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#4 - Rascal (05/19/2013) [-]
That ******* bitch kid annoys me so much.
User avatar #91 to #4 - thumbeater (05/20/2013) [-]
everyone in this season annoys me :/
User avatar #18 to #4 - mymiddleleg (05/19/2013) [-]
Her brother i hate the most he is a terrible actor
#21 to #18 - johto (05/19/2013) [-]
But he now finds space incredibly interesting.
User avatar #37 to #4 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
"Excuse me. I'm bored?"
User avatar #5 to #4 - AbsentMinded (05/19/2013) [-]
The one who's not Stormageddon or memorable?
#7 to #5 - Rascal (05/19/2013) [-]
The hatred I have for her cannot be forgotten.
#17 - mymiddleleg (05/19/2013) [-]
Completely different points in time, they both would be dead
Completely different points in time, they both would be dead
#101 to #17 - toyaisle (05/20/2013) [-]
Well they do know a Time Lord......
Well they do know a Time Lord......
#19 to #17 - nshx (05/19/2013) [-]
Doesn't matter, time travel, savvy?
#63 to #17 - Rascal (05/20/2013) [-]
I believe the woman was a few hundreds or thousands year old
#92 to #17 - Rascal (05/20/2013) [-]
God, Strax's destructive humour always makes me laugh when he says something.
#50 to #17 - faithrider (05/20/2013) [-]
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User avatar #25 to #17 - srslyjakecease (05/19/2013) [-]
It is Doctor Who we are talking about here.
#1 - crazyolitis (05/19/2013) [-]
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#32 to #1 - Orangewo ONLINE (05/20/2013) [-]
he's going back in!
he's going back in!
#2 - worldatarms (05/19/2013) [-]
I didn't, who could.... WHAT?!
I didn't, who could.... WHAT?!
User avatar #28 - xyxoz (05/19/2013) [-]
Man, that finale left me Hurt at the end.
User avatar #31 to #28 - FurryBalls (05/20/2013) [-]
I see what you did there
#52 to #28 - Rascal (05/20/2013) [-]
Stahp.
#59 to #28 - Rascal (05/20/2013) [-]
I GET IT
User avatar #34 to #28 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
I don't get what that was all about. Are we getting a new Doctor next season that's him???
#49 to #34 - faithrider (05/20/2013) [-]
i'm not sure, because john hurt was him at that point, but i read that matt smith is confirmed for series 8. so i am thinking that my friend has an excellent theory. you know how the doctor never wants to talk about what he did to his own people? john hurt is the real 9th doctor. and because the doctor wants to forget about it that is why there eccleston was called the 9th, tennant 10th, and smith as 11th. where-as really they are eccleston10, tennant 11, and smith 12. i like his theory and it has some validity i believe.
i'm not sure, because john hurt was him at that point, but i read that matt smith is confirmed for series 8. so i am thinking that my friend has an excellent theory. you know how the doctor never wants to talk about what he did to his own people? john hurt is the real 9th doctor. and because the doctor wants to forget about it that is why there eccleston was called the 9th, tennant 10th, and smith as 11th. where-as really they are eccleston10, tennant 11, and smith 12. i like his theory and it has some validity i believe.
User avatar #72 to #49 - slowlearndurr (05/20/2013) [-]
No, you are all missing the point. He said that the man we saw was not the doctor, but the man before the doctor. Before he started naming himself the doctor. So the first doctor that we know of, is not actually is original form.
#77 to #72 - zerum (05/20/2013) [-]
He said that what he did wasn't "In the name of The Doctor", meaning that what he did was something that happened after he took up the name "Doctor".

So I'm thinking this will be our Valeyard for the new series. That's one of the most obvious ones, at least.
User avatar #78 to #77 - slowlearndurr (05/20/2013) [-]
Maybe you are right. Just my two cents.
#87 to #78 - paradoxpoetic (05/20/2013) [-]
To clarify, The Doctor gave himself the title `Doctor`because he makes people better. Destroying two races, committing genocide at that level... He felt ashamed. That was him the man, but not under the name of the Doctor.
User avatar #107 to #49 - rainbowrush ONLINE (05/20/2013) [-]
I haven't read anything. However, I have two theories. There might be a Time War movie or something like that.
User avatar #86 to #49 - taintedangel (05/20/2013) [-]
you're mixing up the order of the regeneration with the ones they call the 'Doctor'.

hurt is the 9th regeneration, but he's not considered a 'Doctor', but Eccelston is the 9th 'Doctor'.
User avatar #90 to #86 - faithrider (05/20/2013) [-]
i see what your saying technically. i was using doctor in the sense of the individual person not the "promise" as he puts it. read paradoxpoetics thread. it is closer to the exact way of putting it. i'm just not good with words and when i used the numbers, i meant the regernerations not the Doctor's
User avatar #51 to #49 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
But I thought it was the 8th who did it...
#58 to #34 - paradoxpoetic (05/20/2013) [-]
I'll clear this up really easy for you.

We didn't see the regeneration between 8 & 9. We all assumed that 8 is the version of the Doctor that destroyed the Time Lords and Daleks. As it turns out, though, the character played by John Hurt is the regeneration the commited the act. The entire bit at the end, "he's me, he's not the Doctor", means that the character played by John Hurt is regeneration after 8. 9 still remains the 9th Doctor, though, because (as 11 said) he committed genocide and that's not what the Doctor does. He is the regeneration between 8 and 9. And if you notice, there are so many times when 9 seems close to destroying, almost using a gun on the Dalek... 9's purpose was to help get himself back on track as the Doctor. This is why Rose was so important to him, because Rose helped him come back fully into his role as the Doctor. That's why he's so violent in the beginning but nearing the end of his series he choose to be a coward and let the daleks live, also saving the human race below, instead of recommitting the genocide his previous self did.

So it's a regeneration, yes, but they don't recognize the regeneration as the 'Doctor'. This is also why Clara saw his name in the book. If he's the only survivor, he would have to finish the book. He wouldn't write down "Doctor" if he doesn't feel the regeneration deserves the title. Out of shame, and regret, he would have put his own name.

Also, John Hurt leaked that he would sort of play the Doctor, in a 'kind-of trinity' in the 50th.

Hope that helps.
User avatar #80 to #58 - faithrider (05/20/2013) [-]
just so you know this is the theory that i support, however there is as yet no confirmed truth. it seems like the most likely scenario
#81 to #80 - paradoxpoetic (05/20/2013) [-]
Hurt has leaked his role in the upcoming 50th, as well as what the Doctor said at the end of the finale upports this as well
User avatar #85 to #81 - faithrider (05/20/2013) [-]
sauce?
User avatar #106 to #85 - theexo ONLINE (05/20/2013) [-]
i don't have the sauce but i can confirm what he said, i read some article somewhere. google it
User avatar #113 to #58 - potrsr (05/20/2013) [-]
nice theory, but no one knew about this regenarion till saturday/when it was leaked he will be 8.5th doctor. so every one thought 9th was beeing 9th and not waht you have said. We'll have to wait til 23rd or other news...
User avatar #76 to #58 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
Don't really get what that last bit means, but that sounds pretty cool.
#79 to #76 - paradoxpoetic (05/20/2013) [-]
It means in the 50th anniversary episode, Hurt, Tennant and Smith will all 3 be on screen, as a Doctor paradox thing.
User avatar #96 to #79 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
OOH!
User avatar #97 to #96 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
When will that be?
#53 to #34 - mitchimusk (05/20/2013) [-]
Well he isn't the new Doctor. He is the LAST Doctor. The one who shares his secret. The incarnation in which the Doctor dies
User avatar #40 to #34 - holycrapimacupcake (05/20/2013) [-]
Yes, and I am skeptical about him.
User avatar #41 to #40 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
But the 11th didn't even regenerate!

Also, NOVEMBER???
User avatar #42 to #41 - holycrapimacupcake (05/20/2013) [-]
Did you watch Saturdays episode?
User avatar #44 to #42 - episode ONLINE (05/20/2013) [-]
Can I eat you?
User avatar #47 to #44 - episode ONLINE (05/20/2013) [-]
Awee.... I wanted a cupcake....
User avatar #43 to #42 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
Eh?
User avatar #45 to #43 - holycrapimacupcake (05/20/2013) [-]
Do you mind spoilers if you have not seen it? If not inbox me.
User avatar #48 to #45 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
What was the general plot of it? I don't really mind spoilers, especially if I'm going to watch it soon.
User avatar #62 to #48 - holycrapimacupcake (05/20/2013) [-]
Basically the Doctor goes to the one place no time traveler is to go, a place where their lives collapse into one final place.
User avatar #75 to #62 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
You mean The Name of the Doctor? The latest episode?
#64 to #62 - boomshire (05/20/2013) [-]
What if hurt is an older 8?
User avatar #148 to #64 - holycrapimacupcake (05/23/2013) [-]
SPOILERS WILL FOLLOW!

Hurt is the Doctor before he was even the Doctor. He is the one who did what he had to do in the Time War, but not in the name of the Doctor.He came before the first Doctor.
User avatar #33 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
Stormageddon!
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#3 - platapus (05/19/2013) [-]
didn't they say that they had been at war with the cybermen for a thousand years? stormagedan would be long gone by then
didn't they say that they had been at war with the cybermen for a thousand years? stormagedan would be long gone by then
User avatar #39 to #3 - draezeth (05/20/2013) [-]
I LOVE how Tennant says "well". Now I always do it in his accent whenever I say it.

Best doctor. Except maybe Tom Baker.
#13 to #3 - Rascal (05/19/2013) [-]
One should not blaspheme. The Dark Lord does not take kindly to heretics.
#6 to #3 - stultum (05/19/2013) [-]
Who knows what's gonna happen! Maybe the doctor will take them on a holiday trip and accidentally drop them off in the future?   
   
DOCTOR!!!!
Who knows what's gonna happen! Maybe the doctor will take them on a holiday trip and accidentally drop them off in the future?

DOCTOR!!!!
#133 - ajperry (05/20/2013) [-]
That isn't how it works. The Queen was thousands of years in the future as was the soldier on the cyberman's planet.   
   
That isn't how time works unless the Doctor himself took them there, and lets face it, why would he.
That isn't how it works. The Queen was thousands of years in the future as was the soldier on the cyberman's planet.

That isn't how time works unless the Doctor himself took them there, and lets face it, why would he.
User avatar #147 to #133 - threadz (05/23/2013) [-]
Because he wanted to meet them again and thought the best way to do that would be to put them into danger.
User avatar #149 to #147 - ajperry (05/23/2013) [-]
No that's stupid. The Doctor doesn't want to put anybody in danger.
User avatar #150 to #149 - threadz (05/23/2013) [-]
Are you kidding? A war starts every other time he goes somewhere new. The rest of the time Amy get's trapped in the future or some **** like that.
User avatar #151 to #150 - ajperry (05/23/2013) [-]
He doesn't want to put anybody in danger. Danger just finds him, his companions always come out of choice, they are never forced.
User avatar #152 to #151 - threadz (05/24/2013) [-]
I'm almost certain he's got some kind of pheromone based mind control thingy going on.
#153 to #133 - phoenixactual (06/17/2013) [-]
because fixed point in time, thats why. they had to be there, so he brought them there.
#120 - lethallizzie (05/20/2013) [-]
.O ...MY...GOD.....
.O ...MY...GOD.....
#55 - darthblam (05/20/2013) [-]
Except those times are hundreds to thousands of years apart, so no.
#132 to #55 - realvegzillar (05/20/2013) [-]
Wibbily Wobbily
#56 to #55 - rudianos (05/20/2013) [-]
they know a time lord!
User avatar #135 to #56 - ajperry (05/20/2013) [-]
And why would he do that to them when they have their own lives.
#57 - paradoxpoetic (05/20/2013) [-]
Neither of these are true. Liz10 comes from a line of royalty, and is only queen of starship UK. And of course tubs over there would have heard about the cybermen, it had been a threat for a very, very long time until they eliminated the galaxy they were located in.

People digging too hard for this **** really start to ruin the show.
#112 to #57 - Rascal (05/20/2013) [-]
It's more a fan theory for headcannons and whatnot, but people do take it to an extreme sometimes..
#29 - speedyonbiscuit (05/20/2013) [-]
That little piece of 			****		 needs to die.    
   
Yeah you know which one i'm talking about.
That little piece of **** needs to die.

Yeah you know which one i'm talking about.
#68 - goergesstpierre ONLINE (05/20/2013) [-]
#8 - TehFunnyMan (05/19/2013) [-]
Pleasant fan theories, I'm sure.
Pleasant fan theories, I'm sure.
#14 to #8 - shameonapony (05/19/2013) [-]
It's plainly obvious that he is saying 'I love it', so why is it captioned 'no'...   
   
Why is this happening...
It's plainly obvious that he is saying 'I love it', so why is it captioned 'no'...

Why is this happening...
#30 to #14 - TehFunnyMan (05/20/2013) [-]
It's only obvious to the folks who've seen the episode and know the line. It actually works rather well with both.
It's only obvious to the folks who've seen the episode and know the line. It actually works rather well with both.
#61 to #30 - outdrewfortytwo (05/20/2013) [-]
Here, you can caption this one "Nope"
Here, you can caption this one "Nope"
User avatar #12 - reaperssprint (05/19/2013) [-]
First one isn't the queen of the Universe, only the queen of England. Besides, both of them would be long dead by that point.
#16 to #12 - restfullwicked (05/19/2013) [-]
well in fairness liz X was like 300 years old but even so, you are correct.
User avatar #22 to #16 - reaperssprint (05/19/2013) [-]
Fair enough. I had forgotten about her age, so it is possible for her. Either way I think its trying a little too hard to find some kind of connection.
#23 to #22 - restfullwicked (05/19/2013) [-]
agreed. coincidence it is.
User avatar #20 to #12 - ireallylikepotatoe ONLINE (05/19/2013) [-]
time travel
#111 - ludislavonac ONLINE (05/20/2013) [-]
I have no idea what this is about
#131 to #111 - anomsssssss (05/20/2013) [-]
time n' stuff
User avatar #122 to #111 - Furubatsu (05/20/2013) [-]
The girl Clara Oswin Oswals takes care of once joked that she'd be queen of the universe (see top picture) but there really is no relation between Angie Maitland and Queen Elizabeth X.

And the baby in the doctor's arms is the child of a friend of the doctors (Craig and Sophie Owens) and was introduced in an episode with Cybermen, seeing as how the soldier/actor next to the scene looks a lit like James Cordon (the actor who plays baby Alfie's father) and mentions the cybermen in his childhood, someone made the connection that he might be the same baby.

I find both doubtful or would at least like to see whoever made this explain how both characters would live that long (and how Angie joined the royal family)
#108 - funforlife (05/20/2013) [-]
The thing that pisses me off is that little bitch that Clara babysits. In "Nightmare In Silver" they traveled to another planet and that bitch was like "I'm bored". Like seriously, go shut the **** up.
User avatar #114 to #108 - lordtriggs (05/20/2013) [-]
and they travelled over 100'000 years into the future
User avatar #69 - kakkakrabbypatty (05/20/2013) [-]
SPOILERS





In The Name of The Doctor, was that them introducing the 12th doctor, or some parallel version of the doctor who's all ****** up.
#89 to #69 - retxab (05/20/2013) [-]
he is the valeyard, basically all of the possible evil that is within the doctor in a living form
User avatar #103 to #89 - theexo ONLINE (05/20/2013) [-]
no he's not the valeyard, no matter how much we want him to be. he's a secret incarnation of the doctor between the 8th and 9th
#104 to #103 - retxab (05/20/2013) [-]
we will agree to disagree, for that is how the interwebs works my good man/ woman/ super intelligent goat.

User avatar #105 to #104 - theexo ONLINE (05/20/2013) [-]
haha ok
User avatar #100 to #69 - nexcell (05/20/2013) [-]
everyone in this thread is wrong, its the 9th doctor, the one who started the new series, he took over the other actor who didnt want to be involved anymore after the first season as the 9th doctor.
User avatar #102 to #100 - theexo ONLINE (05/20/2013) [-]
no your wrong, he is the forgotten doctor. He is the one that fought in the time war in between what we know as the 8th and 9th incarnation. He is technically the 9th incarnation of The Doctor which makes Christophers doctor the 10th Tennants the 11th and smiths the 12th. not even lying go look it up
#71 to #69 - slowlearndurr (05/20/2013) [-]
That's not going to be the new doctor.   
   
The person we saw was the Doctor before he became the doctor. the way he was born essentially, his original form.
That's not going to be the new doctor.

The person we saw was the Doctor before he became the doctor. the way he was born essentially, his original form.
User avatar #73 to #71 - slowlearndurr (05/20/2013) [-]
also, Matt Smith was comfirmed for the next season
User avatar #93 to #73 - Lambda (05/20/2013) [-]
I'd guess (hope) that the next season would jump back and forth between the Time War and the "present", with matt smith.
User avatar #99 to #71 - kailybailybo (05/20/2013) [-]
From what I've heard, it's not his original form. It's one tucked in right between eight and nine.

Just not working under "The Doctor" because he's ashamed of his past.

(Not trying to school you, you obviously know your stuff for the most part)
User avatar #83 to #69 - adunsaveme (05/20/2013) [-]
I read some **** somewhere that says he's the actual 9th incarnation and Tennant and Smith are the 11th and 12th or something like that. **** to do with shame over the time war.
#134 to #83 - ajperry (05/20/2013) [-]
This 			****		 is true.
This **** is true.
User avatar #84 to #83 - taintedangel (05/20/2013) [-]
The theory is that this 'Doctor' ("He's me, I never said he was 'The Doctor.") was a split off when the doctor made his choice to flee with 'The Master' from the time war. Instead of running, this Doctor stayed in the war, and caused many horrific things, since he had the name "The Storm".

Bascially, he's what the doctor could have been, and is, if he stayed in the Time War.
User avatar #74 - effinganon (05/20/2013) [-]
GET OUT OF MY TARDIS.



Lol but seriously, thumb for you, fellow Whovian. =D
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