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User avatar #9 - captainfuckitall (09/18/2013) [-]
Some points (and perhaps improvements) I would like to make on the list

1. Life is actually fair, you get EXACTLY what you work for, nothing more and nothing less, one way or another.

2. This is true, but if people are unable to feel good without the support of others, chances are they won't be getting far anyways.

3. There are plenty of opportunities and plenty of reasons for exactly why you COULD make that money right out of highschool. There are people less intelligent, less talented, and less capable than you getting rich all the time, why aren't you one of them?

4. A good boss is not tough because good employee's are competent.

5. It's true that it may not be beneath your dignity, but it may just not be for you. It's better to have a job you love that does very little for you than a job you hate that does much, and all the opportunities in the world will not count for **** if you do not enjoy them.

6. True.

7. Also true, people need to respect their ******* elders and realize that everyone thought they were hot **** when they were younger.

8. This is changing very rapidly; due to the Affirmative Action movement, many people are able to get away with things just because of circumstances they cannot control (gender, ethnic background, creed, ect.) and if you complain you are branded an antagonist

9. You do get months and sometimes even half a year off depending upon your job, actually. Just as well, if you actually need to 'find yourself', you're not going Finding yourself implies that there is a hidden part within you that will validate you, when the truth is that what you see in the mirror is what you are, and if you do not like it, you better work your ass off to change it.

10. Television is mostly made up of reality shows now, actually; some people's job is actually just to go outside and be an idiot.

11. You should be nice to everyone who deserves it, actually; because you're a decent ******* human being.
User avatar #123 to #9 - hoursofglass (09/18/2013) [-]
Life is in no way fair. How is life fair when a child is born in a poor, malaria-ridden tribe in Africa while I was born in a comfortable, upper middle class home with vaccinations and such? Not because I worked so hard to be born to my family and not because that child didn't work hard enough.
User avatar #133 to #123 - captainfuckitall (09/18/2013) [-]
The same way that the child, in most occasions, has a way to get out of his poverty while the child in the upper-middle class home will most likely have depression and succumb to suicide because his life is devoid of meaning.

You misunderstand what I say about 'fair' anyways. I mean that you are always able to choose how you react and prepare for situations and are always able to find opportunities to get out of unruly situations should you look hard enough or search hard enough.
User avatar #101 to #9 - rockamekishiko ONLINE (09/18/2013) [-]
what if someone wins the lottery? what if you have some genetic mutation and get cancer? what if you have an asshole boss who promotes someone other than you because they just like them better?
User avatar #104 to #101 - captainfuckitall (09/18/2013) [-]
They bought the ticket, they deserved to win; that doesn't mean life is not fair because it could have been literally anybody, it just means luck was on their side.

More times than not, you can prevent many harsh diseases, yes, even cancer, simply by being safe or taking care of yourself.

Then you should get a new boss, or report them, or record it and file a complaint.
User avatar #108 to #104 - rockamekishiko ONLINE (09/18/2013) [-]
a lot of people buy ticket's, only 1 wins. Many times you can prevent but not always - that's why it's not fair. Those are just three examples.
User avatar #110 to #108 - captainfuckitall (09/18/2013) [-]
So? You're not forced to buy the ticket, and losing your money is a risk that comes with it. Again, just because there are risks doesn't mean it's not fair, it just means it's risky.

What's not fair is not being able to get proper medical attention in certain parts of the world. But that doesn't mean life is not fair, it just means people are greedy; I stand by my previous statement.
User avatar #115 to #110 - rockamekishiko ONLINE (09/18/2013) [-]
it all comes down to, that in general, life isn't fair
User avatar #119 to #115 - captainfuckitall (09/18/2013) [-]
You have your opinion, I have mine.
User avatar #87 to #9 - zorororonoa (09/18/2013) [-]
So it is my fault when a random guy decides to rob my house and steal all my stuff? Now I agree with most of what you said, but that is ******** . Life isn't fair. You can't control others actions and thoughts. I'm driving save and following the rules, and someone plows into the side of my car. There is nothing I can do to prevent that. I get shot randomly on the way to school. Are you saying that I can work to make that not happen? Come on man, don't be stupid.
User avatar #92 to #87 - captainfuckitall (09/18/2013) [-]
Did you lock everything before you left? Do you have an adequate security system? Do you perhaps have a dog? Don't you have insurance for that type of thing?

It's true that life can be random at times, and throw things at you that are beyond your control, but it IS within your control to prepare and react to them. You're right, you cannot prevent another person driving into you, but your insurance can cover it and your own safety precautions can save your life (not only that, but that's why people tell you to look out for those things). Why would someone just pull up and shoot you? That seems a bit far-fetched but hey, you're in the middle of a city and you have a cellphone, you can try to call an ambulance or get someone else to (guns are rather loud after-all).

I understand my advice here seems very fragile and just grasping at straws, but so do your examples. I'm not being stupid, life IS fair because while you cannot control what happens you can always control how you react to it (and most problems are brought on by the individual anyways).
#77 to #9 - Rascal (09/18/2013) [-]
Life is unfair because some have better chances. Background plays a huge role throughout your life and will decide who you are. Children from families that are wealthier and/or has members with high education will perform better than those without.
Sure, they can work their asses off. But chances are they wont because the way they grew up wrecked their psyche.

Until you can guarantee equal opportunity, you can't claim that life is fair. Truly equal opportunity can hardly exist, but you won't get anywhere near it with a hugely unequal distribution of goods.
User avatar #79 to #77 - captainfuckitall (09/18/2013) [-]
Life is fair because people disregard opportunities when they do not know how to utilize them. Ask any financial adviser and they will tell you, nine times out of ten, if you are born into wealth or inherit it, you blow it. Furthermore, those children from those same high-class families tend to have very little life experience; put them on their own or without their money and you will quickly find the average joe lives easier and wiser than that rich kid ever did.

Equal opportunity does exist, you just have to make it for yourself. I stand by my previous statements.
#58 to #9 - Rascal (09/18/2013) [-]
"1. Life is actually fair, you get EXACTLY what you work for, nothing more and nothing less, one way or another. "

It sure took a lot of hard work to get this terminal cancer!

You ******* moron.
User avatar #60 to #58 - captainfuckitall (09/18/2013) [-]
It's true that you cannot control things like that, but you can greatly reduce the chances of getting it by eating healthy, exercising, and generally not sticking things inside your body that shouldn't be there.

You ******* moron.
#13 to #9 - joekerr (09/18/2013) [-]
1. Then no asshole / someone disliking and putting you at disadvantages was ever in a position of authority to you. That's the situation i pictured when reading life would be unfair.
2. I agree.
3. I would add something else to this: It is hard work, discipline and a good, maybe rare chance of luck that is necessary for that. Speaking of which, i think there was some meme about "dragon killin" .... you may be wise, talented, etc., the one to suceed is the determinated .... I have some content on that I will add. Hmm, this post will have it already.
4. Never got holiday denied because you're needed? Never made mistakes? Bosses don't approve like teachers do.
5. Having your own income generates independence and you learn about responsibility, maybe view it like that.
8. That's the lazy coward way you critzise. To be truely successful, you have to give it all all the time.
9. You need to be extremely competent or a very liberal corporal management that allows a leave.
11. Agree
User avatar #14 to #13 - captainfuckitall (09/18/2013) [-]
You get exactly what you work for. If you choose to work under a boss who deliberately puts you at a disadvantage, you are only doing it to yourself; furthermore, YOU should have the foresight to put yourself in a situation where that cannot happen, such as some other higher up seeing your progress or actually making a record of things.

Bah, luck implies it is out of your power, but I would rather thing that everyone has the power to change their life and circumstances, no matter how glum things may seem.

A good boss understands the needs of their workers, like a good worker will understand the needs of the boss; getting a holiday 'denied' isn't bad because in most cases you can simply say 'no' and go back to what you were doing. They can't actually fire you for that (at least not here in British Columbia/Canada) unless you were bound by a contract. Furthermore, even if you DID have to do it, chances are you would be compensated greatly. Again, this isn't about bosses in general; there are many bad bosses much like there are many bad workers, but good bosses and good workers never have a hard time even under bad circumstances.

That's just splitting hairs. You could see it as independence while I could see it as slavery; it all just depends upon the perceptions of the individual, and those perceptions are whatever makes them happy.

You're right, but the lazy coward is not a good worker, and if these people were good workers they wouldn't need Mr.Gates' motivational speech.

Not necessarily; some jobs literally do depend upon certain times of the year, some jobs cannot be done in the winter or summer while some can ONLY be done in the winter or summer. They won't make you sit around and do nothing and pay you for it, so it makes sense they will have you leave for six months and just pay you when you get back (or some such).
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User avatar #47 to #27 - captainfuckitall (09/18/2013) [-]
I never said that, what I said was if you let yourself get treated badly, you have nobody to blame but yourself.
User avatar #15 to #14 - joekerr (09/18/2013) [-]
You don't get to know your boss after you got employed. I agree however that one should react in the way you implied: Find another job. But you can't leave that job w/ the idiot-boss until you got something else safe. I definetaly prefer an idiot boss over being unemployed. On the other hand, there are people who do not even have this choice, as their qualifications are way too low.

60k p. a. is luck and not in your power - i am talking about normal people, no geniuses and/or inheritance people. I was talking about your point ;)

I was talking about that leave-option you mentioned. That's not possible for workers in the industry and if they do, they cant come back. It's naive.

If you feel like a slave, just leave the job. Bill Gates adresses students.

With this description I honestly had those opportunists in mind, that always kind of cheat their way through and use every option available to achieve this (most extreme case ofc).

Well yes, ofc. I didn't think of seasonal workers. I thought of the possibility of taking a 1-3 month leave at companies like the BCG
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