Death By Utopia. . In 1953, scientist John B. Calhoun created an experiment to see how mice would behave in a utopia. He introduced q breeding pairs of mice int Death By Utopia In 1953 scientist John B Calhoun created an experiment to see how mice would behave in a utopia He introduced q breeding pairs of int
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Death By Utopia

In 1953, scientist John B. Calhoun created an experiment to
see how mice would behave in a utopia. He introduced q
breeding pairs of mice into a 9. 7 metre square with 1. high
walls, no scarcity, no predators. After 1: 34 days they adjusted
to the new world and the population began to grow, doubling
every 55 days. By day 315 the population reached Emil. Then
population growth began to decline and the mice? society
collasped. Young were expelled before they had been
properly weaned and were arbitrarily attacked and eaten by
Ext es sive aggressive male mic e. Females became more
aggressive, males became passive, not
retaliating to attacks. The last healthy birth came on the
sooth day. Then there were no new mic e.
Then came the ‘beautiful ones', which withdrew themselves
ever so quietly from the sick society. Solitary pursuits began
to define them; eating, drinking and grooming among
others. Ho scars on their back or hairs , these
mice behaved like a separate race. They saw the world
through their narrow scopes, as they tossed, turned and
tried to cope.
There' s a reason we' re
becoming statistically less
socail in first world
countries.
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#1 - merpdederp [OP]
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(09/03/2013) [+] (11 replies)
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#110 to #1 - karlip
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dude if you made this yourself congrats and this makes so much sense like mind equals a bombed
#108 to #1 - demonatatoo
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#87 to #1 - someguyonthewebz
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#167 to #87 - articulate
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I didn't come here to see black and white gifs.
I didn't come here to see black and white gifs.
#171 to #167 - someguyonthewebz
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Well excuse me. Thanks for the better version though friend
#130 to #87 - zorororonoa
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But that isn't grammar, that is spelling.
#163 to #130 - someguyonthewebz
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#59 to #1 - shadecrenshaw
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#151 to #1 - anisbanana
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This **** is happening on every ******* post.

>create grammar mistake in post
>correct on comments and sticky it
>collect comment thumbs

mfw
#154 to #151 - merpdederp [OP]
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I honestly had no idea I would get so many thumbs.
#45 to #1 - bloopzoop
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#2 - thesaurus
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those effects were mostly a result of overpopulation, the initial object of Calhoun's investigation, not from living in a "utopia"
#6 to #2 - flyslasher
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Overpopulation would be an effect of a Utopia.
#7 to #6 - captnnorway
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(09/03/2013) [-]
Wouldn't be a utopia if it was overpopulated.
#8 to #2 - ewl
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according to the video (posted 5 hours after this comment), the utopia could have housed 3000 mice, however tapered off and they started dying at 2200. wasn't a result of over population.
#28 - infinitereaper ONLINE
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>Implying we live in a world anywhere near a utopia

But how bout a joke?

So you're saying the problem is overpopulation...
#36 to #28 - foelkera
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(09/03/2013) [-]
Hitler had the right ideas, just the wrong demographic
#53 to #36 - Mahazama
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(09/03/2013) [-]
Chances are he wouldn't see you fit into his worldview, or make a real contribution to the Reich.
So you're right! We should start with you, unreine bauer.
Time to get gassed.
#57 to #53 - nervaaurelius
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It sorta annoys me seeing these angst filled cynics who feel the need to wipe out any population.
#58 to #57 - Mahazama
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Odds are some of the idiots who call for ethnic cleansing would end up getting cleansed themselves, were it to come to it.
#35 to #28 - rapedthebed
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Compared to other animals we have it easy. We are virtually out of the food chain.
#117 to #35 - ilovehitler
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That doesn't make it a utopia, though.
Utopia is perfection, and while first world countries are pretty great, they are not perfection.
#168 to #117 - rapedthebed
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Agreed. I was saying that compared to other animals, it's perfection.
#31 - dross
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Except 99% of the populous of the 'first world countries' have never been forced into a corner for lack of food or resources. They've never had their new-born children destroyed by the government/a tangled mass.

I get where this is coming from, but it doesn't exactly justify my lurking on a website on a Tuesday night with a couple of beers and headphones on....
#106 to #31 - anon
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i dont care
#54 to #31 - Mahazama
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Don't mind OP, he's just Dr. Edge that thinks he's the next big social anthropologist or some ****
#66 - skysailor
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**skysailor rolled a random image posted in comment #5998373 at Admin's personal trolling board. ** Why I am antisocial.
#138 to #66 - anon
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because you're a molester?
#65 - anon
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Its amazing how many people think we have "free will" Free will is an illusion, propagated by religion.
#101 to #65 - xdeathspawnx
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You're just angry because your life sucks and you have no one to blame but yourself. Instead of facing the truth, you say that free will is an illusion and blame your failures on the universe.
#105 to #101 - thebritishguy
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That isn't necessarily true at all, I think we may not have much free will not because of emotional reasons but because of simple thought experiments used in philosophy.
such as
Quickly choose someone
Now when you did that you did not cycle through every single person you know and pick one like in a library how you pick a book, you just sub-consciously grabbed a face. You can not consciously pre-determine choices like this, to think about what thought you will think is absurd and just does not happen. You can not control or choose what words you will think of next it just happens naturally.
Also I can not consciously choose to believe that Hitler did nothing wrong, I do not have the ability to do that, I can pretend to believe that Hitler did nothing wrong but I can not actually believe it without reason and evidence. So what I believe isn't part of my free will.
#69 to #65 - wulphshadowtail
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I assume you own several fedoras.
#80 to #69 - thebritishguy
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What the flip did you just ******* claim about my comrade, you little banana? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at the logic, euphoria and reason camp, and I’ve been involved in numerous pointless rant videos on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed ***** to give. I am trained in bible warfare and I’m the top shouter in the entire secular armed debating society. You are nothing to me but just another faith-head. I will wipe you the **** out with reason the likes of which has never been comprehended before on this Earth, mark my ******* fedora. You think you can get away with saying that **** to my comrade over the Internet? Think again, ******. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of feminists across the conventions and your IQ is being traced right now so you better prepare for the weather, maggot. The comment that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your ideology. You’re ******* incomprehensible, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can refute your arguments in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my God delusion standard edition with me. Not only am I extensively trained in using long words which I don't understand, but I have multirationalaccessability to the entiritium voccalubatoriam of the United States Secular Club and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable opinions off the face of the forum, you little ****. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ******* fedora. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you Darwindamn idiot. I will spit dorito fury all over you and you will drown in my mountain dew. You’re ******* belief system is dead, the amount of euphoria in my fedora is enough to fuel my erection for another 10 minutes.
#102 to #80 - anon
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I loled that the first 6 times you tried your/you're you succeeded but then failed on your last attempt.
#96 to #80 - wulphshadowtail
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Made me lol, thumb for you
#120 to #96 - iamaniceperson
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I can't stop starring at your Profile pic... I'm not even a brony, but this **** is still kawaii as ****. Sorry for being off topic.
#126 - toadkillerdog
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that would make us........the beautiful people...the beautiful people....
#129 to #126 - dharkmoswen
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HOW has this NOT gotten more thumbs?!
#133 to #129 - mayormilkman
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It was posted 23 minutes ago. When you replied to him, he posted nine minutes prior to your reply.
#137 to #133 - dharkmoswen
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STOP PUNCHING LOGIC SHAPED HOLES IN MY REALITY!
#131 to #126 - lolwutthef
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dude...****. O.O
#140 to #126 - waterbottlemanboy
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Is that what the song's about?
#141 to #126 - priestoftheoldones
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Most children in 'Murica are being born as Indigo children, and our society is collapsing. Mother of god.
#143 to #141 - iwaspromisedcake
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Where was 'Murica mentioned?
#144 to #143 - priestoftheoldones
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By me because this country is having a collapse any time now, so did the mouse, colony, thing.
#145 to #144 - iwaspromisedcake
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I'm not trying to argue but I'm actually interested in hearing why you think that
#146 to #145 - priestoftheoldones
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About? There are two current topics.
#147 to #146 - iwaspromisedcake
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Why you believe the US is on the verge of collapse
#148 to #147 - priestoftheoldones
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Haven't you noticed whats been happening? Economy is ****, like, smelly, squishy ****, the worst type of ****. And that has been getting worse, and worse. Which will lead to a social collapse soon if it isn't fixed, and so far it hasn't been fixed.
#150 to #148 - animationhac ONLINE
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I dont think this posting is about America but as the world as a whole...
#149 to #148 - iwaspromisedcake
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Just seems a bit of a jump to say the poor economy will lead to a societal collapse. The economy has been worse before and even during this current decade. Are there any statistics to support your claim?
#152 to #149 - priestoftheoldones
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Well why I say that is, the economy has been bad for a while now, and nothing has been done about, that was a success, and if it keeps up like this, in which I think it will, stuff'll happen, and with a economy collapse, *Which I think will happen* will lead to rioting 'n stuff. I don't have anything to back up my claims, but there is stuff too, I just don't have any to show you.
#157 to #152 - iwaspromisedcake
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The economy was pretty bad but as the graph shows, following the 2009 collapse, the US' GDP stabilized reasonably well and is currently on the upswing. The economy isn't as bad as fox news would have you believe and if people didn't riot in 2009 it's going to take something big to cause the collapse that you believe is impending. Nevertheless, I respect your opinion and appreciate hearing another side of it.
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#5 - akho
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Well, too bad we have free will and could change how we act.

Worse is that most of us don't.
#63 to #5 - anon
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>"free will" lol, grow up
#71 - ubercookieboy ONLINE
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Something I ripped from Wikipedia:

"Making the leap from mouse to man, however, was not so simple. “This is where it gets controversial,” Dr. Edmund Ramsden of the University of Exeter and the London School of Economics said, describing how other scientists tried to replicate Calhoun’s results in human populations. He cited psychologist Jonathan Freedman's experiment, where he recruited high school and university students to carry out a series of experiments that measured the effects of density on behavior. He measured their stress, discomfort, aggression, competitiveness and general unpleasantness. When he declared to have found no appreciative negative effects in 1975, the tide began to turn on Calhoun’s utopia. Freedman’s work, Ramsden noted, suggested that density was no longer a primary explanatory variable for society’s ruin. A distinction was drawn between animals and humans. “Rats may suffer from crowding; human beings can cope...Calhoun’s research was seen not only as questionable, but also as dangerous."
#52 - thebestpieever
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Yeah. I really don't care what people think about this, but the text itself is awfully redacted. So here is some nicely done version courtesy of wikipedia: Initially the population grew rapidly, doubling every 55 days. The population reached 620 by day 315, after which the population growth dropped markedly. The last surviving birth was on day 600. This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against. After day 600 the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. During this period females ceased to reproduce. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed “the beautiful ones”.