the new doctor. John Hurt - the forgotten doctor.. This would retcon the entire series with all the 11 puns throughout the series and never seeing him when they did a flash back off every doctor. doctor who the g
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User avatar #3 - halotalim (05/13/2013) [-]
This would retcon the entire series with all the 11 puns throughout the series and never seeing him when they did a flash back off every doctor.
#51 to #3 - John Cena (05/19/2013) [-]
He didn't forget it per-se. He just refuses to acknowledge him. There was no record of that regeneration due to the Time War which was probably a good thing for him because he wants to forget that incarnation due to the actions he took while him. He has had 12 incarnations but to him there have only been 11 "Doctors". What Hurt's incarnation did was so against everything the Doctor himself stood for that he doesn't even think he deserves to be counted as one of the Doctors.
User avatar #52 to #51 - halotalim (05/19/2013) [-]
Big thing I would have then, why would his room for 'The God Complex', which is based on memories, say 11 and not twelve, and when he first meets Sarah Jane Smith after all those years, he said he regenerated half a dozen times since they last met, and she would be one he wouldn't lie to.
User avatar #56 to #3 - xehanortscrack (07/13/2013) [-]
He didn't refer to himself as the Doctor during that time period so there is no data of him.
#5 to #3 - shanmstr (05/13/2013) [-]
i believe he is the doctor during the time war but the doctor has no memory of this regeneration
User avatar #6 to #5 - halotalim (05/13/2013) [-]
And the Atraxi don't have it on video banks, the Cybermen do not have it on datafile, and the Doctor remembers ever detail of the time war except that one moment he got zapped by a dalek death ray regenerating.
#7 to #6 - shanmstr (05/13/2013) [-]
time war happened outside of it "space time" the memory gap is the entire regeneration so he could have easily lost this gap without a question
User avatar #9 to #7 - halotalim (05/13/2013) [-]
But how could he then remember the entirety of the time war and everything that happened before it but not that event?
#10 to #9 - shanmstr (05/13/2013) [-]
if the 'john hurt regeneration' happens during the timewar, (after the start, and before the end of the war) the doctor would only be missing a small part of the time war
User avatar #11 to #10 - halotalim (05/13/2013) [-]
Yeah but it still completely rapes everything we know and everything the series built up until now.
#12 to #11 - shanmstr (05/13/2013) [-]
I know, i cant wait to see how they are going to pull this off
#4 - supersnake (05/13/2013) [-]
that man is brilliant
that man is brilliant
User avatar #33 - manbearpiglet (05/14/2013) [-]
Toward the end of the Last Great Time War, the Eighth Doctor was imprisoned for over a month on an unknown planet with a Malmooth named Chantir. It turned out the Eighth Doctor had planned his imprisonment to infiltrate the prison and steal the Great Key when it arrived on a transport. After escaping with it, the Doctor noted the Great Key had been part of a weapon called the De-mat Gun, which could completely remove something from time and space.

The Doctor intended to modify the gun so that it could remove millions from time and space at once, possibly sealing the Medusa Cascade if needed. (COMIC: The Forgotten) This device may have been what became known as the Moment, and the Doctor used it to end the Time War. (TV: The End of Time, COMIC: Don't Step on the Grass) The Doctor said that he did fire the Moment at some point in the future, but its side-effect of memory erasure caused him to forget nearly all of his encounter with Chantir, among many other things. (COMIC: The Forgotten)
#31 - John Cena (05/13/2013) [-]
Ninth is best deal with it
#36 to #31 - John Cena (05/14/2013) [-]
I can't believe it.. someone finally agrees with me! Eccleston for best Doctor!
#21 - butterisgood (05/13/2013) [-]
I have a theory:   
The john hurt thing being the ninth is a coverup, because he's the new 12!   
In the prequel, they both say they learn about themselfs on trensalore, where the "eleventh", as we all know, "falls", and they wouldn't mention trensalore in the prequel if it didn't have something to do with the next ep. He'll regenerate into hurt and that's why he's in the 50th   
I know it's a lame theory, but i'm just speculating.   
   
and clara is susan
I have a theory:
The john hurt thing being the ninth is a coverup, because he's the new 12!
In the prequel, they both say they learn about themselfs on trensalore, where the "eleventh", as we all know, "falls", and they wouldn't mention trensalore in the prequel if it didn't have something to do with the next ep. He'll regenerate into hurt and that's why he's in the 50th
I know it's a lame theory, but i'm just speculating.

and clara is susan
User avatar #28 to #21 - phantomi (05/13/2013) [-]
Hurts a good actor I wouldn't mind him as the new doctor (although one of my friends thinks tennants coming back)
User avatar #29 to #21 - skilletpanhead (05/13/2013) [-]
I think John Hurt is Omega.

If you look back to the classic series, Omega has the Doctor's biodata. He could use that to disguise himself as the Doctor, as he did in Arc of Infinity.

He could've used this disguise to gather allies to use against the proper Doctors in the 50th special.

I'll post a text content explaining more on this sometime soon.
User avatar #37 to #21 - yetaxaa (05/14/2013) [-]
I don't think that he's the 12th because there's no way they'd get John Hurt in for a full series (far too expensive and I don't think he'd be up for the rigorous production schedule)
Unless they regenerate him straight after, which would be a complete waste
#26 - junkk (05/13/2013) [-]
Am I one of the few people who thinks that this might actually be pretty cool because it can be said that during the time war a lot of the doctors memories are forgotten (including this incarnation) and will provide an amazing revelation of forgotten history for the doctor as well as the reactions of his companions.
User avatar #13 - icameheretotroll (05/13/2013) [-]
11th doctor is best doctor
#30 to #13 - mossjesus (05/13/2013) [-]
2nd doctor
#1 - slapdebass (05/13/2013) [-]
so he can't regenerate again?
so he can't regenerate again?
User avatar #14 to #1 - thesuperhanz (05/13/2013) [-]
actually he can regenerate over 2000 times, it was on an episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures which featured Matt Smith in it. So don't panic he can regen many many times
User avatar #20 to #14 - butterisgood (05/13/2013) [-]
Pretty sure that was a joke, and he said 507.
#32 to #1 - asasqw (05/14/2013) [-]
Time Lords can regenerate as many times as they like. Time Lord Law stated that 12 times is the max to keep them from losing it if I remember right.
Time Lords can regenerate as many times as they like. Time Lord Law stated that 12 times is the max to keep them from losing it if I remember right.
User avatar #34 to #32 - xsap (05/14/2013) [-]
no, they can only do it 13 times, thats when they run out of regeneration energy... just like how river used all her energy to bring doctor back to life and when the doctor used his regeneration energy to heal rivers hand she slapped him because it was a waste of regeneration energy
#2 to #1 - shanmstr (05/13/2013) [-]
yes he has one left plus all of river songs reaming regeneration's so we are good for a long while
User avatar #22 to #2 - yetaxaa (05/13/2013) [-]
He was not given River Song's regenerations, it doesn't work like that. She gave up her remaining regenerations to save his life, and they were gone.
User avatar #8 to #2 - zilver (05/13/2013) [-]
and im only on season 6 of the classic series, still b/w. I have a long way to go
User avatar #16 to #8 - potrsr (05/13/2013) [-]
indeed you do. i will watch the classics during summer, to much school work atm. can you share link to classics? tv-links doesnt want to stream 2nd episode :(
User avatar #17 to #16 - zilver (05/13/2013) [-]
i used tv-links eu to keep track of the episodes and i just searched for episodes on dailymotion, found all excisting episodes so far that way, from season 1-5 there are a lot of missing episodes :(
User avatar #18 to #17 - potrsr (05/13/2013) [-]
they destroy them or something for ''space-saving''reason... idiots. thanks any way
User avatar #19 to #18 - zilver (05/13/2013) [-]
some were damaged by waterleaks, not sure if that can be trusted, but i saw rumors about it somewhere
User avatar #27 to #19 - yetaxaa (05/13/2013) [-]
All episodes (the master tapes at least) that were destroyed, were done so deliberately. Wiped and reused.

A handful of the film copies were destroyed by fire (such as the copies of The Reign of Terror 4 and 5 that Cyprus had) but most were destroyed for space saving reasons.

And there are some very intriguing rumours about the current search in Africa for some of these missing episodes...
User avatar #15 - thesuperhanz (05/13/2013) [-]
he can regenerate over 2000 times, it was on an episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures which featured Matt Smith in it. So don't panic he can regen many many times

Also Matt Smith is the best Doctor...I'll stand by that forever as the character it's amazing how he can be like a clown then seriously angry/upset

David Tennent just cried all the time
User avatar #25 to #15 - stultum (05/13/2013) [-]
507
User avatar #23 to #15 - yetaxaa (05/13/2013) [-]
Actually he said 507
And it was a joke.
Still the intention of the writer was that there really is no limit to regeneration anymore.
And William Hartnell is best Doctor
#50 to #23 - John Cena (05/18/2013) [-]
RTD said he put in the 507 as a joke, but people took it seriously and he himself has said many times the 12 regeneration limit is still very much active.
#40 - John Cena (05/14/2013) [-]
dr hoo iz 4 fagetz
#47 - tastymelon (05/16/2013) [-]
here is my only complaint with john hurt being a doctor, the doctors have been all in all lesser known actors, yes they did other stuff, but thats not really what they are remembered for. they are known for being the doctor. John hurt has been in quite a few big movies and is a large scale actor. its the same problem id have if say morgan freeman was the doctor, i would't see the doctor id see morgan freeman acting, its the same with john hurt, sean connery did a good job in the hunt for red october but i only know his character as Sean Connery
#48 to #47 - shanmstr (05/16/2013) [-]
christopher eccleston was a big actor before who, i fine with big actors performing the role of the doctor for one off situation eccleston for a season, hurt for a story etc.i would not mind seeing other big actors play the doctor but only for a short period of time
#41 - semidemon (05/14/2013) [-]
im thinking of starting dr who
anyone got suggestions as to where i should start from?
#44 to #41 - shanmstr (05/14/2013) [-]
watch an episode called Blink, if you like it start with season 1(2005) push through until it gets good and then it only gets better
#49 to #41 - lauen (05/16/2013) [-]
Start on season 1, with Eccleston, that's where I started. if you really wanna go all out, you could start with the older series.
#45 to #41 - John Cena (05/15/2013) [-]
I've got a suggestion: Don't start it.
#46 to #45 - semidemon (05/15/2013) [-]
why not?
#54 to #46 - restfullwicked (05/29/2013) [-]
dont feed the trolls. Start from season one from 2007 unless you really want to watch the classic stuff. Criss wasn't a bad doctor all things considered.
#55 to #54 - semidemon (05/29/2013) [-]
allright thanx
User avatar #43 to #41 - waacson (05/14/2013) [-]
2005.
#38 - retxab (05/14/2013) [-]
8 looks like a white morgan freeman
User avatar #53 to #38 - donkysmel (05/20/2013) [-]
Number 11 looks like a guy named David Tennat
User avatar #39 to #38 - ultimateiceman (05/14/2013) [-]
or you know, snape
User avatar #42 to #39 - sketchE (05/14/2013) [-]
i think he meant 9
#35 - xsap (05/14/2013) [-]
OOOOOO I see what they did there.... and its smart too because we never actually saw the 9th doctors regeneration so there could have been a forgotten doctor but there was an episode where the trades showed amy all of the doctors regeneration but he wasn't in it and also the giant eye from the first episode with the 11th doctor

p.s i love this picture.. look at matt and david in the background
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