1911a1. . Designing som ething that doesny get proved on much for 1 years.. I guess if you design something well enough you don't stop making it.
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#35 - mesr (07/24/2013) [-]
I guess if you design something well enough you don't stop making it.
#130 to #35 - anon (10/08/2013) [-]
they did though, now they use the ak74
#83 to #66 - anon (07/24/2013) [-]
Whenever I use an x-box controller I get annoyed with how large it is
User avatar #1 - masdercheef ONLINE (07/23/2013) [-]
That's the wonder of modern technology. It's designed well enough in the first place that it doesn't really ever get replaced, just improved upon- stuff like the AR-15 platform, and the A-10 Thunderbolt II, and the C-130 Hercules and its variants. They were designed decades ago and yet they haven't changed terribly much from what they originally were.
User avatar #4 to #1 - thraza (07/24/2013) [-]
sorry meant to reply to you look at my comment above you.
User avatar #47 to #1 - mango (07/24/2013) [-]
And Boeing 747s!
#50 to #1 - anon (07/24/2013) [-]
Wish we could get consoles that are more like that now.

I want frickin Game Boy-style indestructible bricks for my portable games again.
#5 to #1 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
I thought A-10 Thunderbolt was stopped being produced. That there's a limited amount of them left, and those that still in operation, needed part scavenge from other aircraft.
So, if my knowledge is true, if Thunderbolt is so good, why did they stopped producing it?
#29 to #5 - nightstar (07/24/2013) [-]
Because a large scale invasion of Europe by the Russians, and all their armor, doesn't seem as likely as it once did.
#52 to #29 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
There must be an improved design by now.
User avatar #57 to #52 - jdborchardt (07/24/2013) [-]
I happen to work with a-10s, yes they are being decommissioned all over the place. They're old, plain and simple, they have gotten upgrades but they're old. The issue is that it's pretty much our only forward support aircraft, and also our only single purpose aircraft left if i'm not mistaken. (being only forward support air to ground) i can strap a AIM9 (sidewinder) on them and give it air to air capabilities but really they're SLOW AS ALL HELL and would be pretty much smacked out of the air by most other aircraft. But make no mistake the A-10 is HANDS DOWN the best at what it does.
#58 to #57 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
Maybe if the took the design from F14 transformable wing, they could make a fighter that can dual role as A10 and F22. That might change the maneuver issue of A10.
User avatar #60 to #58 - jdborchardt (07/24/2013) [-]
can't work, the gau-8 is an insanely strong gun, it's firing fore actually = the max thrust of the plane, yes this means that if they hold down the trigger too long the aircraft will stall. any kind of hinged wing design would be ripped apart by that gun when it fires.
#64 to #60 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
How about VTOL? Like the Osprey design, but 4 rotors. Uparmored them, put up GAU8 on each side: Tadaa! An insane tank hunter.
Speaking of Osprey, in Transformers Dark of the Moon, during the US invasion of the Decepticon city, anyone notice an Osprey-like VTOL with 4 rotors?
#84 to #64 - Elemental (07/24/2013) [-]
It's literally less a plane with a big gun than a flying gun.
User avatar #67 to #64 - jdborchardt (07/24/2013) [-]
I think you fail to realize how strong this gun is recoil wise. this gun can make a 30,000 lb aircraft traveling anywhere between 440-500 mph STOP, mid air. simply by firing for more than about 3-4 seconds. it's mounted center on the aircraft for a reason. You put it on a wing (assuming any wing could hold it's size (20 ft long) the second it fires that wing is gone.
#68 to #67 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
I was thinking mount it on the Osprey like a door gunner or something. And, wasn't the gun only took 1/3 of A10's length? Sure there must be room for two inside an upgraded Osprey.
User avatar #69 to #68 - jdborchardt (07/24/2013) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_Avenger look up this gun. not really door gunner-y
#71 to #69 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
Bigger platform for it then. 4 rotor VTOL, with wide body, 2 or 3 of these guns under it. Hovering over the theater, gunning hostile tank left, right, infront, etc etc.
#86 to #71 - Elemental (07/24/2013) [-]
For ***** sake, the Ac-130 has the smaller 25mm variant.
#87 to #86 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
Then, we need to go BIGGER
#89 to #87 - Elemental (07/24/2013) [-]
That is a plane that carries several tanks. It isn't even worth it by then.
#91 to #89 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
How about we strap 2 of the gun on an Abrams. Then give the Abrams some VTOL rotors.
#96 to #94 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
Hell yes!
#85 to #71 - Elemental (07/24/2013) [-]
It's bigger than a ******* car. And Osprey would be thrown out of the gun as soon as it fired a 1 second burst. The recoil is 10,000 pounds of force. That is literally the same thing as an A-10 slamming into the Osprey as soon as it fired.
#90 to #85 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
The OSprey needed to go BIGGER !, with FOUR Rotors!
#93 to #90 - Elemental (07/24/2013) [-]
What part of "equivalent recoil to an A10 hitting the platform every time you fired" do you not understand?
#95 to #93 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
What part of going bigger don't you understand? The sheer size make the recoil none existence. Plus, MORE DAKKA!!! rule need to apply here
#98 to #95 - Elemental (07/24/2013) [-]
When you are flying, it matters A LOT.
#99 to #98 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
The idea was to have 2 of the gun mounted at the side of the main body or mounted below the main body. These guns will point at the opposite direction of each other. So, in order to negate the recoil, the gun needed to be fired simultaneously. At once. Then/than the recoil issue can be resolve.
That, or we can install some retro jet like they have on a space shuttle.
#101 to #99 - Elemental (07/24/2013) [-]
Because having to shoot in the opposite direction of the enemy every time you do is a great idea. You know what's in the opposite direction of the enemy? Civilians and your own forces.
#103 to #101 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
Meh, just fly in the middle of the enemy formation. Not so hard. Black Hawk does it all the time.
#100 to #99 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
I am screen capping this comment section for future laugh.
User avatar #54 to #52 - Kanoah (07/24/2013) [-]
The USAF decided to update the remaining 400 or so with newer technology, and they're expected to remain in service until about 2028, when they're expected to be replaced by the F-35 Lightning II.

I suppose that you're kinda right and kinda wrong, but nonetheless, it's a badass jet.
User avatar #62 to #54 - jdborchardt (07/24/2013) [-]
this comment makes me laugh, sadly not because it's not true, the f-35 is anticipated to "replace" the a-10, but it simply cannot make a line of pure death across the battlefield like the a-10s main gun can.
#55 to #54 - darthtorn (07/24/2013) [-]
F35 was a belly flop of a plane. Too expensive.
Yes, you are right, A-10 is sexy of a beast. Then again, US kinda took a leaf from Luftwaffe's design. The Stuka dive bomber, I think, according to National Geographic, the wing design.
#2 to #1 - lifeofliam (07/23/2013) [-]
dont forget the m-2 .50 cal machine gun the Apache the Cobra hell even the Patriot missile system
#22 - fyourahole (07/24/2013) [-]
Bitch, please.
User avatar #26 to #22 - defender (07/24/2013) [-]
of all the guns i have fired in the military nothing gives me a chub like the Ma Duce
User avatar #27 to #26 - fyourahole (07/24/2013) [-]
The only weapon I've fired so far that was more badass was the M134.
User avatar #32 to #27 - defender (07/24/2013) [-]
lucky
#20 - anon (07/24/2013) [-]
Why change something that works exactly how it's suppose to work?

This is a bit directed to you black daddy...
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#63 - ssurtrebor **User deleted account** (07/24/2013) [-]
MFW the lightbulb.
MFW the lightbulb.
User avatar #44 - youngneil ONLINE (07/24/2013) [-]
Me and my friends found a loaded 1911 in the woods a couple years back. We were just walking along enjoying nature when we started finding a bunch of deer parts on the ground (dismembered legs, head, everything. From what looked like about 5 deer) and we started to freak out. It's not every day you find a bunch of chopped up animals. We started walking back to the vehicle to drive home and found the gun. Turned it into the police just in case it was used in a murder or anything. It was a strange day.
Just felt like sharing.
User avatar #49 to #44 - chuca (07/24/2013) [-]
i have a slightly less gruesome story where i found a dead dog, a bag full of spent shotgun shells and a empty bottle of vodka, no gun though
#59 - sympathyforme (07/24/2013) [-]
Big Boss loved this gun.
User avatar #45 - tenaciousjon (07/24/2013) [-]
Put bullet in

Pull trigger

Bullet come out

What's there to improve on?
#75 to #45 - SILENCEnight (07/24/2013) [-]
**SILENCEnight rolled a random image posted in comment #694676 at Anime & Manga - anime shows, anime games, anime art, manga ** Recoil, accuracy, bullet drop, muzzle flash, gun fire sounds, attachments, rate of fire, magazines, reloading mechanisms, bullet penetration, heating etc. The way you're describing guns is overly simplified.
User avatar #108 to #75 - tenaciousjon (07/24/2013) [-]
Let's not get carried away.

Bullet in gun

Pull trigger

Bullet come out
#109 to #108 - SILENCEnight (07/25/2013) [-]
**SILENCEnight rolled a random image posted in comment #5258240 at Furries ** Thats like saying
food goes in
digestion
food goes out
It is an over simplification used to describe stuff to 4 year olds. What you're missing out, however, is the complex processes involved in order for the system to work properly.
User avatar #110 to #109 - tenaciousjon (07/25/2013) [-]
Is it that hard for you to see that I don't care about guns or how they work?
#111 to #110 - SILENCEnight (07/25/2013) [-]
**SILENCEnight rolled a random image posted in comment #604 at Drawings ** It isn't, i know you don't care about it nor understand it. Therefore you shouldn't post **** about it.
User avatar #112 to #111 - tenaciousjon (07/25/2013) [-]
Someone takes his knowledge of things a tad too seriously.
#113 to #112 - SILENCEnight (07/25/2013) [-]
**SILENCEnight rolled a random image posted in comment #5161095 at Furries ** As one should.
User avatar #46 to #45 - chuca (07/24/2013) [-]
put more,bigger bullets in

pull trigger

more,bigger bullets come out
User avatar #107 to #46 - jaynsilentbob (07/24/2013) [-]
What about put more triggers on it

more bullets come out.
User avatar #48 to #46 - tenaciousjon (07/24/2013) [-]
You've got a point there, friend.
#65 to #48 - anon (07/24/2013) [-]
you obviously don't know anything about guns. i have never even fired a gun and i know theres a million different small things that affect the quality of the gun. such as rifling, barrel length, caliber/mm, alignment, and such. not to mention things like undersling rails, foregrips, sights, scopes, bipods, and the list goes on for a long ******* time
#74 to #65 - anon (07/24/2013) [-]
stop trying to be edgy
#8 - becke (07/24/2013) [-]
just going to leave these here
User avatar #118 to #8 - thegamerslife (07/26/2013) [-]
you got a special bunch posting on your picture. lmao!!

I had a mosin once. used to many corrosive rounds and not enough patches. cleaned it up good and sold it for $100 ($3 profit)
User avatar #23 to #8 - oceanmist (07/24/2013) [-]
Aww yeah mosins
User avatar #28 to #23 - becke (07/24/2013) [-]
hell yea
#30 to #8 - IGiveUp (07/24/2013) [-]
Just picked me up a mosin last week. great rifle!
The 7.62x54R is a hell of a round. It's about the same as what the M240 medium machine gun uses.
#43 to #30 - listentomylyrics (07/24/2013) [-]
No it is not you retarded ******* faggot.
User avatar #77 to #43 - itsmewaffle ONLINE (07/24/2013) [-]
Next time look it up before sounding like an absolute ******* .
#79 to #77 - listentomylyrics (07/24/2013) [-]
7.62x51 mm NATO (rimless)
User avatar #97 to #79 - itsmewaffle ONLINE (07/24/2013) [-]
That's what he just said you idiot, the R = rimless.
User avatar #117 to #97 - thegamerslife (07/26/2013) [-]
the R behind a caliber is "rimmed". the 7.62x54Rimmed.
#92 - novabird ONLINE (07/24/2013) [-]
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damn straight!
User avatar #18 - magicalsteve (07/24/2013) [-]
Goes along with the saying "If it ain't broken, don't fix it."
#106 - workablenathan (07/24/2013) [-]
I always get sad when I think that the U.S. Military favored the M9 over the 1911. Its such an amazing handgun. The 9mm just doesnt have the stopping power of the .45.
User avatar #116 to #106 - thegamerslife (07/26/2013) [-]
oh please. knock that "stopping power" bull **** off. The 9mm NATO rounds are very good at there job, and since they can't use anything but ball ammo it makes more sense to use 9mm. also capacity is an issue to bring up too.
User avatar #126 to #116 - captainstinkypinky (09/12/2013) [-]
Exactly, I hate how people assume .45 is the round made by Jesus. Sure, its great, until you miss and dont have any more ammo...

My opinion, at least
User avatar #127 to #126 - thegamerslife (09/12/2013) [-]
Agreed. My step-dad believes .45 is a god round. lol
carries a copy of a 1911 (ruger something, it's old as dirt) with 8 rounds and two extra mags... We get into it every once in a while since I like my FNS-9 (17 round mags, two extra). I do think however I have convinced him to get an FNX-45, so That's better than no progress at all, right?
User avatar #128 to #127 - captainstinkypinky (09/12/2013) [-]
Haha exactly. It's better than nothing! Don't get me wrong, both rounds have advantages and disadvantages, but if it came down to it, I'd pick 9
User avatar #129 to #128 - thegamerslife (09/12/2013) [-]
Well if it came down to ANY pistol round I could ask for and not worry about running out of ammo... I would pick a .22TCM or 357 sig, other than those, 9mm all day!
User avatar #119 to #116 - workablenathan (07/26/2013) [-]
The .45 has a lot more versatility than you are giving it credit for. All it comes down to are ammo capacity (which in some cases doesnt matter, for instance look an the FN FNP .45, which uses a .45 caliber, and still can hold 15 rounds), the 9mm ease of training (less recoil, so it is easier to train people to use), and the fact that most other militarys use 9mm. Im not saying the 9mm is bad. If it was, then most of the militarys around the world wouldnt use it as widespread as it is. It was mostly due to pressure from NATO to use a round that everybody else uses.
User avatar #121 to #119 - thegamerslife (07/26/2013) [-]
cost is another issue. and I'm sure it helps when the millions of rounds the military is buying comes out far cheaper than it would in 45auto.
also FN doesn't have anything to do with this conversation since the military looked at it last year (along with others) and still stuck to the M9, and even if they did go with the FN it would still be a 9mm version for several reasons over 45. probably mostly capacity and due to more females in the millitary than ever before and it is easier to get someone comfortable with a 9mm and proficient cheaper and faster than with a 45.

I'm not saying women can't shoot 45, but for the most part you don't start people out on a 45 platform, you usually start smaller in recoil.
User avatar #123 to #121 - workablenathan (07/26/2013) [-]
Lol, you make a valid argument. I disagree but respect your opinion.
#31 - kyleharkness (07/24/2013) [-]
While i love 1911's, and i personally prefer them over any other handgun in almost any case i would like to point out that they are no longer standard issue for police or armed forces pretty much anywhere as, while reliable, they aren't cheap and with only a 7 round normal capacity, are inefficient for long periods of time. That being said, for standard defense, i prefer a 1911 over anything in nearly every case.
#33 to #31 - somenerd (07/24/2013) [-]
Magazines are now being made to hold 8 rounds. Also, you would always put a round in the chamber for a total of 9 rounds. In addition, the USMC has now switched back to the m1911. I think it is made by Kimber. They didn't like the m9 because they would keep shooting someone and they wouldn't die. The Army was going to switch, but they couldn't afford it. Most SOF troops also carry .45s. Some aren't m1911s, but a lot are.

<<Which camo do you think works better? ACU or OCP?
User avatar #51 to #33 - Kanoah (07/24/2013) [-]
It's made by Colt, though, isn't it? Unless it was changed over to some other company, I've always known it as the Colt M1911 Asswhooper.
#78 to #51 - Elemental (07/24/2013) [-]
Colt has licensed other companies to make their versions for years.
User avatar #12 - thechosentroll (07/24/2013) [-]
Like Half-Life?
#16 to #12 - solidsnales (07/24/2013) [-]
Changing engine and evolving the store is not improving it? And as we all know Half Life came out in 1908 right?
#105 to #16 - thegazz (07/24/2013) [-]
Half Life came out in 1908?
Wow
User avatar #17 to #16 - solidsnales (07/24/2013) [-]
Story*
#61 - cursesnew (07/24/2013) [-]
Might piss off a lot of 1911a fans but watch this.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzmkGgQLCMA

1911 are more prone to failure than a Glock. So I'd rather trust my life to a Glock than 1911.
#102 to #61 - anon (07/24/2013) [-]
I would prefer a glock over a 1911 for self defense, but only because they hold more ammunition. 1911's Being prone to failure is varied by the manufacturers, get a good one and it will only fail you if you fail to clean it. For anything other than self defense, 1911 all the way. glocks are the ugliest handgun in the world imo.
User avatar #70 to #61 - littlehozz (07/24/2013) [-]
he made good points but he fails to recognize the fact that glocks on many many occasions have cracked on the slide making it impossible to rack
#104 to #70 - cursesnew (07/24/2013) [-]
Maybe that isn't as common as you think it is. He has 15 years of experience and seen several million rounds been fired on that target range. Glocks worked just as fine.

Those that break are most likely modded.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MawzcjM5dYc
He brings up some points there.
#72 to #70 - cursesnew (07/24/2013) [-]
He had like 15 000 hours of training and over 15 years of experience with Glocks. I'm quite sure he would have gotten such problems if they where common.

Also I'm guessing it only happens when people mod their Glocks.
User avatar #81 to #72 - littlehozz (07/24/2013) [-]
i have only seen seen it a few times. its i think more a care and maintenance thing. similar to how many guns jam, instead glocks keep firing but then crack from the over use and undermaintenance
User avatar #88 to #61 - justadude (07/24/2013) [-]
Well an AR-15 is more prone to failure than an AK47 but most people still seem to believe that the AR is a better gun.
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User avatar #15 to #13 - tonkkax (07/24/2013) [-]
Tell me about the way how the Iphone has changed sizes and specs during its 6 lifespan.
User avatar #19 to #13 - skiskate (07/24/2013) [-]
God i hope that is sarcasm because apple is the exact opposite. They make a new phone every 8 months for ***** sake.
#11 - anon (07/24/2013) [-]
Heh. You should see what we have in the workshop...
#7 - anon (07/24/2013) [-]
serious question: What are the advantages of a 1911 over say a Glock 17, aside from looking way better? Or say a 21 if you want to use the same caliber. Pistol-wise I've only ever fired a Glock 17 when I was serving in the military, and the instructors praised that thing like it was the holy grail of handguns
User avatar #14 to #7 - TheMather ONLINE (07/24/2013) [-]
You can drag it through a swamp and it'll still work.
User avatar #122 to #14 - thegamerslife (07/26/2013) [-]
that's cute. LMAO!!
User avatar #24 to #7 - oceanmist (07/24/2013) [-]
The only advantages are that a 1911 has a slim mag, meaning it fits better in the hand and is easier to conceal over a G21 double stack mag, which is like trying to hold a 2x4 its so fat. However this means the glock has a much larger capacity(13). From then on its all personal preference, such as how the gun points for you, ect.
#80 to #7 - Elemental (07/24/2013) [-]
Glocks are also generally lighter because they use composite components while a 1911 is all steel all the time (save for wood or pearl grips)
#82 to #7 - Elemental (07/24/2013) [-]
Also the 1911 has one of the coolest safeties.
User avatar #120 to #82 - thegamerslife (07/26/2013) [-]
M&P's also have that safety.
#124 to #120 - Elemental (07/28/2013) [-]
A glock doesnt. that was my point.
#10 to #7 - mattymc (07/24/2013) [-]
the M1911 is .45 ACP which supposedly has much greater stopping power compared to a 9mm
User avatar #21 to #10 - crazyllamax (07/24/2013) [-]
It's not "supposedly"... bigger=more power. 9mm has it's advantages in magazine size and weight. 45. ACP is more powerful.
User avatar #25 to #21 - valyn (07/24/2013) [-]
Personally, I don't like Glocks. They're too lightweight and it leads to very hard to control muzzle flip. The extra weight of the 1911 combined with the more ergonomic grip makes it much easier to control and gives you a way better chance of keeping your second shot on target.
User avatar #53 to #25 - Kanoah (07/24/2013) [-]
I don't like the design of Glocks, either, I think the squared mechanism is a bit more difficult to aim than the 1911's
User avatar #3 - thraza (07/24/2013) [-]
actually that is seen in all ages. for example revolvers explosives these are all old things that never truly change at the core but they are innovated upon.
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