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User avatar #20 - arearea (03/13/2013) [-]
"the Koran bans suicide, yet there's a loophole so big you can fit a 747 in it."
-sam harris
#240 to #20 - deezknuts (03/13/2013) [-]
Christianfag here

stop being an intolerant dick. You and I both know that muslims are not all terrorists and there are many parts of the Quran that talk about how ****** up it is to kill innocent people. Jihad is essentially self-defense.

Thank you and goodnight
User avatar #344 to #240 - arearea (03/13/2013) [-]
as much as i love arguing on the internet,
you sir are mistaken.
i am not grouping all muslims and terrorists together
i am simply repeating what sam harris said
i find it funny that the muslim terrorists who pledge their loyalty to the Koran
break a pretty solid rule stated in the koran

thank you and a better tommorrow

aslo, im unsure how self-defence is strapping a bomb on your chest and walking into a crowded area
#346 to #344 - deezknuts (03/13/2013) [-]
terrorists =/= people who follow the koran

other than that i totally understand that you're just quoting some fag

this is a dolphin, his name is miles
User avatar #311 to #240 - swifterly (03/13/2013) [-]
Jihad is as close to self defense like humans are close to achieving metamorphosis.
User avatar #288 to #240 - coolcalx (03/13/2013) [-]
Jihad can also be interpreted as a personal struggle
User avatar #95 to #20 - antinonymous (03/13/2013) [-]
You do realise that in the Quran that it is specifically stated that the things NOT to be done in physical Jihad include:
1) Not killing innocents that take are unarmed.
2) Not killing those who themselves have not attacked anyone
3) Do not destroy their places of worship
4) do not destroy their crops
etc. etc.
Then there are also requirements of Muslims to NOT MAKE THE FIRST STRIKE, and to be merciful and patient, to seek with as much strength as possible for a peaceful solution and if the enemy wants peace then stop fighting and make conditions for peace.

Please research things yourself and don't just rely on what people without knowledge have said.
User avatar #234 to #95 - swifterly (03/13/2013) [-]
Except they don't do that and they do indeed go around with their Jihad raping, pillaging, molesting, murdering, beating, burning, destroying, desecrating, violating, and ******* up everything. Some how I don't believe you friend.
User avatar #353 to #234 - zorororonoa (03/14/2013) [-]
You do realize that less than half of the muslims around are terrorist extremists right?
User avatar #357 to #353 - swifterly (03/14/2013) [-]
"terrorist extremists" They aren't terrorist extremists. They are practicing devout Muslims that do exactly as the Koran says. The Koran isn't a peaceful book, not at all. That's why, Muslim Countries and countries with Sharia-Law are human's rights disasters. But many people are either to ******* retarded to understand it or are just arrogant and ignorant and just don't wan't to. Simple as that. People thumb me down because they wanna be "accepting" and "loving". But you know, if I were to say "There is no God." or "Christianity is false and they've killed thousands." I would get a **** load of green thumbs. But no, a simple fact about Islam, a religion promoting to "kill the nonbelievers where ever you find them." will get rage and a lot of butthurt. Yeah, so less than half the Muslims around don't kill non-believers. Except when they all move somewhere and start acting like faggots, like Europe, and start taking people to court or demanding them dead for saying something against Islam, then it starts to become that another part of that are passive-agressive Jihadists. Seriously? They want to try to make it illegal to say anything negative about Islam or their prophet? Nah, I don't think so. Half of Muslims are not killin us yet, another half are passive-agressive, and another half are killing us and themselves.
#262 to #234 - anon (03/13/2013) [-]
If you don't believe him, do a little research. Don't believe everything you see in the internet. Read about Islam. Read the Quran if you want to be close to 100 % sure about Islam. Then you'll see what Islam is about. Don't trust propaganda that's against or for Islam. Do your own research. And just because some Muslims behave bad, then it doesn't mean that all Muslims are bad or that Islam is bad just because some Muslims are bad. And this doesn't only count for Islam, Christianity etc.. It counts for everything. Don't judge something/someone before you know the truth about it/them.
User avatar #310 to #262 - swifterly (03/13/2013) [-]
"Don't believe everything you see in the internet. Read about Islam. Read the Quran if you want to be close to 100 % sure about Islam." I've done my research and Islam is very violent. If you're a Christian or Jew in a Muslim nation in the Middle East you are going to live a horrible life and chances are you'll end up with your head cut off. I've done my research.
#317 to #310 - anon (03/13/2013) [-]
Then your research is poorly made. first of all, there isn't a a country, which follows the Islamic rules as they are meant to be. If you want an example of a true Islamic country, you'll have to go a few years back to Saladins time. There Christians and Jews were treated fairly. Today, many of the countries in the middle east aren't functioning. they are ether under a tyrant or they are at war. So to pick something or someone that represent Islam is hard. If you want to read about Muhammed's (Islam's) view on Jews (and on Christians), then read this:

http://en (dot) wikipedia (dot) org/wiki/Muhammad%27sviewson_Jews

Overall it's what Islam's view on Jews and Christians is. But there might be some details, where I don't agreed, as I haven't read it all.
User avatar #321 to #317 - swifterly (03/13/2013) [-]
No, my research is quite well. They are all Sharia-Law which is exactly how an Islamic country is supposed to function. Islam's view on Christians and Jews is to kill them where ever you find them. The only time the 3 lived in peace was when Muhammed didn't have enough power and Islam wasn't big enough. Plus, reading something on wikipedia, where people can free change what ever they want and bend facts? No thanks. Go practice your Taqiyya somewhere else.
User avatar #330 to #321 - lamarisagoodname (03/13/2013) [-]
Nobody claimed that muslim countries are the most peaceful of nations, that doesn't stop you from following your religion elsewhere. That's like saying "I'm not going to eat chinese food because the chinese government kills people" look at the Canadian and American communities, their white members, the numerous muslim universities in the United Kingdom and the Islamic history (both scientific and social) before you start making claims onto the religion itself.
User avatar #336 to #330 - swifterly (03/13/2013) [-]
I can make the claim onto the religion based on the religion itself. If a man had Nazi principles and ideals, but was kind and caring, does it make his principles or ideals better? No, they are still bad. You can make claim unto Islam because it's very, very clear.
If a religion is telling the followers to murder non believers, you can make the claim automatically.
#329 to #321 - anon (03/13/2013) [-]
Now you are just being ignorant. And in the Wikipedia page there are sources to many of the statements. But hey. If you aren't open to discuss this on an intellectual level, then I'm done wasting my time. Goodbye
User avatar #333 to #329 - swifterly (03/13/2013) [-]
You weren't trying to discuss anything on an intellectual level, you were bring a sewage pipe, spewing nothing but waste and **** . I know Islam well and I've studied. My parents have both lived in the Middle East and told me about Muslims and their violence when I was a child.
#40 to #20 - anon (03/13/2013) [-]
Quran. You spell it Quran. With a 'Q' not with a 'K' or a 'C' a 'Q'
User avatar #354 to #40 - zorororonoa (03/14/2013) [-]
I've seen it spelled both ways
User avatar #55 to #40 - churrundo (03/13/2013) [-]
It's not the original language, so it can be spelled in different ways...
User avatar #56 to #55 - churrundo (03/13/2013) [-]
In spanish it's CorĂ¡n
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