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#870 - foliap (07/29/2012) [-]
learn the difference.

Christian: someone who believes in a higher and/or has a set of rules to live by in life, but keeps his/her own god-damn opinions to their selves.

retarded Christian: thinks that it's their right to make everyone abide by their religious laws, and often misinterprets the bible and/or twist it in away that they can use it against the law. they are usually overweight and sometimes from southern.

I have a lot of Christian friends, and they believe in evolution, science , gay marriage etc and they have their own explanations as to why the world and the universe is the way as it is, incorporating modern understanding of science and origins of the universe.

TL;DR summary

Christian: believes in higher power but keeps idea to ones self

retarded Christian: misinterprets bible, and believes everyone must abide by their religious law.

-a lot of non-arrogant modern Christians incorporate science, evolution and so on into their beliefs, and give new explanations to it.

and finally, this whole "proud atheist" **** has to stop, carry on with the jokes and mocking of "retarded Christians", but don't claim that every other Christian is like that.

...few... ok, I'm done with my angry, butthurt rant.....

btw I am atheist
User avatar #895 to #870 - noblexfenrir (07/29/2012) [-]
Unfortunately there is a flaw with your reasoning, being a christian/theist in general is retarded in itself, because of the core base of the belief- Faith. Yes you may have friends who believe in science and evolution and what not but those concepts do not go hand in hand with their religion, they actually do quite the opposite and contradict and oppose it.

Yes your definition of a retarded christian is much worse to deal with, but just because they don't push their beliefs on others, DOES NOT mean their beliefs aren't ******* dumb.
#918 to #895 - Sammael (07/29/2012) [-]
You are actually hate I hate about every fanatic out there.
You see, logical, smart people always leave a small chance that they are wrong.
Also logical smart people show respect to those they disagree with if those they disagree with don't force their own beliefs on them.
You, and people like you have a different way of thinking. "I am right, I am absolutely right, and everyone who thinks different is a retard. They deserve me insulting them, and me to act superior to them, because I am right and they are wrong."
You are a fanatic. No different then christian or any other religious fanatic, and world would be much better place without you all.
User avatar #919 to #918 - noblexfenrir (07/29/2012) [-]
I never said I didn't have a possibility of being wrong. I ask them to prove it and then they can't. There still is the possibility I am wrong but the fact is humans aren't omniscient creatures so we determine existence through knowledge and evidence.

I show respect to religion, I have no problem with them having it and I understand why they do. Doesn't mean I don't have my own opinion on it.

and no, the deserve criticism and when they cannot meet criticism with proof, then i call them wrong.
#920 to #919 - Sammael (07/30/2012) [-]
Ok, I'll give you a little exercise they do in coledge basic philosophy.
Prove to me YOU exist.
User avatar #921 to #920 - noblexfenrir (07/30/2012) [-]
I've gone through this before, really must I do it again because you think it's this revolutionary mind changing experiment?

Sigh, I exist because as a human I have other things to determine existence from. I see a vase, other people see a vase, we feel the vase, etc etc etc. It exists in our subjective reality, I use this determination process to say "I exist".

Please remember I said subjective, because that as humans is all we have.
#923 to #921 - Sammael (07/30/2012) [-]
Well answer is actually, "because I think"
But all that does is, it prove to YOU that YOU exist, not to me.
As far as I know, I am lying in bed and those iffy mushrooms i had for dinner are making me hallucinate being on funny junk. Sucky hall man...
As you said, our entire existence is entirely subjective, just because someone develops beliefs and opinions based on other criteria then you do does not make them retards.
Would you call Ghandi retard? He believed not just in one god, but in many, and some of them look like monkies in make up and drag.
How about someone like Mother Theresa, who's efforts saved millions of indian children. Was she a retard because she was Catholic?
Declaring people retards just because they have different set of beliefs then you do is wrong, its discriminatory and it makes you a smaller person.

On the other hand, someone tries to force their beliefs on you, soemone tells you you are (insert insult here) because you believe different then they do. Someone tells you will burn in hell for being atheist.
**** them, they ARE retards.
User avatar #925 to #923 - noblexfenrir (07/30/2012) [-]
Listen you sound intelligent, you have to understand that whole "I think therefor I am" argument is just arguing semantics. When I am arguing reality I am arguing it in the reality I exist, whether it's drug induced or what have you, so saying this reality is fabricated is rather a moot point because everything I discuss about existence is related purely to this reality.

Ghandi wasn't a retard, his religion was though for every reason I've given.
Again mother theresa was an amazing person, with a retarded religion.
I never called anyone retarded, I was simply talking about OP's definition of "retarded" christians.

#926 to #925 - Sammael (07/30/2012) [-]
I picked those two examples very carefully.
In this two cases, two great people have done great things for the people and made the world a better place.
Inspired and driven by their religion.
so I ask you, by which standards is it retarded? Yours? Who are you anyway?
So if you judge don't forget one thing, mate, respect of other people's beliefs will give you respect for yours, disrespect only breeds more of same.
Until atheists don't learn to show respect to beliefs they don't share (and you don't know how to do that, you just called two major world religions retarded) they have no right to complain when people show no respect for them.
Simple as that.
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