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User avatar #130 - metajunky (05/22/2012) [-]
original kingdom hearts was one of my all time favorites and i enjoyed the other games too. however, they are MASSIVELY overrated

-stereotypical characters. also what the **** are they wearing?
-pointless magic system
-one of the most absurdly over complicated stories
-monotonous gameplay
-comes out on too many different systems. WE'RE NOT MONEY TREES!
-supposed to by a final fantasy crossover, but those characters do jack ****
-too much ff7


still love the first game and had fun with the others. the minigames, boss fights, secret areas/boss fights, environments, and music are fantastic. it also has the best dubbing job of any japanese game i have played
User avatar #192 to #130 - antistar (05/22/2012) [-]
Also, it was only supposed to be a FF cross over so it would gain publicity. The games are having less and less FF characters, due to KH's massive popularity. BBS had only one (Zack Fair), 358/2 days and 3ds had 0.
User avatar #139 to #130 - mcstorms (05/22/2012) [-]
Stereotypical in what way? Im talking characters created for KH like sora, kari and Riku.
Kinda agree but the game would be a bitch without Cure and other magic can help out a ******* . They greatly improved it in BBS
xD over complicated? try playing prototype i have had since day 1 and beaten 4 times still have no clue what the **** is going on.
FF was never truley a Big part for instance they never had an FF world to play in most of them are side characters to begin with.
... I kinda agree I would love to see Zidane
User avatar #156 to #139 - metajunky (05/22/2012) [-]
-sora is the typical, nauseatingly positive good guy. kairi is the typical damsel in distress. riku is the rival that loses his way then comes back
-cure is the only useful spell, except for maybe stop or reflect. rest are gimmicks that waste time, do not work on enemies particularly the bosses, and are not as effective as whacking them with a keyblade
-it is still up there. try explaining it to a friend from the beginning. but yeah compared to mgs it is a mario game
-understand that there is an emphasis on dsney and that is fine. that is because they can use more stories and interesting places. but even so the characters do not do much besides stand around and look pretty. they should have a couple of ff villains team up with the disney villains. fighting kefka, gilgamesh, exdeath, sephiroth (which is given), or even jecht or kuja would be fun
-zidane for the win. also need to include some ff6 or ff8 characters too. they should do something with wakka, tidus, and selphie too. it is like they forgot about them
User avatar #195 to #156 - mcstorms (05/22/2012) [-]
-Look at sora's character development though as well as Riku's. From the first to second games they grew up a lot.
-Again BBs magic system much better with spells like mega flare
- It isnt that it's complicated just lots of plot twists
- I Agree with that
- I also agree with this too
#194 to #156 - infensive (05/22/2012) [-]
You're saying there's too much Final Fantasy, and then you're saying to add more Final Fantasy. You realize that wouldn't make the game any better, right? The game is Kingdom Hearts, not Final Fantasy. You're supposed to have more originality, not more characters from other games. Kingdom Hearts isn't supposed to be a sequel to FF games, they just want familiar characters to those who play other Square Enix games, it really helps attract those who like to follow FF. The Disney stuff is to make it a bit more kid friend, and that's whether you like it or not. But in the end, it makes the story a bit lighter, and adds humor here and there. If you take out all the added stuff (Final Fantasy and Disney), you have what is a really dark story line, which is what Kingdom Hearts is supposed to be like.   
   
I also hate Square Enix releasing on all these different Nintendo systems, but you can't really blame them for that, and you can't blame the games either. Normally this wouldn't be a problem, but Nintendo has to come out with a new system every year that's worth around $180+, so then they decide to release the game on THAT system.   
   
Also, adding more Final fantasy stuff? If you want Final Fantasy, you go play a Final Fantasy game. If you want to see more of those characters in a specific game, you should say that you want a sequel to THAT game, not how you want to see it in another game.
You're saying there's too much Final Fantasy, and then you're saying to add more Final Fantasy. You realize that wouldn't make the game any better, right? The game is Kingdom Hearts, not Final Fantasy. You're supposed to have more originality, not more characters from other games. Kingdom Hearts isn't supposed to be a sequel to FF games, they just want familiar characters to those who play other Square Enix games, it really helps attract those who like to follow FF. The Disney stuff is to make it a bit more kid friend, and that's whether you like it or not. But in the end, it makes the story a bit lighter, and adds humor here and there. If you take out all the added stuff (Final Fantasy and Disney), you have what is a really dark story line, which is what Kingdom Hearts is supposed to be like.

I also hate Square Enix releasing on all these different Nintendo systems, but you can't really blame them for that, and you can't blame the games either. Normally this wouldn't be a problem, but Nintendo has to come out with a new system every year that's worth around $180+, so then they decide to release the game on THAT system.

Also, adding more Final fantasy stuff? If you want Final Fantasy, you go play a Final Fantasy game. If you want to see more of those characters in a specific game, you should say that you want a sequel to THAT game, not how you want to see it in another game.
User avatar #214 to #194 - metajunky (05/22/2012) [-]
if you reread what i said, i only wanted more final fantasy. by that i am more interested in their characters playing a larger role, like auron in olympus coloseium , rather than cameos that really have no affect at all to the overall story. it would be nice to see ff bad guys alongside the disney ones, kefka in particular would fit in with that group

what you might have misunderstood as me saying "there is too much final fantasy" is when i mentioned ff7. i understand that game is a popular addition, but there are others out there too

and i have no problem with the disney part as that is what got me into the series. mickey is a ******* badass! and those characters and places are the reasons why these games are being released. however, if it were a crossover of any other popular forms of entertainment, you would expect there to be balanced screen time from both things. imagine a marvel and dc crossover where it was spiderman, wolverine, and iron man fought the baddies, interacting with only other marvel characters, and the major amount of spotlight dc gets is when superman say a little message to them in the corner. now i do not want them to be the main focus, far from that, the disney side is very well done. but i just want them to do more than stand angstly in the corner and looking pretty
User avatar #182 to #156 - antistar (05/22/2012) [-]
Magic was improved in Kingdom Hearts 2 (as single Reflega spell with high enough magic could take out basically any enemy), and was made equal to physical attacks in Birth by Sleep (the strongest character out of the three is generally regarded as Aqua, because of her talent in magic attacks).
User avatar #187 to #182 - metajunky (05/22/2012) [-]
well i do not think bbs really counts though. if i remember right, they force you to use magic, so you have no choice in the matter anyway, but yeah i will takke that over how it used to be
User avatar #188 to #187 - antistar (05/22/2012) [-]
BBS is part of the main series (which adds to the ******* of plot even more). And you're only forced to use magic during the tutorial which is one short world. For the rest of the game, you're free to only physically attack, but magic attacks are actually better b/c of the massive range of possible mixes and attacks.
User avatar #196 to #188 - metajunky (05/22/2012) [-]
right, but if i remember correctly you could choose which attacks to use and compile them into a list, so as you keep on pressing x you can do a series of physical attacks and then magic later, then back to physical attacks. they did that to reduce the clutter onn the smaller psp screen, which was pretty freaking smart
User avatar #135 to #130 - galkawhm (05/22/2012) [-]
It's supposed to be a Disney crossover with some final fantasy in it. the Final Fantasy was just so fewer people would just look at the Disney aspect, decide it's too kiddy, and ignore the series. Since the series is well known, they don't need to do that anymore. For example, Birth by Sleep only had 1 FF character and days had 0.
#204 to #135 - kanonxclannad (05/22/2012) [-]
Days Had Moogles, so one FF character.
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