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Deal with it. " When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the s

" When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property." (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

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#70 - xxsleepxx
Reply +72
(02/04/2013) [-]
4 things:
1.) The bible never straightout said "yay slavery" it was arrogance and the interpretation. The "White Man's Burden" sort of, if you will.
2.) Way to go to the Old Testement. Reason why it's called Old.
3.) I'm tired off all these religious posts, mainly from athiests.
4.) From one athiest to another; shut up, no one cares, get over yourself, move on with your life
#156 to #70 - jallious
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(02/04/2013) [-]
Until Christianity, and indeed all religions stop causing so many people to die for no good reason, I think these should continue.
#205 to #70 - teoferrazzi
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(02/04/2013) [-]
atheist*
#213 to #70 - anon
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(02/04/2013) [-]
Except the part which condemns gays also comes from the "Old" Testament. But that part doesn't get dismissed so easily.
#227 to #70 - asmodeu
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(02/04/2013) [-]
There is the matter that not most of religious figures stood against slavery, but most of the religious figures stood (and are staying) against homosexuality.
Then again, they are "white men" misinterpreting the holy teachings of god...
#262 to #70 - anon
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(02/04/2013) [-]
1) You're basically saying it's arrogance and a misinterpretation without any justification?
2) So, the omnibenevolence of God is inconsistent? Is God not an enlightened being?
3) Biased opinion.
4) Biased opinion.
#73 to #70 - teoberry
Reply +11
(02/04/2013) [-]
you're a good guy,
you're a good guy,
#61 - boyddamilkman
Reply +28
(02/04/2013) [-]
I'm sorry but those hats are a sin.
#62 to #61 - thebritishguy [OP]
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(02/04/2013) [-]
#72 - Cleavland Steamer
Reply +21
(02/04/2013) [-]
That's funny, because the internet is generally OK with BOTH slavery and gay people.
#100 - machinaeprime
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(02/04/2013) [-]
The bible is definitely not okay with that hat and that jacket.
#55 - ssurtrebor **User deleted account**
Reply +14
(02/04/2013) [-]
Oh look, another atheist quoting the Old Testament. Let me give you a tip: Learn about something you disagree with. Right now you're more ignorant than any average Christian.
#58 to #55 - thebritishguy [OP]
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(02/04/2013) [-]
the new testament says that slavery is ok to, in fact Jesus said that you should beat your slaves if they do anything bad. Let me give you a tip: Learn about something you disagree with.
#67 to #58 - teoberry
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(02/04/2013) [-]
sourceÉ
#69 to #67 - sheepysquirrel
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(02/04/2013) [-]
While in prison, Paul met a runaway slave, Onesimus, the property of a Christian -- presumably Pheliemon. He sent the slave back to his owner. This action is forbidden in Deuteronomy 23:15-16:

"Thou shalt not deliver unto his master the servant which is escaped from his master unto thee."

"He shall dwell with thee, even among you, in that place which he shall choose in one of thy gates, where it liketh him best: thou shalt not oppress him."

Rather than give the slave sanctuary, Paul returned him to his owner. Paul seems to hint that he would like Pheliemon to give Onesimus his freedom, but does not actually request it. See the Letter to Philemon in the Christian Scriptures.

Luke 12:45-48: "The lord [owner] of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."

Ephesians 6:5-9: "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him."

Need I go on?
#71 to #69 - teoberry
Reply 0
(02/04/2013) [-]
You conveniently left out 45. If your slave beats the others and gets drunk on your wine, he should be disciplined. simple.

45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk.

Ephesians tells slave owners to treat slaves well.

Paul did want to force Phil to do anything (verse 8), so he sent him back hoping Phil would treat Ones like he would Paul. Does not condone slavery.
#76 to #71 - sheepysquirrel
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(02/04/2013) [-]
Interpret things as you wish.
#85 to #76 - teoberry
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(02/04/2013) [-]
I will
#80 to #55 - sheepysquirrel
Reply 0
(02/04/2013) [-]
Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Old Testament is still in play according to Jesus.
#2 - dwarfman
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Atheism does not equate to morality. Followers of that creed have murdered millions, and when it boils down you are no better than the theist you claim are destroying the world. As I have typed this too many sodding times I am linking to my previous threads.

funnyjunk.com/channel/atheism/Pretty+much/goimGtb/29#29
funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/4371005/Christian+logic/204#204
#12 to #2 - thebritishguy [OP]
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(02/03/2013) [-]
also atheists have no set of morals so how are we bad? by that logic you are bad because Hitler was religious
#65 to #2 - gammajk
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(02/04/2013) [-]
That's not what this post is saying. It's saying "the bible is OK with slavery but condemns homosexuality". That's it.
#188 to #2 - Faz
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(02/04/2013) [-]
Lets get one thing straight, people aren't followers of atheism.
#294 to #188 - dwarfman
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(02/04/2013) [-]
It is a faith like any other. A system of morality defined by those who follow it. Only difference is a lack of a big man upstairs (or big men/women upstairs if you're a polytheist).
#308 to #294 - Faz
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(02/05/2013) [-]
Atheism isn't faith its a lack of faith, atheism doesn't have a system of morality, being atheist means nothing more than you do not believe in a God.
#4 to #2 - thebritishguy [OP]
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(02/03/2013) [-]
I wasn't doing this to judge people but I did it to judge the bible
#13 to #4 - thebritishguy [OP]
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(02/03/2013) [-]
it's like what Malcolm X said I am for the truth who ever tells it and anyway just because some atheists have done some bad things doesn't mean slavery is ok or any of the other disgusting things in the bible.
#18 to #13 - dwarfman
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Thanks for deleting my comment. If your arguments were sound you don't need to attempt to stomp out discontent.
#56 to #18 - thebritishguy [OP]
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(02/04/2013) [-]
I am sorry for that I don't know what reason I had for deleting the comment
#5 to #4 - dwarfman
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#15 to #2 - yerfdog
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Do you know how many ******* times I've heard people say that people are atheists just so that they can get away with doing "evil" ****? How many times I've heard people say that there would be no morals without God? That their religion is the only source for morals?

It's infuriating. The image isn't saying that atheism equates to morality. It's saying that, according to the Bible, God supports some ****** up ****. How it relates to what I said, well, clearly, religion isn't the only part that is stopping people from doing the ****** up **** because the religion supports some of that ****** up ****. That their religion isn't the only source for morals. That, clearly, we would have some morals without "God".
#17 to #15 - dwarfman
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Never did I state theism equates to morality either. As I've said before: Men have amazing capacities for evil no matter their faith. (Atheism is a faith as well, doesn't answer everything and is the "best guess" presented to some, not to all)
#34 to #2 - needlessfoal
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(02/03/2013) [-]
By my power you will not get thumbed down!
By my power you will not get thumbed down!
#35 to #34 - dwarfman
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Awesome.
#36 to #35 - needlessfoal
Reply -1
(02/03/2013) [-]
It's what I do
It's what I do
#217 - Plagus
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(02/04/2013) [-]
1. We're not descendants of Abraham from 3,500 years ago, thus not required to follow their laws. If you think you're supposed to, it means you're a Jew, not a Christian.

2. We're not immediately stoned or killed by God in the event we do break these laws.

3. Jesus declared Moses's law meaningless with his first coming, so I don't get why Christians preach death with these Jewish practices.

4. Jesus did not come for you religious bigots, he came for the sinners, prostitutes, tax collectors.

5. Anyone can love a straight man. Can you learn to love a gay man? Jesus rus his holey hand down his face.

6. Why the **** does anyone care what other people are doing?

It's cool if you believe homosexuality is against your beliefs, but the bible does not say-

"Thou shall slap a dick out of a another man's mouth"
#223 to #217 - calawesome
Reply 0
(02/04/2013) [-]
At least someone gets it.
#234 to #217 - neoexdeath ONLINE
Reply 0
(02/04/2013) [-]
...Huh...Actually, its in mine...Right next to an ad for Big Boy and the NRA...No, wait, this is Glenn Beck's newsletter.
...Huh...Actually, its in mine...Right next to an ad for Big Boy and the NRA...No, wait, this is Glenn Beck's newsletter.
#220 to #217 - temporalguardian ONLINE
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(02/04/2013) [-]
I like you.
#257 - bleachedpheather
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(02/04/2013) [-]
well i agree with the bible. cowboys are a horrible people!!
#259 to #257 - thebritishguy [OP]
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(02/04/2013) [-]
and the Lord came unto the earth in his slippers and sayeth "Cowboys hath terrible fashion sense, thou sayeth I am a killer, how expanate those foot wear with thou hats, that eth murder!." - Sassy Peter: verse 2:14
#182 - Ishkalorr
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(02/04/2013) [-]
just thought id add this to the bible fight
#209 - felixjarl
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(02/04/2013) [-]
This image has expired
#263 to #209 - xXDeadpoolXx
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