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***SPOILERS*** Soo Many Questions...

Why, Why Do They Not Tell Us - He Was In Trenzalor!!!

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Fall of the Eleventh? is John Hurt a previous What did River mean,
Fall (death) the 11th Doctor? A future Doctor? before she died that she
Doctor on the Fields of Or the Doctor who (no was still
Where he is pun intended) killed all to Clara? That she is
buried? Daleks and Time Lords? coming back? Clara is
What is the Doctors real Could we be seeing the still reachable (obv)?
name? Whats the name end of Matt Smith' s And so on and so forth,
that John Hurt uses as Doctor and start with So many questions, can' t
the Doctor, whatever he John Hurt' s Doctor? wait to find out - just
does thats so bad? hope they dent mess it up
Not Happy I Don' t know The Doctor' s Name Yet! F*# K - Just Tell Us!!!
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User avatar #18 - Lambda ONLINE (05/19/2013) [+] (1 reply)
I really want to cryogenically freeze myself until November so I don't have to wait to know what happens.
I'm willing to bet that Hurt is the version of the Doctor who ended the Great Time War. The one who wiped out the Daleks at the cost of killing his own people.
User avatar #9 - mruserfj (05/18/2013) [-]
What if his name is Sweetie? River keeps calling him that and it is rather embarrassing, so I'd adopt a fake title too
User avatar #33 - givingtree (05/19/2013) [-]
All good questions, but I think that if they ever 'revealed' the doctor's true name it would be an insult to the series. Some things are better as mysteries.
User avatar #20 - gilliam (05/19/2013) [+] (6 replies)

Here are your answers.

fall of the "eleventh" has never been mentioned, it was simply the fall of the doctor in general, no telling how many generations further.

John Hurt is a previous Doctor, he is doctor 8.5, there has always been talked about but never actually shown what happened at the end of the time war. There will be one or two single episodes with john hurt showing these events.

What was so bad, is that by enclosing both the daleks and the galifreyans inside the time lock he saved the universe but also doomed his entire people to extinsion.

The real name of the doctor wil never ever be known, unless for some reason the viewing ratings drop to levels so low they can't sustain the cost anymore, they would do one last episode revealing it and thereby ending the series for good.

The mental link from river with clara was from the conference earlier, the significance that she was still linked meant that clara was not yet fully wiped from history and somewhere still save-able.

No we won't be seeing the end of matt smith yet, john hurt just sortof squeezes inbetween the show.

And for further and final clarification, the following message was announced by the producers and came from facebook:

"The BBC have officially confirmed that Doctor Who Series 8 has been commisioned, with Matt Smith, Jenna Louise Coleman, & Head Writer Steven Moffat all returning. Filming is scheduled for the end of year Or, Early next year. No word on number of episodes, how many Matt will do as The Doctor, or when it will air. Expect a split series run again for broadcast late 2014, with a possible mid series regeneration in 2014, and Moffat's last run has Head writer too. At the moment, it's looking like a Series 8 with match the format of Series 7, split over 2014/15, with a Christmas Special in between."


I hope this gave enough answers.
User avatar #15 - Keidis (05/18/2013) [+] (3 replies)
My ideas on the whole entire episode, as well as my idea/answers to the questions above.
LONG READ AHEAD, Please read it ALL before making a comment.

1. The Doctor is not a human, his body is a scar(As he mentioned in the episode) So his "Body" was the tear/scar in all of space and time, inside of his TARDIS.

2. The Doctor's real name is probably the name he used when he killed ALL Of his fellow Time Lords, he changed his name to the Doctor because the name was SO horrific. He was labeled as a mass murderer(Remember when Clara erased his history as the Doctor? She probably did it before as well, so other people didn't recognize him as the Slayer of the Galifreyans.) NOW before you ask questions, YES, he WAS the doctor before the Time War, but it's a TIME war, thus, it happened in TIME, the name he went by that killed all of the people on Gallifrey could have been the REAL first doctor. He stole the TARDIS, and as his first few acts IN The TARDIS, he found the Time War, and tried to resolve it without killing everyone.
Another reason I believe he'd change his name to the Doctor after the time war is simple, he states that in "The Beast Below"

"I murder a beautiful, innocent creature as painlessly as I can. And then I find a new name 'cause I won't be The Doctor anymore."

Since the Space whale was the last of it's kind, this would be considered genocide, The doctor commited genocide to the Time Lords.

3. Stated in my previous comment.

4. Matt Smith said he's on for sure throughout season 8, though, his regeneration is probably coming soon. (David had 3 seasons, I imagine 5-8 is Matt's 3.)

5. River was linked to Clara meaning she(Clara) is still alive, as we know, she jumped into the Doctor's scar, and was split into millions of Clara's.

One thing that I MUST know though, is that if Clara is 1 million different echos of the real Clara, then the Echos must continue, because the Echo of the real one, was the one that jumped into the scar. So it's Echo-ception.
#21 to #16 - xxxsonic fanxxx (05/19/2013) [-]
the doctor was still called the doctor before he killed all of his people. unless im misunderstanding what you are saying then that theory doesnt work out very well
User avatar #42 - AbsentMinded (05/19/2013) [+] (4 replies)
John Hurt's Doctor is either inbetween 8 and 9 or before 1.
The Doctor Is killed at Trenzalore and is burried in the Tardis. (we saw his corpse/ lava lamp thing)
User avatar #22 - bannedfartoooften (05/19/2013) [+] (11 replies)
The finale made me so angry I had to lie down and count to ten.
BBC had confirmed David Tennant and Billie Piper to be coming back.
CONFIRMED.
THEY ******* CONFIRMED IT.
STEVEN MOFFAT, YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED.
#36 to #22 - xxxsonic fanxxx (05/19/2013) [-]
You've fundamentally failed to understand the information you read regarding the return of Tennant and Piper.

They WILL be returning, and have been filming for, the 50th anniversary special. This will be on the 23rd of November. Hope that clears that up...
#8 - pjuns ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
Are you telling me the new episode is out yet, and i didnt notice?! TO TBP AT ONCE!
User avatar #7 - topperharly ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
we already know that matt smith will be in series 8 so...... he isnt going to die, but that information is old....
#47 - xxxsonic fanxxx (05/19/2013) [+] (2 replies)
I really did think that the dismissed reincarnation of the doctor was the master (from the 2nd or 3rd series david was the doctor), but it looks like i was wrong...
#46 - Mutador (05/19/2013) [+] (4 replies)
just imagine if the doctors name is revealed... and it's 'Bob'
#45 - simeonc (05/19/2013) [-]
How do we know that the Clara that went into the scar was the original Clara? if she was split into a million pieces the Clara that went in may have been just an echo, saving The Doctors life like all of the other echoes
#43 - laxwarriord (05/19/2013) [-]
These are all really ******* obvious, seriously.
#41 - zzzapped (05/19/2013) [+] (2 replies)
WARNING SPOILERS
The doctor will finally fall at the fields of Tenzalore.
The doctor chose the name the doctor as a promise to himself to be good, save lives and never harm another being who is innocent.
Thus, John Hurt plays the doctor who Issued the time lock on the last Timewar. This locked all the Timelords, a lot of them good, inside the lock. It was a necessary evil to save the rest of the universe. Yet it was the one time the doctor did not follow his oath.
#40 - builderofdoom (05/19/2013) [-]
I don't know if this has any relevance, but I just want it written down
Clara Oswald = 11 letters
Matt Smith is the 11th doctor

heard it here first folks
(this is just incase it turns out to have any relevance)

User avatar #29 - ohhahafunny (05/19/2013) [-]
In order:
1. The eleventh incarnation of the doctor will fall on the fields of Trenzalore, whether or not this means the doctor will be forevermore dead is yet to be seen, i say this due to the fact of john hurt being present. Additionally he will not be buried but rather contained within the main chamber of the TARDIS.
2. They will never tell the doctor's real name as it will take some mystery out of the series, i am sure though that when every idea is used that they may consider telling us. Based upon speculation i say that John Hurt is the Valeyard, an evil doctor that attempted to execute the 6th doctor through trial using a paradox machine. He is the culmination of everything within the doctor that is evil.
3. He is a future doctor as Clara did not see him at all when she went through the Doctor's time stream. It is either this or that John is tennant's clone that has aged considerably, i find this theory to be faulty though for obvious reasons.
4.Matt confirmed that he will return in Season 8.
5. Obviously this means that Clara is alive and still able to be saved.
I hope this helped.
#13 - xxxsonic fanxxx (05/18/2013) [-]
my idea
John Hurt plays the doctor before he became the hero we all know and love, the doctor who fought in the time war and left all the darleks and time lords to die that's why 'current doctor' was saying it was another version of him that isn't The Doctor
#11 - Lambda ONLINE (05/18/2013) [+] (3 replies)
Wait, what... have people SEEN the episode yet? It doesn't come on for another hour where I am.
#10 - taurusman ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
john hurt is the name of the actor of the next actor who will be playing the doctor before eccleston during the time war thus the ninth doctor (wibly wobbly timey wimey) so for the 50th anniversary is time war themed or so i heard i am most likely wrong
#1 - xxxsonic fanxxx (05/18/2013) [+] (1 reply)
River and Clara are still connected through that Lizards telepathic call thing
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