Poking a different dragon. Lets see what this dragon has to say.. I'm just going to leave this here.
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User avatar #31 - mikeliterous (04/09/2013) [-]
does anybody have the quote from watchmen thats kind of like this.

its like -when they look up at me and scream help us I will whisper back no-
User avatar #64 to #31 - dairybun (04/10/2013) [-]
Dog carcass in alley this morning, tire tread on burst stomach. This city is afraid of me. I have seen its true face. The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."
#32 to #31 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
only one I've got
#8 - tehyanx (04/09/2013) [-]
I'm just going to leave this here.
User avatar #9 to #8 - moshthun (04/09/2013) [-]
9/11 wasn't purely because of religion. The Islam even forbids killing people, yes it does.
However, when you are attacked, an eye for an eye is permitted. It is not Islam that tells women to wear headdresses, to circumcise, to be against gays, no it is the Arabic culture which is in it's own Renaissance, consider how the Renaissance was in Western Europe.

9/11 was done because of the problems that America caused in the Middle East, Al'Qaida members never even vowed to Islam, they had to vow to Bin Laden, making him their ruler. The Islam is used as a tool to get people there first, BUT HEY WWI LOL.

In WWI both England and Germany used religion to make people join the army, much like Al'Qaida does.

Islam is not a bad religion, consider the fact that Islam actually promotes science, but the Arabic culture is in it's way once again. The Islam actually made developments in giving women the same rights as men etc. etc. but once again the Arabic culture interfered.


Not a strict Muslim myself, more an agnostic, but grew up with the teachings of Islam and people around me were strict Muslims.
#63 to #9 - Rascal (04/10/2013) [-]
relgois fantics are still relgois fantics sorr ybut some belved thye were doing for allah it like saying well its your fault for doing this but not our fault if people taken things out of context then uses to recuit other to do osmthing about hwta happen years ago using rlegoin for war is still bad no one agree with what hitlerd did well some do but as a socty we don't actually like htem we belittle them while in arab country mention naything bad about islam you will get hurt while in the west mention somthign bad about christay you get people complaining there is difference here sorry but there is
#10 to #9 - Rascal (04/09/2013) [-]
ten you would know relgoin has open interpitation ot it so in there eye they are right you are wrong sorry but this how things genrally wrok within relgoin most tend to follow the core aspect to point were thwantto and leae part they don't like again I am goingto assume you are brought up outside of the middle east were cultre and regois belfis are the samething like any were else
#2 - snowshark (04/09/2013) [-]
I really am sick and tired of this ******** .

There is a difference between christians and ******* idiots. The idiots might be christian but one is not dependent upon the other.

Maybe we can go a day without this pointless religious dumbass vs atheist dumbass nonsense and focus on some funny **** ... y'know... the reason we came here. (Well, apart from 'mirin DJ 4DM1N's milky korean tits.)
#3 to #2 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
A lot of people find ********** funny. If they didn't these kind of posts wouldn't hit front page so often.
User avatar #4 to #3 - snowshark (04/09/2013) [-]
Well... if it's because they think it's funny then I can't begrudge them their tastes. Funny is as funny does. It just all seems to me to be a little bit... naughty?
#5 to #4 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
I always try to be a little bit... naughty
User avatar #16 to #2 - MosKunas (04/09/2013) [-]
Regardless if it's "Christian idiots" making the accusations that are being claimed in the post, that text is still present stating what they believe, in their holy book. And that represents all of the people who follow the religion. You can't pick and choose what you like out of the bible, then ignore other parts that make you look bad.
User avatar #18 to #16 - snowshark (04/09/2013) [-]
Dude... it doesn't ******* matter.

If they're using the book to justify being a dick then they're idiots just as you are an idiot for using to book to justify being a dick to them. Don't **** with the people who aren't ******* with people. **** with the people who 'are' ******* with people.
User avatar #37 to #18 - MosKunas (04/09/2013) [-]
The bible says that if I don't believe in Christianity, I go to hell where i will burn for eternity. Is that not enough justification to defend myself from people who believe in said religion, or do you need more?
User avatar #39 to #37 - snowshark (04/09/2013) [-]
No. It is not. Not in my eyes at least.

So what if a 2000 year old book says you're naughty. If you don't believe in it then where is the ******* problem? They're not hurting you by believing that and as you are not going to hell why should you worry what other people happen to think?
User avatar #45 to #39 - MosKunas (04/10/2013) [-]
So you're saying, I should not be offended/worry about if there is a group of people who think I will burn for eternity because I don't believe what they believe. And no matter how good of a person I am, I will go to their hell. If you aren't seeing an issue here I don't know what will convince you, and this belief doesn't just apply to Christianity, it can apply to numerous other religions.
User avatar #46 to #45 - snowshark (04/10/2013) [-]
I'm not saying that you shouldn't be offended nor worry about it.

What I am saying is that it simply does not matter. You seem to have a pretty ignorant view of the thing you appear to dislike so much as well. Belief is not science. Like literature, belief is not something that you can just 'know'. Every person will have different beliefs. I have met catholics who believe the entrance to heaven comes purely from good deeds whereas I have met others who believe hell as a concept is not eternal.

The book itself comes from a time of stupider people and the only people who still take everything that is within the book seriously are idiots. Sadly you also fit that description because you are taking the contents of that book seriously whereas it is not the fault of the contents of the book, rather the fault of the idiots who still adhere blindly to them that would seek to persecute you.

You seem to seek to tar them all with the same brush because it is easier than accepting that they are not all the same, ironically a concept that shares parallels with the very fundamentals of your argument, building an arguable level of hypocrisy into what it is you say.

But even then you need not delve anywhere near that far into the problem in order to cease it being a problem. There is no need to worry simply because there is no need to worry. Just as their beliefs differ from each others do your beliefs differ from theirs. Your beliefs are not compromised simply because some guys 'said' something to you. Beliefs are stronger than that.

Words are meaningless unless we give them meaning. The crux of your problem is that just as the people you criticise give meaning to the now irrelevant passages of the bible you give meaning to the ramblings of those who do not deserve meaning. Their words are simply noises that appear in a pattern. A pattern that will not impede your ability to live your life. So just ignore it.
User avatar #84 to #46 - MosKunas (04/10/2013) [-]
I'm talking about the views that represent Christianity. You're giving me people's own individual interpretations of the religion, who are bending it to what they believe. I'm talking about the values that represent religion. And if you're degrading the bible, what else is there in order to follow Christianity, and establish its morals? There is none, the bible is all there is. And i'm not blaming the book, why would I blame people who had no idea what they were talking about, during a time of literally no science? I'm blaming the people who base their religion off of it, which is what Christianity is.

I understand what you are talking about, saying their own personal beliefs should not worry me. (Even though they can be terrible, and put me in their hell forever, but we won't go into that.) I'm talking about people as a whole. Obviously if you talk about this topic in the context of ones own subjective feelings, then yes, who gives a **** what anyone thinks about anything. But is it honestly productive to believe in such nonsense? And is it conducive for furthering ourselves as a race? I would agree with Richard Dawkins when he says Religion was nothing but a psychological by-product of the mind, and is not necessary.



User avatar #85 to #84 - snowshark (04/10/2013) [-]
Religion is not necessary because it is a bi-product of the mind and cultural fears of the unknown. However what is necessary are an awful number of things that religion does vary well. Religion serves as a fantastic means to create a good lifestyle. The Catholic religion promotes kindness and fairness to all as well as generosity and most importantly moral values.

Granted, Religion is not necessary in order to provide these things. I for one hold them to my chest without the need for faith. However that does not mean that we should shun religion in that sense. It has given us astounding works of devotion and beauty and produced miraculous human beings who devote their lives to the betterment of mankind as a whole.

Devotion such as that is possible without religion but religion manages to create it far more easily than is often found without it.

What is more is that the bible is not what you seem to believe it is. It is not a tome of outdated morals and dogmatic views. It is a book of teaching that tells people stories through which they learn how to be better people. Yes, there are aspects of the bible that are out-moded but that is no reason to neglect all that still holds true.

The story of christ is an inspiring tale of a man who preached kindness and fairness to all he met. Unconditional kindness. The clue is in the name. Christianity. They follow the example of christ.

You are confused. Religion does not create bad people. It merely facilitates their ability to be bad people. If you want an example of people being bad people even without the influence of religion then I direct you to yourself. You feel that it is justified to criticise people for their personal beliefs simply because they criticise you for yours. It is textbook hypocrisy.

The world is not yet ready to accept the loss of faith and when faith gives us such overwhelming acts of kindness as it does I can't disagree with them. It still has it's place in this world.
User avatar #86 to #85 - MosKunas (04/10/2013) [-]
And if religion is necessary for its ability to create good people, well at that point, there are no beliefs involved. And therefore just becomes a charity business. Unless you view it from the view that doing good things will get you into heaven, and your doing those things to be "saved" instead of actual caring of the well beings of those people. And if they aren't Christian then clearly you don't because under that mindset they are going to hell.

I'm saying that religion creates people who do no think rationally, and if they thought the way they do under any context other than religion they would be deemed insane. For example, do you believe "God" sent himself, to save us from himself, by killing himself, to save us for something we didn't do? Because that is the basic premise of the religion. I just want to get your point of view.
User avatar #87 to #86 - snowshark (04/10/2013) [-]
Of course I do not believe that. I have at no point argued against the absurdities of religious views. However you again miss the point. You continually argue that religion is not 'necessary' and my point is that it does not matter wether it is necessary or not because it helps create good people.

You are still clearly confused about the teachings of christianity. The term 'unconditional kindness' means nothing more than what it says. Wether someone is going to heaven or hell, you treat them as you would want to be treated were you in their shoes.

What is more, Boom:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xck2ByutMg

This is a video about one of the greatest human beings who ever lived. A man who taught kindness and generosity and values to millions and devoted his life to making peoples lives better, asking nothing in return.

This man is a christian through and through and the perfect example of why religion is not a bad thing. Because not everybody is doing it wrong.
User avatar #90 to #87 - MosKunas (04/11/2013) [-]
If your only reason for supporting religion being around, is its ability to create good people, then you don't know what you are talking about. I am not confused about any of the teaching of Christianity. And your showing me a video of a man who did good things, and happened to be Christian, as if that's justification for the religions hypocrisy.

You can't give an example like that, as if it justifies your view. Hitler was a catholic, so under that logic your reasoning would deny the church from being necessary. I understand that your supporting the church because it gives the opportunity to be a good person, but basing that production of morality in an area of ignorance and hypocrisy isn't the way to do it. And I assumed you would agree not to divulge into the absurdities of the religion you are desperately trying to protect, while it deserves none in the first place.
User avatar #92 to #90 - snowshark (04/11/2013) [-]
I'll narrow this down into 3 basic flaws in your reasoning.

1) Desperate: The outcome of this debate will have an impact upon my life that is so frightfully minuscule that it is beneath register. I continue because I feel you are misguided, because I enjoy a good debate and because I personally think the conversation we are having is very funny.

2) Absurdity: So? Does it matter? I have yet to meet a single christian who believes the bollocks about the garden of eden. Where they have been proved wrong, most well-minded christians have long-since adjusted their views to suit the emergent facts. Their belief is strong enough that other people not believing in it does not phase them. They simply accept the inaccuracies of the already outdated document whilst accepting the truths that it conveys.

3: Does not deserve: Whilst I honestly do not know for sure what you were trying to say there, partly because of the ambiguity of the wording, I assume you are trying to say that it does not deserve to be protected. I genuinely do not know why you would think such a thing as any rational mind can come up with a good reason to justify most things and as such protect them. E.G:

The Nazi Regime: The Nazi Regime brought the world into a post-imperial age by initiating a dissolution of the colony system. As a result of countries fighting Germany's imperialist views, many colonies wished to do the same with their own imperial overlords, leading to countries breaking out on their own. We also have a far greater global awareness of dictatorships, having seen how bad they can get as well as the unity between nations becoming far more prevalent than before. There is more but the point is made.

However rather than justifying the continuation of religion (which I have been doing for some time now) I will flip the board by asking you to justify why it is a detriment to society, as you have yet to provide solid reasoning in that area.
User avatar #91 to #90 - snowshark (04/11/2013) [-]
Urgh. It is ironic that arguing with you is like trying to talk to religious obsessives but I'm a stubborn old goat so I press onwards.

At no point did I state it was my only reason. There are numerous other reasons such as the artistry in all forms that it inspires or the spirit of unity it promotes.

I did not show you the video to justify my view. I showed it to completely invalidate your argument, which it does. You argue that the catholic religion deserves no respect and that it creates horribly hypocrite and judgemental people yet that man was an ordained minister who devoted his life to making the world a better place to be.

He is so starkly in contrast with your argument that, were you in the viewpoint of debate rather than argument, you would see the clear flaws in your argument. (I highly suggest you adopt that stance because whilst I am enjoying the debate I fear you will leave it without having absorbed a shred of information, trapped behind your hippocratic beliefs that cruelly judge a large group of people based upon the actions of a few.)

In return to your bringing up Adolf Hitler I will also point out that Adolf Hitler serves as an example that supports your views yet does not harm my stance in the slightest because my point is that the people are the ones at fault, not the religion.

Now, as for that 'morality through ignorance' thing. I agree. It is not the most sensible way to do it. However part of my respect for humanity in general is our right to choose what we want to believe. What is more, there isn't a substitute for it in society. The society in which we live is not nearly as good at cultivating morality as the church is. There is a need in this culture for morality and sadly it is something that is sorely lacking in this age. Removing one of the last bastions of morality would simply worsen society's problems.

As for the divulging the absurdities. I'll need another comment to derail that particular train as this one is rather full.
User avatar #93 to #91 - MosKunas (04/11/2013) [-]
Ok, at this point I think we are arguing two different points. If you are trying to say that the church gives the opportunity for people to do good things, then of course you're right. But i'm arguing the fact that those morals are based off of ridiculous ideas with false hopes. I do understand what you are saying though. But the church has the ability to create good and bad, as well as atheism, buddhism, jainism does etc. If you agree that religious views are absurd, and we both agree that the church has the ability to create good people, just as anything does. I don't see what we are arguing over.



User avatar #94 to #93 - snowshark (04/11/2013) [-]
It was to my understanding that you argued the church should be removed because you personally had grievances with the concept of it (the whole hell bollocks).

I argue contrary to the fact because of my belief in the freedom to choose your belief as well as my view that the church does enough good to balance out the ill.

Some of the ideas within the bible are ridiculous and the hopes are only as false as we perceive them to be. Wether a heaven exists or not does not matter. At the end of the day those who live their lives in an attempt to reach heaven (i.e. living good lives) will ultimately end up with one of two results:

1) They find their nirvana and enjoy eternity laughing at us poor scientific folk as we gently charr in hell.

2) It is contrary to their expectations.

Nothing has changed. The only way to tell wether or not there is a heaven and/or hell is to die and by that point wether you are right or wrong is no longer important because the effects it has on you will not be felt in the world in which we live. If you personally believe, as I do, that there is no afterlife then there is no problem with their 'false' hopes because an alternative set of beliefs still lands them in a situation where they are regrettably dead. It just so happens that they likely lived a better life on the way there than they perhaps would have if they did not feel there was a need for them to be good.

Whilst, yes, it is shallow to do good because of selfish reasons like wanting to be in the afterlife, it does not really matter because whatever the motives, the person is still doing good. They live their lives arguably happier and more contented than others and they do not fear death because in their faith they have comfort and certainty. There is nothing wrong with that. Just as you should not need to believe in a hell, they should not be forced to not.
User avatar #95 to #94 - MosKunas (04/11/2013) [-]
I am an anti-theist, while you are an atheist. Problem solved.
#23 to #18 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
If you don't rock the boat from time to time people will become complacent. Complacent people are sheep. Sheep get eaten by the wolves.  I'd rather everyone be a human, because a human can self-determinate, and wolves have a much harder time preying on humans.   
   
That being said man, this post is targeted at people who actually believe, in their heart, that my lot for not believing in their god is eternal torment and suffering.  If that's not something you believe, then this isn't directed at you, so why take offense? After all, I actually rather like you and appreciate your views and candor, so if you don't think my lot is to burn eternally then there is no reason why we need dislike one another.
If you don't rock the boat from time to time people will become complacent. Complacent people are sheep. Sheep get eaten by the wolves. I'd rather everyone be a human, because a human can self-determinate, and wolves have a much harder time preying on humans.

That being said man, this post is targeted at people who actually believe, in their heart, that my lot for not believing in their god is eternal torment and suffering. If that's not something you believe, then this isn't directed at you, so why take offense? After all, I actually rather like you and appreciate your views and candor, so if you don't think my lot is to burn eternally then there is no reason why we need dislike one another.
User avatar #29 to #23 - snowshark (04/09/2013) [-]
Oh I'm not offended. I'm bored. I'm bored of the endless stirring of the hornets nests of idiocy that exist on either side of the blood-bowl of theological debate. As I've stated below, I've no grudge against people being funny and having their giggles but that does not change the fact that I am just bored with religious nuts and atheist arseholes making the same noise over and over again.

Granted, complacency is rarely a completely beneficial state, but the people who are willing to accept the views of others already do not need the boat-rocking, meaning that the only people who are affected by it are the angry, stupid ones.

It is essentially little more than trolling militant bronies or CoD/Halo fanboys or Mac/PC users.

Thanks for the compliment, mind. I also do not dislike you. (Seriously, a disagreeable post on funnyjunk really isn't enough in my books to merit dislike. Kill a puppy with a hammer, then we'll talk.)
#33 to #29 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
Is it bad that I wished I had an animated gif of someone killing a puppy with a hammer to respond to that with?  Maybe I really am a huge troll.
Is it bad that I wished I had an animated gif of someone killing a puppy with a hammer to respond to that with? Maybe I really am a huge troll.
User avatar #34 to #33 - snowshark (04/09/2013) [-]
Not a bad thing. It's the internet. We're here to exist outside of previously-established cultural boundaries and revel in the freedom of the self-generated and ever-evolving culture of memes and virals that make the internet their home.

On the net, wanting something perverse is par for the course. We do not judge because we are on the internet and frankly if we were to start judging people then we just wouldn't get anywhere, would we?

Long story short, google that **** , son!
#35 to #34 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
... I really don't want to google someone killing a puppy. Even I have my limits. There aren't many... but they're there.
User avatar #36 to #35 - snowshark (04/09/2013) [-]
Can't argue with that. Puppies do tend to be far cuter when the stuff that's meant to be inside them is still inside them.
#76 - Rascal (04/10/2013) [-]
Those saying "Oh, we'll you can't go to hell for not believing" should try reading your "holy" book. Good ******* science, you're all morons.
User avatar #40 - aldheim (04/10/2013) [-]
"The Atheist's Bible"
That is the single most retarded sentence I have ever ever read.
Jesus **** .
#80 to #40 - Hightower ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
Bible - from the latin biblia meaning book. Can also be defined as any book or written work that is considered authoritative in its field.
User avatar #42 to #40 - teranin ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
the atheist's bible COMMENTARY. It's not a bible, it's commentary on the bible from an atheist.
User avatar #43 to #42 - aldheim (04/10/2013) [-]
That makes substantially more sense.
#65 - Rascal (04/10/2013) [-]
You don't go to hell for disagreeing with God, you go to hell for committing sin. I think we can all agree that we have done something bad at some point in our life.

And now come the red thumbs.
User avatar #66 to #65 - teranin ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
Revelations 21:8 - But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

unbelievers and idolaters.
#68 to #66 - Rascal (04/10/2013) [-]
Okay, I know you're gonna disagree with me on this, but the ten commandments do say "thou shalt have no other gods before me", so the Bible counts that as a sin. You'll probably disagree with me on this one, that's okay.

The unbelievers aren't being thrown in hell because they are unbelievers, but because they have sinned. Believing is what saves you from sin.
User avatar #69 to #68 - teranin ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
no, that actually is accurate, but you see, that's the ******* problem.
#70 to #69 - Rascal (04/10/2013) [-]
I guess, to each his own.
User avatar #96 to #66 - thatguyontheright ONLINE (04/18/2013) [-]
Damn non-believers can do magic? Since when? I guess I started too late to get my Hogwarts letter.
#77 to #65 - Hightower ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
All have sinned, and fall short the glory of God - Romans #:23

One of the reasons I chose atheism is all of the contradictions in the bible.
#24 - bigrog (04/09/2013) [-]
Gotta love how any one who tries to defend religion or even worse, actually says something mildly bad about atheism or even just something about this way of thinking is immediately thumbed down like no other.
User avatar #27 to #24 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
because seriously, if you scroll down in the convo, I think you'll note that more thumbs seem to be going to the moderately religious than to the atheists or the fanatics.
#26 to #24 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
I actually thumbed you up because your statement supported the content so well.  I don't know if I really agree with this second one though.  I'll just not thumb it one way or the other.
I actually thumbed you up because your statement supported the content so well. I don't know if I really agree with this second one though. I'll just not thumb it one way or the other.
#50 - Rascal (04/10/2013) [-]
Why don't atheist just live their lives as atheist and enjoy their non-religion lives and when a god worshipers tries to convince you just walk away and not waste your limited life on some ******** , instead of dictating your life on avoiding a thing you don't believe in and religion people just quite jamming it down people throat and if you want to spread the word of god just spend a minute on why you don't have to believe just follow his teachings instead forcing them to believe in your god now the next **** on religion I hear I am going to find who posted it and spend three days lecturing them on why we have to not give a **** and or **** about what others believe or don't believe in.
User avatar #52 to #50 - teranin ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
For the sake of humanity's survival, and our potential for greatness. That's why I do it, although I'm not so arrogant to believe that I will have a significant impact.
User avatar #61 to #52 - ghostisaho (04/10/2013) [-]
i see you are not religious. all i have to say is have a nice day, and may all your hopes and dreams come true.
#53 to #50 - knuckleheaded (04/10/2013) [-]
**** you, you imbecile.
User avatar #57 to #50 - zysolyn (04/10/2013) [-]
We.meet.again.Sargeant.Spaces.
#79 to #50 - Hightower ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
In my experience, it's because the religious people are always trying to force their beliefs on the entire world. They attempt to make laws based on their religion, and want those laws enforced upon us all, whether we believe or not. So our only choices, as I see them, are to stand silently by while religious zealots regulate every facet of our lives, or we fight back, and refuse to be treated like monsters, or second class citizens, simply for not believing in their imaginary friend.
User avatar #62 - mctoilet **User deleted account** (04/10/2013) [-]
So yeah. Im just gonna write a big wall of text like everyone else. This will state my opinion towards somethings and i will be right.
So today i actualy had chicken for lunch, it was okay , not swimming in fat nor dry as Oprahs Vag.
But then it hit me. Oprah has huge tits. and this chicken had a huge amount of flesh on its chest. So big titted chicken? is this a new Chicken race? Could we rely on Wild chicken with Titties in the future? would they produce milk? and would that taste funny?
TL:DR Chicken tastes nice, and i had an okay day
The potatoes where horrible though
#67 to #62 - teranin ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
Big breast chicken sounds tasty.
#6 - invisabull (04/09/2013) [-]
oh cool.    
...this again.   
   
hasn't this fad passed yet?
oh cool.
...this again.

hasn't this fad passed yet?
User avatar #7 to #6 - tehyanx (04/09/2013) [-]
Surprisingly she actually has a nice rack.
#19 to #6 - cheesymondo (04/09/2013) [-]
riiiiight. its a fad....
#71 to #19 - invisabull (04/10/2013) [-]
Yes, but your pic seems to miss the point. I'm not talking about Atheism. People can believe whatever they want, as long as they don't pretentiously ram it down other people's throats.
What i'm talking about is the sudden need for teenagers to post obnoxious and inflamatory athiest rants on internet messageboards. That has only recently become wide spread and I suspect they will grow up soon and/or move on.

It's this month's Ganham Style/Overly attached Girlfriend/Harlem Shake/Jessi Slaughter/Rick Perry/Internet Explorer etc etc etc etc

So I believe it is a fad.

In the mean time, to the rest of us it's boring as **** , and looks just as pathetic as obnoxious christians ranting about creationism.

In the mean time this says it better than me:
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User avatar #83 to #71 - cheesymondo (04/10/2013) [-]
IM, Im sorry, are atheist's going door to door again?

if not, welcome to the public forum, where you are actually going and they are not forcing you to take it in. if it gets popular it's most likely because it matches a majority of the internet's views, like adventure time or mlp.

publicly criticizing religion is not a fad however. it shows others that questioning religion is okay, and gives people confidence to question their ideals that were handed down, as well as others that would infringe on their rights.
so pic is relative. this has been happening for nearly two thousand years. and i dont see it slowing down any time soon.
#59 - selfdenyingbeggar (04/10/2013) [-]
how can he be threaten with violence with an imaginary situation?
User avatar #1 - navadae (04/09/2013) [-]
...nope
#22 - bigrog (04/09/2013) [-]
People like this you have the gall to be bigoted and cause others **** and then saying the people they are treating like **** are the ones who are bigoted then try to excuse there bigoted behavior by saying it our fault they are bigoted, these are the people I hate most. People like this make me happy with my religion because i know they will burn in hell, and it makes me hope that if mine is wrong then i hope another with a form of hell is right so he can burn there, and if no religion is right i hope he dies suffering
#25 to #22 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
Thank you, bigrog, for supporting my point and providing a beautiful example of it.  I appreciate that.  That being said,  *poke*.
Thank you, bigrog, for supporting my point and providing a beautiful example of it. I appreciate that. That being said, *poke*.
#28 to #25 - bigrog (04/09/2013) [-]
I didn't prove **** , my way of thinking is extremely against those of my religion, as a matter of fact my preacher taught an entire month long lesson against thinking like that. I think like that because of my own personal reasons and in all honesty i am not a very good person yet, still trying to work on that. My religion does not at all make me like this, people who wrote **** like this quote and people like you ruining trying to make my early life hell is why i think like this. Dont you dare blame my religion for my actions.
#30 to #28 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
If you honestly believe that my non-belief will cause me to burn eternally, then your religion is in some way to blame for putting the idea in your head, and while I'm pleased that you take such a strong stance of personal responsibility for those beliefs, the fact remains that without the influence of said religion those beliefs would simply not exist.  So there is no reason for me to have respect for the aforementioned set of beliefs that have rendered their assistance in your wish to see me burn.   
   
Furthermore, were your beliefs not what they are, you would never have been offended at this post to begin with, so once again, even though you are responsible for your actions (and I applaud you for that) they are colored by your beliefs.  Also, if your early life was hell, due to the actions of atheists, I would actually like to know more, because I doubt anyone would wish a person pain in their youth,  and if it was truly that bad for you then you have my sympathies and I would like to know more, as expanding my knowledge of injustices done from people operating on a similar perogative to my own would allow me to educate myself and others on how perhaps NOT to handle things.  In no way would I ever want to make children suffer.
If you honestly believe that my non-belief will cause me to burn eternally, then your religion is in some way to blame for putting the idea in your head, and while I'm pleased that you take such a strong stance of personal responsibility for those beliefs, the fact remains that without the influence of said religion those beliefs would simply not exist. So there is no reason for me to have respect for the aforementioned set of beliefs that have rendered their assistance in your wish to see me burn.

Furthermore, were your beliefs not what they are, you would never have been offended at this post to begin with, so once again, even though you are responsible for your actions (and I applaud you for that) they are colored by your beliefs. Also, if your early life was hell, due to the actions of atheists, I would actually like to know more, because I doubt anyone would wish a person pain in their youth, and if it was truly that bad for you then you have my sympathies and I would like to know more, as expanding my knowledge of injustices done from people operating on a similar perogative to my own would allow me to educate myself and others on how perhaps NOT to handle things. In no way would I ever want to make children suffer.
#38 to #30 - bigrog (04/09/2013) [-]
No i would have still been offended. And you obviosely didn't read my comment at all. I said i wished the worst for him because of his bigoted views, not because he is an atheist. And if you would have read my entire comment you would have seen that i also said if no religion is right i hoped he would die suffering. My point was i wanted him to suffer and be in pain and that i was happy i believed in hell so that he could suffer. not that he deserved to go to hell for being an atheist. And also that i though this way not at all because of my religion, but because plain and simple as of now i am still a bad person (still working on that) And it wasn't atheist who made my early life hell, it was people who just couldnt let people live how they want then take it a step further and blame the other person for them being an asshole. At first it was because of how i dressed, then it was my wieght, then it was for being an atheist, and now its for being christian. It seems everytime i turn of the computer that no matter what website i go to i see bigoted crap like this telling me how evil i am and evil my religion is and how by me believing i am somehow partially responsible for every bad thing in history
#41 to #38 - teranin ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
I see, perhaps I took too many liberties of inference with your original post. It is unfortunate that you had so many difficulties in your young life, I can relate as I spent my young life being constantly evangelized to by adults and students, told I would go to hell for not believing as they do, beaten by mobs for it, and it was used heavily as an excuse for ******* with me as much as possible. My reaction was perhaps a bit different from your's, in that I trained in martial arts through my youth, learned to defend myself, and consistently defended myself successfully in unwarranted physical altercations, for which I was nearly expelled many times. After school I found that I was able to avoid much of this hate in the job market, but once I went to college it was a return to much of the same. Luckily I studied microbiology, so most of the courses I took in my major did not have such crap, but I was denied entry to any fraternity for my lack of religious beliefs. Since my graduation I have generally been reasonably successful, but I still hold a great distaste in my heart for those who would torment me in their fanatical fervor, and as such I do rather enjoy calling those beliefs which twisted those around me into question as often as possible, in the hopes that maybe even one person, just one, will question what they have been told and stop serving ignorance. You call me a bigot and say I called you evil, I say that I have been called evil my whole life, and that I am not a bigot because I do not hate people but rather a system that I feel harms them. I do not think that you are evil, and I do not hate you or wish you harm, but I do not feel the need to show undue respect to those who would desire me harm, and I will always call into question a belief structure that would direct someone to wish harm upon me.
#49 to #41 - bigrog (04/10/2013) [-]
You see we actually did handle things similarly. I got big, learned to fight, and started to carry a knife. Difference is i took things quite a bit farther. There was one particular person who made my life very hard who i had planned on killing. I was going to fallow him home one day, skip the next day at school and wait for him at his house and then when he got home i was going to come up behind him and cave in his skull with a lead pipe, then dispose of it on the way home. It was in those few days of plannig that i had a few powerful experiences that led to my conversion to Christianity. People often tell me my beliefs are evil, but to me they will always be the reason i am not either in prison or being haunted by the fact i killed someone. And i would also like to point that your post takes it a step farther than not respecting the belief, it said that i should not be respected, nor should any christian. When something is posted that says i dont deserve to be respected as a human because of my religion then i am not just going to get pissed, i am going to rightfully call that bigotry
#44 to #22 - theism ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
"I'm happy because people I don't like will be set on fire and burn forever.' -You, 2013
#47 to #44 - bigrog (04/10/2013) [-]
please read the whole conversation. I admitted it was personal reasons, i admitted it was out of anger and \hate, i openly said it was because i was a bad person. And tell me, can you honsestly tell me that you dont get some enjoyment from bad thing happens to people you hate. Difference between you and me is i am honest enough to admit it. I threw a damn party when kim jong ill died.
#48 to #47 - theism ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
I don't like seeing someone suffer unnecessarily.
If someone pissed me off a little I'd be laugh if they got shat on by a bird, but not if they got hit by a car or set on fire. That would just be dickish.
User avatar #51 to #47 - myrtille ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
You threw a party for someone whose name you can't even spell correctly?
#54 to #51 - bigrog (04/10/2013) [-]
**** off
User avatar #55 to #54 - myrtille ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
Okay, bye.
User avatar #20 - cheesewithmold (04/09/2013) [-]
>assuming we all believe in THE EXACT SAME RELIGION. **** off.
#21 to #20 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
obviously this is directed at people who follow the bible, and believe it to be true.
obviously this is directed at people who follow the bible, and believe it to be true.
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User avatar #58 to #56 - teoberry (04/10/2013) [-]
You got the wrong verse. Best to delete before anyone bitches at you
#88 to #58 - cartertyler (04/11/2013) [-]
damn your right i thought it said psalm 141 not 14 thanks for the heads up
User avatar #89 to #88 - teoberry (04/11/2013) [-]
no problem buddy
#11 - masterboll (04/09/2013) [-]
1. wrong!    
you can not burn in hell for disagreeing with what someone believes in   
you can only burn in hell for acts which are considered "morally wrong" (this usually links in with what society perceives as morally right or wrong)   
2. wrong!   
respect isnt impossible at that point. its understandable to think that there is a satisfying feeling which comes from believing that something really bad will happen to evil people (regardless of whether it will happen or not)   
3. niqqa u srs?   
if a holy book which is over thousands of years old can convince you that you cant do good then you probably cant do good   
4. you dont have to be a part of a religion to hate atheists, its comes naturally over time   
5. if there is an atheists bible then it might be a better idea to specify what kinds of beliefs that the atheist sect/cult have, this way they can be openly criticised without people having to target something as broad as "atheism"
1. wrong!
you can not burn in hell for disagreeing with what someone believes in
you can only burn in hell for acts which are considered "morally wrong" (this usually links in with what society perceives as morally right or wrong)
2. wrong!
respect isnt impossible at that point. its understandable to think that there is a satisfying feeling which comes from believing that something really bad will happen to evil people (regardless of whether it will happen or not)
3. niqqa u srs?
if a holy book which is over thousands of years old can convince you that you cant do good then you probably cant do good
4. you dont have to be a part of a religion to hate atheists, its comes naturally over time
5. if there is an atheists bible then it might be a better idea to specify what kinds of beliefs that the atheist sect/cult have, this way they can be openly criticised without people having to target something as broad as "atheism"
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User avatar #17 to #15 - masterboll (04/09/2013) [-]
Jesus also said that there's a difference between 'your' and 'you're'
#12 to #11 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
1:Read Revelations 21:8 and then try again   
2: Your belief system means that you believe I will burn, I do not need to respect you for thinking I will burn forever.   
3: It's not me that the book would convince guy, it's the person who follows it.   
4: Glad to see you're just an ass =P   
5: Atheists have no dogma, no sacrament of any kind, they are not a sect, not a cult, and they simply do not believe in any gods, period, so of course there would be no "bible" for that.
1:Read Revelations 21:8 and then try again
2: Your belief system means that you believe I will burn, I do not need to respect you for thinking I will burn forever.
3: It's not me that the book would convince guy, it's the person who follows it.
4: Glad to see you're just an ass =P
5: Atheists have no dogma, no sacrament of any kind, they are not a sect, not a cult, and they simply do not believe in any gods, period, so of course there would be no "bible" for that.
User avatar #13 to #12 - masterboll (04/09/2013) [-]
1. there are probably hundreds of different explanations as to what hell is as youre asking me to read something i dont believe in
2. wrong!
"my" belief system suggests that only those who willingly do wrong will burn in hell
3. an atheist getting butthurt over someone elses problem is something im way too familiar with these days
4. naahhh, thats just mean
5. just because groups of atheists who follow a belief system dont call themselves sects or cults doesnt make them any less of sects or cults
#14 to #13 - teranin ONLINE (04/09/2013) [-]
1: If you don't understand the source material for christianity, then you have no business rebutting someone else's statements about it.
2: I assumed you were christian, and held to your religion's held beliefs. My apologies if this assumption was incorrect.
3:That has nothing to do with anything, since it's not a matter of getting "butthurt", but rather a matter of simply not showing respect to a place where none is forthcoming.
4: Being arbitrarily mean does indicate that you are in fact an ass.
5: A cult is defined as a "new religious movement" however, the absence of religion has been around since the dawn of time, and is a movement away from religion not a movement towards it. A sect would imply that atheism is an offshoot group of another religious or philosophical organization, for which an argument could be made for it being an offshoot of rationalism, and I wouldn't really argue against that. However, atheism does not require a "bible" because that would imply an overarching system of beliefs, which would be an implication that runs directly counter to what atheism is, as characterized by a lack of belief in god or gods.
#73 - sirthomasburr (04/10/2013) [-]
Just a quick question here, if theism is the belief in organised religion, and deism is the belief in a God of some form, why is atheism not adeism? I get that many atheists are opposed to organised religion, but surely under this definition people who believe in God but reject religion are atheist too? Probably just semantics, or I've got the wrong end of the stick.
User avatar #75 to #73 - maddboiy (04/10/2013) [-]
Theism is the belief in a god or deity so one can be religious and not believe in a god, i am atheist but also a Buddhist.
#82 to #75 - sirthomasburr (04/10/2013) [-]
Since when are you a Buddhist?
User avatar #74 to #73 - teranin ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
that's an interesting quandry, but atheists are defined as those who do not believe in a god or gods. I guess they weren't talking the non-religious who believe in a god or gods into account when they made their word for the opposite view.
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User avatar #78 to #72 - VincentKing ONLINE (04/10/2013) [-]
How dare you love the internet! You are meant to be annoyed by it! Why, if you start to love it, then everyone will love it!

How was that?
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#60 - ballerfifteen (04/10/2013) [-]
gotta love the buthurt in this thread
gotta love the buthurt in this thread
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