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Hawking, the boss!

We are just an advanced breed at an a miner
planet of a veg average star. But we can understand
I Ill?
the Universe. Thai makes us samething uteri; specia
Stephen Hawking
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#92 - ethiopia (06/18/2013) [-]
only somewhat related thing I have.
only somewhat related thing I have.
User avatar #143 to #92 - eddiethead (06/18/2013) [-]
Hell yeah, X-COM!
#113 to #92 - badgerlol (06/18/2013) [-]
Dad, do you think there's people on other planets?
- I don't know, Sparks. But I guess I'd say if it is just us... seems like an awful waste of space.
#125 to #113 - stubborndrek ONLINE (06/18/2013) [-]
That movie...
That scene...
Depressing as ****
Makes you think a lot about everything though
User avatar #127 to #125 - cheastnut (06/18/2013) [-]
what was it
User avatar #155 to #127 - stubborndrek ONLINE (06/19/2013) [-]
It's kinda hard to explain quick, so I'll sum it all up for ya.
Movie's called Contact, it's about aliens sending a message to Earth that they received old TV transmissions they had from the 40's.
ANYWAY, the main girl lives with her dad, mom's dead, and they like to look at the stars and ponder **** . Then, her dad dies while she's there from a condition and she blames herself for not getting his medicine quick enough.
Now, 20-30 years later, aliens send info using math about how the people who sent the transmissions can use a transporter to come see them. They build one, the girl who's dad died didn't get chosen for the machine even though she found out about the aliens. A religious freak blows up the first machine and they build a new one that she can use.
She uses it, travels through space and lands on a beach on a weird planet and her dad walks up to her on the beach that she drew as a kid, even though he's been dead for years. It's the aliens using her thoughts to make a perfect place for her where she'll understand.
It's ******* sad, but they bring up all these good points about faith of what's really going in the universe, and how if humans are the only ones out there, it's a waste of the universe.
BUT when she tells everyone that she went, they don't believe her because she was only gone for 1 second earth time, but she was really gone for 10 hours space time, and no one believes it.
So, Mathew Macconohey (or whatever), a preacher/writer talks about how it's all about faith and what we believe even when it doesn't make sense. So yeah.
Watch it.

tl;dr
Dad dies, aliens use her thoughts of him to make a perfect world for her


Did that help???
#4 - ferrum (06/18/2013) [-]
User avatar #59 to #4 - rassamdul (06/18/2013) [-]
that size when zoomed in... but yeah... quite fascinating
User avatar #106 to #4 - guymandude (06/18/2013) [-]
Going by that, I'm sure glad that they must be only 2% "improved." It explains why we are still alive, as we go to great lengths to protect and preserve monkeys and apes since they are such "intelligent" animals (intelligence is in quotes because of the subject matter, not because I don't think monkeys are smart)
User avatar #124 to #4 - elcreepo (06/18/2013) [-]
Humans have but one separate quantity, though, in my opinion.

We have the capability to destroy anything and everything, and to adapt to new technology at an alarmingly fast pace. We don't need to understand something to be able to USE it, as evident with toddlers very quickly learning how to use an ipad.

If they gave us their higher weaponry it wouldn't be too hard for them to communicate "doing this equals death." Or how to make a certain movement to achieve pleasure. Even chimps can learn this, but at a slower rate. Whereas we seem to have honed on an understanding of cause and effect that is well beyond that of any other creature in our universe.
User avatar #129 to #4 - thesinful (06/18/2013) [-]
Yeah but did they nail their own god to a log or poison their biosphere to weed out the weak?
#144 to #4 - berkut (06/18/2013) [-]
So, this will be useless?
User avatar #147 to #4 - meganinja (06/18/2013) [-]
>implying that it's the 2% difference that does that. You only need to alter a few genes to have a larger brain. Tons of genes if you want it more advanced, but nowhere near 2% of your genome. The amount of effort needed into creating a larger and more complex brain compared to everything else in the body is negligible.
User avatar #148 to #4 - javalavalay **User deleted account** (06/18/2013) [-]
Well **** you

I happen to love monkeys.

#6 to #4 - Rascal (06/18/2013) [-]
WHY?

BECAUSE **** YOU
#13 to #4 - Rascal (06/18/2013) [-]
that is the first good and interesting quote i remember being related to that guy
User avatar #67 to #13 - toosexyforyou (06/18/2013) [-]
He has so many, though.
User avatar #85 to #4 - stcronin (06/18/2013) [-]
That isn't quite how genetics work considering most of it is repetitive junk and so little of it is coded usefulness
#12 to #4 - makegr (06/18/2013) [-]
Dude...That's the best picture i've seen in my week. It describes perfectly what i'm trying to say to the ignorants. Thanks, ferrum, here's a thumb up.
#11 to #4 - djoka (06/18/2013) [-]
Damn that **** is scarry.
#101 to #4 - irokk (06/18/2013) [-]
Fuuuuuck too deep
User avatar #73 to #4 - snowshark (06/18/2013) [-]
Today I learned that aliens are assholes.
#104 - swedishassassin (06/18/2013) [-]
And we invented America.
User avatar #133 to #104 - ruinsage (06/18/2013) [-]
We all makes mistakes
#105 - Happiness (06/18/2013) [-]
We're just 			*******		 monkeys in shoooooooooes - Tim Minchin
We're just ******* monkeys in shoooooooooes - Tim Minchin
#60 - nnsfw (06/18/2013) [-]
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#7 - sirhyden (06/18/2013) [-]
Then
#15 to #7 - ieatyououtaldaylon (06/18/2013) [-]
This guy will save us
This guy will save us
User avatar #48 to #10 - finalfaptasy (06/18/2013) [-]
Standing here with Stephen Hawking
User avatar #100 to #48 - iamnotgoodwithname (06/18/2013) [-]
she said she is standing here with steven hawking
never said he was
User avatar #115 to #100 - finalfaptasy (06/18/2013) [-]
I was just trying to make a joke.
I guess I suck at that.
#80 - tmdarby (06/18/2013) [-]
good quote
good quote
#140 - thebritishguy (06/18/2013) [-]
A lot of people say that without religion and spirituality you are just left with cold science and it isn't special at all, but science turns me on, the fact that we are so lucky to even exist because we have found millions of planets with no life and our planet needs specific properties for life, we are extremely significant. I think it is humbling also to remember that we are just animals and we do not have importance or authority over animals or nature, but we are a part of it and at one with nature.
A lot of people say that without religion and spirituality you are just left with cold science and it isn't special at all, but science turns me on, the fact that we are so lucky to even exist because we have found millions of planets with no life and our planet needs specific properties for life, we are extremely significant. I think it is humbling also to remember that we are just animals and we do not have importance or authority over animals or nature, but we are a part of it and at one with nature.
User avatar #168 to #140 - joethebeast (07/08/2013) [-]
its also humbling to know that the universe can **** us out dead with zero warning
User avatar #142 to #140 - angelmatvey (06/18/2013) [-]
Science turns you on?

I get what you mean
User avatar #146 to #142 - thebritishguy (06/18/2013) [-]
H20 makes me wet
#77 - pulluspardus (06/18/2013) [-]
"Man is so infinitely small , In all these stars, determinate.
Maker and moulder of them all, Man is so infinitely great! "

- Aleister Crowley
User avatar #117 - cantfindausername (06/18/2013) [-]
But... we're apes. Monkeys have tails...
But I still agree with him. He's a cool ***** .
User avatar #121 to #117 - niggasaurus (06/18/2013) [-]
In the womb, humans have tails. Some humans are even born with them
#86 - bobbyshallunite (06/18/2013) [-]
But we don't understand the universe.
User avatar #94 to #86 - techketzer (06/18/2013) [-]
Maybe you don't, but some of us have come quite a long way already.
#96 to #94 - bobbyshallunite (06/18/2013) [-]
We understand a small fraction, not enough to say we understand the universe. Its like being able to solve 1 page in a algebra textbook and say you understand the textbook.
User avatar #102 to #96 - techketzer (06/18/2013) [-]
"We" did take a look all the way back to the birth of the universe.
"We" predicted unobservable matter and phenomena from what we knew about what is visible and built devices based on them that work flawlessly.
"We" have mathematics and logical systems that describe the beginning, the end, the smallest and largest, "we" found ways to observe the unobservable and influence the intangible.

While I agree that "we" do not understand the whole universe, we understand parts of it and are in principle capable to understand the whole.
All "we" have achieved "we" have done so in the very limited span of a few thousand years; just imagine mankind in ten thousand more.
#103 to #102 - bobbyshallunite (06/18/2013) [-]
When I say "we" i am obviously using we as the same context as Stephen Hawking, we is referring to humanity as a whole. And to your point, for every thing you can list that we have been able to discover and understand, I can name 10 things we dont understand.
User avatar #164 to #103 - techketzer (06/20/2013) [-]
It says "we can understand", not "we do understand."
User avatar #119 to #102 - ScottP (06/18/2013) [-]
"We" don't understand the universe. Ask the smartest man on the planet, and he will tell you that we are not even close.
User avatar #120 to #102 - TastyBurger (06/18/2013) [-]
But we don't understand the universe enough to know if we understand any of it. Every thought you have, or anything has, will go off the assumptions that you exist, the universe as you see it exists, and that you can actually learn anything about the universe and how it works. You can't definitively prove anything ever, because there's a lot of gaps in our knowledge.
User avatar #132 to #86 - djequalizee (06/18/2013) [-]
He's saying that we have the potential to understand it. We don't know all of its secrets, but the fact we even know there IS a universe is pretty incredible
User avatar #165 to #132 - techketzer (06/20/2013) [-]
Thank you.
You worded clearly where I failed to.
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User avatar #130 to #5 - djequalizee (06/18/2013) [-]
But we understand what it is and that we need to search for answers
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User avatar #136 to #135 - djequalizee (06/18/2013) [-]
But we understand that it's there, and that it holds mysteries still to be discovered, which makes us pretty special.
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#35 to #5 - mrmamric (06/18/2013) [-]
> "can"
>"Can"
User avatar #17 to #5 - duvallwhitey (06/18/2013) [-]
He said we "can". We have the potential.
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User avatar #21 to #18 - krobeles (06/18/2013) [-]
You've no evidence to support the claim that our intellect or logic is limited.
The only limit i could think of in this respect, would be that we could concievably comprehend the entirety of existance, and therefor we would have reached the end of knowledge and logic, having understood everything there is to understand.

By since the universe is without limit, the limit of the logic and knowledge contained within must also be limitless. Therefor, this arguement also falls flat.

I'm generally not a fan of this entire "We're tiny little specks in the sea of incomprehensible infinity." thing that seems so popular with many people these days.
We're the closest things to omnipotent beings that this world, and perhaps all worlds, have to offer. As of right now, there are no definite proof that we're not the most highly evolved and highly advanced race in the entire universe. Since the universe is limitless, it seems unlikely, but we've got no proof that it isn't so.
We're toying with the fundamental forces of the universe just to see what we're capable of! Thats pretty damn amazing to me.

**TL;DR* Your arguement is flawed, and we're not insignificant.
User avatar #49 to #21 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (06/18/2013) [-]
Logic is limited to one bit per Planck volume...
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User avatar #26 to #24 - krobeles (06/18/2013) [-]
Poor eksample, i'de say. The fourth dimension is time, so that would be an object that extends through time. We all do that.
I do understand your point however, but i dont thnik its a good one. Just because we cannot comprehend something right now, dosen't mean our minds aren't equipped to understand it given conditioning and training. It also does not exclude the possibillity that we could evolve this abillity over time.

We dont know for a fact that everything within the universe has limitations, or if they have the same limitations. We've observed that many objects abide by the same rules and therefor have largely the same definitions, but some objects differ. A very banal eksample, would be that birds fly and humans dont, while a more esoteric yet still understandble eksample would be how we have mass, yet photons dont.
Since some objects can vary so heavily from the limitations of the human form, whats to say some objects vary in such a way as to have no limitations at all?
Of course this notion is probably wrong, and I'm not advocating it. I'm just making the point that we have no evidence to support either of these differing points of view.

If i fail to see what limit means, surely you fail to see what "evidence" means. But to be frank, i think we should abstain from such insults, and assume that we both speak, not from positions of ignorance, but merely differing points of view.
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User avatar #50 to #38 - krobeles (06/18/2013) [-]
Of course you allways need to specify what your talking about. Otherwise, how would i know what you mean?
I have very limited understanding of the fourth spatial dimension, but a quick read-up gives me the impression that it isn't, mathmatically speaking, that much more difficult from a three dimensional space. As such, if a mathmatical comprehension is possible, which i could understand it to be, an indepth comprehension is possible through understanding vector mathmatics, and as such, the object is not only comprehensible, but also understandble and calculable.

The existance of something also limits it in such a way as to say "It exists. Therefor it can accomplish everything permitted within existance.". Sure, one might see "everything" as its own limitation, but that seems like a pointless endeavor, as everything within reality, while still a limit, is such a vast limit that one might easily say it isn't a limit at all.

Sure, logic and intellect are dependant upon the experiences you make within reality, but then we're back to my previous arguement, in that reality is effectively everything there is. Something whose limitation is effectively "Everything ever", cant really be said to have a limit at all.

On the topic of "the goal of life", one can safely say that the original goal of life is to have sex and reproduce. We've evolved beyond the nessesity of reproduction, so that goal falls alittle bit flat. Whatever the new goal may, is the purview of a philosopher, of which i am none. However, i personally believe the goal of life is what you make it out to be. Your the master of your own direction, and by extension your goal.

We need not speak from a position of ignorance. We need to speak from a position of incompleate knowledge, but not nessesarily ignorance.
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User avatar #83 to #56 - krobeles (06/18/2013) [-]
Are you refering to god? Because I cannot see what one would reasonably say would be beyond numbers, save for god. I wont be getting into that, since to me, god(s) are merely mental constructs, and as such are entirely under the purview of numbers.
What exactly are you refering to here?

I said that the original goal was to reproduce, back when wer were still has unintelligent as animals. Back then it was merely "Ensure the survival of the species any way you concievably can.". This is not up for debate.
The current goal, as i also wrote, extends far beyond that. I also did write my own personal belief on this topic, so i need not write it again.
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User avatar #99 to #95 - krobeles (06/18/2013) [-]
So you're speaking about a being, force, entity, system, pattern, whatever, that the human race has no evidence for?

You seem like an intelligent fellow, so i dont think you would hold such a ridiculous position without some kind of logical arguement to support it, so lets hear.

As you have probably seen by now, I'm very keen on evidence. If there is no tangible evidence before, i regard something as irrelevant, even if the existance of such a thing would provide an explanation for many a thing. Without evidence, there is nothing, and as such, without evidence for this 'being' of yours, your arguement is nothing.
It is for this reason that i wish to hear your arguement and evidence.
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User avatar #112 to #108 - krobeles (06/18/2013) [-]
How do we know that its limited? Thats my point. You say its limited, but you dont have any proof of this. All we know is that theres a bunch of stuff we cant comprehend right now, but that dosen't mean future generations wont be able to.
Thats why evidence is so important. Statements without evidence are opinions or lies, both of which should be regarded very highly, when on the topic of science.

You've said a number of things that aren't self evident, all of which i've pointed out the faults with. You've put forward a number of logical statements without any evidence behind them, and even something thats logical, still needs evidence to support it, or else it looses all value.

Your statements are logical, but lack in evidence. And so long as they do, i will keep demanding evidence. Well, untill i grow bored, anyway.

And the ridiculous position i think you might hold, is that of a religious or spiritual person. You certainly give off that "Evidence is not needed." vibe.
Mind you, intelligent people can still hold ridiculous positions, which is why i asked you to provide me an arguement or pressent me with your evidence.
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User avatar #152 to #134 - krobeles (06/18/2013) [-]
Did i not just formulate why a 4-dimensional object isn't all that esoteric? It can be understood through mathmatics, which is a very intimate understand of an object.
The idea of "a new color" is just absurd, as that is something utterly outside reality. We cannot imagine it, because it its not possible. Color is light, and as such, there is only so many colors that can spring from light. As such, a new color is impossible and absurd.

You seem to have some wierd notion that just because something cannot be comprehended currently, it never can. You dont seem to grasp just how large the scope of our comprehension is. I believe we can comprehend everything in the universe. Of course we cannot comprehend what dosen't exist, becouse it dosen't exist.
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User avatar #156 to #154 - krobeles (06/19/2013) [-]
I feel like we're going in circles here. You believe that our understanding is limited, and i just dont agree with that.
I haven't quite figured out weather or not this is because a text based medium dosen't allow us to fully interact, or if i simply dont agree with you on an entirely fundamental level, but none the less i feel this is becomming a waste of time.

I've nothing against your opinion, or you as a person for that matter, but i simply think this exchange has become fruitless.

I guess only time will be the final arbiter of who is right here. Have a good day/morning.
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User avatar #158 to #157 - krobeles (06/19/2013) [-]
I have no problem understanding anything you've said. You just believe that there exists something beyond reason and logic, and the boundries of reality.
We exist in reality, so we can only observe reality. Therefore, we're limited to observing reality and the logic therein.
Luckily, reality abides by logic and reason, and effectively encompases everything there is.

I believe this is the root of our disagreement. But as i said, i dont think we'll reach a mutual understanding, and my previous comment was actually ment to a sort of "last note" in this, not an invitation for further discussion.
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User avatar #19 to #18 - duvallwhitey (06/18/2013) [-]
But how much is limited, Lt. ******** ?
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User avatar #25 to #17 - twinnedorphan (06/18/2013) [-]
somtimes I just wonder... what if we don't have it...
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#162 - tazerjmarks (06/19/2013) [-]
But what about the Digital World?
#128 - godisdog (06/18/2013) [-]
Oh, we are ******* special alright.
#71 - feelythefeel (06/18/2013) [-]
inb4 people get butthurt that he called us monkeys. He said it for simplicity, so that pleb-tier citizenry could understand it. The more technical idea is that we have a relatively recent common ancestor with them.
User avatar #79 to #71 - nustix (06/18/2013) [-]
I was about to say that. Well atleast I'm called butthurt but people understand, one time I tried to explain this on youtube but people called me a religious faggot.
User avatar #16 - galgawine (06/18/2013) [-]
But... we can't understand the universe thats kinda like Stephen Hawkings life quest to find out more about it because, like Jon Snow, we know nothing
User avatar #22 - spawnsy (06/18/2013) [-]
says the man in a chair
User avatar #33 to #22 - defender (06/18/2013) [-]
said man in chair is one of the smartest people in the world
User avatar #34 to #33 - spawnsy (06/18/2013) [-]
its a joke not a dick...dont take it so hard
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User avatar #57 to #45 - spawnsy (06/18/2013) [-]
yes...he says we are evolved monkeys, monkeys climb trees, he cant climb
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