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#13 - djpharaoh (07/14/2012) [-]
The only thing disturbing about this is that you turned down a BJ.

User avatar #18 to #13 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
id call that pretty chivalrous of him. good on you, OP.
User avatar #22 to #18 - kibuza ONLINE (07/14/2012) [-]
You must have a vagina.
User avatar #23 to #22 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
nope. legit male who just happens to have a moral opposition to fellatio.
User avatar #24 to #23 - kibuza ONLINE (07/14/2012) [-]
A... moral opposition to fellatio...
...So you have a vagina?
User avatar #25 to #24 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
no. i just hate the idea of my dick going into a girl's mouth. it's nasty and degrading to her.
User avatar #36 to #25 - djpharaoh (07/14/2012) [-]
have you ever been blown?
User avatar #41 to #36 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
i'll tell you this story but idk if you'll believe me. then again, you're an anonymous name on the internet so i don't really need you to believe me.

2 years ago i was in a friends-with-benefits relationship with a girl who by that time was my ex. and at one point she asked if she could blow me, since apparently she had just learned how to do it and i guess wanted to show off her skills. i told her no, for the same reasons i've given below, and basically we got into a calm, yet awkward back and forth where she kept asking to blow me and i continually refused.

so no, i've never gotten a blowjob. and i take pride in that fact. i have no intention of ever sinking that low.
User avatar #44 to #41 - djpharaoh (07/14/2012) [-]
Ok first off, don't describe it as "sinking that low" because that's your own rating of it. Not to mention, you said you ate a girl out, so you actually DID sink that low, oral sex is oral sex, doesnt matter whos doing it. Just as you are doing it to get her heated, she is doing it to get you off. Guys dont shove their dicks down their girlfriends' throats. The girls do it because they want to make their boyfriends happy. Its called sacrifice for another, its kind of what love is all about. There is nothing wrong with oral sex when the person delivering it wants to make the other happy. Sex in itself is a completely "dirty" act. Every part of it involves dirty organs. Just get a bj, understand what you're missing and DEAL with it.
User avatar #46 to #44 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
with all due respect, no. i described it as "sinking that low" because even if it's out of love, it's still disgusting. no woman actually wants to suck a dick. they shouldn't have to sacrifice their dignity for our pleasure. but i'll go down on her because as men, we're supposed to make sacrifices for women. letting a girl suck your dick is like letting her hold a door open for you, or put her coat down over a puddle so you don't get your shoes wet. no asshole, that's what a man does for a woman, not the other way around.

and no, i will not get my dick sucked, ever. i'm better than that.
User avatar #58 to #46 - djpharaoh (07/14/2012) [-]
You may think you're a sensitive beautiful soul, but really what most girls see is a giant bitch. Newsflash bro, getting a bj doesn't mean the guy isn't chivalrous. The chivalry probably GOT him the Bj, lol. Not to mention, sometimes girls WANT to open the door for the guy or pay for him, etc.. once in a while. It helps to keep the relationship level and equal. You're advocating womens dignity and respect, and yet you're philosophy is as sexist as you can possibly get.

But im not surprised, idk why all these guys, including me, are bothering with you. You obviously know NOTHING about women. You're in a ******* online long distance "relationship" with a girl right now. And you've apparently turned down two blowjobs, and ate out a girl.

I may be an asshole, but girls tend to choose assholes over faggots lol
User avatar #61 to #58 - jokeface (07/15/2012) [-]
girls who choose assholes over nice guys are not the kind of girls i'm attracted to. and having ideals such as mine does not mean i know nothing about women. my girlfriend is intelligent and respectable and she wouldn't be with me if i knew nothing about her.
User avatar #30 to #25 - Churchandtex (07/14/2012) [-]
I actually agree with this guy. It seems degrading.
User avatar #32 to #30 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
thank you sir.
User avatar #28 to #25 - kibuza ONLINE (07/14/2012) [-]
Sorry man, but there is so much estrogen in that sentence I fear you may start bleeding from your genitalia ( still unconfirmed as to which genitalia you have ).
User avatar #31 to #28 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
if estrogen is what it takes to respect women enough to not shove my dick in their face, then sure, i've got plenty of that. but i'm also a dude. check my facebook. the link is on my profile
User avatar #33 to #31 - kibuza ONLINE (07/14/2012) [-]
If she's willing to do it, how is it degrading?
Pardon me for assuming, but you seem like the kind of guy who eats carpet ( if you get my meaning ) how is that any different?
User avatar #34 to #33 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
multiple reasons.

1. dicks are dirty. even if you wash them, they're still dirty. i wouldn't suck my own dick even if i could. the idea disgusts me.

2. when i visualize a woman sucking a man's dick, what i see is a woman kneeling before a man, in a position normally reserved for a servant. women are not the servants of men. they're our equals. they shouldn't be subjected to putting their mouths on parts of us that, again, are dirty, just for our pleasure.

3. sex should be romantic. when i have sex with a girl i want to be able to look her in the eyes, kiss her, etc. and i'm sure as hell not kissing after her mouth has been on my dick.

and, yes, i go down on my girlfriend (or at least, i will. i haven't yet because we're long distance and up to this point our sex has only existed over the phone). and the reason i do that is for the same reason i commended OP: chivalry. it's the gentlemanly thing to do. especially because girls generally take longer to cum than guys, so a lot of foreplay like that is good, whereas her sucking the guy's dick would likely make him cum before he even gets it in her pussy.
#39 to #34 - anonymous (07/14/2012) [-]
a smart and kind human on the internet? WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK?
#26 to #25 - refaim (07/14/2012) [-]
Lol you're totally gay.
User avatar #27 to #26 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
hm. okay bro. i'm gay. how will i ever tell my girlfriend?
User avatar #38 to #27 - djpharaoh (07/14/2012) [-]
not to rustle your jimmies or anything, but dude if you're not gay, you sound pussy whipped out of your ******* mind.
User avatar #40 to #38 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
pussy whipped? you mean like bossed around by a chick? that's weird, because these ideals did not come from women. i came to this conclusion on my own, and had to persistently convince two different girls that this is what i wanted.
User avatar #42 to #40 - djpharaoh (07/14/2012) [-]
you "persistently" convinced two girls not to blow you.... dude...........
User avatar #43 to #42 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
i honestly don't see why this is such a big deal.
User avatar #47 to #43 - SgtObvious (07/14/2012) [-]
You not only refused a bj, but you also defended by saying that you denied it because you feel it is degrading to the women, even though she wants to do it. It's also hypocritical that you would eat a girl out but are morally opposed to have her do the male equivalent to you. It would be alright if maybe you had some germ phobia about a girl's saliva on your dick or something like that, but you just oppose it because of some faux-chivalry that you claim to have.
User avatar #49 to #47 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
oh? faux chivalry is it? tell me, what about my ideals makes them fake?
User avatar #51 to #49 - SgtObvious (07/14/2012) [-]
Because you believe that it's degrading even though the person who's ready to do it wants to and almost nobody else in the world finds it degrading. It's faux-chivalry because it's something you probably subconciously made up to seem more sensitive to appeal to girls.

Before you say "I don't just refuse bj's so girls will like me better," I said "subconciously," which means you didn't do it on purpose, but your mind sorta did it by itself to accomodate for what you actually wanted. Sorry for the explanation if you know what it means but I've met too many people that don't.
User avatar #52 to #51 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
well, i can't speak for my subconscious, but i do know that for a long time my view has been that any girl who claims to want to give blowjobs only does so because her mind has been corrupted by society, and she thinks that sucking dick is what gives her value. and i find that repulsive.

as for your point that i just want girls to like me better, i have to scoff. i have a girlfriend whom i plan to marry. i don't need girls to like me. she loves me, and she's one of the ones i had to argue with about this. being liked is not the issue here.
User avatar #53 to #52 - SgtObvious (07/14/2012) [-]
Like I said, "subconciously." I never said that you thought to yourself one day "hmmm if I tell girls I hate bj's I bet they'll like me more." I just meant that you probably wanted girls to like you more (who doesn't) and your mind adapted to it by creating this reason for girls to find you more sensitive and like you better. Obviously I don't know you in real life, and my knowledge of psychology is fairly limited, but I honestly don't see any other viable explanation for why you would oppose bj's so much. There's a psychological reason for everything that you think and every opinion that you have, and that one seemed the most likely. But I mean hey, maybe it is some sort of germ phobia that your subconcious blocks off as an excuse to seem "better" to people.
User avatar #54 to #53 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
i find it troubling that you're so dead set on finding some way to make me sound like an asshole just because we don't agree on an issue. well, you're right about one thing. i do take some level of pleasure in feeling like i stand out among other guys for my values. but that does not make those values any less legitimate. i had them in place before i began to notice that they drew the attention of women. you want a psychological reason? how about it's just ******* shame. okay? it's as simple as that. just shame, and nothing else.
User avatar #55 to #54 - SgtObvious (07/14/2012) [-]
How does it make you seem like an asshole? What makes you sound like an asshole is that you think that you're slightly better other guys because you don't let girls blow you. If anything, what I said makes you seem like less of an ENORMOUS FAGGOT. I'm telling you this not because I want to insult you, but because that's the first thing that comes to mind when you tell someone "I don't let girls blow me because it's degrading to them." And you don't seem to understand the meaning of "subconciously." Maybe your concious mind didn't realize that girls liked you better if you said no to bj's, but somewhere deep in your brain you knew that girls liked sensitive guys and something like hating bj's would make you seem more sensitive and therefore appeal more to girls. I'm just saying that hating bj's because you respect girls too much is a ******** reason, because you gladly eat girls out. Maybe you have some sort of inferiority complex with girls and don't like it when you are in a (what you consider) a controlling position. You're trying to elevate yourself above other guys in an effort to appeal more to girls. There's no such thing as not being in a controlling position because that's human nature. Each individual considers themselves better than everyone around them, whether they show it or not. Wanting to control others demonstrates your superiority over them, and therefore is a part of human nature. I'm just saying it's possible that your mind, for some reason, is rejecting the conventional way to be superior to create a more complex way to show it, such as getting a lot of girls or having girls think you're better than other guys. Because in the end, a bj is something that feels very good, yet it's something that you don't like. Frankly, it's unrealistic that you refuse bj's just because you don't want the girl to feel unequal.
User avatar #56 to #55 - SgtObvious (07/14/2012) [-]
Controlling other demonstrates your superiority over them*
User avatar #57 to #56 - jokeface (07/14/2012) [-]
i'll cede to your point that i'm misinterpreting your "subconscious argument" because you're right, i can't defend against that. but you also seem to be missing the point that i don't equate pussy-eating to dick-sucking, and therefore i don't find it hypocritical. a man should go down on a woman because A, it's the polite thing to do, again such as holding a door or laying down a coat, and B, because like i said before, she may need to be stimulated more than him in order to reach orgasm while they're having actual sex.

when i have sex with my girlfriend, she needs to cum at least 2 or 3 times before she's satisfied, whereas i, being a guy, only cum once and im done. so i always eat her out till she comes twice and then we have normal sex until we both cum together. there's no reason for her to go down on me.

and i said something untrue before which kind of ****** up the rest of the thread. i don't believe men and women are equal. i believe women are superior. that's why as men we're supposed to carry them on our backs (figuratively speaking).
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