They Did. .. The ban on guns will not stop murder; people will just find other ways to kill each other. We need to ban PEOPLE.
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User avatar #7 - breakfastskippa (01/02/2013) [-]
My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. - Sergeant Hartman

Basically, its a team effort.
#10 to #7 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
That's actually part of the Rifleman's Creed.
User avatar #1 - gunni (01/01/2013) [-]
STG2 Matthew G. Axelson; ITCS Daniel R. Healy, QM2 James Suh, HM2 Marcus Luttrell, MM2 Eric S. Patton, and Lt. Michael P. Murphy
User avatar #2 to #1 - swiftcoyote (01/01/2013) [-]
Oh, that gave me a feel. I didn't know who the picture was of.
User avatar #3 to #2 - gunni (01/01/2013) [-]
Most of them are dead, except Marcus Luttrell. They died on a hill being overrun by the Taliban back in 2005 during operation Red Wings.
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User avatar #68 to #4 - illegalartist (01/02/2013) [-]
lol yall ****** mad
User avatar #27 - jewsburninindaoven (01/02/2013) [-]
US Navy SEALS didn't kill Osama Bin Laden, guns did. There you go. I said it. They couldn't have killed him without guns. Granted, many people are happy that he was killed.
User avatar #67 to #27 - Iseewhatudidthar (01/02/2013) [-]
WELL... UM...

May-MAYBE one of the Seals like didn't have a gun, ya know? MAYBE He was sent in just by himself and then he punched Bin Laden in the throat and killed him!

Yeah.... 'Muricah....
#20 - nordicmike (01/02/2013) [-]
Can we please stop with the ignorant gun-control posts on FJ. Clearly most of you guys don't understand much about the topic.
User avatar #45 to #20 - yunablade (01/02/2013) [-]
Like anyone who has an opinion on it is right...

Its just a dead end.
#13 - zzzebror (01/02/2013) [-]
The ban on guns will not stop murder; people will just find other ways to kill each other.







We need to ban PEOPLE.
User avatar #15 to #13 - lolfire (01/02/2013) [-]
Or ban murder...

User avatar #56 to #13 - bulbakip (01/02/2013) [-]
Why not just ban murder? That should do the trick.
#65 to #13 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
It might stop people shooting up schools?
User avatar #69 to #13 - defender (01/02/2013) [-]
we need to ban stupid
#23 to #13 - comradewinter ONLINE (01/02/2013) [-]
But you won't be able to murder someone as easily. Keep in mind that killing someone with a gun can be very unpersonal, just pull the trigger and you're good. Actually having to stab someone and see the light leave their eyes is a lot heavier, and thus fewer people do it. Hell, a whole lot of people get illegal guns just because killing someone up close is a mess. It would also make it easier to solve crimes so more offenders get punished. Many gun-related murders never get solved.
User avatar #46 to #23 - thinegame (01/02/2013) [-]
Yes, if people want to kill someone they will have to do it with honor and samurai swords. Things will be more... interesting.
#50 to #46 - comradewinter ONLINE (01/02/2013) [-]
Atleast obesity won't be a problem anymore. If you're faster than your opponement, nobody can kill you. Why hasn't anyone thought of this before? Fewer deaths, less overweight. We'll kill two birds with one stone.
#29 to #23 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
Except for the quick shanking in a public place surrounded by hundreds of people who, because they were not paying attention, would have saw nothing. Not to mention Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people including about 70 children, having never picked up a gun to do it.
User avatar #16 to #13 - walhor (01/02/2013) [-]
But inst a big part of these guns killings actual accidents? So by banning guns they atleast remove the accidents.
User avatar #22 to #16 - zzzebror (01/02/2013) [-]
Ban accidents.
User avatar #57 - chiefrunnyjeans (01/02/2013) [-]
Gun control is just ******* stupid. Criminals don't follow the law anyway. They will get their guns banned or not. Just look at Europe. There are shootings all the time with banned weapons. And if someone doesn't have a gun on them they'll use a knife, sword, bomb, etc. Guns are just tools. It's people who kill. Anyway guns do more good than bad. Criminals are stopped all the time here in the US and lots of lives are saved every day by guns. And once again this isn't up for debate here in the US. I own a lot of guns and I'm not giving any of them up. Neither are the other millions of people and hundreds of thousands of dealers. All you other people in the world can get as butthurt as you want. I don't really give a **** because I'm having ********* of fun with my "assualt weapons" and they aren't ever going away.
#53 - flukeJr (01/02/2013) [-]
the guy on the way left is Matthew Axelson who died in afghanistan in 2005.
#71 to #63 - luiselvergas (01/03/2013) [-]
MFW I see obama respect to that american hero though
MFW I see obama respect to that american hero though
User avatar #58 - lilnuggetbob (01/02/2013) [-]
Fun fact, the homicide rate is Great Britain rose from .08% (per 100,000) to .67% (per 100,000) when gun control was instated.
User avatar #82 to #58 - thegamerslife (02/06/2013) [-]
yeah people need to look at all around stats not just the ones they pick and choose to mislead.
User avatar #83 to #82 - lilnuggetbob (02/06/2013) [-]
Whatever you say, but it is true.
User avatar #84 to #83 - thegamerslife (02/06/2013) [-]
no no i am agreeing with you. media and politicians like to throw the term "gun violence" around( and not even mention that number includes cops shooting bad guys and civilians defending themselves) and yes in the UK "gun violence did go down, but all other crime shot up nearly over night, and the same will happen here and these ignorant people that live in dream worlds will be rudely awaken if they ban guns in America.
User avatar #85 to #84 - lilnuggetbob (02/06/2013) [-]
Ah i see what you mean, sorry for the misunderstanding.
#12 - sironion (01/02/2013) [-]
Yes. Because they could have done it without guns. Just like all the recent shootings could have happened without guns. Yeah. Guns don't kill people, people kill people (WITH ******* GUNS JACKASSES).
#17 to #14 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
it existed to protect against the British, that need ran out long ago. Society is different from when the amendments were written, YOU DONT NEED A ******* GUN YOU NUTJOB
#21 to #17 - mcatheistnuggets (01/02/2013) [-]
At this point, gun control is useless, I own 7 guns that are unregistered, there is no way the police will know I have them or have sold them, it's not like they are going to knock everyone's door down looking for guns. I own two semi-auto shotguns, a semi auto .22 rifle, a .357 magnum revolver, a .303 Mk4 No. 1*, and two single barrel shotguns. Do I need that many, not really, but they all have different purposes, mostly for game hunting, the handgun for protection. There are guns being smuggled into and out of the U.S. everyday, trying to control what's already here is impossible. Countries that guns are illegal in, they have always been illegal, easy to control. Now as far as limiting the purchase of guns, raising red flags when someone purchases a lot of ammo, or high capacity mags, that's all good, but all together banning them? That is ridiculous. I believe that gun safety courses should be available as an elective, just as drivers ed is. There is no reason that you should be able to buy a gun without a license, you need proof that you are responsible and you know what you are doing. No one who is mentally unstable should ever be allowed to purchase a gun, nor anyone who has committed a felony.   
   
Tl;dr: SHUT THE 			****		 UP ANON!
At this point, gun control is useless, I own 7 guns that are unregistered, there is no way the police will know I have them or have sold them, it's not like they are going to knock everyone's door down looking for guns. I own two semi-auto shotguns, a semi auto .22 rifle, a .357 magnum revolver, a .303 Mk4 No. 1*, and two single barrel shotguns. Do I need that many, not really, but they all have different purposes, mostly for game hunting, the handgun for protection. There are guns being smuggled into and out of the U.S. everyday, trying to control what's already here is impossible. Countries that guns are illegal in, they have always been illegal, easy to control. Now as far as limiting the purchase of guns, raising red flags when someone purchases a lot of ammo, or high capacity mags, that's all good, but all together banning them? That is ridiculous. I believe that gun safety courses should be available as an elective, just as drivers ed is. There is no reason that you should be able to buy a gun without a license, you need proof that you are responsible and you know what you are doing. No one who is mentally unstable should ever be allowed to purchase a gun, nor anyone who has committed a felony.

Tl;dr: SHUT THE **** UP ANON!
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#30 to #12 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
And Knives, and cars, and bombs, and bats, and relatively easily made nerve gas or biological agents...Anything can be used as a weapon.
#43 - fredeminator (01/02/2013) [-]
If a person doesnt have a weapon he'll use his fists and stop before he kills the guy.
If a person has pepperspray he'll blow it in the guys face and noone is hurt.
If a person has a knife he'll stab the ****** .
If a person has a gun, he'll shoot the guy.

Banning guns wont stop conflicts between people, but it will make them less lethal.
User avatar #47 to #43 - Ruspanic (01/02/2013) [-]
It'll only make conflicts less lethal if the bans are actually able to prevent criminals from getting guns. Otherwise it'll just make the conflicts more one-sided and more likely.
User avatar #52 to #47 - tylermcall (01/02/2013) [-]
But it will drop the amount of crime. Do you think the boys in Columbine would've got a gun with a gun ban. Many murders are done in the heat of the moment or very loosely planned. Having the gun ban won't make it impossible to get a gun, but it will make it harder. Some one would have to find the guy who sells guns, trust the guy, spend a **** load of money for the gun, and hide the gun until he acts. It seems a bit complicated and only a few of the real murders would be dedicated enough to go through with the procedure.
User avatar #78 to #52 - thatguywhohasbacon ONLINE (01/04/2013) [-]
Did the boys that did columbine get their guns legally? I didn't think so.
User avatar #80 to #78 - tylermcall (01/04/2013) [-]
They bought the guns from a friend. The friend bought the guns from a gun show. Gun bans equal no gun sales. So gun bans would make it much harder for these boys to acquire guns since they could not by them from their friend. Nice try ******* .
User avatar #49 to #47 - fredeminator (01/02/2013) [-]
If two people are pointing guns at each other someone is going to get shot.
If one person is pointing a gun at someone and the person doesnt have a gun noone is going to get shot. Nobody wants to shoot anyone, not even criminals.

User avatar #79 to #49 - thatguywhohasbacon ONLINE (01/04/2013) [-]
What about mentally unstable criminals? and it also depends, are they robbing you or do they hate you for something?
User avatar #48 to #43 - improbablyyourdad (01/02/2013) [-]
Have you ever even been in a fight or stabbed? Imagine being stabbed or beaten over and over because someone wanted you dead. Imagine waiting 20 minutes before the cops showed up to help while you're fighting for your life all while being out matched. Even worse what if its a girl?
User avatar #51 to #48 - fredeminator (01/02/2013) [-]
Who the **** would do that? The Media makes people scared of that kind of thing happening, but truth is your chances of winning the lottery is probably bigger (even if you dont buy tickets for it).

Most fights end after the first few punches, if one side has a gun it ends just as quick, but with far worse consequences.

I was in a fight a few months back, some guys had entered my friends house (we were drunk and so were they) they refused to leave and we tried to make them - I was just about to grab a knife (we were in the kitchen), but I'm glad I didn't, since it couldve escalated far worse than it did.
User avatar #62 to #51 - improbablyyourdad (01/02/2013) [-]
First of all getting shot isn't guaranteed death, it doesn't have to be lethal or turn into an even worse situation. I also don't watch the media.
"Most fights end in a few punches" Not if the aggrivators are on a mission. Most fights can be avoided all together if the the defender just waves a gun. If the people that were drunk knew you had a gun they would have immediately left. Your story sounds fabricated as **** , elaborate a little bit.

I don't know where you live or how old you are but you cant be this oblivious to the **** that happens outside of your own home. Guns are floating around all of the time. Restricting the people that don't abuse them won't do **** .

#25 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
saying guns dont kill people, people kill people, and thinking its a pro gun argument is ******* retarded.
basically, this is what youre saying. people will kill people, if they have guns.
also, saying "please tell me more about how criminals follow the rules" just shows even more ignorance. if you honestly believe that it will be as easy getting guns, when theyre criminalized, as if they're legal, you need a serious reality check. according to your logic, there's also no reason to criminalize drugs, because criminals dont follow laws, right?
#28 to #25 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
Its not so much that it will be easier to get guns, it is that the criminals arent going to give up their guns, or loose their access to already illegally obtain weapons. There is an adage that says "If Guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns". It wont be any easier for criminals to get guns, only easier for them to harm now disarmed civilians....
#35 to #28 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
except there is no reason to harm an unarmed civilian at most times. Its when people go into ******* hero mode because they've got a gun that things go wrong.

User avatar #40 to #35 - toosexyforyou (01/02/2013) [-]
yeah those kids went hero mode
User avatar #36 to #25 - mookiez (01/02/2013) [-]
I can get illegal fully auto machine guns through My drug dealer. He offered to sell Me one. But I didn't have the cash. It is a lot easier to get illegal guns than You think.
User avatar #44 to #25 - blacksmithgu (01/02/2013) [-]
The only reason people say banning guns won't solve anything is because the south US still has serious smuggling problems from Mexico; banning guns would make these drug/gun cartels more wealthy then ever and they would sell (illegally, of course) in all of those poor neighborhoods to the very people you don't really want getting weapons.

The circumstances surrounding US gun control is very different than it is in Europe.
User avatar #11 - sgtwilliam (01/02/2013) [-]
Their epic beards killed him. Just one glance and he killed himself because he was not worthy.
User avatar #9 - whitenerdy (01/02/2013) [-]
If so, wouldn't that make engineers the greatest mass murders ever?

#64 - telfyr (01/02/2013) [-]
I think we should ban guns and go back to carrying swords at our belts
#32 - largenintimidating (01/02/2013) [-]
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First one. First ******* one. That's my response.
#41 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
""U.S. Navy S.E.A.L.S didn't kill Osama Bin Laden, Guns did." - No one, ever" -Retard who thinks his owning a gun makes him a Navy SEAL.
User avatar #42 to #41 - moooossseeee (01/02/2013) [-]
That's not entirely the point whatsoever. The point is no one ever blames the gun when something good happens, but when something bad does they instantly blame the weapon.
User avatar #34 - darman (01/02/2013) [-]
How about we look at this issue in terms of chemistry. Often times, the energy for starting a reaction is very high, so much so that it is not even feasible. In this case, chemists employ catalysts which lower the activation energy requirement and help the reaction occur. Guns are like this catalyst. They aren't the reason kill people but they make it a lot easier.
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#37 to #33 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
He has a point, I better thumb him down!
#38 to #33 - kraetyz (01/02/2013) [-]
Fun fact: The US Army is the prime importer of cocaine to the USA. Speaking of several things mentioned in various places.
#5 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
the navy seals didnt kill osama anyways, in fact he hasn't been active for a while, he could either still be alive, or he died on his own. Don't you think it's a little coincidental that all of seal team 6 died in a crash, when they were supposed to be separated into 3 different helicopters ? Clearly i think Obama doesn't want anyone to open their mouths. And why do you think they never showed us a body and instead just dumped him in the water ???
User avatar #6 to #5 - mookiez (01/02/2013) [-]
I have to agree anon. I think it was just a fake thing to get people to like obama more.
User avatar #8 to #5 - jjgf (01/02/2013) [-]
so if osama isn´t death , why he doesn´t appear on TV again? If the enemy say i´m death the first thing i would do is show that they are laying, is the most logic thing, or if he died of other way i´m pretty sure that al qaeda would say so .
#31 to #5 - Rascal (01/02/2013) [-]
the Members of team 6 that died in that crash had nothing to do with that attack. Seal teams consist of 4-6 platoons, meaning they could have as many as 200-300 members in a team. Seal team 6, or Naval Special Warfare Development group is, because of its nature, classified as to how many platoons it has but it stands to reason it has just as many.
#66 - bacontheive (01/02/2013) [-]
god funnyjunk sometimes just get together and become a huge pro-gun site.
hopefully these stupid pictures will stop soon
User avatar #70 to #66 - luiselvergas (01/03/2013) [-]
we love our guns nuff said
#72 to #70 - bacontheive (01/03/2013) [-]
you own assault rifles i assume?
#73 to #72 - luiselvergas (01/03/2013) [-]
they are not assault rifles.... they are just semi automatic rifles educate yourself before debating
#74 to #73 - bacontheive (01/03/2013) [-]
what? i'm asking if you own assault rifles. the **** is wrong with you?
User avatar #75 to #74 - luiselvergas (01/03/2013) [-]
i do not own an assault rifle that being said i did use to own an AKM-47 semi automatic variant. ill get another one as soon as i can
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