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#1 - gobnick (08/13/2012) [-]
ik, what did that chick-fil-a do to their chicken to make it taste like hate? i hate that taste
User avatar #2 - natedizzie (08/13/2012) [-]
Why do people freak out when people speak opinions different then theirs.
This is ridiculous this would injure innocent people that just like the chicken
User avatar #5 to #2 - gobnick (08/13/2012) [-]
well, to be perfectly truthful, the owner of chick-fil-a not only expressed his opinion, but he helped to pay those who openly oppose gay marriage, institutions which would ban it anywhere they could. if he had just openly opposed gay marriage, there would still be butthurt (pun intended), but it would simply be his opinion, once he supported the ability to make it never allowed, he crossed a line. i'd be perfectly fine with the guy had he only said he didn't like it, instead of trying to wipe it out.
User avatar #6 to #5 - natedizzie (08/13/2012) [-]
But is he discriminating against gays?
User avatar #7 to #6 - gobnick (08/13/2012) [-]
well, contributing money to companies that do is a passive way of discrimination. just like women can be passive-aggressive to the max. his stores will still serve gays or lesbians, but because he loves money more than he cares if gay marriage is banned he won't discriminate directly
#8 to #7 - anon (08/17/2012) [-]
That's not discrimination. Taking a political stance isn't discrimination. Liberals like to claim discrimination and hate every chance they get, but that doesn't make it true. This guy happens to believe that marriage is between a man and a woman and that the government shouldn't legally redefine marriage. Does that mean that homosexual couples can't get married - no. In every state of the union homosexual couples can get married, and nobody can or will do a damn thing about it. So making gay marriage "legal" is totally BS, because it already is. Saying it's illegal is like saying waking up in the morning is illegal. Just because the government doesn't give you a piece of paper saying you did it doesn't mean it's illegal.

There are issues about whether or not the government should make gay marriage and traditional marriage legally the same thing, and whether or not gay marriage (and marriage in general) should be recognized by the government. I don't care if gay marriage is recognized in some way (of if the government stops tracking marriages altogether) though if it is I'd prefer it was done in a way where the law was applied equally to everyone. I think it would be a horrible mistake to legally make gay marriage and traditional marriage defined as the exact same thing though.

If that were made the case, homosexual couples could sue churches to make them hire them as clergy when they completely disagree with the beliefs of that church. In fact their beliefs themselves may become illegal. Kids in school could be forced to learn about gay marriage and homosexual sex despite their parents wishes, and kids who voice a different opinion about gay marriage could be kicked out of school. Unfortunately that's what some extremists push for.
User avatar #9 to #8 - gobnick (08/17/2012) [-]
ummm, gay marriage is illegal in any state other than the ones where they do not care, and while getting married there may be legal, it is in no way recognized by any other state than that one, and even then, it is only considered a "civil union", so yes, i was incorrect in saying "gay marriage", but i wasn't incorrect in what i was saying, civil unions are opposed and not recognized by many states, marriage and civil unions don't need to mean the same thing (in definition) but in terms of justification or recognition, yes, they do need to be. and why would gays go to churches that "have different beliefs than them", first off, being gay is nothing that is absolutely wrong, it's just different, and second, the churches wouldn't allow them in anyway, so why would they try to join at all?
#10 to #9 - anon (08/21/2012) [-]
So you agree that there's nothing stopping a gay couple from getting married anywhere in the US, it just might not be recognized by the government. Most of what I do any given day isn't recognized by the government, but that doesn't mean it's "illegal".

Saying there's nothing "absolutely wrong" about being gay is an opinion. I don't care to argue opinion.

I don't know why gay people would want to go to churches that believe homosexuality is wrong, nor do I understand why they join Christian college clubs, but they do. There's been several cases where openly gay students have joined Christian college clubs, then sought an office in that club. When they're denied an office because the clubs bylaws require a code of conduct they aren't abiding by the gay members complain to the pinkie pieistration and the clubs tend to be shut down. I don't know if they should have any religious or political clubs at colleges, but if our laws made gay marriage and traditional marriage legally the same thing then Churches would have no legal reason for denying a leadership position to an openly gay pastor or priest. You can disagree with their beliefs, but you shouldn't disagree with their right to have those beliefs.
#3 - anon (08/13/2012) [-]
Wait, how is this a bomb threat? 0.o
User avatar #4 to #3 - psydoc (08/13/2012) [-]
These are 3 separate incidences.
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