Scumbag Universe. .. the expansion is what makes it infinite...
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#3 - xmattx (01/18/2013) [-]
the expansion is what makes it infinite...
the expansion is what makes it infinite...
#18 to #3 - xsap (01/18/2013) [-]
how do you know there isn't a limit and its not gonna stop.. so that will make it so its NOT infinite
how do you know there isn't a limit and its not gonna stop.. so that will make it so its NOT infinite
User avatar #28 to #18 - Faz (01/18/2013) [-]
Scientists say that the universe will stop expanding when gravity becomes more powerful than whatever is causing the expansion, something they predict may never actually happen.
#53 to #28 - kerplunking (01/18/2013) [-]
Another possibility is that the universe will keep expanding until all matter is infinitely dispersed.
User avatar #88 to #53 - jehova (01/18/2013) [-]
But... Expanding where?
#92 to #88 - kerplunking (01/19/2013) [-]
...whatever is outside the Universe. Infinite, complete nothingness, presumably.

Assuming that the Universe is "stuff", the Universe is expanding into the "not stuff".
User avatar #121 to #92 - jehova (01/19/2013) [-]
That's impossible! Because if the universe holds all that exists, and outside him there is nothing. I mean, there isn't anything. We cannot say there is nothing. The form ``is´´ is not aplicable.
Or maybe our concept of the universe is very limited.
#128 to #121 - anon (01/20/2013) [-]
Whats the 99% empty space that the matter bathes in so to speak, nothingness ,a void..
User avatar #130 to #128 - jehova (01/20/2013) [-]
The eter.
User avatar #17 to #3 - maxismahname ONLINE (01/18/2013) [-]
but what the **** is outside of the universe. how does it expand if it doesn't have an end. fffffffuuuuu-
User avatar #19 to #17 - Mahazama (01/18/2013) [-]
Outside the Universe, there is nothing. Not even quantum foam, or the fabric of empty space.
It isn't even "space" because there is no such thing as here or there outside the universe.
It's just nothing. An infinite nothing.
User avatar #23 to #19 - maxismahname ONLINE (01/18/2013) [-]
my brain just exploded and then i somehow typed this comment and pressed "reply"
User avatar #99 to #19 - coolcalx (01/19/2013) [-]
using the phrase "outside the universe" is rather misleading. there is no such thing as "outside the universe." it's not that there's nothing out there, it's that it simply doesn't exist.
#10 - anon (01/18/2013) [-]
The universe is infinite because it keeps expanding, idiot.
User avatar #12 to #10 - gmaxx (01/18/2013) [-]
*sorry bad english*
Yes.. totally right
But i think the "infinite" it's just a conception..I mean:

1.it's beyond my thinking to understand something infinite
2.nothing is infinite
User avatar #16 to #12 - serhiy (01/18/2013) [-]
your second point is ******** ,
"nothing is infinite" seriously? the whole concept of infinity was based and introduced through numbers. if you want an example, lets look at a googolplex, this number is so ******* huge, that if tried to go that far in metres, we will reach the end of the universe. so does this mean that we cant go bigger? no. we can square two googolplex's and still add one to it and then....keep on doing so. you can think of numbers that can literally turn your head into black holes if you tried store it all, and it still wouldn't even scrape the surface the concept of infinity. (if you think that the black hole thing is rubbish look up the principle of maximum entropy.



User avatar #124 to #16 - gmaxx (01/19/2013) [-]
hmm. i don't mean numbers..
if you consider a univers is not infinite, but there are an infinity of universes, the anything is infinite. if not, infinity it's just a concept.you can't do something for infinite times.

but all is ******** :D
User avatar #125 to #124 - gmaxx (01/19/2013) [-]
then anything is infinite*****

sry bad englesh
#34 - hoggu (01/18/2013) [-]
Acctually, the most talked off theory is that the universe is expanding in the light of speed, therefore it will be infinite to us until we are able to travell faster than 299,792,458 m/s.
#50 to #34 - anon (01/18/2013) [-]
False, the expansion of space is greater than the sped of light, look it up
#35 to #34 - hoggu (01/18/2013) [-]
ehrm, speed of light *
User avatar #47 - kratosalza (01/18/2013) [-]
Isn't the expansion what makes it infinite?
#46 - doctorque (01/18/2013) [-]
Well.. infinite as to how we cannot fathom the scale of it.   
   
Otherwise it is quite a finite space expanding to a point, thus lowering the amount of matter/unit of volume ratio. It is like a balloon that was given air to later deflate and return to nothingness.
Well.. infinite as to how we cannot fathom the scale of it.

Otherwise it is quite a finite space expanding to a point, thus lowering the amount of matter/unit of volume ratio. It is like a balloon that was given air to later deflate and return to nothingness.
User avatar #100 to #46 - coolcalx (01/19/2013) [-]
actually, if the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate (which all evidence suggests it is), it may very well be infinite in size.
#26 - HerpinMaiDerpin (01/18/2013) [-]
Doesn't it need to keep expanding to be infinite?
User avatar #40 to #26 - pianoasis (01/18/2013) [-]
No. It needs to be infinite to be infinite. If it kept growing, that would mean it's not infinite yet.
#15 - sicohippy (01/18/2013) [-]
What makes it infinite is canter's diagonal, its a theory that suggests that as soon as an infinite set it complete there is another number right after the last. For example, in an infinite set of 1's and 0's as soon as the set is finished, another 1 or 0 comes in to complete it, making it a complete set again, meaning another number (be it a 1 or 0) has to be added to the set, and so its ever expanding. the universe follows an infinite pattern like this, and so the reason it has to keep expanding is to keep itself at an infinite set.
What makes it infinite is canter's diagonal, its a theory that suggests that as soon as an infinite set it complete there is another number right after the last. For example, in an infinite set of 1's and 0's as soon as the set is finished, another 1 or 0 comes in to complete it, making it a complete set again, meaning another number (be it a 1 or 0) has to be added to the set, and so its ever expanding. the universe follows an infinite pattern like this, and so the reason it has to keep expanding is to keep itself at an infinite set.
User avatar #43 to #15 - pianoasis (01/18/2013) [-]
You can't have sets of infinite in a 3 dimensional universe.....
Look up infinite
User avatar #11 - pawnman (01/18/2013) [-]
The ever expanding part is what makes it infinite.
User avatar #129 - therealcelestia (01/20/2013) [-]
If the universe was infinite, then brings up a problem, there must be infinite time to form an infinite amount of things.
Suppose, the universe is infinite, and the time making it, is infinite, which is obviously wrong, then brings up another problem.
If there is an infinite amount of space, that must mean there is a massive ample of time for equilibrium to occur throughout the universe, and by equilibrium, I mean in terms of temperature.
If the universe truly had existed for an infinite amount of time, the entirety of it would be only one temperature, and thats obviously not true, the temperature of one region of space, can be massively different from another region of space, a few light years away.
User avatar #93 - awesomenessdefined (01/19/2013) [-]
The universe is infinite in the sense that matter is spreading out, but so very finite in the sense of how much matter there is.
User avatar #101 to #93 - coolcalx (01/19/2013) [-]
"universe" means all time, space, energy, and matter in existence.

so far, time is believed to be infinite (there's no reason not to think so), and space is getting larger at an accelerating rate. matter and energy are both (most likely) finite.
#112 to #101 - beerholder (01/19/2013) [-]
no, time IS finite, and there's a reason to think so. If the temperature drops to absolute zero, every atom stops and so will time. Time is relevant only to an active system.
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User avatar #116 to #112 - coolcalx (01/19/2013) [-]
that definition of time isn't applicable in a chaotic inflationary model
#119 to #116 - beerholder (01/19/2013) [-]
true, however i was responding to the phrase "time is believed to be infinite (there's no reason not to think so)" in disregard of whatever theories might suit your liking. The big freeze is a distinct possibility.
User avatar #120 to #119 - coolcalx (01/19/2013) [-]
good point.
User avatar #118 to #116 - coolcalx (01/19/2013) [-]
at least, I don't think it is.. I could very well be wrong
User avatar #107 to #101 - awesomenessdefined (01/19/2013) [-]
The thing is, it is impossible to determine where space ends. If space is just nothingness, then it's infinite. But matter and energy are definitely finite.
User avatar #111 to #107 - coolcalx (01/19/2013) [-]
space isn't 'nothingness,' but it's also intertwined with time. this complex relation between time and space is what allows for the universe to be infinite
User avatar #62 - matttboyagain (01/18/2013) [-]
It will keep expanding....until it doesn't.
User avatar #45 - BwainPhreeze (01/18/2013) [-]
I thought it was infinite BECAUSE it is expanding... ?
#42 - anon (01/18/2013) [-]
the universe is not infinite
its in a infinite "room" where the finite universe expands in
#25 - haseotakaeda ONLINE (01/18/2013) [-]
Imagine this   
the big bang that created our universe   
Let's imagine there was nothing before the big bang   
so how could it have happened   
What if like   
a huuuuuuuge "big bang" happened on the other side of some parallel universal wall, and the blast broke through to our side and created our universe   
   
I'm not saying this is true/false   
but interesting thought   
inb4 78 people prove me wrong
Imagine this
the big bang that created our universe
Let's imagine there was nothing before the big bang
so how could it have happened
What if like
a huuuuuuuge "big bang" happened on the other side of some parallel universal wall, and the blast broke through to our side and created our universe

I'm not saying this is true/false
but interesting thought
inb4 78 people prove me wrong
User avatar #33 to #25 - ruinsage (01/18/2013) [-]
one theory is the big crunch, saying that when the universe ends, it all gathers at one spot, and then explodes into a new big bang.
User avatar #106 to #33 - coolcalx (01/19/2013) [-]
the big crunch is just the event that would occur if the gravitational force overpowered the expansion force.

what you're referring to is a cyclic model of the universe.

by the way, that is incredibly unlikely, as all evidence seems to point towards an accelerating expansion, which means instead of a big crunch, we'll have a big rip (where space-time literally tears)
#5 - kidbeanie (01/18/2013) [-]
Haven't seen a decent scumbag meme in a while. Nice one
Haven't seen a decent scumbag meme in a while. Nice one
User avatar #7 to #6 - kidbeanie (01/18/2013) [-]
But you can't spare a thumb for me? I see how it is. Guess I'll retract mine...
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User avatar #98 - shinobidesu (01/19/2013) [-]
If the universe is infinite then everything in the universe is in the center of it.
Because everything is equally far apart from the edges of the universe.
Since it's infinite.
#85 - fannagly (01/18/2013) [-]
But space is cool.
But space is cool.
#71 - crazyolitis (01/18/2013) [-]
Woo! Space!
User avatar #38 - pianoasis (01/18/2013) [-]
Not infinite.....
User avatar #22 - feeldawrath (01/18/2013) [-]
If it stopped expanding, it wouldn't be infinite. Duuuh.
User avatar #36 to #22 - SebyMeister (01/18/2013) [-]
Well, infinite=limitless right? So how come something without limit can expands its limits? Its a bit mind-blowing
User avatar #109 to #36 - coolcalx (01/19/2013) [-]
infinite doesn't quite mean limitless.
think of it in terms of number set theory- there are multiple levels of infinity, meaning that some infinities are bigger than others


now THAT is definitely mind-blowing.
User avatar #126 to #109 - SebyMeister (01/20/2013) [-]
Forgot about that, some mathematician (Georg Cantor, if I'm not wrong) discovered that there are multiple levels of inifinity..Yea, it is mind-blowing
User avatar #127 to #126 - coolcalx (01/20/2013) [-]
yeah, it's crazy to think that certain sets of numbers are bigger than others, but both sets are infinitely big.

it's just... ******* weird haha
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