When someone gets mad at me for atheism. .. Just like religion, most people on the other side don't dislike or criticize you if you simply believe differently, but being harsh and outspoken and critical a
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User avatar #2 - douthit (05/01/2013) [-]
Just like religion, most people on the other side don't dislike or criticize you if you simply believe differently, but being harsh and outspoken and critical about it is what pisses off people on the other side.
#3 to #2 - teranin (05/01/2013) [-]
Perhaps...

on a side note, don't forget that the penalty for apostasy in Islam is death, regardless of outspokenness.
User avatar #11 to #3 - cheesewithmold (05/02/2013) [-]
That's not really 100% true. That's what comes from "hadith", which are just sayings that prophets or followers of the prophets have said to "guide" other followers.

There's nothing in the Quran that says to kill apostasies(spelling?).

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4850080.stm

And obviously ****** gonna change over time as well. Where at one time cutting off someone's fingers/hands for stealing was acceptable, it'd obviously be viewed as morally and legally wrong now.

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#31 to #1 - anon (05/02/2013) [-]
It goes perfectly with my music.
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User avatar #46 to #45 - christmouth (05/02/2013) [-]
I'm pretty sure hardcore religious people get upset with people being atheists, as they also are upset with everything else. This, of course, is a generalization.
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User avatar #49 to #47 - christmouth (05/02/2013) [-]
My bad then.
User avatar #42 - jackhammergr (05/02/2013) [-]
Also applies on little brother or sister who tries to fight you...
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#38 - samoaspider (05/02/2013) [-]
Meanwhile in the comments section
Meanwhile in the comments section
#48 - christmouth (05/02/2013) [-]
What I hate about about some religious people, are that they feel that are obliged to restrict other people ,because of their own beliefs. Like music and dancing are for the devil, so it must absolutely be banned from the public, this is an old dated example, I know.    
When I was a about ten years old(it was about the time Pokemon was very popular), all the kids in my village where collecting Pokemon cards and whatnot, but suddenly some parents said that the devil was in them, so they had to be discarded. This got to all the other kids, so they jumped on this "bandwagon" and began to burn their own things. It became like a miniature witch hunt, just because someone didn't want others having fun.
What I hate about about some religious people, are that they feel that are obliged to restrict other people ,because of their own beliefs. Like music and dancing are for the devil, so it must absolutely be banned from the public, this is an old dated example, I know.
When I was a about ten years old(it was about the time Pokemon was very popular), all the kids in my village where collecting Pokemon cards and whatnot, but suddenly some parents said that the devil was in them, so they had to be discarded. This got to all the other kids, so they jumped on this "bandwagon" and began to burn their own things. It became like a miniature witch hunt, just because someone didn't want others having fun.
#51 to #48 - mattkingg **User deleted account** (05/02/2013) [-]
Thank you very much for putting some instead of just "religious people" i know assume that you are a gentleman and a scholar
User avatar #55 to #48 - gwynn ONLINE (05/02/2013) [-]
Don't judge all of us by acts of others. Idea of religion is to crteate a perfect world with peace, love and tolerance. But some idiots jsut dont understand that and use it to dictade a way of living to others. (sorry for my gramar i have no tiem to check it)
User avatar #50 - bitchplzzz (05/02/2013) [-]
How do you know if someones atheist, dont worry, they'll tell you
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User avatar #54 to #50 - mutzaki (05/02/2013) [-]
I'm an atheist, and I never announce that I'm an atheist.
#56 to #54 - Turtleboner (05/02/2013) [-]
You just did.
#53 to #50 - mattkingg **User deleted account** (05/02/2013) [-]
they're becoming the new vegans of the internet.
User avatar #60 to #53 - spikethepony (05/02/2013) [-]
That would rather please me. They used to listen to logic, but now.... Their ideals have become obscured and replaced by being generally obnoxious.
#37 - anon (05/02/2013) [-]
like youd have the balls to do anything other then scowl and say use equally stupid arguments.
User avatar #4 - zama (05/01/2013) [-]
what is this show
User avatar #6 to #4 - camtwosixty (05/01/2013) [-]
johnny bravo
#5 to #4 - fearforme (05/01/2013) [-]
Aoi Bungaku series.

You're welcome.

User avatar #7 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/01/2013) [-]
Only thing that absolutely makes my blood boil about religion is how they brainwash their kids to reject science... Oh ya, to your face they'll say religion and science get along but then you talk to them long enough and well... the flood HAD to happen! Also evolution, impossible. All forms of carbon dating and other similar dating practices that age the earth at billions of years, completely fallible.

A book from 2000 years ago, totally ******* flawless.

But we have to respect their beliefs right?
#29 to #7 - sirbutterballs (05/02/2013) [-]
>Implying non-zealots reject science
>Implying non-zealots reject science
User avatar #30 to #29 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/02/2013) [-]
Oh dear. Round 3?

When I say religion I should have said by the book Christians (And Jews but folks seem to disagree with me even though I grew up in the community).

All better?
User avatar #32 to #30 - sirbutterballs (05/02/2013) [-]
Yes, and I know what you mean by the Jewish community. Had a Jewish buddy of mine who thought that there were 30 billion people on Earth and that the periodic table was all metals and nothing else. Anyway just want to make sure there ain't any generalization Roman-Catholic and scientific
User avatar #33 to #32 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/02/2013) [-]
Oddly enough the worst case I've met was a presbytarian. He's the guy i mention below. Suffice to say he thinks the flood involved our planet blowing up and reforming and that's how we went from pangaea to our current land formations.
#34 to #33 - sirbutterballs (05/02/2013) [-]
I'm trying to think of how that could actually happen with us keeping all the water on our planet
User avatar #35 to #34 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/02/2013) [-]
The answer is simple. Because Gawd.

it actually ended up becoming a joke in the common room cause while I was the only one vocal about it the second the guy left everyone would burst out laughing and we'd all joke about "zealots say the darndest things". Replace all our logic with god. It was truly a merry game.
User avatar #8 to #7 - cheesewithmold (05/02/2013) [-]
Yes, because you're human.
And if you want to set a good example for every other human out there, maybe you should start acting like one.
User avatar #10 to #8 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/02/2013) [-]
Oh yes, I set a fine example, I lead a fine life being a perfectly moral atheist. I just don't baby ignorance. I don't allow people to lie to themselves. I won't rip the bible out of their hands but I will fight them every time they dare present religion as fact. I will not leave them alone with their "beliefs" because their beliefs are bigoted and downright oppressive.

To be human is not to accept everything as valid. To be human is to sift through life determining what is and is not valid. You cannot say that a book written 2000 odd years ago which is claimed to be the word of some divine being is equally valid to peer reviewed objective research. If you do, you're embracing ignorance. I will never stoop that low just so people like me more. I will not compromise my objectivity to make the ignorant people feel better about themselves.
User avatar #13 to #10 - cheesewithmold (05/02/2013) [-]
Clearly you don't.
You don't have to baby ignorance, just ignore it. Let people believe what they want to believe, and don't force your own beliefs on others. Who are you to tell them what to and not to do? They can lie to themselves all they want, it's not your decision. You can influence their decision if it's a decision that affects everyone else or has a negative impact, but someone's religous beliefs doesn't, as long as they don't go to the extreme.

And you're going to fight them every time they "dare" present religion as fact? You don't have to. That's called being aggressive. Why not try to slowly and simply educate them? If someone says, "It rains because God says so!" you can simply reply by saying, "Technically, it rains because water from lakes, oceans, etc. evaporates. . .But if that's what you want to believe, fine." No need to be an asshole about it on your way.

People can say whatever the **** they want, it's not up to you to decide.

And it's pretty ironic that you say, "You cannot say that a book written. . ." or "I don't allow people to lie to themselves. . ." and then go on to say that religion is oppressive.

You're not acting like a human being. A human respects others beliefs, regardless of their own, and aims to advance and help society as much as they can. Look at extremely influential people over the time, like Ghandi or MLK. Did they discriminate? No. Did they judge other people based on their beliefs? No. What they did do is make a significant impact on not just society, but the world.

If you want make a positive difference, which is what every human should be aiming to do, you better learn to jump the first hurdle and treat humanity as a whole. And you obviously haven't.
User avatar #17 to #13 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/02/2013) [-]
Force my own beliefs on others? Is it forcing my beliefs when I see a christian remark on how gays shouldn't be married because what they do is unnatural and I spend a while explaining to them how the biology of the human mind works with regards to hormones and chemical signals which relate to the perception of gender? Is it forcing my beliefs when I take my Jewish mother to the museum of natural history and introduce her to dinosaurs then help her understand as she's crying over the fact that she'd been told that dinosaurs were never real and only pictures and we're on a 7000 year old planet? Is it forcing my beliefs when my muslim friend had an arranged marriage which she didn't want to a man several years her elder for communal reasons and I voice my distaste at the practice and offer her support?

I guess I didn't make my position clear enough. It makes my blood boil when people brainwash their kids and it also makes my blood boil when they present religious doctrine on the same plane as science. Because apparently because the christian bible calls homosexuality a choice, the biological evidence against that is less valid, right? At what point is their right to practice their own religion overwhelming our right to self determination, to living our personal lives as we so choose without affecting others?

Sorry, most of my reply was to paragraph #1, gonna be brief on the others

2) I do, I'm just in a sour mood tonight

3) Yes, they can, still makes my blood boil and I won't let it slide if they try to impose policy on it.

4) Are you saying that a book written 2000 years ago IS as valid as peer reviewed scientific papers? Validity is not something everything shares equally. That's what I'm trying to get across.

5) I will not respect a man whose belief is that all children must be raped once a week. I know that is reducio ad absurdium but some religious practices are downright absurd and infringe on the rights of others.

6) I don't understand this last comment.
User avatar #21 to #17 - cheesewithmold (05/02/2013) [-]
(cont.) but to make that difference you have to look at humanity as a whole, as in not seperate jews from christians, or muslims from hindus, or atheists from lutherans, or whatever.

There is absolutely no benefit from looking at a jew or atheist and thinking "wow, I hate that guy's beliefs so much so that I think I should go over there and tell him he's wrong about everything", which is what the majority of atheists and religious people ON THE INTERNET do.
User avatar #20 to #17 - cheesewithmold (05/02/2013) [-]
1) You didn't make your position clear, and it still isn't very clear.
You think I don't get angry because some religious people don't like gay marriage, and impose that on others? That's why I said don't bother them unless their beliefs affect society/other humans. And you made it seem as if you just go around telling people who are talking about their religion on how they're wrong. That's not how one should act, and if you don't act that way, good!

And as long as you don't do it in an aggressive way, it's fine to explain things like how hormones work, or whatever you want. And if they respond in an aggressive way back, just walk away. I never said that you shouldn't educating someone is one of the best things you can do. You just have to do it properly. The same applies for your mother. And for your muslim friends, I'm fairly sure that muslims can arrange for divorce based on the laws from their holy book. That's a cultural thing.

3) I too get angry when people just flat out deny evolution. Sure some aspects of it aren't 100% proven, but others have been seen time and time again. But I don't feel the need to bring it up at any point. Again, if they try to impose policy on it, then it's wrong for them to do so, and you should say it.

4) And no, I'm not saying a book written 2,000 years ago is valid, let alone AS valid as scientific journals or what have you, but what I am saying is that it's not right for you to say "I don't allow people to lie to themselves." and then go to say that religion is oppressive. Change your own views before you go try and change others.

5) I said this twice by now. If their beliefs don't cause any harm to society or any other human being, let them be. If it does, then obviously it's wrong. There's no disagreement between me and you when it comes to saying that beliefs like "raping children once a week" is wrong, inhumane, and downright disgusting.

6) I'm saying that the goal for any human should be to make a difference (cont.)
#61 - bakinboy (05/10/2013) [-]
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User avatar #58 - ScottP (05/02/2013) [-]
Do you really think people would do that?

Get mad at other people on the Internet?
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