called theangryrussian, is actually of german descent

After WW2, my grandfather and grandmother fled to Russia to get away from the depression.

cool

does that mean that your grandpa was a nazi?

Not necessarily. A huge amount of the German officers were against the Nazi Regime, and hated Hitler.

........ what do you think? he was shooting down russian planes...

not all german soldiers were of the nazi party, the nazi party used the german army.

of course, there were soldiers in the german army who supported the ideologies of the nazi party, but not everyone of them was a nazi.

commanders were either for the nazi party or killed... simple as that.

<----Your grandpa

what the **** are you talking about? defending innocent people? uh do you not know anything about the 1920's/30's or 40's? go learn a little something about world war 2 and prewar germany, none of those people were innocent

Wow, you didn't only go down with the ship, you fell through the sea floor.

Gee, I hope you like red thumbs because I added 1 more :)

Congratulations! You just won the "Most Unintelligent Comment of the Year" Award.
The actions of a group that commandeered a nation should not reflect on every inhabitant of said nation.

Yes, because people who were starving, who simply were racist (in a time when everybody was racist) are terrible people. Most of the Germans didn't actually know what happened in the camps. If they did know, then so would the Jews, Gypsies, and gays, and the government couldn't trick them into going to the camps. Most of the Germans just worked the factories and fought in battles.

History and sociology scholar obviously.

OH MAN MY ******* SIDES!

+1 for you OP.
You're stupidity just made my day.

Your*
Irony is a bitch, isn't it?

I'm serious I need my own personal grammar nazi.
One that can fix my spelling would work wonders too.

Well, simply enough, "your" is a possessive; for example: "Are you going to finish your fries, mother ****** ?"
"You're" is a shortened version of "you are"; for example: "You're one huge-ass fry-munching mother ****** ."
I hope this helps.

Yeah, I know the grammar behind it.
Just an old school case of typing too fast.

Yeah, except the civilians are innocent you ******** . Also, a lot of soldiers were too. Most never saw a concentration camp or shot an innocent in their life. All they did was go on with their lives or follow orders.

better advice, why don't you do it so you can learn a little bit more of history than just the surface layer...

SHUT UP! YOUR FALSE FACTS ARE MAKING US LOOK BAD!

Please, tell me more...

have you ever heard of newborn babies and germans that werent nazis?

Not all Germans were Nazis. In fact, over half the country was against it. They were just intimidated by the military. So yeah, he was defending innocent people.

no thats ******** , while you are right many of them were not "nazi's" almost every single on of them supported Hitler when he first came to power and during the start of the war. the entire time Hitler was winning the war in Europe he was a ******* hero to the german people, go look up videos of his rallies during the 1930's and early 1940's, the places are packed with thousands of people who all completely supported the nazi ideology. it does not make them innocent when, after they start losing, they tell everyone that they were against it from the beginning when they weren't

I would too, if I was a german in that time period. During the great depression, the German mark was worth 0.000001 Canadian dollars or something like that, and when Hitler took over, they were one of the richest planets on the country at the time. Of course they saw him as a hero. People in Germany, after WWI, and before the rise of hitler, were literally eating the leather off their shoes in order to stay alive.

richest planets on the country? wut? you're correct about all the rest though

Well, Germany now has one of the strongest economies on the planet, averaging more than 200 billion Canadian dollars in trade surplus. We went frome a hellhole to a giant gold plated palace.

**** ****** , what the **** is wrong with me.
Richest countries on the planet*

lol lrn2watch national geographic

Stop posting nonsense please.

The ******** is strong with this one... You're using the US point of view, which is completely wrong. If all the Germans supported the Nazi party, then why were thousands of people protesting it? (They disappeared shortly after). Why were Hitler's most trusted acquaintances trying to kill him? Why were the German public trying to smuggle people out of concentration camps? Darp.

learn your ******* history, yes all of this happened, AFTER they started to lose the war, his generals saw that Hitler was losing it and they no longer believed they could win, that was when they tried to assasinate him, same with most of the people protesting, all happened after germany began to lose the war, the gestapo cracked down on ordinary citizens and there began to be food shortages, at the beginning of the war the vast vast majority of german citizens supported him

Alright tippytip. Time to lay down some very simple facts. What you are saying is 100% true. Yes many Germans opposed that war but majority of people did support Hitler and Nazism. However, what you seem to be forgetting, or perhaps never learned, is that majority of the citizens who supported Hitler supported his messages of unifying the nation. He gave the German citizens hope in a time of need so they followed him. Thing is, majority of the German people did not even know about concentration/death camps and the overall idea of the Final Solution. They thought Hitler was just some great guy coming to help them out, while not knowing anything of his atrocities. Those who did know about his extermination, however, could do almost nothing about it. Yeah in retrospect you could say, "They should've stood up and said something or gone into action!" But what could they really do? Even if they gathered a group of people, they could easily be subdued, and going to the police was useless. So those who did know it really couldn't do anything and if they did, they risked their lives. Hence, most the people he (angryrussian's grandfather) was defending, were innocent and had nothing to do with the Final Solution.

P.S. You also seem like the guy who would think Nazi's = Horrible Murderers, but the reality is that most of the Nazi's were on the border fighting other nations to keep theirs safe while a smaller portion was apart of the Final Solution.

yeah im not saying there werent people that stood against him but obviously most of the country supported him or else he would have been overthrown, even many of the first countries he invaded celebrated his invasion!

thats exactly my ******* point, the majority of germany supported him, and if he had won the war all 99% of those people still would have supported him because he would have won and returned germany to its former glory, it was only cause he ****** up and lost the war that all those people turned against him

Just because they supported his initial politics does not necessarily mean they supported the war, the death of the jews, or anything else for that matter. America voted bush into power, but no one believes everyone supported him. Why can't you accept the same might be true of another country?

Anon is correct, this was a time in German history when Hitler was the only one who genuinely seemed to give a **** . Yes he was kinda ****** in the head but he made alot of important decisions and was good at intimidating/embarrassing other countries leaders. As a result he became something of a hero because he showed what was seen as German strength. (The fact that he was Austrian was neatly overlooked) He also made good use of propganda and, whether you like it or not, the governments of more than one country have learned from his example of media manipulation.

Please don't group that retard in with us... We aren't all that stupid. That person is in their own retard nation.