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#8 - Loppytaffy
Reply +55
(10/12/2013) [-]
(Britain also has free healthcare)
#180 to #8 - guyfunnyjunk
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Isn't CanAda under rule of the queen?
#114 to #8 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/13/2013) [-]
IF IT'S FUNDED BY TAXES, IT'S NOT FREE.
#177 to #114 - Loppytaffy
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Well I don't pay tax so it's free for me.
#237 to #177 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/13/2013) [-]
At least you have the balls to admit to this mentality, unlike others who dress it up with "we all pay together!" and are too cowardly to admit they just like the idea of other people paying for their healthcare.
#241 to #237 - Loppytaffy
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(10/14/2013) [-]
Well actually, if I did pay taxes, I'd be contributing to the national funding for schools, dentists, healthcare and other public places.

I don't mind that our tax is so high if it means we're helping eachother. Perhaps this is why Britain has been able to surivive for so long as a tiny independant country?
#243 to #241 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/14/2013) [-]
Uh, no? YOu're not even paying taxes by your own admission. It's pretty obvious the tax system is not about "helping each other", but rather lower income people forcing higher income people to pay for everything.
#245 to #243 - Loppytaffy
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(10/14/2013) [-]
I said "if".
And when I'm employed, I will be.
Yes, the lower on the food chain do pay taxes, but then there's supertax- 40% for higher income.
And the richest of people don't tend to use the public facilities anyway- sending their children to private schools and using privates dentists and hospitals.
#248 to #245 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/14/2013) [-]
You're proving my point and are too stupid to realize it.
#152 to #114 - imofcnotharveydent
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(10/13/2013) [-]
o wow, I contribute to society and society actually helps me back, it's the end of the world because is not free!
o wow, I contribute to society and society actually helps me back, it's the end of the world because is not free!
#163 to #152 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/13/2013) [-]
You're an idiot if you think a middleman is a good thing.

Why don't you jsut be a man and admit that the reason you like government healthcare is because you like other people paying for your ****? At least then you'd have your integrity.
#192 to #163 - imofcnotharveydent
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(10/13/2013) [-]
I'm not rich, I probably will only have a mediocre income and be happy with what I do, my father does sweep in a good amount of money though, and if I was a greedy scumbag then yeah, I'd probably hate taxes and want our family to have as much as possible, but I'm not, if taxes pays for at least one good cause then that's enough, I will never be completely happy with what tax money is spent on but one pro

also please tell me why I'm a fool for having my own opinion.

inb4 trolled u R Ma Gerd XDDDD!!!!
#179 to #163 - applelemon
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Other people pay for your ****, and conversely, you help pay for theirs. I suppose that's the logic behind the system.
#235 to #179 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/13/2013) [-]
That would be stupid. Why wouldn't you just pay for your own?

The purpose is to make one group pay some portion of another group's healthcare.
#178 to #163 - sursum
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(10/13/2013) [-]
You're implying that anybody who accesses taxpayer funded healthcare isn't a ******* tax payer. The whole idea is that everyone ******* pays. Stop using the argument of "oh you only like it because its free" when the chances are he is helping to ******* fund it in the first place.
#236 to #178 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/13/2013) [-]
You're a moron if you think everyone gets what they pay in and no more. The entire point of programs like this is to make sure group A is paying the difference for group B. If there weren't a subsection having some/all of their care subsidized by others, everyone would just pay for their own.
#240 to #236 - sursum
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(10/14/2013) [-]
I never ******* said that. I'm saying your a ******* idiot for assuming everyone who supports government healthcare doesn't contribute to it. The whole ******* idea is that because EVERYONE pays its cheaper than private healthcare, chances are if you do need to access it you will be getting more than you put it. Your pissed off that you for example might not need to access it and thus your payments are just lost money. THAT'S HOW REGULAR ******* HEALTHCARE WORKS. THIS IS THE WHOLE IDEA OF INSURANCE private or public. Jesus if you don't like it you can get a private plan and none of this ******* applies to you.
#242 to #240 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/14/2013) [-]
Uh, no, I cannot just "get a private plan and none of this applies to you". There is no opt out. If there was the whole system would collapse since anyone paying in more than they use would opt out.
#244 to #242 - sursum
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(10/14/2013) [-]
You can keep your private plan if you have some disproportionate fear of government.
#247 to #244 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/14/2013) [-]
ANd in regards to your above additional misunderstanding, the problem is people paying based on income rather than based on healthcare needs, not that I might pay for insurance I never use. I work in insurance and I'm perfectly aware how it works. In fact it's my understanding of the precise math behind it that makes me realize how costly "free" healthcare truly is, when every bored housewife can fill a day by going to the ER for the sniffles on taxpayer dime so they can get the most out of their "free" health insurance.
#246 to #244 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/14/2013) [-]
There's no way to opt out of paying for others is the point. I've been pretty clear on that, so at this point, your lack of understanding is on you.
#249 to #246 - sursum
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(10/14/2013) [-]
"when every bored housewife can fill a day by going to the ER for the sniffles on taxpayer dime so they can get the most out of their "free" health insurance"

I'm not even going to bother arguing with someone who thinks like this.
#252 to #249 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/15/2013) [-]
Fine, keep deluding yourself into thinking all people are responsible with other people's money when there's no consequences if they're not. However stupid you have to choose to be to get your "free" healthcare.
#256 to #252 - sursum
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(10/15/2013) [-]
You sound exactly like those ******* right wing tea party nut jobs in the US who stand around chanting "NO TAXES" while taking advantage of tax payer infrastructure and services.
#257 to #256 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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(10/15/2013) [-]
Only because everyone who disagrees with you sounds the same to you.
#13 to #8 - alexanderh
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(10/12/2013) [-]
Along with the rest of Europe.
#17 to #13 - Loppytaffy
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Not everywhere; but most places, because of the EU. I can't speak for Switzerland (and by that effect, Liechtenstein)
#81 to #17 - alexanderh
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(10/13/2013) [-]
I have family living in Switzerland, and as far as I remember, they also have universal health care. Don't know about liechtenstein.
#91 to #81 - Loppytaffy
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Anything Switzerland does, Liechtenstein does; they can't afford to be on Switzerland's bad side.
#204 to #91 - alexanderh
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Fair enough.
#12 to #8 - Cookiez
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(10/12/2013) [-]
(pretty much everywhere but america has free healthcare)
#135 to #12 - lukchy
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(10/13/2013) [-]
wtf are you talking
#10 to #8 - qchrisman
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(10/12/2013) [-]
I can tell why it's free.
I can tell why it's free.
#94 to #10 - metalmind
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Don't mock the NHS, it's far beyond anything you Americans have, and even better than our German system.
It's pretty neat.
#229 to #94 - makonendrak
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Having known people who work in the NHS, I can honestly say it's not all that great. Its design is too highly focused on middle management so money that could be spent on equipment or actual doctors/nurses gets drained elsewhere
#225 to #94 - jbywalec
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Look at all the butthurt American thumbing down this awesome comment.
#228 to #225 - yuukoku
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(10/13/2013) [-]
I'm not redthumbing it because I hate the British and their healthcare, I'm redthumbing it because he didn't get the joke (it's because they still got infected in the game) .
#226 to #225 - beardman
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(10/13/2013) [-]
"OUR German system"... "Look at all the butthurt AMERICAN"... The stupidity flows well in this one
#227 to #226 - jbywalec
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(10/13/2013) [-]
" it's far beyond anything you Americans have,"
The previous comment was insulting America's poor health care system.
Therefore, I said American will thumb it down because they are to proud to admit fault with their nation.
#214 to #94 - popkornking
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Pretty sure the joke is that they still got infected in the game...
#184 to #94 - anon
Reply 0
(10/13/2013) [-]
>unless your transgender
Gatekeeping!
At least they don't make you do RLE like Germany :[
#182 to #94 - fukkendragonite
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(10/13/2013) [-]
^This guy

The NHS is something I feel strongly about. It's one of the main reasons I love living here.
#171 to #94 - bellbottomshark
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(10/13/2013) [-]
And every time it gets more funding to meet people's demands their demands increase because they know it got more funding.
#119 to #94 - glasgowrangers
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(10/13/2013) [-]
It's ****
#181 to #119 - fukkendragonite
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(10/13/2013) [-]
**** off.
#79 to #10 - omninickk
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#42 to #10 - mexicandudeinsd
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(10/13/2013) [-]
why?
#59 to #42 - jinxbomb
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#88 to #59 - SirFail
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Ive never had any problems with the nhs ive had surgery 3 times and never had complaint. I dont see the issue.
#230 to #88 - makonendrak
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(10/13/2013) [-]
I knew a woman who died because the NHS kept pushing her to the back of the waiting list
#105 to #88 - snowshark
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(10/13/2013) [-]
They convinced you you were unwell and had the complaints surgically removed.

It's a conspiracy I tells ya!
#74 to #59 - jordieb
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(10/13/2013) [-]
Yeah so if you don'y like the service you get from the NHS go to somewhere else like BUPA and pay for a better service but its better than no health care because you can't afford it.