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#91 - anon (05/16/2014) [+] (12 replies)
stickied by lulzdealer
America has been getting it's ass kicked by filthy under-equipped guerilla insurgents.

Them fighting a powerful opponent with a similar level of tech and curb-stomping them?

Also plz explain how America "curbstomps" China without this going Nuclear? Pretty sure China could just starve you economically anyway.
#14 - navien (05/16/2014) [-]
#16 to #14 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
Most of the United State's debt is to itself.
#17 to #16 - navien (05/16/2014) [-]
I know but the U.S will have less debt.
#3 - letrollzor ONLINE (05/15/2014) [-]
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User avatar #22 - naitsabesh (05/16/2014) [-]
China is sick of japan's kawaii desu ne **** .
User avatar #107 - nthmetal (05/16/2014) [-]
"Japan if you attack China I will kick the stripes off of you."

Would have been a better line.
#111 to #107 - lulzdealer ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
That is legitimately funny.
User avatar #18 - Fjcf (05/16/2014) [-]
South Park How Chinese People view to the Japanese East asian diversity.
#110 - atomicpandafart (05/16/2014) [-]
China's flag was different before and during world war 2. It was only changed in 1949 when Mao Zedong and his communist regime took over the country. The reason they were able to was because the Chinese nationalist army was depleted from the war with japan and the communist just sat it out. It was an easy over throw, and the remaining nationalist fled to Taipei and Taiwan. This is the flag of china during the first part of the historical cartoon. Which is also the flag of Taiwan.
#92 - repostsrepost (05/16/2014) [-]
Since everyone is chiming in with a US vs China war scenario, here's mine. US has like 10x the amount of aircraft carriers and China'a only one is a 1960s Soviet knockoff. With air and naval superiority the US can destroy all of China's defenses before landing a troop. Everyone focuses on how strong and how big the army is, well no, air superiority wins wars. Like Napoleon said "Artillery is the lord of the battlefield"
#94 to #92 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
Nukes
#114 to #94 - repostsrepost (05/16/2014) [-]
No country is dumb enough to use nukes against someone who has them.
#98 to #92 - itsbendingtime (05/16/2014) [-]
You seriously underestimate how many people live in China and how fanatically loyal they are to their country.
You cannot invade mainland China, however China cannot even get close to the US coast.
#115 to #98 - repostsrepost (05/16/2014) [-]
Oh yeah, I never said it wouldn't be way too costly for both sides. I'm also not really talking about the kind of war most people are used to nowadays where you go in take them out form a "democracy" and dick around for 10 years or more waiting to get shot at. Once you get past the coastal cities, Shanghai, Beijing, and Guanzhou, the rest of China isn't really worth attacking. Will be too costly and you won't get a whole lot out of it. You don't need to take over everything to win, just need to do enough damage to fix whatever beef started it all. That all being said, it is likely going to be extremely difficult, costly and not a very good idea overall, I'm just saying in the end, if the American government isn't stupid which is not a safe thing to assume they should have a clear advantage.
#1 - newdevyx (05/15/2014) [-]
Since when has china wanted to attack Japan?
Since when has china wanted to attack Japan?
User avatar #24 to #1 - jimmytwoshoes (05/16/2014) [-]
dat ******* E 100...
User avatar #10 to #1 - drakevil (05/16/2014) [-]
Hm, let me see...

It's 1:12am here, take the time zone, day 16, month of may, 2014...

So let make some calculations... Hmmmm...

Yeah, since ever...
#21 to #1 - unknovne (05/16/2014) [-]
nanjing massacre, you know when japanese officers had the "who can chop a 100 civilian heads of the fastest race" or the "how long can does it take for 10 scholars in a hole to sufficate experiment" and not to forget the rape everyone in sight sunday, force a man to rape his own daughter monday and wacky wednesday in which we storm a university and hack and slash at everyone we meet.

TlR japanese festivals are brutal.
User avatar #49 to #1 - removekimchi (05/16/2014) [-]
Since forever
#2 to #1 - joshthepoet (05/15/2014) [-]
since they found out your mom was living there
#5 to #1 - letrollzor ONLINE (05/15/2014) [-]
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#4 to #1 - lulzdealer ONLINE (05/15/2014) [-]
Since ever. China and Japan have hated each other for quite a while now.
#101 to #4 - kmichel (05/16/2014) [-]
It doesn't help that he Chinese government spreads the lie that Japan has never apologized for its actions in China. China also stirs up feelings against Japan to manipulate its people.
User avatar #6 to #1 - mightypoggers (05/15/2014) [-]
One of the main reasons they hate eachother in todays world is because of recent disputes over control of some islands.
User avatar #7 to #1 - ninjagaiden (05/15/2014) [-]
Read a history book.

Japan is the asshole of history.
#8 to #7 - jakatackka (05/16/2014) [-]
Hence the flag.
#15 to #8 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
goatse
User avatar #69 to #7 - reginleif (05/16/2014) [-]
All Island nations are the assholes of history. :/ Low resources tend to make aggressive assholes.

Better include frozen nation, oh and desert nations.

Guise, I found the way to world peace, let's all move to brazil.
#78 to #69 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
>Tfw Australia has high resources and minds it's own business.
We are the exception.
#80 to #78 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
OOOOR, it's because you can't fight both other people and the giant spider lizards that roam free around the place.
User avatar #82 to #80 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
You uneducated bastard, we don't fight giant spider lizards. We tame them and use them as war machines against the terrors that rise up from the ocean every year to take us back to the briny deep.
#63 to #7 - janosaudron ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
I wouldn't say asshole of history. They've just been bred to fight since the founding of the country. Once the Sengoku Jidai ended they just needed to find someone to fight other than themselves
#27 to #7 - ripgeckosncherios (05/16/2014) [-]
I was under the impression most people would agree Germany's history is the least flattering
User avatar #29 to #27 - huszti (05/16/2014) [-]
cut us some slack. we had to put up with france for centuries.
#30 to #29 - ripgeckosncherios (05/16/2014) [-]
well yeah they were pretty mean bullies, especially with Napoleon. Only fair to take revenge?
User avatar #31 to #27 - ninjagaiden (05/16/2014) [-]
You have to dig deeper.
#13 to #1 - funnyjunkelite (05/16/2014) [-]
Both countries have been attacking each other since beginning of time, Japan did some crazy 			****		, China gets pissed, China did some crazy 			****		, Japan gets pissed. Japan kept doing crazy 			****		, Koreans get pissed. Japan just wouldn't stop doing crazy 			****		, entire continent is pissed. Japan still went 			*******		 on 			****		, US gets pissed. US finally ends Japan doing crazy 			****		 with treaties and 			****		. China becomes commie, North Koreans become commie also. Japan and China go 			*******		 about little islands. Both still pissed about each others crazy 			*******		 past. Japan can't attack since they're bonded with treaty about attacking after they've been attacked. US has to come and shake its anti-commie stick. South Korea too busy with retarded commie sister to get involved.   
TL;DR since ever, along with several other countries
Both countries have been attacking each other since beginning of time, Japan did some crazy **** , China gets pissed, China did some crazy **** , Japan gets pissed. Japan kept doing crazy **** , Koreans get pissed. Japan just wouldn't stop doing crazy **** , entire continent is pissed. Japan still went ******* on **** , US gets pissed. US finally ends Japan doing crazy **** with treaties and **** . China becomes commie, North Koreans become commie also. Japan and China go ******* about little islands. Both still pissed about each others crazy ******* past. Japan can't attack since they're bonded with treaty about attacking after they've been attacked. US has to come and shake its anti-commie stick. South Korea too busy with retarded commie sister to get involved.
TL;DR since ever, along with several other countries
#20 to #13 - brassydolphin ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
>retarded commie sister
User avatar #19 to #13 - alfibrakiz (05/16/2014) [-]
comment of the day. thanks for the laugh
#25 to #13 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
US gets pissed. US finally ends Japan doing crazy **** by dropping nukes on them.

-Fixed it for you.
#26 to #25 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
The Japs are so crazy the only way to stop them doing crazy **** was to nuclurize them. HerpDerp.
#77 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
Wow! It's almost as if things change.
User avatar #37 - mrnaanbread (05/16/2014) [-]
I think China's more powerful than America isn't it?
User avatar #50 to #37 - yunoknow (05/16/2014) [-]
China can easily destroy the US economy with the amount of debt owed to them, but the world can't allow the US to crumble. So this whole situation is pretty much balancing on China's patience with US dominance.
#89 to #50 - repostsrepost (05/16/2014) [-]
That's a double edged sword. Without the treasury bonds that they buy, the Yuan will appreciate greatly to the levels it should be at which will cause the price of Chinese Exports to rise and since the Chinese economy is at the economic development South Korea was at in the 60s where it relies primarily on cheap exports, the Chinese economy would not survive. And China doesn't even own a majority of US debt, although they are the biggest foreign holder.
User avatar #74 to #50 - reginleif (05/16/2014) [-]
Why'd you thumb him down, he's right. China could do some serious economic damage to the world, but the brilliant part is they'd damage themselves too. By calling in their debts there would stop there immense growth, and they have a large population that's built on overthrowing their government.

Ladies and gentlemen, we are in possession of a debt bomb.
User avatar #52 to #37 - nigeltheoutlaw (05/16/2014) [-]
They have an insane amount of available troops that they could throw at an enemy, like the Soviets, but quantity does not mean quality. Our troops are overall better trained, better supplied, better armed, and have higher tech equipment than the Chinese soldiers. So, no.
#59 to #52 - widar (05/16/2014) [-]
"Quantity has a quality all of its own" - Zhukov
#61 to #59 - janosaudron ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
That obviously didnt help russia against finland
User avatar #81 to #59 - willindor (05/16/2014) [-]
Didn't Stalin say that?
User avatar #62 to #59 - nigeltheoutlaw (05/16/2014) [-]
True, but they can't effectively move those troops, and they do jack **** in terms of naval, air, or armor capabilities.
#60 to #37 - itsasecrettoyou ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
Because most of these other people replying to you have no idea what they are talking about let me help you out

China does have the largest standing army in the world, but it is a defensive force. They have little to nothing in the way of force projection capabilities (I.E. the ability to move troops and wave your dick around in foreign nations.) This is due to most of their military actions having been dealing with domestic issues,

America's military on the other hand is practically built on force projection, as we have never had to fight a war on our own soil. Our navy is stronger then the combined forces of every other navy on the planet, and our navy's air units alone outnumber and outclass the entirety of China's air capabilities.

So in conclusion, China may have a larger army, but most of their gear is a sub-par knock off of a European or American design. Furthermore, any fight between the US and China would likely be done through proxy wars or in China's territory, as they have no way to get troops across either ocean due to our complete air and naval superiority.

However, that would never come to pass as we are now in the nuclear age. If it ever came to point where troops were marching on Beijing/Washington D.C. the losing side would start tossing nukes and the whole world would die.
#83 to #60 - willindor (05/16/2014) [-]
Last time the US and China had a war it didn't end well.
User avatar #113 to #60 - mrnaanbread (05/16/2014) [-]
Ah okay, well that's the kind of reply I was hoping for; friendly and informative. I guess I pissed a few people off.
#100 to #60 - kmichel (05/16/2014) [-]
Don't forget that China's military is also largely untested. Before they go into a major conflict, they'll want to test their weapons and strategies on countries they know they can defeat.
User avatar #38 to #37 - bendingtimeisgood ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
That's not what our insane military budget says.
User avatar #53 to #38 - herecomesjohnny (05/16/2014) [-]
all china has to do is demand america to pay its debts for the budget to let go of military
#55 to #53 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
All the United States has to say is no, or call upon all the debts everyone else owes us.
User avatar #56 to #55 - herecomesjohnny (05/16/2014) [-]
if the U.S violates international law by bullying, the whole world turns against them, every defense treaty they have with other countries won't get renewed out of distrust, and all their military bases start packing.
User avatar #71 to #56 - reginleif (05/16/2014) [-]
Eh no they won't because you forget that America doesn't get military treaties by having countries LIKE them, they get them because other nations are bigger assholes.

Case in point the Phillipines, they were asses to the US, kicked the US out of the country a short while later they come running back on account of China *********** them out of Islands.

NATO is there not cause ****** ass countries like estonia likes us but because they fear the Russians and we don't want the Soviet Union. As of right now other nations are considering NATO membership and current NATO nations want MORE US presence in their country.

If China becomes an asshole we'll suffer, but we won't go down millitarywise.
User avatar #72 to #71 - herecomesjohnny (05/16/2014) [-]
The US taking what it wants without answering for it is the equivalent of being the bigger asshole.
User avatar #73 to #72 - reginleif (05/16/2014) [-]
Because clearly that's being represented right now with China claiming an entire sea, and Russia annexing foreign countries.

Don't be ignorant. The US works by puppet governments not land grabs.
User avatar #75 to #73 - herecomesjohnny (05/16/2014) [-]
the US refusing to pay its foreign debt would clearly be a violation on par with military **** . The country would face charges in face of international law all the same
User avatar #76 to #75 - reginleif (05/16/2014) [-]
In a situation where the US wouldn't pay it's debt there would have to be a huge rift between China and the US where China would call it in.

Now I dunno what you think about international law, but nobody is going to give a **** if the US refuses to pay China on account of China trying to force the US to do something.

User avatar #79 to #76 - herecomesjohnny (05/16/2014) [-]
>no one would give a **** if China, with its autocratic governement that can dictate economical policies on a whim, decides to stop being the US' workshop

don't be ignorant
#105 to #79 - killingoffstars (05/16/2014) [-]
Here's something for you, If China calls in the United States' debt to be payed the US would do the same to them because if you don't seem to know how governments work. So at that point the US would, yes, still be in debt to China however it would no longer have one of the worlds largest importers to help pay for anything anymore and the US would get its crap elsewhere, Hell it could start up its own industries again. So like you said "don't be ignorant' politics is one of the most complex things on the planet.
User avatar #106 to #105 - herecomesjohnny (05/16/2014) [-]
US is consumer powerhouse and certainly not an industrial one
#84 to #72 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
welcome to the world. It revolves around rich americans being the biggest cunts in the universe.
User avatar #64 to #56 - nigeltheoutlaw (05/16/2014) [-]
How is calling in our debts bullying?
User avatar #65 to #64 - herecomesjohnny (05/16/2014) [-]
this was about the 'saying no' part. Also, america owes more than it is owed.
User avatar #66 to #65 - nigeltheoutlaw (05/16/2014) [-]
My mistake there.

Most of our debt is owed to the Federal Reserve, not China.
#90 to #53 - repostsrepost (05/16/2014) [-]
That's not how debt works. You can't just say pay everything now, it's based on structured payments that are codified in contracts over a period of years. Nobody will see a move like that as legitimate.
#40 to #38 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
China does have the largest military in the world.
User avatar #41 to #40 - trojandetected (05/16/2014) [-]
I believe you mean NORTH KOREA
Do i please you admin?
#48 to #40 - lave (05/16/2014) [-]
Hap tot burst it, US does not by much though. but we still do sheer numbers, around 60% of our population is either a soldier or cop.
User avatar #47 to #40 - tazzerz ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
Quality>Quantity

Just because there is a lot of them doesn't mean they are all as well equipped per soldier, e.g In my country (Ireland) Our basic Private soldier in the Irish Army would be classified as a form of Special Forces in America because each one is basic trained with (Weapons wise, not including other specializations like Riot Training, Art of concealment Etc.) A Rifle, a GPMG, a Handgun, Grenades, and most Emplacement Weapons, from there they can take a M203/320 training, Marksman training, Advanced First Aid, Anti-Tank/Air, Explosives, Repair and Maintenance and so on, and still be just a Private soldier, which means in a Fire team/Section of 5/9 soldiers, they could all be trained in every one of the above topics, which means any of them could take on the role if another is wounded or killed in a fight and so on. Then if the wanted they can specialize into lets say a Sniper, or a full on Medic, dedicated Driver, ARW(Special Forces), Etc. The only reason we can achieve this is because we are a small country and don't have a massive Army like the others, it would not work otherwise.
User avatar #54 to #47 - hybredmoon (05/16/2014) [-]
Ummm, no, sorry but your soldiers would most definitely not be classified as special forces in the U.S.. Every soldier in the US Army receives training similar to what you just described. That's the BASIC part of basic training.

The goal of training in the US Army is such that every single uniformed member is a fighting force. The training is broken down into Basic and AIT. Basic is where you learn to be a soldier. AIT is where you learn your specialization beyond that. Sounds like your private soldiers would qualify to be American soldiers, but certainly not SF.
User avatar #57 to #54 - tazzerz ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
Special Forces was the wrong word, yeah , but I cant remember the one that the Retired Sargent I was talking to said. (He was over to our country for US 6-7 times and was good friends with some of the Officers in the barracks I met him at) He said something like Specialist, But what I had typed up there was pretty much word for word of what he said to me, so I'm confused now. The point still stands though China may have Quantity, but there is no way in hell they could keep up the same amount of Quality per soldier that other countries have.
User avatar #58 to #57 - snakesniper (05/16/2014) [-]
Well, both of you are forgetting, the US has different branches each differently trained, like the Marines are currently the most disciplined, and highly trained branch we have, Not including special forces the US army is just don't get me started about the pussy **** they go through, it just saddens me to hear what I went through, is actually being compared to what they do.
User avatar #67 to #58 - tazzerz ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
Man, don't worry about that, I know about the Marines, and there training, serious stuff, great stuff. This guy was on about the US Army, Though he didn't say which he was from.
User avatar #70 to #67 - snakesniper (05/16/2014) [-]
I won't, in fact my brother in law is in the army, and every time I see him he wants to fight, and every time after I say ok he worms his way out of it, I find it rather hilarious, and didn't we have a conversation similar to this?
User avatar #116 to #70 - snakesniper (05/16/2014) [-]
I think, I just remember us starting a giant flame war.
User avatar #95 to #70 - tazzerz ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
Oh yeah! We did, about the no soldiers getting killed in march thing.
User avatar #68 to #67 - tazzerz ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
*Their training
#42 to #40 - galgawine (05/16/2014) [-]
Americas is more sophisticated with better technology I believe, even with less manpower. Have to be spending those billions on something every year, right?
Americas is more sophisticated with better technology I believe, even with less manpower. Have to be spending those billions on something every year, right?
User avatar #122 to #42 - eratonysiad (06/10/2014) [-]
Yes, like increasing debt.
User avatar #43 to #42 - guiguito (05/16/2014) [-]
You have to consider that all it takes to kill a person is one shot, but still from past experiences with large armies against diciplined ones we can guess how it would play out.
#44 to #43 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
that only applies in a land war. On the water, technological superiority and training is everything. And there's kind of a really big wet place between China and America
User avatar #46 to #44 - guiguito (05/16/2014) [-]
Even brazil got one of the most powerfull dreadnaughts with a crew complement of monkeys, so chine won't be far behinde, especially with child labor to make a **** load of cheap ships to ram american ones.
User avatar #45 to #43 - galgawine (05/16/2014) [-]
Drones, tanks, planes... pretty sure America has more quantity and quality there.
#51 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
this is wrong. Now China's a bigger power than the US.
User avatar #86 to #51 - arkamedies ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
quality over quantity
#87 to #86 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
Is that why some goat-farmers kicked your ass?
#118 to #87 - mrmcput ONLINE (05/19/2014) [-]
And laying IEDs and suicide bombing school children hardly seems like kicking America's ass.
#117 to #87 - mrmcput ONLINE (05/19/2014) [-]
Last I checked, most of those "goat farmers" are dead.
User avatar #88 to #87 - arkamedies ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
care to elaborate?
#9 - lelederp (05/16/2014) [-]
But China wasn't a Communist nation in the '40s...
User avatar #102 - mightypoggers (05/16/2014) [-]
Okay so. I don't know if this was mentioned below but the reason Japan and China are butting heads is because of disputes over control over some islands in the pacific.

I don't think America would step in but I believe we would send some sort of Aid to Japan.
#85 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

America thinks it can "curbstomp" China
#28 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
china has no reason whatsoever to invade japan.
#36 to #28 - Matengel (05/16/2014) [-]
aside from the fact that they will probably always hate each others guts, There's a big deal about the paradise islands right now because of the resources there. Also some dispute over naval boundaries or something. I dont know details
#32 to #28 - anon (05/16/2014) [-]
they want all the weird porn for themselves
User avatar #33 to #32 - silverzepher (05/16/2014) [-]
why can't we all just share the weird porn?
User avatar #34 to #33 - ImmortalBaconEater (05/16/2014) [-]
That's what the internet is for
User avatar #39 to #34 - beerbeerbeer (05/16/2014) [-]
Yeah, no wonder the chinese wants to invade.
User avatar #35 to #34 - silverzepher (05/16/2014) [-]
and a good portion of my externals, and a few of my flash drives.
User avatar #11 - chubbybastard ONLINE (05/16/2014) [-]
That's equality right there
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