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User avatar #160 - PubLandlord (03/19/2012) [-]
Brilliant becuase a country full of stoners would be productive, people who smoke a lot of weed are much more worse off than those who don't
User avatar #248 to #160 - Mereanonymous (03/19/2012) [-]
true, id rather live in a country full of people smoking weed then drinking.
#164 to #160 - tawals (03/19/2012) [-]
yea, most of the stoners i know smoke whenever they can afford it and its a lot more addictive than alcohol, cant stand this new religion
User avatar #162 to #160 - americanplague (03/19/2012) [-]
Uhh, legalizing something doesn't automatically force everyone in the country to start doing it, smoking and drinking are perfectly fine, but we don't have a country full of abusive assholes who can't beat their wives because of shortness of breath. It's called free will, people are capable of deciding what they want to do and when.
User avatar #239 to #162 - PubLandlord (03/19/2012) [-]
Actually look at the UK , 150,000 people in 2009 were prescribed drugs for alcohol dependency and 7000 deaths. Alcohol is the single most damaging drug to society. Just because some people have the ability to control themselves doesn't mean that everyone does, you could then argue that heroin and cocaine should be legal
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User avatar #227 to #182 - americanplague (03/19/2012) [-]
It's hard to reply to someone who ais as misinformed as you are, but I will make an attempt, yes, weed ruins memory, but so do a lot of substances, soda is damaging to the body, let's illegalize it. And if we want to say that weed is harmful in large doses so it can't be legalized, then let's outlaw water since that can kill you in large doses. And people aren't addicted to it, sure there's the mental addiction that goes to the extent of a person just wondering what something would be like if they were high, but nothing serious. So no, pot smokers don't fight for it because they have a problem, they fight for it because it is wrong to throw innocent people into a system that trains human beings to be animals.
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User avatar #263 to #231 - americanplague (03/20/2012) [-]
Truthfully, no I'm not another weedfag, I smoked when I was younger, yes, but not anymore, I don't have the time for it, like a lot of people who know how to prioritize their lives. So there are the people who don't know how to handle a substance, if we were to illegalize everything that caused a minor inconvenience to a select group of people we would be more of dictated nation, so I fight for the legalization not for my wanting to get high, nor just for others to get high, there is a much larger picture and there really is no need to have this stuff criminalized.
#197 to #182 - renzard (03/19/2012) [-]
Your jimmies, however, seemed to have greatly been rustled.
User avatar #192 to #182 - Kaiserlome (03/19/2012) [-]
Alcohol ***** you up WAY more than weed. They're both about as addictive as fast food, if you're addicted to weed then YOU'RE weak. I don't want to be put in prison because some other people are too weak to regulate their own lives. People like that SHOULD be detested like the way we treat heavy-drinkers.
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User avatar #224 to #220 - Kaiserlome (03/19/2012) [-]
Of course they're trying to make it seem normal, just as gay people try to make homosexuality seem normal. Just as black people try to make different races seem normal. It's just the logical reaction to being oppressed.

I smoke weed, and I don't doubt that it has negative side affects BUT when I start experiencing them I just stop smoking for a while. If it started becoming too much then I would give up all together, it's actually not hard. I would never ingest any drug that I didn't find beneficial. I took mdma once, which makes you incredibly open. I ranted on about everything that I could possibly say then when removed from inhibition. But MDMA is bad for you, so I chose to NEVER take it again. I have already got every benefit I could possibly take from it so I have no reason to do it again. I don't take any drugs that are just painkillers like opiates.

My drug of choice would be mushrooms, they are the OPPOSITE to addiction. Every time I take them I decide not to do it again for a LONG time as most people do. It's impossible to take it the next day as you get a very high tolerance after doing it. The days after taking it I get really motivated to do well in school and work harder at every aspect of my life.

Drugs have improved me socially, intellectually and morally. And I don't plan on doing them for the rest of my life. They are tools and are absolutely wonderful if used correctly.
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User avatar #229 to #226 - Kaiserlome (03/19/2012) [-]
I suppose. But I think it's the price of freedom. Even as they remain illegal, I would hope people be educated on them. A lot of the information we are taught about drugs are lies and exaggerations, we are never told how to use them responsibly if we ever decide to. I did have to read A LOT about everything I do, I spend a lot of time researching any active substance before putting it in my body and REALLY helps.
#193 to #182 - doodthedud (03/19/2012) [-]
never had weed, never have any intention of having it.

The issue is more about precedents being set. Yeah, it can **** you up if abused, but so can alcohol, and cigarettes. And yet those are legal.
Why would the government ban one thing and not the other when they are so similar. That seems to be the real issue. It's a free country.
User avatar #238 to #193 - PubLandlord (03/19/2012) [-]
Watch the documentary by David Nutt about relative harms of drugs , alcohol is really high up on the list as being dangerous, but for most people I know they only drink really heavily once a week on a night out, and then work the rest of the week, or drink a small amount each night.

My arguement comes from all the people I know that smoke weed do so on pretty much a daily basis , have no incentive to work, revise and have dropped out of university. I know its not the same for everyone that smokes it but too many people argue that cannabis isn't addictive or habit forming, and that there would be no bad consequences of people doing it.

You want to legalize a drug, choose mdma
#243 to #238 - doodthedud (03/19/2012) [-]
But alcohol causes the same problems. The government tried to ban it for the same reasons and that failed miserably. At the end of the day, it's a free country, that means we can't run people's lives at all, for better or for worse. It's their dexision to make, not the government's.
User avatar #262 to #243 - PubLandlord (03/20/2012) [-]
Actually I think it is the governments decision, the government needs to step in and take charge, becuase although thats what "the people" want it's not what they need.

Government intervention isn't trying to "run" peoples lives but there needs to be system where an authority can step in and limit damaging things to society.

A heroin addict might argue that it is his body why can he not take a substance, but it's illegal because there is a high chance of him ruining his life, stealing to fund a habit, getting seriously ill and costing money to the NHS and then dying, the governments role is to try and help people, thus making a substance illegal.
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