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User avatar #42 - IamEllis (08/05/2013) [-]
its so ******* ridiculous. Why let one religion dictate how the entire country must live their lives? isnt that why our forefathers came to america? to escape that? I was raised catholic but the church is a religeon of what man wants, not god. If two dudes or two chicks are happy together, thats great for them, it doesnt effect me in any way so who gives a **** if they live their lives together. When we live in a society where kids would rather dies than be who they are, thats how you know ***** ****** up
User avatar #219 to #42 - frobskottle (08/06/2013) [-]
I respect your position but would like to make a slight counter point if I may. The pilgrims that came over were escaping religious persecution, not religion all together. They practiced their faith in a different way than what the British government allowed at the time. If my memory serves me right, I believe they were an early version of Quakers or Amish and at the time the English church was catholic. The forefathers, or founding fathers, came around 100 years after that. They were wise enough to set up a country that was free from, and protected from despotism and tyranny of any form (at least in theory.) In reference to religion, it is my opinion that what you are referring to is actually the appearance of religious dominance in government. I think that is largely portrayed by the media, who tend to paint with broad brushes when it comes to a story. Go to a non-denominational church and you are more likely to find people that support religious freedom for all people. At least, that's how a church should be. I hear what you are saying though. I am a Christian, but I understand that not everyone in this country is. Everyone has the right to pursue what makes them happy and I fully support that.
User avatar #60 to #42 - sketchE ONLINE (08/06/2013) [-]
the thing is it is what the people want as well. most of the country is or was raised christian so they have religious believes built into their own thought process
#44 to #42 - mcginger (08/05/2013) [-]
this is a marvelous point, thank you sir
User avatar #45 to #44 - IamEllis (08/05/2013) [-]
no worries, I have a few freinds that came out a few years back and the amount of **** that they have to go through just to be happy is ridiculous. Any time I went to a mass, we were always encouraged to love and tolerate everyone. What I didnt learn until I was older was that they meant love and tolerate everyone as long as they have the same belief as us. The church has always used fear and guilt to entrap people and it wasnt too long back that they executed you if you didnt live the lifestyle they wanted you to. I dont mean to bash anyone's beilefs but I beilieve that no matter your sexual orientation or you whatever god you beileve or dont beileve in, you have a shot itno heaven. It's human nature to question everything around us, so why would we be punished for doubting a creator? I know I'm rambling now but what if god, rather than wanting to be treated like a god, wanted to be treated as a father? Not worshipped, but respected. I think he just wants us to live ours lives how we see fit as long as we dont hurt anyone else in the process.
#172 to #45 - sharkmonkey (08/06/2013) [-]
words cannot describe your intelligence
words cannot describe your intelligence
#375 to #172 - IamEllis (08/06/2013) [-]
oh please, I can hardly tie my own shoes, haha. I'd say it's more wisdom than intelligence, but thank you though. take this gif
oh please, I can hardly tie my own shoes, haha. I'd say it's more wisdom than intelligence, but thank you though. take this gif
#46 to #45 - mcginger (08/06/2013) [-]
those are some very wise words, and i do agree with you, that people should live how they want, not how others say they should. Like my grandmother said "if you aren't happy with the way something is, then change it so you are" and i have followed that saying for many years now and i have been pretty happy, even though there have been some tough times, but its all about what you make it. Not what others say, but rather you, as the person, has control over what goes on in your live to a great extent.
#59 to #46 - londonx (08/06/2013) [-]
#48 to #46 - IamEllis (08/06/2013) [-]
truer words have never been said, friend
truer words have never been said, friend
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