Pokemon X Y. Analysis of Nintendo's graphical advancements.. Excuse me while i set up my N64 while riding on the bus. Oh wait. Pokemon X Y Analysis of Nintendo's graphical advancements Excuse me while i set up my N64 riding on the bus Oh wait
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#35 - kapane
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(03/11/2013) [-]
Excuse me while i set up my N64 while riding on the bus.

Oh wait.
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#429 to #35 - anon
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PSP.
Look at the graphics. Making stuff smaller is no excuse for graphics.
#435 to #35 - fadetometallica
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(03/11/2013) [-]
This is on the PS Vita.
#36 to #35 - eyemeralds ONLINE
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I wouldn't be surprised if there was a picture of that.
#49 to #36 - alalalalal
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(03/11/2013) [-]
Here you go.
#446 to #49 - thatscrewedupkid
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my watch
#444 to #49 - thelegitmetalhead
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Want.
#37 to #36 - kapane
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Me niether, but it's not practical, and I rather enjoy playing pokemon on the bus.
#441 to #37 - eyemeralds ONLINE
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I can only think of Pokemon Diamond and Pearl and be in the mines and have a fire trap on you
and you have to blow on the screen.
So you get all these weird ass stares as you're blowing on your DS
#302 to #35 - toastableduckling
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What about N64 emulators?
#2 - Frankendell
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Despite what other say, i find it kind of impressive they were able to essentially shrink down the N64 which was that big back then because it had to be. That being said I still wouldn't buy one and think its ridiculous they are still making the same games since then.
Despite what other say, i find it kind of impressive they were able to essentially shrink down the N64 which was that big back then because it had to be. That being said I still wouldn't buy one and think its ridiculous they are still making the same games since then.
#115 to #2 - anon
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take that back, I just played N64 for 6 hours last night.
#273 to #2 - anon
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Yeah, that's definitely impressive, i mean bringing the size of computers from whole rooms to tiny boxes is nothing....
#400 to #2 - anon
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When you really think about it a psp was as powerful as ps1. And the ps1 was more powerful than the N64. So im not really impressed. But then again i have a psvita and im sony fanboy. So i never really got to play pokemon.....
#154 to #2 - lightninghedgehog
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considering the PSP is more or less a scaled down PS2 in terms of graphics, no it's not very impressive.
#191 to #2 - asrial
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The regular DS emulated 64-like graphics. Try to compare the 3DS remake games with their original counterpart. IMO, the 3DS is closer to the gamecube in terms of graphical fidelity.
#308 to #2 - baddinn
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(03/11/2013) [-]
If it ain't broken don't fix it...
#22 to #2 - killerliquid
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If it was fun for kids back then, it would still be fun for kids now, no?
#71 to #22 - llpanic
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each generations should have their own good games, its a shame that Nintendo became a full time remake company
#168 to #71 - Faz
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psst, don't ever post something which could even unintentionally be misconstrued as negative towards nintendo, the majority of FJ ride nintendos dick so hard that even the tiniest bit of criticism warrants red thumbs
#310 to #168 - jinkazama
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(03/11/2013) [-]
Hey that's not true they still have new games like....
i still love pokemon
#138 to #71 - WtfStrawberries
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Idk, i mean, we enjoyed those games so much why shouldnt we be able to share that with out children?
Id totally love decking out my childs room with zelda ****, but only if they liked it to.
#18 - Blargosnarf
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Riiiiight, because the N64 wasn't a console that wasn't designed to fit in your pocket and be playable anywhere with it's own screen that also utilizes eye trickery to make it appear to have depth.
#20 to #18 - therobsorensen
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Can't really make that argument since PS Vita exists and is light years ahead of 3DS graphically.
#24 to #20 - xxgmanxx
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And the Vita has been selling horribly since launch.
#28 to #24 - sirbrentcoe
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because it costs as much as a console.
#45 to #28 - xxgmanxx
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No not because it costs as much as a console it is selling bad because it has no games on it. Why buy a console/handheld if it has no games on it? It may be as powerful as the sun itself but if it has no reason to want to buy it other than the specs it will sell horribly.
#47 to #45 - sirbrentcoe
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same reason I bought a PSP: I'm a slave to trends. no, just kidding. I like the psone classics you can put on it. also video and audio quality are outstanding.
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#434 to #121 - therobsorensen
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You're right, but that wasn't my point.
#38 to #20 - meowthenin
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1) Light years is a measure of time. You wouldn't say "The PS Vita is miles ahead of the 3DS." It sounds silly. You use measures of time for analogies like that as in "The PS Vita is years ahead of the 3DS graphically because it would take years for the 3DS to advance enough to match the Vita.""

2) And the PSP was graphically superior to the DS. But the DS sold better. Why? Games. Vita has how many games? And how may of those are just crappy ports of PS3 games? 3DS had a slow start but it quickly getting killer titles like Fire Emblem.
#106 to #38 - stopsdropsand
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umm.......Light-years are a measure of distance. Just under 10 trillion kilometers.
#445 to #106 - meowthenin
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Dude, re-read what I said. I know light years measure length.
#450 to #445 - stopsdropsand
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Well you must have confused yourself because your first sentence literally says Light-years is a measure of time
#454 to #450 - meowthenin
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Read the rest of the post moron. It's called a typo.
#41 to #38 - therobsorensen
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"Light years ahead" is a common term when talking about technology. I didn't just pull it out of my ass.

And I'm not talking about sales or games. I completely agree. DS has better games, BUT I'm saying in the 20 or so years between Nintendo 64/ PS 1, and the current hand held consoles, Sony has made bigger strides than Nintendo.
#43 to #41 - meowthenin
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1) No. It's not.

2) Not bigger, different. Nintendo gave up on the way Microsoft and Sony viewed games. They innovate. Motion controls. A handheld with two screens. Glasses-free 3D. A touch screen on the controller. Sure, it's kinda gimmicky but it does work. You won't say "Oh hey, that Mario game looks so beautiful and vibrant! It's almost life-like!" but it plays damn well. Measuring bigger strides by how much RAM or the processor or GPU in a console means nothing. Nintendo takes gaming further by showing new way to play it.
#48 to #43 - therobsorensen
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1) You need to login to view this link
Commonly used idiom. Educate yourself.

2. Ok I agree.
#29 to #20 - Blargosnarf
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...which was made nearly two DECADES after the N64, my point is it's the same tech but far higher processing and miniature compared!
#39 to #29 - therobsorensen
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Ok that's fair, but if Sony went from PS1 to PS Vita, which has like PS3 graphics and is smaller, then Nintendo should still be able to step their game up.
#50 to #18 - sirbrentcoe
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*ahem* you were sayin?
#52 to #50 - blacklite
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That probably would still be too big to fit in your pocket...
#54 to #52 - sirbrentcoe
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not for this bloke.
#56 to #50 - Blargosnarf
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I am certain that isn't a Nintendo release, also, I WAS TALKING ABOUT COMPARING TO THE TIME! In the time of the N64 the things that the 3DS are capable of couldn't even be dreamed about.
#57 to #56 - sirbrentcoe
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calm down mate, it was a joke. I actually really want one of the n64 handhelds.
#355 - noutvissers
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(03/11/2013) [-]
Half-life 3 confirmed.
#362 to #355 - xenarthra
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thank you
#426 to #355 - redorbit
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this is the only thumb i give on this thread
this is the only thumb i give on this thread
#21 - therobsorensen
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Bethesda + Pokemon...

An open world Pokemon RPG where the Pokemon are randomly simulated and roam free like the dragons in Skyrim... I've seen it discussed before, but I need it...

<MFW
#147 to #21 - zionsype ONLINE
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(03/11/2013) [-]
>Buy minecraft
>Download pixelmon
>Find pixelmon server
#120 to #21 - morkoelorko ONLINE
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with infinite bugs and glichs!
#223 to #120 - burdenedsoul
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infinite scythers and missingnos? awesome
#287 to #223 - admiralen
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more like infinite weedles
#139 to #120 - WtfStrawberries
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Who gives a **** about bugs and glitches, they just make the game more fun.
Who gives a **** about bugs and glitches, they just make the game more fun.
#301 to #21 - anon
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Here ya go, buddy
http://www(.)youtube(.)com/watch?v=HbSQPV0yHf0
#322 to #21 - kroople
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With all the gens...
#268 - seratyo
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>People want a 3D, main series pokemon game.
>Complain when they finally get one.

Because who needs logic RIGHT?!
#311 to #268 - jinkazama
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I'm happy and sad about it. On one hand i've wanted this since i was a kid. But it means losing the art style of the previous games. Something that i grew up with and always loved.
#276 to #268 - anon
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people are whiny bitches
#343 to #268 - rakoom
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Doesn't have to be the same people whining about the quality of the game itself that is whining about the portability of the console.
#345 to #268 - anon
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The difference is that we wanted it on the console (which would have amazing graphics, think pokemon battle revolution) and wanted it to be an rpg (like the console games, where there were shadow pokemon).
#253 - retrochris
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.......oh yeah.... bach in the old console's era there was one decisive thing a fact: You didn't have the technics to visually overwhelm people, the game hat to score in being addicting........
#265 to #253 - anon
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key words there "old" now we need both i wanna be blown away by how real a game looks
#266 to #265 - retrochris
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welp, have yur opinion. I wanna be blown away by how much fun it is to play.
#261 to #253 - tylosaurus ONLINE
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You could still be impressed by the graphics of some games, really.
#264 to #261 - retrochris
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all I'm saying is, that back then you were pretty limited on what yu could do with the graphics. Of COUSE there were some games that managed to realize the full potential. Still I'm in love with the old games for their high value in gameplay. I'm retro, it's in my name, it's running through my veins.
#267 to #264 - tylosaurus ONLINE
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Yeah, but you can't deny all new games from being addicting and having great gameplay. Just hoping that you're not a retro-freak that denies everything that is new from being good. Good graphics + good gameplay beats good gameplay with worse graphics. I totally agree that you shouldn't use graphics as a decisive factor for whether the game is good or not.
#269 to #267 - retrochris
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Totally hear ya. I'm studying game development mate, so basically I'm open to every game there is ;)
Don't worry about that mate!
#271 to #269 - tylosaurus ONLINE
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Great. I'm trying to finish what I think would be the equivalent of highschool. Afterwards, I'm going to study game development too.
#277 to #271 - viscerys
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Me too! Woop!
#294 to #261 - kez
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Some games are fun just because they look cool.

Star ocean : till the end of time. The graphics for the time were awesome and the cutscenes were incredible. The fighting was incrediblely fun to play, but it looked good. If it didnt look good it would just get boring even though it was unique Diverse and challenging.
#32 - reigndrac
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Right... No improvements... at... all....
#144 to #32 - wishanonscouldpost
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Links new face looks pretty bad imo.
#33 to #32 - reigndrac
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None...
#34 to #33 - reigndrac
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...I can't even tell the difference....
#104 to #34 - ElBandito
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i can, Zelda had bigger tits back in the day
#184 to #104 - CrashingSea
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I don't really think they were breasts as much as it was just a larger garment...
#51 to #34 - vengance
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that justmade me want to buy a 3ds.... now for my next purchase
#66 to #51 - snapbackcc
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If you get a 3ds make sure you buy kid icarus and fire emblem awakening. Those are my favorite games on the amazing little handheld.
#62 to #51 - superkewlguy
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If you're gonna buy one (That is if you don't already have one) Get Fire Emblem, Tale of the Abyss, Star Fox, Kid Icirus (Though that game can be a pain to control), Paper Mario, oh and Let's not forget that Luige's mansion 2 is coming out soon. Well worth owning the system Oh and the 3DS market has some GOG's on it as well.
If you're gonna buy one (That is if you don't already have one) Get Fire Emblem, Tale of the Abyss, Star Fox, Kid Icirus (Though that game can be a pain to control), Paper Mario, oh and Let's not forget that Luige's mansion 2 is coming out soon. Well worth owning the system Oh and the 3DS market has some GOG's on it as well.
#68 to #62 - itsnotbutthurt
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I don't understand everybody's complaints with Kid Icarus' controls. I had no issue playing with the standard controls. I found it natural just like every other game. Aside from that, I completely agree with your reccomendations. But may I add in Cave Story 3D in there?
#69 to #68 - superkewlguy
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I'm a lefty and i don't have the pro pad so it felt a little off to me and i ain't played cave story yet so i can't say but i have only heard good things so i will pick it up to play eventually, but right now I'm to busy hooking people up in Fire Emblem to notice.
#72 to #69 - itsnotbutthurt
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I want to get it, but I haven't been to a store with it in stock.
#73 to #72 - superkewlguy
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lucky for me i got it when i did cause all the stores near where i live have been sold out since the first shipping. Nintendo WAY underestimated how many fans of this series there really are
#74 to #73 - itsnotbutthurt
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Maybe the reaction the game got might make them think to make a sequel.
#77 to #74 - superkewlguy
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hopefully so far it's been fun and there is a lot of fun to be had playing as both a male and female character

(Spoiler warning)

especial given the fact that if you are the female you meet you're own daughter who tries to save you from killing you're husband in the future.
#78 to #77 - superkewlguy
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that is if you chose the right person as her husband.
#63 to #51 - thuey
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do it! i have the 3ds xl.. its fun lol not amazing but fun
#337 to #34 - matttboyagain
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Wow! I was exclaiming before about how it was soooo similar but they did start from scratch while still staying as close as they possibly could and still being BETTER.
#186 to #34 - gtk
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I personally think that they just took the art style a different direction and that why it is noticeably much better. Its leaning further toward wind waker type graphics while back in the day they were pushing for realism.


tl'dr It has improved graphic wise, but the art style is what makes it very noticeable.
#161 to #34 - anon
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everything is too bright, too colorful, and they took away zelda's tits
none of my want
#200 - foliap
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- That image is much better than the quality of games on the n64.
-That image is very much dated as the game was only set to release almost a year later.
-Its on a portable system, of course the graphics won't be as good.
-The main part of the game, the battles look great.
-Taking the above point into consideration, there are 700-800+ 3d models of pokemon and trainer, plus forms and variants. ON A HANDHELD.

go back to /v/
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#214 to #211 - foliap
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That image used has to aa done to it whatsoever, which would only take a a mere proportion of their time to, that will easily improve the aesthetics of the game.

And must I repeat the fact the battle scenes are much higher quality to the overworld, and with that in mind, there are 700-800 3d pokemon models, plus trainers, forms, and gender variants, which for a handheld is pretty impressive.
#215 to #214 - foliap
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*That image used has no aa (antialiasing) done to it whatsoever, which would only take a mere bit of their time to do so, which in turn would vastly improve the aesthetics.

Bit careless with my grammar sometimes.
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#229 to #222 - foliap
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stuff like character shadow is easily fixable during the months left of development. They do improve graphics, look at chargestone cave in bw before and after pre-release, and this too for example.
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#235 to #218 - foliap
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dear god, again. 700-800 3D models, probably 900-1000 all together. plus an actual game to go with it, unlike pokedex 3d. Also, move data, pokemon data, maps, dialog, overworld, character models and so on. 3ds games with much higher graphics than this have much less space being used up by models. there is only so much a handheld can do my friend.
#230 to #218 - foliap
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the perils of of mobile typing
#224 to #211 - aerius
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problem is it's an RPG with hundreds of detailed 3d models that are using up the memory space on the game cartridge. The game is already using an extra-large file size cart as it is, if the out-of-combat graphics were as advanced the cart would have to be three times the size, which is possible but would make the game was more expensive to create and probably cost like $120
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#243 to #236 - aerius
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a normal 3ds cart is only 2 gigs of data though. They CAN go up to 8gb, but have yet to do so to my knowledge.
The important things aren't the file sizes, but game freak's time investment and design choices. Clearly they want to keep the overworld in a symbolic, recognisible style that evokes previous games. I don't necessarily agree with this design choice, but it's not my choice. (I wish they'd give us full analogue movement already though, it worked fine in Colosseum/XD)
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#431 to #200 - anon
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"-Its on a portable system, of course the graphics won't be as good."
Excuse me while I go play my PS Vita.
#452 to #431 - foliap
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nogaems
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#135 to #118 - WtfStrawberries
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both actually fit
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