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(03/20/2017)[-]

How it should have ended - I hope they didn't nerf Jack somehow! He went from the best of the best of the best, to borderline woobie.

Not only does he have the talent and skill from all the masters he had trained under, but now he has 50 more years under his belt!

#79 to #10 - swaggerowagon

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(03/21/2017)[-]

i just assumed it was because he is so mentaly ****** that it is impacting his fighting a great deal

#56 to #10 - amuzen#288 on commentsRank#288

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(03/21/2017)[-]

I just started rewatching the series because I want to see the whole thing in order before watching the new episodes and he really stresses that he NEEDS his sword to fight in a lot of the early episodes. I think most weapons just shatter against the hard metal carapaces of the robots he fights and he has deep moral struggles about killing anything else so Jack minus magic sword would be quite a nerf. Specifically the one where Aku pretends to be a woman he runs off leaving her to fight alone (much to her surprise) when they first meet so he can grab his sword then when he joins her she says 'took you long enough' and he says 'I need my sword'.

#46 to #10 - iom

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(03/20/2017)[-]

in all fairness every single weapon he had that wasnt his sword got broke. its not his skill its the fact that they have superior weapons

#38 to #10 - cheatman

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(03/20/2017)[-]

I think he's ******* up because of his mental state more than anything. Self doubt and guilt about not completing his objective have probably wracked his mind so much that he panicked when he got jumped. Even in the Scaramouche fight he briefly went into a delirium when he saw the spirits of those children.

Bets are on in the next few episodes he gets his **** together, goes after his sword and then heads off to finish it with Aku.

#37 to #10 - heavenwave#435 on commentsRank#435

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(03/20/2017)[-]

That's what I've been trying to explain to ******. Jack has been battling all his life and he's atleast 70 now, but he's still in peak physical condition. All that combat XP plus the body to dish out the skills, why the hell is he getting his dick knocked in the dirt?

#83 to #37 - anon id: c00732b6

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(03/21/2017)[-]

He's mentally exhausted, which causes physical exhaustion. He's unsure about his path in life. All these things were vitally important for him to be at his best. A oneness of mind, body, and spirit.

All of you people just see sword swinging and think "Oh it's because he know how to swing sword that he's good", completely forgetting that he is SAMURAI, and not just some low-brow thug with a club.

Not to mention that these assassins are trained as he was, under conditions just as harsh, with even less mercy. They grew up with death nipping at their heels, for the one and sole purpose of hard-countering Samurai Jack.

They are not assassins with good skills sent after Jack like the rest. They are SAMURAI JACK ASSASSINS sent to kill Jack with skills made for killing Samurai Jack himself.

He is facing his hard-counter pick while he's all ****** up in the head, body, and soul. The man is weighed down by all the people who he couldn't or chose not to save, he's been wanting to kill himself for how long now? He doesn't even have his sword. He is samurai, that sword WAS his identity. His body. It's gone.

Get it together folks.

#84 to #83 - heavenwave#435 on commentsRank#435

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(03/21/2017)[-]

I think you're overestimating them a bit. Yeah they were trained, but Jack's still got decades more training. Way more teachers and actual fights under his belt against multiple aliens, hunters, and demons.

This whole "hard-counter" thing confuses me because like I said, they've never met him before this.
They've got no way to know what it is he knows or how to counter it. Also, he's fought 8, not 7 but 8 more dangerous assassins before who actually had dirt on him. He wasn't getting demolished with blatant fear on his face

#85 to #84 - anon id: c00732b6

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(03/21/2017)[-]

You really don't think that after five decades of Jack being famous across the world and of him fighting legion after legion of mooks, and all the best assassins and hunters Aku could buy out of the galaxy, no one has any idea of how Samurai Jack fights? You're gonna smoke that?

#87 to #85 - heavenwave#435 on commentsRank#435

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(03/21/2017)[-]

Not enough to where they know exactly what his moves are and how he strikes and how to reverse it. Not when said "no-one" is a secret group of psychos with no actual ties to aku or his assassins. Not when the same "no-one" lives in a cave with no magic or technology to pick off Jack's moves. No. At most they know he's dangerous and a master swordsman

#81 to #37 - anon id: b8430fcc

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(03/21/2017)[-]

#67 to #37 - westylegity

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(03/21/2017)[-]

I don't know, I mean the physical limit of a man is still a thing for him.
Look at it this way:
A man at peak physical fitness with decades, nearly a century of training and combat experience
V
SEVEN human assassins trained since birth with the sole purpose to fight that one man.

The episode makes it very clear Jack basically only fights robots or aku. AI isn't smart nor fast enough to adjust like Jack can which is why he struggles so much against the girls. Not only that, but they used their initial upper hand to strip him of all his external advantages, reducing him to an unarmed man verse 7 assassins each armed with different weapons. The fact he made it out with just the one dagger wound and a kill despite how frequently and furiously they attacked him is a feat in its own right.

#71 to #67 - heavenwave#435 on commentsRank#435

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(03/21/2017)[-]

I still can't get past the century of training and war vs at most 30 years of training in a cave against other humans. Jack had fought 8 sentient, heavily armed androids. who've had data of Jack's fighting installed in their very being. and they were powered by aku personally.

I mean what information do they even have on Jack's abilities besides word of mouth? How are they even able to disarm jack initially? Why wasn't jack fast enough to counter em when he's been fast enough to deflect bullets and other projectiles moving at bullet speed? Where are all his seemingly superhuman senses?

#80 to #71 - mamsstew

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(03/21/2017)[-]

I think they are trying to keep this final season consistent with his abilities. I remember watching the show and I know for a fact that Jack's superhuman senses would vary greatly between episodes

#77 to #71 - westylegity

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(03/21/2017)[-]

I guess it boils down to purpose. At the start, Jack was focused and determined. Driven by his purpose, always willing to help others. Now he's struggling against his own inner demons constantly.
Another thing is his immunity to time. Almost every form of literature out there that explores the idea of a person becoming immune to the effects of time changes them on the fundamental level, usually driving them mental. He says he is still seeking a way back but we've already heard from Aku that he's destroyed all forms of time travel available. What's to say Jack also knows this and is basically torn between wanting it all to end and wanting to get back?

Beyond all this, why are we not allowed to see our hero as a mortal man? In all the eps it follows a similar formula, he's presented with a problem, that problem throws him around a bit and then he learns how to solve it and does so. There's nothing wrong with breaking down the plot armor that protected jack for so long and making it feel more real.

#82 to #77 - heavenwave#435 on commentsRank#435

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(03/21/2017)[-]

>>#73, >>#75, I'll give you that. I personally don't know how powerful mental exhaustion, suicidal thoughts, and insanity are. Definitely don't know the affects it would have on a man like Jack. I'm under the impression he was molded to be able to deal with all that better than an average man. He's been raised in battle and death and war.

It's not that I expect him to be untouchable, he never was, but he's never taken a beating that bad. No matter the odds. On top of that, I'd assume he's more dangerous than he was before. I was only taken aback by just how easy a couple of ninja punks, under his skill level, can pass him around like a common cold

#75 to #71 - snipys

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(03/21/2017)[-]

we repeat. mentally exausted as ****, its obvous he has ptsd from those two episodes, he is even considering killing himself!

#73 to #71 - ooi

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(03/21/2017)[-]

I know people who suffer from PTSD, that really cripples you.
To add to that he is also mentally exhausted, from 50 years of failure that also limits him.

#62 to #37 - havockwzy

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(03/21/2017)[-]

he is mentally worn out, that's for sure.

#55 to #37 - anon id: c097e011

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(03/21/2017)[-]

**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image** minus Magical sword.

#57 to #55 - heavenwave#435 on commentsRank#435

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(03/21/2017)[-]

He fought Aku in a graveyard with no sword and still did better until the end of the fight. The sword's magic but I don't remember it affecting his ability to fight

#66 to #57 - theiceknight

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(03/21/2017)[-]

do it faggots you wont

#30 to #10 - anon id: fd4c9772

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(03/20/2017)[-]

50 years of being despondent. 50 years of hopeless wandering. Doubt he's at 100%.

#28 to #10 - europe#200 on commentsRank#200

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(03/20/2017)[-]

And he fought extremely well against 7 highly trained women who all had their own preferred gear and put all their heart in their quest to defeat Jack, while he doesn't even have his favored weapon and is an inch away from breaking down and crying

#18 to #10 - thechosentroll#34 on commentsRank#34

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(03/20/2017)[-]

When I look at them I can't help but think about the episode with these guys, who pretty much dunked his ass and would have killed him if it weren't for their creator helping Jack stop them by giving him a robotic arm. Sure, he managed to kill one of them on his own, but if it weren't for the deus ex machina strapped to his arm, he would have been ******. So, he actually fared better against the daughters of Aku then against those guys. Not to mention the fact that he spent those 50 years fighting with a sword. He may be a master of quite a few weapons, but he's still mainly a swordsman. So until he gets it back, he's got a pretty major handicap.

#36 to #18 - killerkongformoney

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(03/20/2017)[-]

Jack is like a mix between Bruce Lee and Batman. He has the skills necessary to take down enemies and assassins with fighting styles he can recognize, but if taken off guard by fighters with multiple methods of combat or are more skilled than him, we will choose retreat to a more advantageous position or to train a skill he will need to defeat them.

#35 to #18 - brokenmarble

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(03/20/2017)[-]

Well he did get a sword at one point of the episode. Remember how that turned out?

#69 to #35 - slenderwolf

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(03/21/2017)[-]

Yeah, he got one kill and got himself prison shanked.

#12 to #10 - brokenmarble

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(03/20/2017)[-]

Well, seven to one, ambushed, and by people who have trained their whole lives specifically to kill him. He gets out, dodges them multiple times and murders one of them - I'd say that's pretty well done.

"It always seems bad at first, but then I find a way."

#23 to #12 - comicexplain

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(03/20/2017)[-]

I'm super curious to the Grim that keeps following him around! I'm wondering if it's just another merc, of perhaps it actually is the personification of his doubt/despair. I'm also curious to know, if he defeats him, that when he's defeated, perhaps Jack might re-obtain his sword! That'd be neat.

Though it'd also be neat to see him Swordless till the end of the season!

Thechosentroll

#86 to #23 - thechosentroll#34 on commentsRank#34

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(03/21/2017)[-]

The what now? The ****** a Grim?

#59 to #23 - amuzen#288 on commentsRank#288

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(03/21/2017)[-]

It could be something akin to the personification of Jacks hatred that Aku made in one of the earlier episodes except this time made out of despair or sorrow or something like that.

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