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#133 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
man...anime has gotten so bad.   
I hate watching anime...except for a few.
man...anime has gotten so bad.
I hate watching anime...except for a few.
#365 to #133 - voltwaffle (09/11/2013) [-]
I agree with you on some level. I don't like yaoi, the overflow of harem, or needless fanservice. I guess I can see why some people like it, but I can't stand it. I love hotblooded, manly anime: Gurren Lagann, G Gundam, Outlaw Star, Dragonball, etc.
I agree with you on some level. I don't like yaoi, the overflow of harem, or needless fanservice. I guess I can see why some people like it, but I can't stand it. I love hotblooded, manly anime: Gurren Lagann, G Gundam, Outlaw Star, Dragonball, etc.
User avatar #395 to #365 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
#138 to #133 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
Yeah, so bad man. Classics are the best.
User avatar #581 to #138 - newbrony (09/11/2013) [-]
What's the first one on the right, if I may ask?
#623 to #581 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
User avatar #625 to #624 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
Ending was bad.
User avatar #626 to #625 - newbrony (09/11/2013) [-]
Aren't they all?
#627 to #626 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
No, I mean many people thought the ending was very lackluster. Well, the last episode or two. It was like a stepping stone of an even bigger story being cut off right there with a big End card.
User avatar #628 to #627 - newbrony (09/11/2013) [-]

THAT kind of bad ending.

**** .
#629 to #628 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
With as few spoilers as possible (the show is pretty episodic, anyway):

Koko has a big plan. Jonah has to pick if he'll help her.

Jonah decides to help. The End.

We don't get to see what happens past that.
User avatar #630 to #629 - newbrony (09/11/2013) [-]
Maybe they're open to season 2?
User avatar #631 to #630 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
That was the ending to season 2. That was also the end of the manga.
User avatar #632 to #631 - newbrony (09/11/2013) [-]
Maybe it's one of those "make up your own ending" **** ?
User avatar #633 to #632 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
It's not.
User avatar #634 to #633 - newbrony (09/11/2013) [-]
So, conclusion is, it's just plain old **** .
User avatar #635 to #634 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
The ending? Yes. The rest of the show? No. How to Deal With Voschod-6 (the Jormungand way)
User avatar #409 to #138 - daentraya (09/11/2013) [-]
Whats the last one to the right?
User avatar #639 to #409 - christmouth (09/11/2013) [-]
It's called Usagi Drop and it's wonderful. I highly recommend it.
User avatar #650 to #639 - daentraya (09/12/2013) [-]
Yes, another guy told me the name. I have been d'aaawing for some hours now. Makes me stupidly happy
#489 to #409 - rednax ONLINE (09/11/2013) [-]
Looks like it could be this one: anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=8211 (In case my link gets blocked, google Usagi Drop)
User avatar #617 to #489 - daentraya (09/11/2013) [-]
Seriously, thank you. I have been d'aaawing for most of classes at school
User avatar #490 to #489 - daentraya (09/11/2013) [-]
Yesss, that's what it was called. Thank you, kind sir
User avatar #142 to #138 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
I don't like the animes that are centered around "cute little girls" and really have nothing to them...
User avatar #176 to #142 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
If you like I could suggest about... let's say five anime that came out in the last ten years that are magnificent and make a solid case for each one. (I could probably do more but 2000 characters and all.)
User avatar #245 to #176 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
Many anime right now are really bad.
However, as I said there are still few out there that are quality.

If you could recommend me some, that would be great
User avatar #276 to #245 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Eureka Seven: Studio Bones (same guys that made Fullmetal Alchemist and Soul Eater) on the top-est of top form.

Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica: An anime about magical girls that took the anime world by it's balls. Just watch it. Three episodes in you'll never forget it. All twelve and... let's leave that to you to decide.

The Rebuild of Evangelion movies: An alternate version of the Evangelion story with money and talent poured into every aspect of it. The series takes so much care in it's details from writing to sound design that you will never be able to forget these movies.

Shingeki no Kyoujin: Now, this one is sort of cheating for me since I don't watch the anime. I find it to be needlessly overdramatic with it's one saving grace being the work put into the action scenes and sound design (when they're not going too over the top at least). I read the manga but a lot of people love the anime so I'd suggest it, if not the anime then the manga.

Kingdom: On the topic of manga. Read this one. Read this manga. Read it hard. Read it good. It is one of the best shounen out there and combines fantastic art, storytelling and plot into a manga that comes out as well polished as a katana.

(The anime is atrocious. Avoid at all costs.)

Katanagatari: Style and substance in equal measure. It's not a magnificent story but the visuals and the climax will linger in your head along with it's stellar music.

That's just 5 (and the manga) enjoy.
User avatar #294 to #276 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
Eureka Seven...was bad in my opinion. Saw a few episodes and I couldn't do it.

As for Mahou Shoujo, I'm usually not into that kind of stuff. However, this series was actually morbid as **** and I realized was not the same as the others. Saw the whole show. I like how it took a happy go lucky girl show and brought it down to reality/hell.

I was never an Evangelion fan, though I agree it was good. So, mostly I will not watch it.

Shingeki is definitely one of my favorites in the present.

Kingdom, I've heard good things about and will look in I usually read most of the animes in manga form before stepping foot into anime. First it has to have a good manga, then I give the anime a chance. Though, most times the anime is just terrible.

Katanagatari doesn't look like the feel and type that i like... Seems to feminine to me. However, I'll give it a go.
User avatar #299 to #294 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
I do have to disagree with you on Eureka Seven, as I personally feel it's one of the best anime on the market by far. Perhaps I saw something you didn't or vice/versa or maybe our tastes differ. Either way, I'm more than willing to chat about our differing opinions (because what's the point in having them otherwise.)

I'll point out that the elements of Evangelion that failed have been removed in the rebuild and replaced with some astoundingly good work on all parts. If you've not seen at least the first movie I say give it a shot as the disparity between the series is astonishing.

Katanagatari is very different in a lot of ways to everything else on the market. It's style in both tone and art are heavily reminiscent of traditional japanese art-styles updated to fit more modern sensibilities. However it is a polarising anime to be sure. There are a lot of elements that could turn you onto or away from it depending on the cinematic values you hold.
User avatar #398 to #299 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
I shall give Evangelion a try.

The thing that turned me away from Eureka Seven was that...it always ended up being this emo, sad junk. Oh no this happened....it was all my fault...i can't do this...
If I wanted to watch some poor kid's sob story, I'd look in the mirror.

As for Katanagatari, I really like the way they seem to be doing a new take on cinematography. Alas, I can't tell just from pictures...it just seems very feminine. I will give it a try though.

Any other recommendations?
User avatar #615 to #398 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Eureka Seven is somewhat emotional but it tends rarely to dwell on these things. Problems are raised, brooded over and solved one after the other along the path of the two lead characters understanding one another.

It's not like Renton and Eureka never do anything (as is the case with a lot of emo anime with kid leads) rather they face very relatable issues about doing them and when they do do them they react in believable manners, as do all of the characters. It's certainly not a continual story of triumph but it's not one of constant failure either. It's similar to life in that it travels up and down repeatedly, always changing the conflicts by modifying existing ones, resolving older ones and establishing new ones and it ends on a very typical anime ending but a very deserved one packed with emotion.

I'll also recommend Trigun if you've not seen it. It is a small and very entertaining anime that lasts only 26 episodes. It follows one of the most iconic and surprisingly deep main characters in anime and doesn't hesitate to pull it's punches when the latter half of the series comes around, with one of the BEST villains in anime history (I'd love to go into detail about why he is so good but I'd hate to spoil it for you.)
User avatar #640 to #615 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
I'll give Eureka a go then....I'll come back and hunt you down if I don't like it!

As for Trigun, read it and I enjoyed it to a certain point. Though, I think they really ended it with questions that were presented and never really answered.
User avatar #644 to #640 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
This is one of the few cases where the anime is far superior to the manga. Whilst the manga is very open and bloody about how things are going down, the anime leans more towards subtlety and Legato has a much bigger and more harrowing part than in the manga.
User avatar #645 to #644 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
I shall give you thumbs for your suggestions and our great conversation we had.
User avatar #647 to #645 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Anytime, old chap.
#491 to #398 - rednax ONLINE (09/11/2013) [-]
Try School Days. I know, it's a trash animé, but the final episode makes it all worth it in so many ways.
User avatar #638 to #491 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
I'll have to pass on school days...
#292 to #276 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
Rebuilds are basically confirmed to be sequels, and the writing has been under heavy scrutiny.
User avatar #295 to #292 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Eh, so? It is not what a film is, but what you take from it that is important. At the moment they're not sequels, rather a re-imagining because that's what I want them to be. **** authorial intent. Doesn't mean squat. Everything in the series is sharper, crisper and more condensed.

On the writing side of things I don't pay too much mind to how little sense it makes. I know the story Evangelion is attempting to convey already and I intend to wait until the series is closed before I begin to really scrutinise it. One the surface they are magnificent shows of animation, character and story with a hefty dose of the macabre. What they are underneath I will discover in my own time.
#301 to #295 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
What I mean is they're requiring prior knowledge, such as Kaworu. To someone new to Rebuild pretty much nothing he says makes sense (albeit, with the writing it doesn't make as much sense to us either) , nor why he's interested in Shinji. And again, with the Angels and Evas. They are never explained in Rebuild, but explained in NGE. Not to mention SEELE isn't touched on at all but they're so important. There are numerous examples of this.

Anno's "re-imagining" quote can be thrown out the window after all these years, considering the other part of it has been changed. Originally, he said the first three movies would be remakes of the TV series with a re-imagined ending as the fourth movie. But during the 1.0, there were major changes, and 2.0 was basically 70% new and 30% old, and that old was re-imagined. 3.0 was 100% new and so will 4.0.
His quote prior to the first movie ever being released is null at this point.
#311 to #301 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Again I'm gonna have to go with "so?". See, as I said I'm reserving judgement for the final movie and even then the plot isn't the important aspect of the anime.

The two important factors are:
1) The characters.
2) The presentation.

The characters got a major upgrade this time around and the presentation is out of this world. We know nothing about what is going on but I'd argue that only makes us more aware of Shinji's state of mind at the moment. Going into it people may be lost but the point is they're clearly not made to focus on the plot or the exposition, rather to fix the amazingly broken characters that made the first series so infamous.

What is more, I dare you to find more than five people who understands everything about Evangelion from information they got from the first series alone. Everything from first impact to the tree of life to Shinji's mother. It is all very cryptic at the best of times and requires a good deal of condensation to really understand what is going on. The original series was cobbled together so awkwardly and the exposition was so far apart that most people left Evangelion convinced it was something magnificent but couldn't for the life of them understand why.

So the lack of exposition is firstly premature, as the series isn't over. But it's also a long-standing complaint and one that I don't feel interrupts the most important aspects of the series to a great extent.

I don't see what the second paragraph was about though, as it seems to just clarify my point of "re-imagining" as opposed to sequels. I don't mean to sound harsh but what you stated there is essentially a textbook re-imagining. Keep some of the old, familiar elements but do something different with them. If it were a re-tread it would be different and much closer to the source material but re-imaginings get their name because the writer's gone footloose and fancy free with the original.
#313 to #311 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
I just realized I got myself into another one of these pointless arguments. Forget it. You don't care.
User avatar #350 to #313 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
*I don't
User avatar #325 to #313 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Hrm? See, you seem to be under the impression that this is an argument whilst I'm under the impression this is a debate, hence why I put such detail into highlighting my points and at no point call you a faggot.

If I did not care I would not be making my case with such detail going into elements of tone and bringing in external elements that affect the criticism I place upon the series.

I feel you may have read something between the lines that wasn't there to be read or at least not intended.
User avatar #331 to #325 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
Other than there being very little difference between debate and argument , as debate is just a form of argument (and as debates are made by having a pre-existing framework and not being on the fly), this topic comes up at least once or twice a day on /a/ and I'm sick of seeing it so I'm not going to bother. There's no point.
User avatar #336 to #331 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Well unless you personally enjoy the exchanging of viewpoints. See, if you run into my point of view often (at least twice daily even) I'd ask how often you run into your own opinion on the subject since I don't frequent /a/ and I'd like to know where the majority opinion lies and why it lies there.

Of course, this is optional. But please don't consider all arguments pointless, as it is only pointless when you argue with and against a closed mind. (Something i'd like to think neither of us has on our person.)
User avatar #399 to #336 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
Don't pay attention to this ass hat yusay.
He's only here to argue and do much of nothing else
User avatar #344 to #336 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
On /a/? Of those outspoken, the largest camp is sequel theory (especially after 3.0), with the second largest being unsure and the smallest being a definite stand on no connection.

It's that I don't want to type this all out for an hour and I'd much rather do something else like watch what I was watching.
User avatar #613 to #344 - snowshark (09/11/2013) [-]
Eh, that is an understandable position.
User avatar #250 to #245 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
>Many anime right now are really bad.

Do you even watch anime at all? This season has been the best this year.
User avatar #259 to #250 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
As you may have guessed, I've stopped watching most anime.
Therefore, I may not be aware of the good anime currently
User avatar #260 to #259 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
Then it's probably not a good idea to say that they're all bad.
User avatar #262 to #260 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
Well, now we know you're a true ass hat here.
I just admitted that I may be in the wrong and that I could be unaware of good shows.

"derr herrr, you shouldn't say that because you haven't seen the good ones"
oh gee, I'm sorry Captain Obvious Ass Hat.
#264 to #262 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
Yeah, because I totally said, " **** off faggot, you don't know what you're talking about", right? Did you also read that in some sneering and pompous voice and attributed that to me?

Don't be a prissy little brat next time someone says anything to you over the internet.
#268 to #264 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
hahaha, I'm sorry.   
I got bored and wrote that to see what would happen next.
hahaha, I'm sorry.
I got bored and wrote that to see what would happen next.
User avatar #153 to #142 - yusay (09/11/2013) [-]
Then don't watch them.
User avatar #248 to #153 - kwanzalord (09/11/2013) [-]
I only watch the few that I like.
Who watches something they hate?
It's like complaining about Justin Bieber and going to his concert.
If I see that I don't like it, of course I will not continue watching it
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