admiralen ONLINE (03/20/2012) [-]
ok ok, so ur the 2% then?
#268 to #266 - sanepane (03/21/2012) [-]
Pic related
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#235 to #215 - olioh ONLINE (03/19/2012) [-]
#196 to #143 - wookymunster (03/19/2012) [-]
Sees you with a thumb down for giving a valid counter-argument
Thumbs you back up.
#242 to #196 - sanepane (03/19/2012) [-]
Thank you. :)
#111 to #33 - zippox (03/19/2012) [-]
There is actually a protest in Oslo, Norway every year for legalization of weed.
User avatar #183 to #111 - TheNorwegianSmurf (03/19/2012) [-]
There is? Why didn't I know of this? o.O
User avatar #118 to #111 - playfaire (03/19/2012) [-]
When is this?
#245 to #118 - zippox (03/19/2012) [-]
Beginning of May sometime I think it is
User avatar #259 to #245 - playfaire (03/20/2012) [-]
Thanks! Could be worth going to.
#58 to #33 - skullbash (03/19/2012) [-]
most stoners dont care if it illegal cause there gonna smoke it anyway so theres no real need to change things
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User avatar #34 to #33 - thatscrewedupkid (03/19/2012) [-]
imagine the protests, "WHAT DO WE WANT?"
User avatar #30 - sphighderman [OP](03/19/2012) [-]
Hey guys, thanks for top 100. Some of you seem to have the misconception that I actually believe this is how it happened. No, bad internet. If you want a more in-depth introspective, I'd recommend "The Union." It's free and online, on YouTube in fact. Someone posted a link to it on FJ lower, go scouring for it.
#32 to #30 - CargeLock (03/19/2012) [-]
>recommending "The Union"
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