Religion does no harm. stop hating, uguyz, your just a bunch of autistic neckbeards in fedoras, religion doesn't hurt anybody!. This is Nicholas Capella, he Thi Religion does no harm stop hating uguyz your just a bunch of autistic neckbeards in fedoras religion doesn't hurt anybody! This is Nicholas Capella he Thi
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Religion does no harm. stop hating, uguyz, your just a bunch of autistic neckbeards in fedoras, religion doesn't hurt anybody!. This is Nicholas Capella, he Thi

stop hating, uguyz, your just a bunch of autistic neckbeards in fedoras, religion doesn't hurt anybody!

This is Nicholas Capella, he This is Father Murphy. He
was removed by the Catholic raped hundreds of young boys
Church from volunteering at a school for the deaf where he
in his Parish, where he had served for 24 years. The Catholic
served over a decade, for Church knew of his actions for
marrying his same sex partner. decades. He died a priest and was
buried on Church grounds.
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#1 - KingOfTheWorld
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(07/05/2013) [-]
Let the ********* begin
#164 to #1 - missrainbowdash
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(07/06/2013) [-]
what if like, there is no god
#177 to #164 - princeofbrokensoul
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(07/06/2013) [-]
shut up fizz
#41 - AreyouSerious
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(07/06/2013) [-]
they should do what Henry VIII did.

You can't do that, it's against the Catholic Church and Christ.

"lol fuk u, imma make my own church!
#156 to #41 - jajathezombie
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(07/06/2013) [-]
I don't get why people don't make a gay church and force gay marriage through with it. It's not even that far of a stretch - some cultures in the past worshiped gay and trans people.
#129 to #41 - anon
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(07/06/2013) [-]
It does make me giggle, "Same sex marriage is an alteration of the definition of marriage, our church (which came into being simply because a guy wanted to get a divorce) demands that marriage is not re-defined"
#131 to #129 - listerthepessimist
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(07/06/2013) [-]
and i forgot to sign in

I posted as anon

I am ashamed
#52 to #41 - solidderking
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(07/06/2013) [-]
but with blackjack and hookers
#97 to #52 - tehbanana
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(07/06/2013) [-]
and Headsmen
#105 to #52 - fuckthehabs
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(07/06/2013) [-]
You know what? Forget the church
#172 to #105 - solidderking
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(07/06/2013) [-]
why? the church makes lots of money so that you can have golden hookers
#69 to #52 - redstag
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#3 - ZeGerman ONLINE
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(07/05/2013) [-]
This is Nicholas Kim Coppola.
#89 - ineedthistothumb
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(07/06/2013) [-]
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This is Mother Teresa. Claiming she had a vision from the Christian God in her late teens, she spend her entire life giving to the poor and literally living among them to help them in any way possible. When she won the Nobel Peace Prize, she donated the prize money to charity. She was a devout Catholic and a nun.
#116 to #89 - YllekNayr
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Yeah, no. Mother Teresa delighted in the suffering of others, doing nothing to help them with their ailments, rather watching them die instead, then posthumously given credit for supposed miracles she never actually performed.
#146 to #116 - mayormilkman
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Let me ask you this: What's the difference between a hospice and a hospital?
#222 to #146 - YllekNayr
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(07/08/2013) [-]
Well, I'm not exactly sure what this has to do with Mother Theresa, but a hospice is a place to alleviate emotional or spiritual worries, as well as often providing a setting for the end of a person's life. To care for a dying individual. A hospital is a medical facility where the priority is to treat whatever is harming the patient, and also provide some care to their physical or emotional suffering. Why?
#225 to #222 - mayormilkman
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(07/08/2013) [-]
She worked with hospices, not hospitals.
#226 to #225 - YllekNayr
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(07/08/2013) [-]
Ok. And? She didn't care for her patients' needs in a hospice sense, either. She allowed them to suffer in squalid conditions, not offering medical, emotional, or physical comfort.
#227 to #226 - mayormilkman
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(07/08/2013) [-]
I really doubt she was a sociopath, or as bad as Hitchens and other atheists describe her as.
#228 to #227 - YllekNayr
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(07/08/2013) [-]
Too bad it's not as if it's only Hitchens and atheists that describe her that way.

(As if we'd benefit in any manner by making that kind of stuff up)

Here you go.
whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2013/03/05/a-new-expose-on-mother-teresa-shows-that-she-and-the-vatican-were-even-worse-than-we-thought/

also
www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8Z7AI1J9Z0

and the book in question if you'd like to read it
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#229 to #228 - YllekNayr
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(07/08/2013) [-]
Also, I never said sociopath. She believed suffering was holy. She wasn't numb to it like a sociopath. She understood it.
#230 to #228 - mayormilkman
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(07/08/2013) [-]
>two definite antitheist sources
lul

Her purpose was to resolve the lives of those dying by affirming their faith in God. I guess that means you're a terrible person, though.
#231 to #230 - YllekNayr
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(07/08/2013) [-]
You didn't read it at all, did you?

It's peer reviewed. That means it's NOT just some thing written by some atheist.
#232 to #231 - mayormilkman
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(07/08/2013) [-]
It's not like they can't be biased, but whatever.

Anyway, she may have not been a perfect person, but she was not evil or anything. I can see how such people can be mad at her, anyway.
#233 to #232 - YllekNayr
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(07/08/2013) [-]
That's entirely true. But it's not as if them being anti-theistic automatically means they can't be unbiased.

It's not a matter of her "not being a perfect person"
If you'll actually look at any of the links I said, the allegations are not of her just not being saintly, but of her being absolutely evil. That's how people could be mad.....at the idea of her. Her as a person is dead and gone, but her as an idea is still held as a moral, excellent person.

In either case, her goodness is contested at best, and entirely discredited at worst. Before you comment any more, either go look at some of the stuff, or just flat out tell me you're not going to so I can quit wasting my time.
#234 to #233 - mayormilkman
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(07/08/2013) [-]
I'd rather not even bother at this point. I don't know enough about her, but I still have some doubts.
#235 to #234 - YllekNayr
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(07/09/2013) [-]
Well, if you'd like to get more informed, I have provided the links.

P.S. In Pen and Teller's video, there's actual footage of her and the inside of her main hospice. You think they can stick bias in her own words?
#120 to #116 - miracles
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Comment Picture
#122 to #120 - YllekNayr
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(07/06/2013) [-]
What's with the Luffy?
#126 to #122 - miracles
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#127 to #126 - YllekNayr
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Well ok then.
#200 to #89 - newall
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(07/06/2013) [-]
and then she spend the last 50 years of her life in bed, moaning.

Literally, look it up.
#114 to #89 - anon
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(07/06/2013) [-]
YEAH ALBANIA!
#161 to #114 - toosexyforyou
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(07/06/2013) [-]
What does Mother Teresa have to do with Albania?
#165 to #89 - anon
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(07/06/2013) [-]
sorry to crush your dreams, but please, watch 'Penn & Teller ******** - Holier than Thou' episode on you tube.
#246 to #89 - thereoncewasaman
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(07/30/2013) [-]
Actually after she died her notebook or journal thing was found and she actually confessed in there to not believing or being skeptical of the teaching of the church. All those years pretending to be catholic and she turned out not to be religious.
#180 to #110 - thephantur
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Oh dear... oh dear...

I have to say I am highly disappointed. :/
#90 to #89 - ineedthistothumb
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(07/06/2013) [-]
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This is Mahatma Gandhi. He was a devout Hindu who not only led the peaceful, yet effective movement to bring India to independence, but also was one of the most most charitable and giving men of his time, being an inspiration to anybody who knew of him, regardless of their religion.
#91 to #90 - ineedthistothumb
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(07/06/2013) [-]
So the title is correct. Religion does no harm, no more than different political parties do. It's the people that follow the religion (and political parties) that cause the harm.
#197 to #91 - funmanigro
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(07/06/2013) [-]
no not really, its just assholes that do harm.
#239 to #90 - anon
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(07/11/2013) [-]
Gandhi also beat his wife and slept nude with teenage girls to "test his restraint."
#117 to #90 - YllekNayr
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Mahatma Gandhi was a ******* racist.
#174 to #117 - alltimetens
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Yet you spend your time browsing a website that degrades black people by calling them *******.
#211 to #174 - YllekNayr
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(07/06/2013) [-]
..........and? What, so I'm a racist because other people on a website I look at are racist?

Also, it's one thing to be some yahoo on the internet saying racist things, and another to be hailed as a model human being.
#171 to #117 - darrensankari ONLINE
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Did he openly preach that Africans were lesser than other races?
#237 to #171 - YllekNayr
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(07/11/2013) [-]
Yes. Someone else in this thread mentioned an episode of Penn and Teller's ******** series, and I provided the link.

Granted, Ghandi was definitely very wise and philosophical, but not nearly as moral and perfect as people would like to think. He wasn't an awful person, but he WAS very racist.
#24 - delphine
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Religion doesn't do harm. Jesus said to feed the poor, care for the sick, love people and love God. It's not his fault human beings can be jerks, and being a jerk knows no creed, same as being a good person knows no creed.
#25 to #24 - teranin [OP] ONLINE
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Jesus also literally told people to cut out their own eyes if they are aroused when married. His words, not mine, sermon on the mount.
#26 to #25 - delphine
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Jesus taught using parables. It most likely means "if there is a temptation you struggle with, remove the temptation" not "actually gouge your eye out". And people say Christians take the bible too literally...
#158 to #26 - facadeon
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(07/06/2013) [-]
It isn't a parable when people actually did this in the past, because that's how their society was back then...
Also, the bible was created in those times, therefore it was influenced by this society when stoning people to death and eye gouging was the norm.
#29 to #26 - noblexfenrir
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(07/06/2013) [-]
So why is anything Jesus said about god or his divinity a parable and a representation for something else?
#32 to #29 - delphine
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Sometimes a point is most easily understood by telling a story. Like Aesop's fables, they might not be true stories but it leads the audience to discover the moral lesson for themselves.
#34 to #32 - noblexfenrir
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Alright, again I ask then why isn't anything about god or Jesus' divinity a moral lesson? Why are these actual realities but other things told in a concrete manner are considered parables?

Please avoid it just being the way you interpret it, I want an actual reason please.
#36 to #34 - delphine
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(07/06/2013) [-]
I thought you were asking why someone would teach using parables instead of just saying things outright. I'm having a hard time trying to decipher what you are asking.
#37 to #36 - noblexfenrir
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(07/06/2013) [-]
If certain things are moral lessons through parable (Even though Jesus never says it is a parable, and instead says it in a concrete manner), then why are god and the divinity of jesus not also representations for either moral lessons or underlying meaning?

I really don't know any other way to type it.
#59 to #37 - largilloquent
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(07/06/2013) [-]
before saying that anything in the bible is "concrete". understand that the bible was written by man. also the rest of what you said is gibberish, not trying to be mean, but i understood none of it. Also goodnight, work tomorrow and all that.

have a nice day
#163 to #59 - facadeon
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(07/06/2013) [-]
It isn't gibberish.
He's saying that "why are the moral lessons in the bible considered metaphorical, excluding the concept of God and Jesus?"
He already knows, from what I have gained from his contention, that the bible is man made. He is just arguing the validity of the morality and holiness surrounding the bible.
#219 to #163 - facadeon
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(07/08/2013) [-]
Yup, red thumb us to curb your butthurtedness.
#209 to #163 - noblexfenrir
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Thank you lol, I thought maybe I was having a seizure and even though I read the words correctly, I was actually just slamming my fists on the keyboard.
#169 to #163 - largilloquent
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(07/06/2013) [-]
thank you sir, i very much understood that. speaking as an agnostic atheist, god and Jesus are the only parts in the bible i consider fact. primarily cause the idea of a hateful god that will punish me for eternity for such trivial and finite crimes... is not something i choose to have faith in. thats my take on reading the bible, feel free to disagree
#204 to #169 - anon
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(07/06/2013) [-]
You make a bold and incorrect assumption about God here that a lot of atheists do. First of all, sin and law in regards to morality is not quantitative. When you say "finite" crimes I'm assuming you believe that just because you did one thing bad you don't deserve an eternity of punishment. That's not how sin and justice works. There aren't points for being sinful, as if you need to somehow equate ones punishment points with ones crime points. There are only consequences in justice and justice for sin is punishable by death. So what then is sin? Sin is a rebellion against God, or humans organizing themselves without or against God. Understand something very clearly. God does not send anyone to hell. There are those who say "God let your will be done" or God says "let your will be done." If you choose to reject God on earth, you're not going to like God very much in heaven. Heaven is a place where God gets his way all the time, all the time.
#210 to #169 - noblexfenrir
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(07/06/2013) [-]
You aren't answering the question though, and it's even stranger that I have to ask it from an agnostic atheist.

Here, I'll make it incredibly easy. Why is god not a metaphor for the unknown? I'm not asking for faith/belief that something is real, I'm asking why such reasoning can be used anywhere else in the bible, but not to god.
#27 to #26 - teranin [OP] ONLINE
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Fair enough, I'll give you the parable assertion, and raise you mass murder fueled by religion across the ages, from the crusades, to the buddhist massacre of christians in Japan, to Sunni vs Shiite conflict, to the Inquisition, to the salem witch trials, on and on over and over across history. I don't even need to do that, though, because the catholic church defends and protects pedophiles, who molest children that are brought before them due to adherence to religion, and that very protection they receive stems from the extra protections society puts in place for religions that no other group receives. Seriously, can you think of any company that could get caught hiding the mass rape of children, and get away with it without losing their whole customer base? The only word you can use to describe harm to that degree is "monsterous".
#30 to #27 - delphine
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(07/06/2013) [-]
that has nothing to do with religion, the laws of most of those religions are usually pretty against all of those things you described. It's when hateful people pervert the religion and use it as a justification to commit atrocities.

On the same token, people don't need religion to commit horrible atrocities either-- Stalin's Great Purge was little different than those acts, the only difference is that he used Communism as his justification instead of a religion. Communism, in the hands of righteous people, is a fantastic idea. But when used by people who are corrupt, bad things happen.

It's the darkness in people's hearts. That's where the harm comes from.
#33 to #30 - teranin [OP] ONLINE
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(07/06/2013) [-]
While I do agree that the evil of some people with power is where the choice was made to do evil, understand this. That evil, in the vast majority of cases where it involves mass slaughter (not all) and where it involves racial or gender discrimination (again, not all) has always been justified to the constituents of the evildoers through the use of religion, and those books actually supported those ideals. The bible says that slavery is OK, it suggests that mass murdering and genocide are A-OK as long as they are to uphold God's commandments... does that not strike you as harmful? Humans can be evil, but when granted the power of a tool for manipulation as dangerous and harmful as religion, evil can do incredible things with very little explanation needed, and can drive mass humans to help with that evil.

For Stalin's "Great Purge" that could never have worked had the people in that country not worshipped Stalin and communism as though they were a religion. As soon as religious level devotion was achieved for Stalin's governance, the oppression and mass murder set in. Read George Orwell's Animal Farm for a more clear understanding of this dynamic.
#35 to #33 - delphine
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(07/06/2013) [-]
What you say does make sense, and really I think we can agree that religious fanaticism is the danger here. There are plenty of religious people all over the world who wouldn't hurt a fly, I'm one of them.

And yes, I know the bible does contain several passages where slavery is condoned... but then I'm one to take what the bible says with a grain of salt. I follow the main tenants (love God, love your neighbor) Some people might say this makes me a bad Christian for picking and choosing what I believe, I say it's using the brain God gave me. But that's a whole other can of worms that I could talk about forever.
#220 to #35 - facadeon
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(07/08/2013) [-]
And yes, I know the bible does contain several passages where slavery is condoned...
#221 to #220 - delphine
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(07/08/2013) [-]
Disclaimer: I do not condone any form of slavery. This is an explanation of how the concept of slavery was dealt with in biblical times.

Specifically, the bible does not outlaw slavery. It states how slaves should be treated. They were to be treated well, and have all their needs cared for, and after a number of years they are to be freed.

Mini history lesson: What many fail to understand is that slavery in biblical times was very different from the slavery that was practiced in the past few centuries in many parts of the world. It was more like indentured servitude. People were not enslaved because of their nationality or the color of their skin. Slavery was more a matter of social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, and even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their masters.

In addition, both the Old and New Testaments condemn the practice of “man-stealing” which is what happened in Africa in the 19th century. Africans were rounded up by slave-hunters, who sold them to slave-traders, who brought them to the New World to work on plantations and farms. This practice is abhorrent to God. In fact, the penalty for such a crime in the Mosaic Law was death: “Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death” (Exodus 21:16).
#236 to #221 - facadeon
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(07/09/2013) [-]
I just indicated you acknowledged that there were verses in the bible containing slavery.
Now, debunking what you have just said, "Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result." Exodus 21:20
This bible verse basically condones mistreatment on slaves. "You can beat them however brutally as you want, just as long as they don't die from it- then you will be punished."
If it doesn't make sense with other things said in the bible, maybe the bible was just broken and contradictory to begin with, and should not be treated as a trustworthy source to reference.
#56 to #33 - outerfiend
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#99 to #27 - TastyBurger
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Are you retarded? Literally, one of the first things delphine said was "human beings can be jerks". Some assholes make religion look terrible because they're assholes. Just like ponyfags make My Little Pony seem terrible and overly devout "my music is better than your's" metalheads make metal seem bad.

Blame the people, people are cunts. Religion didn't do a thing except get misinterpreted and taken in the wrong way.
#48 to #27 - anon
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Never judge a philosophy by its abuse. I think you would find it irrational if one were to say, "Anti-theism is evil because of what Hitler did." You look at the underlying principles, the core, of an ideology and determine whether or not the followers of said ideology are in keeping with the fundamentals of their beliefs. That having been said, if you want to play the numbers game then you ought to know that more bloodshed has come from anti-theism than religion. Friedrich Nietzsche who pronounced the "death" of God said that if God was dead, a mass chaos would break out and there would be more blood shed in the 20th century than any other. He was right on both accounts. Mao, Stalin, Lenin and so many more under the influence and correspondence of the anti-theist world view have killed people than all world views combined.
#153 to #24 - sparkysparkybooman
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(07/06/2013) [-]
"Religion doesn't do harm." ha. OK. Lets take a brief look at it.

Most wars were started by religions. The Crusades.The Inquisition.The 9/11 tragedy.ethic cleansing campaigns.Suppression of women .Suppression of gays. Suppression of blacks.Fatwas.suicide bombings.arranged marriages to minors.human sacrifices.witch burnings.systematic sex with children.
prevention of stem cell reseach."Faith healing".useless circumcisions. prevention of minority rights.
promotion of slavery.
the Jim jones tragedy.
genital mutilation.
religious terrorism.
Catholic sex scandal cover- ups.
Suppression of art and literatureThe KKK
Punishment and suppression of free thinkerscreation of bigotry
exorcisms that result in death of victimSerial killers doing the work of Jesus/God/satan/Allahdiscouragement of critical and rational thoughtabuse of power by religious figures.
cults
Hitler said in Mein Jamph he was "doing the work of God" to get support
The boxer rebellion
Constant battles of Jerusalem and the middle east
Bloodshed in Ireland between Catholics and Protestants.
I can go on and on. Not saying everyone whos religious is mean/stupid or does these things. But religion, is NOT harmless.
#189 to #153 - gunthar
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All this wars and bad things you mentioned would have happened anyway, religion has been used by bad people to manipulate and cover their actions but that doesnt mean religion harms people. People harm people and people are the leaders of the religions. Most religions in the world talk about peace and tolerance (true most of them need to be updated)
#155 to #153 - sparkysparkybooman
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(07/06/2013) [-]
had to mess up the format because FJ is annoying.
#157 to #153 - sparkysparkybooman
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And of course everyone likes to turn a blind eye on all these things and make excuses about how "they aren't doing it" so its totally fine.

Please shower me in red thumbs you Christian nation of ignorants. Im mad bro.
#186 to #157 - vgcollosus ONLINE
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Religion was used as a tool in all of those cases, if it weren't religion it would have been something else, while yes religion seems to have been the tool to power in ALL of those cases, if it weren't religion it would have been other tools. Previously used tools for genocide/discrimination include, wealth, race, and social status. Keep in mind here, I'm not quite saying you're wrong. Religion has ABSOLUTELY the method most used for starting many wars, but it was going to happen, one way or another, religion simply sped up the process.
#192 to #186 - gunthar
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just as i finished writing my comment i saw that you wrote pretty much the same thing.
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#60 - goll ONLINE
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no one can hear you scream
#73 to #60 - anon
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Well...they are ******* deaf after all.
#74 to #73 - goll ONLINE
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#75 to #74 - anon
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Hey you never know on this site, some people are that damn dense.
#77 to #60 - freddyhollensen
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Because he worked in a school for deaf kids, that's funny.
#112 - backlash
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(07/06/2013) [-]
this is Mao Zedong. he is responsible for the deaths of 100 MILLION people and like you he refuted any form of religion. Does this make all atheists Genocidal maniacs? I certainly hope not
#137 to #112 - shadecrenshaw
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(07/06/2013) [-]
While what you said makes sense, but you missed the point of this post completely.
#203 to #112 - anon
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(07/06/2013) [-]
i am an atheist and proud to have stolen candy, when i was 9.
#242 to #112 - masterboll
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(07/25/2013) [-]
yes it does
#182 to #112 - thephantur
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(07/06/2013) [-]
I'm an Atheist and I once pushed someone.

I'm not even sorry, they had it coming.
#141 to #112 - sodapops
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(07/06/2013) [-]
I'm an atheist and I can get quite irate if someone steals my parking spot...
#28 - telmarine
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were you raped by jesus as a kid? because it sure seem like you have a lot of pent up arse anger teranin
#31 to #28 - teranin [OP] ONLINE
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(07/06/2013) [-]
That's a silly assertion, it's not anger, it's distaste for evil and concern over the potential for humanity's elimination before achieving type 1 status as a civilization that motivate my antitheistic posts.
#38 to #31 - I Am Monkey
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Anti-theism is just an excuse to be an asshole and call it something else.
No rational person would think religion would result in "humanity's elimination". What, are churches going to begin producing fissile material to inexplicably start nuking?
#42 to #38 - ilovehitler
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Many antitheists believe that Religion will be the death of the world, not by the churches using the nukes, but by influencing countries to start wars and battles. Just look at the middle east, or the vast amounts of religious wars in history.

While it's very rarely the churches themselves doing anything wrong, those who follow the religion far too devoutly, to the point of extremism, are the ones who do the dirty work.
#54 to #42 - cheezbrgr
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if religion is false then it is simply an extension of humanity, seeing as we must have created it. It is within human nature to kill each other, we always look for a way to feel superior to those around us. even the "open minded" people hold themselves above the religious or the wealthy. It is just another form of raising ourselves above someone else, as is our nature to do so. There will always be hate and strife as long as people have free will and opposing views.
if religion is false then it is simply an extension of humanity, seeing as we must have created it. It is within human nature to kill each other, we always look for a way to feel superior to those around us. even the "open minded" people hold themselves above the religious or the wealthy. It is just another form of raising ourselves above someone else, as is our nature to do so. There will always be hate and strife as long as people have free will and opposing views.
#55 to #54 - ilovehitler
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(07/06/2013) [-]
I never said religion is false.
And, while violence is certainly within our nature, it generally has a motive, and in many cases that motive can be based on religion.
#66 to #54 - shadowvision
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Good people will do good things and bad people will do bad things, but in order to make good people do bad things, religion is required.

And I really wish I could give the person who said this credit, I don't remember.
#207 to #66 - cheezbrgr
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good people don't need religion to do bad things. they simply need an ideal to rally behind. whether it is religious or political. Both world wars were fought on a basis of superiority determined by nationality or race. The cold war was the product of a clash of social and economic structures. for every crusade there was a handful of wars fought for land, wealth or personal reasons. the reason the religious wars failed so miserably for Europe was because they were so busy fighting each other over land and power. The crusades are almost a sideshow when it comes to European history and they were the most blatant examples of religious conflict.
good people don't need religion to do bad things. they simply need an ideal to rally behind. whether it is religious or political. Both world wars were fought on a basis of superiority determined by nationality or race. The cold war was the product of a clash of social and economic structures. for every crusade there was a handful of wars fought for land, wealth or personal reasons. the reason the religious wars failed so miserably for Europe was because they were so busy fighting each other over land and power. The crusades are almost a sideshow when it comes to European history and they were the most blatant examples of religious conflict.
#78 to #38 - adzodeux
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Crusades, man
#119 to #38 - YllekNayr
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(07/06/2013) [-]
And theism is an excuse to be a bigot to other groups and call it piousness. What's your point?
#100 - SonofChuck ONLINE
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(07/06/2013) [-]
"Religion is bad because this person used it to do bad things!"
"Religion is good because this person used it to do good things!"

To me religion is just that, religion and that like everything else in this world it can be used to accomplish great good and great evil but that the choice is ours to make.

Also not for anything but Father Murphy couldn't have picked a better place to rape little boys.
#12 - jakatackka
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Since, you know, all of religion and the very concept of religion are to blame for this, and not the Catholic Church.
#13 to #12 - teranin [OP] ONLINE
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statement in contestation "religion does no harm". Catholocism is a religion. Catholocism does harm. Therefore, "religion does no harm" is false. That is literally all I'm saying here.
#92 to #13 - mattkingg **User deleted account**
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But i could say exactly the same about athiests.
#15 to #13 - anon
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(07/06/2013) [-]
The catholic church is also one of the the largest charitable organizations on earth, but feel free to ignore that part completely.

and here i am a Protestant, defending them.
#43 to #15 - ilovehitler
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Religion does both harm and good. It's not the religion itself, but rather the people who follow it, and what they choose to make of it.
It's the difference between somebody believing in Allah and someone blowing up buildings in his name.
#44 to #43 - rather
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(07/06/2013) [-]
I'm trying to get past your name.
It's not easy.
#45 to #44 - ilovehitler
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My name, while glorious on posts about Nazism, is... less than great on non-Nazi posts.

I can assure you, I do not actually love Hitler, nor do I hate him.
#46 to #45 - rather
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(07/06/2013) [-]
"You have been mentioned by ilovehitler"
'I gotta see this.'
#47 to #46 - ilovehitler
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How often is your name mentioned?
#49 to #47 - rather
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500+ times a day give or take.
#50 to #49 - fanfiction
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I know that feel, bro.
#51 to #50 - rather
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(07/06/2013) [-]
The only issue is never knowing when someone actually wants to talk to me.
#144 to #44 - scootpilgrim
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(07/06/2013) [-]
I guess you could say...

it's rather hard
#170 to #15 - cheesymondo
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(07/06/2013) [-]
a mass murderer goes to court, and complains the prosecution is ignoring all the charity work he did.
#16 to #15 - teranin [OP] ONLINE
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(07/06/2013) [-]
again, not saying they do no good, simply contesting the common statement "religion does no harm".
#14 to #13 - jakatackka
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(07/06/2013) [-]
Ah, good point.