Shonen Compared

"plot"

Sadly enough it does become a plot point

that was the dumbest part of the series for me. even the davy back fight wasnt as dumb as that.

The Davy Back Game was actually very clever. It was harmless fun that expanded the universe and the relationships between the different pirate gangs whilst giving the main characters something interesting to do each. It didn't hurt the rest of the series but it did chew up a lot of pointless time.

Sanji's nose is unforgivable though. There could have been any number of reasons why someone needed a blood transfusion... maybe show Hordy and his gang as being something of a threat and wounding one of the weaker characters like Usopp or Robin or Nami... Oda tried too hard there.

i thought 6+ episodes was way too much. i think 2-3 wouldve been perfect.

Agreed. That wasn't worth a month's worth of manga time.

Well, you can say the same about bleach

i call bullshit on the international comittee of bullshut

Except when the show started they were all around 15, now they are about 20. I would say thats an acceptable amount of growth. By anime standards anyways.

They have only aged by two years actually, they didn't age at all before the timeskip

To be honest, that's been there the whole time, but they don't play it up like they do on some shows *cough fairy tail cough*

ya because 2 FUCKING YEARS WENT BY

Holy shit, what's the source of that gif??

One Piece Movie: Strong World

Damn right

Just finished eneies lobby. fucking loving it so far

you my friend have some amazing things ahead of you

say wot m8?

OP is always over the top and it ALWAYS focuses on the other character. Luffy straight up admits he is nothing without them, whereas the 3 other MC's are overpowered as fuck.

And that's why One Piece is still the fucking best!

why... why wold she do that.

"It continues evolving but never goes over the top" I don't think it can get any more over the top than it already is.

When I said that I meant like jumping the shark. An example being DBZ having frieza as this ultimate being then Cell then Majin Buu, or Bleach having Ichigo constantly gaining a new ridiculous power. Luffy gets stronger but its always foreshadowed that he will need to get stronger for the future things he has to face

there's nothing wrong with side characters getting to have the spotlight now and then, bleach overdoes it with some of the secondary characters i admit, but i still appreciate the time spent on the lesser characters i love. Hisagi Shuhei ftw

I love seeing some depth to secondary characters but Bleach and Naruto have given more and more focus to the secondarys to the point that the main characters are almost forgotten. This is why the war with Aizen was three years long when it could have been shorter

Actually the problem's a little different to that. It's not that they give focus to the side characters so much as they have too many side-characters to focus on. Naruto started out well enough. First there were 9 then in came Lee, Neji and Ten Ten (who has done nothing of any worth in the series) and then Gaara, Temari and Puppet guy.

That's a nice, robust cast and it shows it's worth in the Chunin exams where most of the characters get a time to really shine and especially chasing down Sasuke. The problem comes from the fact that as time went on the story began dropping the side-characters in Naruto's case and then adding more and more in the case of Bleach.

Naruto's story got more and more naruto-centric meaning we had to wait a while before we got to see any of the side-characters really do anything. When we get to the Battle for Konoha arc very few of the side-characters get a chance to shine with Hinata coming the closest to being important (... let's forget that nobody mentions the confession of love nor the selfless sacrifice thing again for now) with the others doing very little. Konohamaru gets a swing but even then it's all down to Naruto to defeat all the Pains.

At that point Naruto has become so strong that nobody else can keep up with him so throwing more time to the side-characters is pointless as they'll all get shoved aside as Naruto's problems are too big for them and vice-versa.

Bleach though puts a reasonable amount of time into most of it's many, many side characters. 10 humans, 13 captains, 13 lieutenants, various seated members, 10 espada + fraccion + other arrancar and now Quincys. The only time we saw them tone down the side-characters was in the fullbringer arc which I maintain could have been the best arc in the series if it hadn't been rushed out by discontented fans.

OP gives things time to breathe and introduces things at their own pace and well in advance for the audience to acclimatise. It's good writing.

One Piece is still incredible long and the entire plot of the show hasn't moved much since the beginning. It's a bad thing but it's also a good thing because it means One Piece can only get better and if you enjoy long anime then even better.

I disagree about it not moving but I partially see what your taking about. And atleast all that extra time is spent either building onto the story's world and its characters rather than spinning its wheels with overly long fights and pointlessly long fillers( if you watch the anime)

Well of course the general story of Luffy trying to get to One Piece has moved a lot. He's more than half way there in fact. I meant more to do with the past and also what is happening in the present, rev army/shanks etc. There is so much that we want to know but we'll have to wait a long time before we get told any of it.
To be fair I'd love to rewatch One Piece because it's a lot of fun and I'm not too bothered about them not telling us everything.

Oh yeah, its going to be a few years before we learn about Shanks, the Revolutionarys, Blackbeard, the world goverment, the void century, etc but I excited for when we do and we atleast get bits and pieces rather than huge exposition dumps

we already know somewhat about the void history because of the ohara episodes, and i feel that i already know enough about shanks and that they don't really need to elaborate on him too much more.

god you people never shut the fuck up about those other people never shutting the fuck up about anime

Our apologizes for discussing something we enjoy

Funnyjunk is incredibly bi-polar. I've just gotten used to it by now.

Sure, its called going the NSFW board, just like how this is on the animemanga channel

it's cool mate, me too

I haven't even watched GT though...

I don't really care about DBZ one way or the other and I went on animemanga.

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The fuck are you talking about?

No, I don't. The only times I post as anon is when I forget to log in, and I don't have any other accounts in use.

Okay, I guess.

It makes me sad that people hate Naruto. I love Naruto.

Jesus Christ, it was a whole season. A whole god damn filler season. That was ridiculous.

i also hate those Psuedo-fillers they are doing, where they are continuing the story why having flashbacks in the episode.

The ones with that stupid fucking kid who controls the weather... If I didn't know when the fillers were to end, I might have just stopped watching it at that point and leave it for a few months so I can just skip the shit.

I watch one here and there, i skipped over that weather kid almost completely though.

I second your comment. i also liked bleach up to when they killed Aizen.

Ok fine. "Imprisoned Aizen". nearly the same, he's out of the picture, because that's where i stopped watching.

IMHO Naruto is an overrated generic shonen with a mediocre plot and unlikeable characters, But at least the fight scenes are pretty good.

That's why I do everything on a 5 year lag.
Shows: Able to skip filler, know in advance which shows are likely to be good
Games: Same steadily advancing gaming experience, never have to buy a top-end PC
Movies: Available in whatever format I want to view them in

All: much, much cheaper.

The downside is spoilers, but I couldn't avoid that even if I bought things the day after they came out.

DB was always stupid, but did cool things first and we were in awe, hence we will always have a sweet spot for it.

Bleach never had a really good plot and the fights weren't that smart either, but it all looked very cool and that what kept us before the screens. I'm sure that the new arcs will pick up the pace.

Naruto us awesome and the only reason to hate it is because of the slow parts. If you are smart like me and wait for a big pack of non-filler episodes you'll be just fine.

One Piece is freaking awesome, no question about it.

more like: everybody loves dragonball z . most people don't even watch dragonball

Also, as far as I can tell, no one hates Dragonball Z. The only time I've ever seen someone proclaim their own hatred for it (rather than pointing out all the other they assume hate it), is when I post a comment like this, saying that no one hates it, in which it's impossible to tell if they're actually being genuine because that's just what people do. For example:
Me: No one hates chocolate. It's great.
Anon: I totally hate chocolate.
People are constantly going on about how much others hate Dragonball Z, but where the hell are they getting their information from? Certainly not actual haters, that's for sure.

And how many 30 year olds have you asked about their tastes? 40 year olds? 50?
At 18 you live in a very narrow world. Don't think that because it's broader than when you were 15 that its scope is in any way exhaustive.

DBZ takes Disney-tier violence to the next level by actually having contact and some sort of consequence. The problem is that that is only "amazing" if all you know is Disney. When you get older and are now exposed to violence in a social/psychological context (where it gets its meaning), you just can't go back anymore. DBZ is, "Dumbfuck and his cheerleading squad fight purely invented villains." 300 episodes of filler -- even the fights are 99% filler.

Violence is the final means to resolve a conflict. In adult entertainment, the conflict (story) is the point and the violence is merely a plot element. But in DBZ the enemies are created for no reason but to generate a fight. The violence is the only point. So you have completely scripted violence with no meaning after. The enemies had no logical place in the universe, no path, they're just there, and only there to be overcome by Goku. And Goku isn't real -- he's a brainless faggot who would never be able to make it in society. He's only there to be the clueless idealist to fight the bad guys.

It is banal and tedious.

Bitching about Dragon Ball Z not dealing with social/psychological context is stupid. Why? Because it's a gag action action comic made for kids. Expecting adult complexity in something like DBZ is laughably moronic.

Dragon Ball Z isn't complex, but it wasn't supposed to be. It's like a roller coaster. You let it take you through all of it's twists and turns without having a care in the world.

Complaining about action being the first resort? In an action series? Yeah, seems legit.

You still believe that the enemies were there just for a fight? All of the main villains, excluding maybe Buu, had reasons behind their motives, and didn't just fight Goku for no reason whatsoever. Meaningless? The fight between Goku and Frieza meant avenging the Saiyan race and all of the other people Frieza killed. The fight with Cell meant deciding the fate of the Earth.

"He's only there to be the clueless idealist to fight the bad guys."? .......And Ichigo isn't? Regardless, Goku is still a likable character, unlike Mr. Bland Ichigo. He's not supposed to be a realistic character.

You are one of the most hypocritical people I have ever seen. Bleach resorts to violence first, but it's perfectly okay when it does it. Bleach has terrible amounts of filler, but it's okay when it does it. Bleach is just as shallow as DBZ is, but it's okay when it does it. This is your way of thinking, and it's pretty stupid.

>drawmypenis
>didn't read

"Disney -tier violence." My sides!

How cute. And boring.

Aww it's so cute.

Dude, if you're going to put a picture to prove that there are more violent and gory scenes in different anime, then at least go for something violent. That way I can enjoy masturbating to it.

You missed the point.

Then I shall get on point, baby man.

First off, you can seriously go and fuck yourself for all the "You haven't obtained the grand wisdom that I have in your puny years, child!!!" condescension.
Secondly, Dragonball Z is supposed to be simple. A guy with magic powers getting beat down and fighting his way back is something that people of all ages can enjoy.
Also, you say that DBZ's enemies were "created for no reason to generate a fight". You could say that about any fucking villain in anything, for example, "Bane was created for no reason but to fight Batman.".

Sorry, but the bad guys in Batman actually have stories.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bane_(comics)

As does Dragonball Z. Frieza was a galactic emperor would ruled over many planets and was going to planet Namek to invade and take over that planet as well, but Goku and the gang step in to stop him. It's not all that complex, but it's still a story. It isn't just "Muhahahaha! I am evil and will kill you all! Die!" as you seem to think.

That's a position, not a story. Story would be how he got there; why he wanted the position. Instead we have, "I am a bad guy and I head the bad guys."
Seriously, the Rowdieruff Boys from the Powerpuff Girls have more of a backstory than that, and they were in, what, two episodes?

You don't have to trace a characters ancestry back to the point of the big bang for it to be part of a story. Also, I believe Frieza was acting as galactic emperor to follow in the footsteps of his father, King Cold.

>anon replying to >24 hour DBZ content.
Give it up, drawmypenis.

I love all of Bleach, all of Naruto, and was never much of a fan of One Piece, so each to his own, I suppose.

I dislike the Dragon Ball series, never saw the appeal
I like the entirety of Bleach
I don't mind Naruto
One Piece is my favourite anime

I only liked the teacher guy with the eyepatch. That guy was ballin'

Jarl Ballin?

You can use the YouTube thing to post the actual video.

I know, but I have the gif, so I use it.

Alrighty then.

Manslayer is awesome.

"Holler if you need me"

I'm pretty sure One Piece likes One Piece the best.

Sir, you know me too well

Watch out. Kon is on the loose. unrelated gif

Got anymore .gifs from bleach?

Just google "Bleach Gifs"

I've got some.

will the anime ever return?

all good things come to an end at some point... ^^

There's more to anime than just half naked chicks with big "plot" so I couldn't care less.






But you're entitled to your own opinion anon and I respect that.

and fighting
don't forget the fighting

Hence why I said action.

Code Geass is one of the best shows ive ever watched. no show ive ever watched before made me go "i want that guy to die...actually no nvm i want him to live... NO! HOW COULD HE DO THAT?? HE NEEDS TO FUCKING DIE RIGHT NOW!!!!!...NOO!!! HE NEEDS TO LIVE NOW! HOW CAN THEY KILL HIM OFF NOW?? D:" if you've watched season 2, you know exactly who im talking about too. its just such and amazing show with perfect character development and a great story, amazing action scenes, there was fan service for a total of 5 minutes throughout both seasons but it was done well. It is an amazing fucking show, 10/10

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sauce?

No idea, just saved the template and asked for someone to put anon onto it.

saved

Is this one better, lightweight?

Take this one too

I'd regale ye and give some gifs, but i'm a tad mentally drained. Ye got about 468+ to catch up on. Ye've made a great decision, mind you there are very pointless fillers and maybe that dragged on story arc that has a bit too much crying and fan service. But I envy your late watching, you get to binge without waiting for new release for a bit.

Have this

he just gets more people nobody leaves

He doesn't get rid of his current crew members he just gets new ones as well.

ooh well, thats a relief!... thanks

Up until now, everybody who officially joined his crew, is still there.
Hope this is good enough for you.

does that mean the crew just adds up and doesnt "change" ???
or do the guys leave and never come back...?

As of now there are eight members of the crew including Luffy.
He never loses any members, just gains them.

SPOILERS (sort of):



He does sort of lose them for a two year training period in which they're all separated, but after that they're all back together.

thank you very much, i kinda knew he had to go train for a long period alone since my cousin told me about how much he loves one peice and told me a bit about luffy and his gang and eventually he got me to watch it, and so far im loving it. thanks again!.

No problem. Watch it slowly though lol, the show is still ongoing so it's only being updated about once a week.

yeah lol, but it has like 603 episodes and im still at episode 79!... but right now i love everything about this show, but i was wondering about the movies, i've seen it has like 7 or 9 movies but in what order do they come? do the episodes and the movies have any connection? im sorry if im asking too much...

I haven't watched any of the movies actually, but judging from titles / synopsis I don't think they have any direct relation to the series aside from being in particular locations.

alright then! thanks again

actually movie 10 is considered cannon said so by the author of one piece.

im sorry but... what do you mean "considered cannon"...?

sorry, canon.

There are some people who travel with luffy and helping him while not being a part of his crew. Sometimes they join luffy, sometimes they think it's better to split up and follow their own dreams, so it kinda changes but no major changes, you'll understand everything after the Alabasta arc.

that really helps, thank you!

You're welcome, and just a heads up, the Alabasta arc is one of the best arcs there is in my opinion ;)

haha awesome! cant wait to see whats waiting

WOW.... thats alot... i actually considered skipping the fillers but it didnt occur to me that it would take that long to catch up to the current episodes...
about vivi, i understand that she might end up staying in alabasta since shes the princess and might become the queen or something like that...
thank you for your reply! helped alot

FINALLY! I felt like I was the only one here who loves this anime.

Pic unrealated

be honest, the chimera ant ark is just bad, i read the manga so i can tell you, the part final of this ark is very nice and the following too, but this one is just boring to me, sry. but nevertheless the anime and the manga are awesome. i even prefer the 2011 version over the 1999 but thats mostly because the fights are made better and the characters development are put aside. For this i read the manga^^

but the manga stops soon after the chimera arc so that made me sad

yeah, BUT even the bit after i think was more awesome compared to the hole chimera arc..... but in person i liked greed Island the most, dont know why, it was just..... just WHAMSIKADABRAS if you get what i want to say

there will be more its just on a fucking long hiatus
i think

the Chimera ants were a way for them to introduce the Dark Continent and kill off some characters Mainly netero

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT i know the manga has been out for a long time but was it really necessary to add a huge spoiler in there?

dude like its been a year sence the last chapter has been put out

Not everyone reads the manga, a lot of people are getting into it now because of the reboot. Its just unnecessary to do it. And now I know, ya douche

your welcome because you know a character that is only in what 10 episodes is of allot of importance