incest in the bible? no way. not sure if repost, saw it on google... In the Bible Cain killed Abel, so while I get the point OP is making, I don't know why they picked those two as examples. Also, why is it that Christianity seem
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User avatar #8 - drakesblood (06/30/2012) [-]
In the Bible Cain killed Abel, so while I get the point OP is making, I don't know why they picked those two as examples. Also, why is it that Christianity seems to be the only religion that is ridiculed directly on this channel?
User avatar #11 to #8 - u do wat to sheep (06/30/2012) [-]
After Cain Killed abel, they had another son, named Seth, and several other kids, but yes, some incest had top happen
User avatar #12 to #11 - drakesblood (06/30/2012) [-]
Adam and Eve would have have lots of children, which would have had to pair up and have kids of their own on order for us to be here now, going by the bible, so I get what OP is saying about incest. Cain and Abel are among the few mentioned by name because of the lesson we are supposed to learn from Cain's mistakes, but that doesn't mean they were the only children Adam and Eve had. From the diagram it looks like OP thinks that Cain and Abel are the only children Adam and Eve had, and that Cain and Abel somehow had children, even though they were brothers. Which only serves to show that you shouldn't try to ridicule something that you know **** all about...

I am still wondering why it only seems to be Christianity that is made fun of on this site.
User avatar #14 to #12 - coonsquad (06/30/2012) [-]
sorry about that, growing up in a christian house hold I was told that Adam and Eve only had 2 kids, I think the reason why Christianity is the most ridiculed religion on this site because its the most prominent religion world wide and in North America. I know a lot about Sikhism and Hinduism and other world wide religions but most people wouldn't understand the point being put in front of them because their ignorant of them.
User avatar #28 to #14 - thepalmtoptiger (07/01/2012) [-]
Not to mention that historically Christians (not just people claiming to be, but popes and bishops) have oppressed and ordered the genocide of entire groups of people.
User avatar #15 to #14 - drakesblood (07/01/2012) [-]
I suppose your point about Christianity being the most prominent religion in the western world is valid. So you were told that Adam and Eve only had two children, or were you only told about two of them?
User avatar #16 to #15 - coonsquad (07/01/2012) [-]
as my parents would take my brothers and I to sunday school the priest told us they only had 2 kids. also told us we would go to hell for watching jimanji.
User avatar #17 to #16 - drakesblood (07/01/2012) [-]
What Christian denomination are you?
User avatar #20 to #17 - coonsquad (07/01/2012) [-]
well I prefer to my self as a secular humanist now but my parents are protestant. non of my siblings still believe in Christianity as it stands. the bible it self seemed to scripted and made up and simple answers to simple questions weren't met so I came to the conclusion that these people have no idea what they're talking about. Also after the pope announced that the vatican created the idea of hell to intimidate people into being better Christians, it got me thinking, if they can put that in the bible and manipulate millions into believing that what else in there is made up.
User avatar #21 to #20 - drakesblood (07/01/2012) [-]
I consider myself as something between a spiritual and a theistic agnostic, but I was raised Seventh-day Adventist.
User avatar #23 to #21 - coonsquad (07/01/2012) [-]
my older brother is a theist agnostic as well, he believes that something created us and that god could exist but not in the form of a religious deity. there are many theories to explain how we got here, creation, evolution, ancient aliens, an astroid broke off from mars and transported bacteria to earth. When I think of a god I think of an ant farm, where we are the ants and "god" is simply observing his science project.
User avatar #18 to #8 - lordbyronxiv (07/01/2012) [-]
They were brothers and the first children of adam and eve, so they would be paired up on a family tree.
And because Christianity is the most dominant religion in the world, and several peoples have been oppressed under Christian flags, and thus has the worst "rep."
User avatar #19 to #18 - drakesblood (07/01/2012) [-]
I don't know if Cain and Abel were the first, I'm not doubting you, it's just been a while for me so I don't know if it says they were the first. Anyway, what I am getting to is that I am sure they aren't the only children of Adam and Eve in the Bible. Which is what the person who made the image must have thought, so of course it would seem stupid.
And I meant why is Christianity ridiculed on this site specifically. I'm not sure if forcing a 12y/o to go to church would count as oppression.
#87 - fallenfromtheline (07/01/2012) [-]
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User avatar #32 - VincentKing ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
It is said Adam and Eve were the first humans, it never said that there weren't any other humans.
User avatar #34 to #32 - noblexfenrir (07/01/2012) [-]
ummm.....it never said there WERE any either.

It says god created man, and then create eden to place the man he had formed so he could keep with dominion. (Emphasis on 'MAN' not 'MEN').
User avatar #35 to #34 - VincentKing ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
true, but hey, cant be 100% accurate. Maybe the whole 'missing link' is fake, and humans are a cross bread between the one prior to missing link, and the 'humans' god created, creating us here today. You never know.
#76 to #35 - thecrazyonedf (07/01/2012) [-]
this man has the exact same theories I have on the subject.
User avatar #37 to #35 - noblexfenrir (07/01/2012) [-]
No, because that makes no sense.
User avatar #38 to #37 - VincentKing ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
so does there being nothingness, then 2 pieces of nothingness colliding and created everything. The everything then started to split and eventually formed life.

Both sound ridiculous, but no living thing will ever know. For all we know, we are living in a game similar to the Sims.
User avatar #39 to #38 - noblexfenrir (07/01/2012) [-]
What says that 2 pieces of nothingness collides and created everything?

You mean the big bang? Big bang explained the formation of the universe not the creation of it. There is no accredited theory for the creation of everything, we just don't know yet. Anyone claiming to know, without evidence (AKA most monotheistic religions) is delusional and pathetic.
User avatar #40 to #39 - VincentKing ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
as with most of todays 'atheists'. They believe they have the answer too. Still, what ever created the universe shall be known as God to me, no matter what it is. Plus the bible is a bit weird too. Why would God smite everyone who sins, and hate for humans to eat from the tree of knowledge? The devil is known to punish those who sin, and when portrayed, he will only trade someones soul for material wealth only to those who have, or will do something bad. What if God is the evil one, and the Devil is the good one?
User avatar #42 to #40 - tarnac ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
When you say "most of todays 'atheists' i belive that you are referring to the ones that you've seen online. Those, however, are mostly 10-12yearolds who don't know **** about being an atheist and just use it as an exuse to bash god. So don't go and lable all (or, as many say "most of") atheist as ignorant ***** just because some of them are ignorant pricks.
User avatar #43 to #42 - VincentKing ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
Trust me, where I live 99% of people say they are atheists, and they don't even know the true reason of it all. Also, believe in God and you are right, HEAVEN! If not, then theres nothingness. If atheism is right, then its nothingness after death, if not, then its hell.
User avatar #45 to #43 - noblexfenrir (07/01/2012) [-]
You did not seriously just use pascals wager is a serious way....yeah it would make sense if it was One religion vs. No religion. But it's actually thousands of religions (Each of which has hundreds or thousands of different sects saying the others are wrong) vs. No religion.

This is ridiculous to actually take seriously lol.

and true reason of it all?...granted you may not agree with them as atheists but there is no 'true reason', it's just disbelief with the evidence provided.
User avatar #46 to #45 - VincentKing ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
Sorry, for the main religions that are over here, its heaven and hell. Who knows, maybe heaven is just a state of mind, where before you die, your brain releases a chemical to allow you to see a wonderful place, one that will let you be happy forever. As you die, you just relive the last thing you saw, so it being heaven, heaven being what the person believes to be the afterlife.
User avatar #48 to #46 - noblexfenrir (07/01/2012) [-]
Sigh, once your brain stops, your consciousness is gone. You die. That is it.

I get the wanting for something after but for people to delude themselves into religion or science pseudo-religions that use science to prove some things, then take giant leaps to assert an afterlife.

Do we know with absolute certainty? No, but just because we don't know doesn't mean we are to accept absurdity as true or even possible.
User avatar #50 to #48 - VincentKing ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
Some say your brain stops, and thats it, others believe in spirits. I believe in spirits/ghosts as the house I am in is in face haunted. You may say that I'm making it up, but hey, if you lived here, you'd agree.
User avatar #51 to #50 - noblexfenrir (07/01/2012) [-]
Prove to me it's haunted. There shouldn't be a belief or faith factor when the evidence is obviously there to prove it to you. Unless you are predisposed to believing it's haunted which would mean you are going to accept much less evidence then I would for that conclusion.

and yes, when your brain stops that's it. Your 'spirit' is your consciousness, your brain processing information and experiences, reactions, etc etc etc.
User avatar #53 to #51 - VincentKing ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
For starters, everything that uses speakers in the house will have them all turn up at random times, and on specific songs. You may say faulty wiring BUT for it to happen on ipods and phones is not right. In the loungeroom we have my great uncles cabinet which has a mirror. My brother is a realestate agent and was testing a new program that they got to basically have a virtual tour through a home, and in the picture of the cabinet, it had the shadow of my great uncles head in the mirror. You may say it was my brothers, but it had no camera in front of the face, and no one else was in the room. When my niece was little, she would randomly look at someone at the door. One night when this was happening, she yelled 'Go Away' and a few doors in the house slammed. I saw a strange figure moving around outside, and noticed it stopped at a spot on the fence. I told my mum and we noticed that one of her Angels were missing from the fence. On my grandmothers birthday, my mum burned a candle for her (as she always does) and a pile of wax dripped onto the silk it was sitting on. That night, my mum removed the pile of wax, and in the middle of it, there was a small love heart now stained into the silk. The night when my grandmother died, my brother said he saw her in his room the night she died, and I remember him talking to someone in the room but ignored it, the conversation ended with him saying goodbye to her, not as if she left the room, but that was his goodbye to her from life.

I would post more but being it is 3AM and the fact that writing it all up does give me an eerie feeling makes me just want to go to bed.
User avatar #75 to #50 - whaleking (07/01/2012) [-]
they are demons
User avatar #110 to #75 - VincentKing ONLINE (07/02/2012) [-]
I doubt that some of my families loved ones would become demons. Now if I was talking about the bowling alley, then sure, theres a demon there. Long story short, my eldest brother was closing it up for the night. The power went out, and some dark thing was running through the back hallway. The only other person there was outside trying to fix the power.
#82 to #43 - thecrazyonedf (07/01/2012) [-]
this is where I slightly disagree with you. while you have the basic idea down, you have to think about this.

christian is wrong: you spent every sunday doing something that counts for nothing in the one shot at life you were given. you took persecution thinking you would be rewarded, but got absolutely nothing.

atheist is right: you spent your sundays getting extra rest and hanging out with friends or doing other important things. you never had to worry about "sinning" and got to have sex before your married.
User avatar #111 to #82 - VincentKing ONLINE (07/02/2012) [-]
The thought of not sinning is basically the same as not breaking the law. You see that there are rules, and you want to follow them, unless you want to end up in hell/jail. By going to church every Sunday, you are giving yourself, and others faith. Without it, a lot of people wouldn't really be here today, just like my aunt and her 2 children. When she was younger, she was in a horrible car crash (she was a passenger) and was told that there is a high chance she will die. Luckily enough, she pulled through. Now you may say this is cause of the doctors, which is true, but her spine had several fractures in it, and she was told she would never be able to control the lower half of her body again. That night, everyone said a prayer for her, and the next day, she had some feeling back.

Maybe God didn't heal her, but if she didn't believe that she would get better, then she may not have. The world needs religion to keep both order, and humanity with us.
User avatar #47 to #43 - tarnac ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
We atheists don't "belive" that there's anything after death because we don't know anything about it yet, we lack the evidence of it. Being an atheist is alot like being a judge (not really), you sit at the sideline until you've gotten enough evidence to make a conclusion. Until that evidence has been provided we can't say anything about it.
User avatar #49 to #47 - VincentKing ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
Wouldn't that make you the Jury? For the large cases the Jury decides, but everyone has to agree on it to make it so. Actually, that is a good point, unless everyone says there is or isn't an afterlife, we will never have an actual thing to have.
User avatar #74 to #40 - whaleking (07/01/2012) [-]
on this i just want to say hell isnt real its called Gehenna and it is a kinda nothingness look up Ecclesiastes 9: 1-18 it says the dead are conscious of nothing at all.
User avatar #36 to #34 - noblexfenrir (07/01/2012) [-]
And before it's mentioned, the bible uses the word 'man' in the sense of singular. (The man he had created....and later talks about how the man should not be without a partner. So no he doesn't use it in the sense of "man" as in a whole race.)
User avatar #26 - thatawesomekid ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
They had other kids.

Now that we've settled on this stupid post, how about some tea?
User avatar #55 - blanery (07/01/2012) [-]
Adam and Eve were not the only humans around at the time, outside Eden there were wandering nomad groups. Adam and Eve were the only religious humans at the time.
User avatar #29 - deathlordgusta (07/01/2012) [-]
their children went to a nearby village to each find a wife.

**** logic.
User avatar #54 - addictakilla (07/01/2012) [-]
mfw atheists argue about incest in religion, even though this is the book of Genesis, and anti-incest wasn't established until Leviticus.
User avatar #69 - whaleking (07/01/2012) [-]
cain and able were not their only children it says they had sons and daughters.
User avatar #71 to #69 - justsomeunitedguy (07/01/2012) [-]
doesn't matter how many they have, they're all related.
User avatar #73 to #71 - whaleking (07/01/2012) [-]
true. i dont think it really matters if you read the bible there are a lot of things we cant explain but !!!!almighty!!!! god means that god can do anything. also so i dont get red thumbed this is an opinion
User avatar #81 to #73 - demandsgayversion (07/01/2012) [-]
Isn't that kind of a cop-out though? "Oh, that doesn't make sense? Oh well, god can do anything."
User avatar #108 to #81 - whaleking (07/02/2012) [-]
kinda but its not like we know everything. i mean there isnt a way to know so we kinda have to believe he could so it
#72 to #71 - anon (07/01/2012) [-]
That's true for every belief (and lack thereof), really.

Darwinism included.
#80 to #72 - anon (07/01/2012) [-]
There were humans outside of Eden. Just because the bible omits something doesn't automatically mean it doesn't exist. It was intended to be used as a spiritual guideline, not an explanation of every physical/historical moment from the beginning of time.
User avatar #109 to #80 - whaleking (07/02/2012) [-]
the bible has many historical correctness and how do you know there were other people on earth?
#113 - joecotter (07/03/2012) [-]
i dont know if someone has already put this, because there is a lot of **** already written on this post, but cain and abel arent the only two children of adam and eve in the bible.
User avatar #114 to #113 - ebonywyvern (07/06/2012) [-]
After a while, after Abel died, they had Seth. But if Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel, and Abel was killed by Cain, where did Cain's wife come from?
#116 to #114 - joecotter (07/06/2012) [-]
theres a line that says something along the lines of "Adam and Eve had many children" sorry i cant be more specific but ive currently between bibles
User avatar #117 to #116 - ebonywyvern (07/06/2012) [-]
In chapter 5, maybe. But that was after Cain found his wife.
#118 to #117 - joecotter (07/06/2012) [-]
ill be honest, i probably dont know enough about this subject to argue this. maybe he married a cat
User avatar #119 to #118 - ebonywyvern (07/06/2012) [-]
I know I would. Cats are pretty ******* awesome.
#120 to #119 - joecotter (07/06/2012) [-]
and they make your dick look huge
User avatar #121 to #120 - ebonywyvern (07/06/2012) [-]
Exactly!
#123 to #122 - ebonywyvern (07/06/2012) [-]
XD cats FTW
XD cats FTW
#124 to #123 - joecotter (07/06/2012) [-]
kitty plays, kitty needs sleep
kitty plays, kitty needs sleep
#58 - ipizz (07/01/2012) [-]
its funny coz OP didnt read the bible. Adam have more than 3 children, males and females.
User avatar #59 to #58 - coonsquad (07/01/2012) [-]
well, if you took the time to read the comments you would of noticed how I explained growing up in a Christian household, my brothers and I were taught by the church Adam and Eve had two sons Cain and Able. Nowhere in the bible they gave us at the time did it say they had more children nor did they tell us they had more children. if one church says they had more children and one says they didn't than you can see how religion can be confusing and contradicting.
User avatar #60 to #59 - coonsquad (07/01/2012) [-]
Abel* autocorrect.
#63 to #60 - ipizz (07/01/2012) [-]
i feel sorry to hear that bro. so called christian church failed to teach what really is in the bible. also no time to read comments; here for funny pics. im assuming you already now but for those who dont its on Genesis 5:4. peace
#68 to #63 - twilightdusk ONLINE (07/01/2012) [-]
It's funny because that "so called" Christian church will still count for statistics you can point to to show how big Christianity is.
#83 to #68 - ipizz (07/01/2012) [-]
i agree with you. mostly because people tend to believe hear-say than proving things to themselves.
#65 to #63 - anon (07/01/2012) [-]
I love 2 Kings 23:25. It is a real inspiration. The way those she-bears kill 42 young, belligerent little boys. And lets not forget 1 Timothy 2:12, ''I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority or a man. She must be silent.'' This verse reminds us to live by God's word.
#84 to #65 - ipizz (07/01/2012) [-]
i dont see how this is relevant to Cain and Abel having an orgy
User avatar #70 to #65 - whaleking (07/01/2012) [-]
i love it when people just say stuff and dont look into why that happened like how the teaching is about wemon being "pastors" or teachers of the word of god or how those bears killed those children because they were being disrespectful to god...
#30 - anon (07/01/2012) [-]
******* hell. You people are overanalysing this **** . That 'bible' book was never meant to be taken seriously...
#112 to #30 - joecotter (07/03/2012) [-]
bad atheist. bad
bad atheist. bad
#125 - sippay (07/07/2012) [-]
Christians believe that all of the humans in this world were inbred from 2 people who lived 10 000 years ago. this is not even possible and is demonstrably false, because of "inbreeding depression" all humans would become extinct.

And they deny evolution. evolution explains how the diversity of life on earth, it also explains how humans came, how all the races evolved. Africans have evolved their skin color as an adaptation to their environment, how Caucasians, evolved in ice ages, and how all other races evolved.
User avatar #127 to #125 - coonsquad (07/08/2012) [-]
yet they change and reword what is right there in the bible to make themselves look less stupid.
#85 - AnonymousDonor (07/01/2012) [-]
umm isnt it obvious? lets whip out some evolution logic
adam and eve were the first "humans" yes? all that means is that they were the first species of the DNA sequence known as homo sapiens thus meaning that their DNA is "100% human"
such humans came about by the evolutionary dirty-dancing of beings that were 99.99999999% humans until it resulted in a mutation creating a 100% human creature
even though Cain and Abel were the only members of the 2nd generation of 100% humans, they were still genetically similar enough to the human ancestors to reproduce with them without any gay incest necessary

the moar you know
#106 to #85 - AnonymousDonor (07/01/2012) [-]
tries to be helpful

uses logic to answer the question

no counter-arguments
no reasons why
just thumbed down
#86 to #85 - AnonymousDonor (07/01/2012) [-]
and if you dont buy that, then id like to see if anyone else cain tell me how they were abel to reproduce
#13 - jeppnp (06/30/2012) [-]
People seem to miss the point, in the bible it dosen't claim that god created the only human, just the "right" human, the christian people.


so there is more people than adam and eve, they just aren't christian.

btw, I am an ateist
User avatar #24 to #13 - noblexfenrir (07/01/2012) [-]
God created more people other than adam and eve, assuming they would be in the garden as well, and they aren't christian?

If you are an atheist then you have a horrible understanding of the bible. In the beginning there was Adam and lilith, then eve, then they continued the chain.
User avatar #22 to #13 - therealmethlab (07/01/2012) [-]
Not all Atheist are smart.

-An Atheist
User avatar #52 to #22 - gildemoono (07/01/2012) [-]
This is why you should stop judging all of us based on those dumbasses like the WBC

-A Christian
#126 - sippay (07/07/2012) [-]
**sippay rolled user lapfoxtrax ** I summon you to stop this 			*********
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#103 - sacrilegious (07/01/2012) [-]
Just a thought here, what if God designed Adam and Even without any sort of genetic disorder that could be passed on?
Or there was only one recessive allele in the two of them, so that no matter what happened, their child could only have one recessive gene. As for dominant disorders, it would make sense that God wouldn't give them any.

(not a christfag, if you couldn't tell by my username)
User avatar #101 - cosmiczoom (07/01/2012) [-]
**** ******* you gotta lose some to win some,
Adam and Eve had prob 5 kids two boys(Cain and Abel) and 3 girls. After Abel was murdered, god sent Cain away to another part of earth, which is where he took one of his sisters with him -_- yep.. incest
User avatar #115 to #101 - ebonywyvern (07/06/2012) [-]
When did they have daughters?
User avatar #88 - riversjack (07/01/2012) [-]
In the bible, Adam and Eve were the FIRST people on the Earth. NOT THE ONLY. THE FIRST.
User avatar #89 to #88 - XxSHiFtxX (07/01/2012) [-]
So then where'd the other people come from?
User avatar #92 to #89 - phunkyzilla (07/01/2012) [-]
They appeared or some **** I dunno.
User avatar #107 to #92 - domethius (07/02/2012) [-]
And here we have the summary of christian logic.
User avatar #93 to #89 - riversjack (07/01/2012) [-]
Sorry I misread that at first. The other people were also created by God.
User avatar #94 to #93 - XxSHiFtxX (07/01/2012) [-]
Where in the bible does it say that?
User avatar #96 to #94 - generaljosh (07/01/2012) [-]
IDK where it says it, but basically when they walk out of the garden o' eden they find a village of people
User avatar #98 to #96 - XxSHiFtxX (07/01/2012) [-]
I don't recall reading that. What book in the bible does it say that?
User avatar #99 to #98 - generaljosh (07/01/2012) [-]
I never read the bible, but a quick google reveals that I'm probably wrong.
User avatar #100 to #99 - XxSHiFtxX (07/01/2012) [-]
Haha. I was going to say. I read the bible and it never says anything about a village of people outside of Eden.
User avatar #95 to #94 - riversjack (07/01/2012) [-]
To be honest, I am not sure. Being a quizical child, I always asked that question about how did humanity move on with only one family? My parents always rold me that there was a town in another region filled with other people. I can do some reaserch if you really want to know.
User avatar #102 to #95 - theotherdudec (07/01/2012) [-]
Your parents probably told you that because they didn't want to freak you out, but according to the bible, Adam and Eve had 3 sons. Cain, Abel, and Seth. However, the bible rarely talks about daughters that people had. Because they consider the man to be the one who carried on the family line back then. Most likely, Adam and Eve did have more then just 3 children, they probably had a few daughters as well. And yes. There was incest. But what other choice did they have? Also, i doubt that it was that big of a deal when there are less then a dozen people on Earth. Yes, I am Christian. This is my actual thinking here. Hope it helped clear things up.
User avatar #104 to #102 - riversjack (07/01/2012) [-]
Now that you say that, I think that makes much more sence. I appreciate you taking the time to tell me that.
User avatar #97 to #95 - XxSHiFtxX (07/01/2012) [-]
Nah don't trouble yourself. I don't think the others were created by god, because I don't think god is real. I was just wondering if you could back up your statement. Although, I can't disprove your statement either. :)

User avatar #105 to #97 - riversjack (07/01/2012) [-]
Thank you for being tolerant. And if you havn't read thhotherdudec's comment yet, read it. It makes much more scence than mine.
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#78 - Woodlock (07/01/2012) [-]
They had other children, and if i understand genetics at all, the gene pool was small enough so there weren't really any **** ups.

but on incest:
hey, old testament what are ya gonna do?
User avatar #77 - ningyoaijin (07/01/2012) [-]
Are people really too naïve to understand that incest exists?
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