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User avatar #12 - lyuun (03/15/2013) [-]
hate to sound patriotic, but norway is so ******* metal...
#30 to #12 - thereasonableperso (03/15/2013) [-]
Theres nothing wrong with being patriotic.
User avatar #56 to #30 - lyuun (03/16/2013) [-]
oh, there's plenty that could be wrong with being patriotic, but i guess what i'm saying is that i'm trying to keep my patriotism below the level of mindlessly elevating the actions of my countrymen to a glorified status of ignorant bliss. I love norway, and i love being norwegian, but patriotism shouldn't be stretched so far as not to recognise that a country can do wrong. all i wanted was for people not to believe i was one of those "OMG NORWY RULZ NORWEGIAN MASTER RACE" people.
#60 to #56 - thereasonableperso (03/16/2013) [-]
Patriotism is being happy and proud of your country.
What you're thinking about is nationalism.
User avatar #262 to #60 - finni (03/16/2013) [-]
No, nationalism is when you're proud of your country's cultural heritage. Patriotism is when you're proud of your country's achievements. For example, America is very patriotic because they love the achievements they've made like freedom, independence and such, while most, or really many, Norwegians are nationalists, because they like to wear stikkegensre in the winter, they like to eat porridge on the national day and is generally proud of their culture, but also their achievements which also can be a part of their nationalism, so nationalism includes achievements, but it can be a little more similar to conservatism.

You can be both, of course. The thing about nationalism is that you're proud of your culture and since you're proud of your culture it can mean that it evolves into fascism, like what happened in Germany. But there's also the good part of nationalism when you believe that everyone, no matter race, gender or sexual preference, who respect and follow the culture and only demand that people from the outside should adapt to the culture if they want to move in.

TL;DR
Nationalism: Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
Patriotism: Love of and devotion to one's country
#334 to #262 - thereasonableperso (03/16/2013) [-]
Oh, guess i had them backwards.
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