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User avatar #5477 - nimba (23 hours ago) [-]
Edgar Allan Twain - wrote books about happy go lucky young boys being terrified by psychological gothic horrors
User avatar #5478 to #5477 - dasistwunderbar ONLINE (22 hours ago) [-]
Mark Austen, wrote a book about challenging all sensibilities, all at once, forever.
User avatar #5479 to #5478 - nimba (21 hours ago) [-]
Whereas Oscar Hemingway wrote about suspiciously effeminate men being repetitively ravaged by wild animals
User avatar #5475 - whathappenedtofj (12/27/2014) [-]
Britfag here, doing a Bachelor's degree in English next September. Anyone who's been through the process got any tips? What to read, how to best use time (i.e. balance reading between getting a job and drinking/shagging) etc etc.

Also, currently working my way through Don Quixote. Anybody else read it?
User avatar #5473 - ilikethisusername ONLINE (12/27/2014) [-]
i'm looking for a book maybe you guys can help me with it. it's about this kid who lives in a family with a grandfather who has Alzheimer's disease. the kid is embarrassed of his grandfather because he always gets lost and so on. i remember a specific part of the book where the grandfather is at the boy's birthday party and he forgets to wear pants and embarrasses the boy. i don't wanna spoil it anymore for people who want to read it maybe, but any help?
User avatar #5472 - pixmantle (12/27/2014) [-]
Let's Gripe about Writing (Part 1/3)
#5471 - oborawatabinost (12/27/2014) [-]
Read Fight Club   
   
   
It's a fucking masterpiece, in my humble opinion.   
   
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Read Fight Club


It's a fucking masterpiece, in my humble opinion.

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#5466 - ronjeremysweiner ONLINE (12/25/2014) [-]
any ideas to develop writing skills?
i think i have a good idea for a plot/universe but my storytelling skills as well as my grammar both blow monkey dicks
User avatar #5470 to #5466 - dasistwunderbar ONLINE (12/27/2014) [-]
write. No way to get good at writing other than writing. It will be garbage, people will tell you it is garbage, and slowly, very slowly, you will get better. And when you are good, write your story you want to write. See you a few years down the line.
User avatar #5447 - silverzepher (12/23/2014) [-]
i know a novel is considered to be a book with over 100 pages(i know that isn't the actual definitionbut it is how most of us think about them), when do you think a book actually reaches that level?

do you count "catcher in the rye" ? do you start at books like the "Harry Potter" series?
User avatar #5476 to #5447 - whathappenedtofj (12/27/2014) [-]
I've always been considered the various levels to be
Short story->Novella->Novel.
Catcher in the Rye is like 250 pages from what I remember, so I'd say novel.
A novella being the length of Of Mice and Men, Heart of Darkness, The Old Man and the Sea. Although because there's no exact definition, I suppose it's ambiguous.
User avatar #5480 to #5476 - silverzepher (19 hours ago) [-]
i was asking more along the lines of when a book store just being a book to you, does it happen when you get emotionally evolved with one of the characters? does it happen when you just can't or the book down and have to finish it? i brought up the length because that is how most people think of it. take "catcher in the rye" it was long enough, but i don't.consider it anything more than a book that was trying a little too hard to be bigger than itself.
User avatar #5448 to #5447 - Mr Unsmiley (12/24/2014) [-]
A book is a book. A story with its own binding and publisher.
Depending on its audience, it'll vary in length, but not always.
Of Mice and Men was really short, but it was a classic.
So is Junie B. Jones.
I just finished a prompt that topped out at just over 100 pages, so it could technically be qualified as a book, in the right format.
User avatar #5451 to #5448 - silverzepher (12/24/2014) [-]
i know "of mice and men" is a classic, but i don't count it in the same category as books like "eragon" or the song of ice and fire series.

i know they are longer, but the book that i have read that is closer would be "catcher in the rye" i hated that book, it could have been so much better, but no it was kept down with all the swearing, i know that is kind of its thing, but it could have minimalist it and focused on a better story.

take "the giver" for example, that was a better book I'm my pinion than either "catcher in the rye" or "of mice and men"
User avatar #5452 to #5451 - Mr Unsmiley (12/24/2014) [-]
How does that relate to your question about book length?
User avatar #5453 to #5452 - silverzepher (12/24/2014) [-]
my question want about the length, it was when do you count a book as having reached the level of being a novel
User avatar #5454 to #5453 - Mr Unsmiley (12/24/2014) [-]
There's really no defining level. It's just a fictitious work that reaches the length standards of a book.
User avatar #5455 to #5454 - silverzepher (12/24/2014) [-]
So you count "catcher in the rye" the same as one of the books from the song of ice and fire? Or the black cauldron compared to "the hobbit"?
User avatar #5456 to #5455 - Mr Unsmiley (12/24/2014) [-]
In the basest definition of novel, yeah. They're different genres and different lengths, but they're all still novels.
User avatar #5457 to #5456 - silverzepher (12/24/2014) [-]
i think your missing the your opinion on when one becomes one, unless you count any that just meet the definition
User avatar #5458 to #5457 - Mr Unsmiley (12/24/2014) [-]
okay so that was kind of phrased poorly on your part
I wouldn't count one as the same as the other
at all
they're novels, but that's where the similarities end
User avatar #5459 to #5458 - silverzepher (12/24/2014) [-]
i know a novel is considered to be a book with over 100 pages(i know that isn't the actual definitionbut it is how most of us think about them), when do you think a book actually reaches that level?

when do you think a book actually reaches that level?

i assume you can read, so i aimed you could come up with an opinion
User avatar #5460 to #5459 - Mr Unsmiley (12/24/2014) [-]
dickish statement aside
you kind of answered your own statement
a story becomes a novel when it reaches 100 pages
as in, a book is usually 100 pages or more
novels are books, books aren't always novels
User avatar #5461 to #5460 - silverzepher (12/24/2014) [-]
i said that is how most if us see them, but that doesn't mean we asll agree. i don't count anything under 600 pages, that doesn't get me included with the characters as a novel, i asked others to see where they dew the line.

that dickish statement comes from running into a "wall" if someone who doesn't seem to have understood the question, and was intent on ignoring that they didn't read, understand, and utilize it to the best if their ability to answer the question that was asked. sorry if that wasn't the case.
User avatar #5462 to #5461 - Mr Unsmiley (12/24/2014) [-]
then that's your deal
doesn't really matter what you count it or not
a novel is any fictional story with enough pages to be published
User avatar #5463 to #5462 - silverzepher (12/24/2014) [-]
So we are counting short stories now? how about novellas? there are many types of fictional stories that get published that don't meet the 100 pages that most people count, but this is getting boring, have a nice night.
User avatar #5444 - numbernumbernumber (12/23/2014) [-]
any books like the name of the wind, you guys know?
User avatar #5445 to #5444 - lillpip (12/23/2014) [-]
A Wise Man's Fear
User avatar #5446 to #5445 - numbernumbernumber (12/23/2014) [-]
i have read that...
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User avatar #5433 - funi ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
I can't remember the name of the short story. A military super computer combines with two other super computers to kill all humans because they are imperfect. The computer keeps 4 people alive and psychologically tortures them in various ways. Whenever the humans are about to die, the computer somehow saves them.

It's a fairly well known story that I can't remember the name of.
User avatar #5443 to #5433 - adviceweed (12/23/2014) [-]
Sounds fucked up, whatever it is.
User avatar #5437 to #5433 - dasistwunderbar ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
I have no mouth, but I must scream.
User avatar #5465 to #5437 - pipeworks (12/24/2014) [-]
* I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream
User avatar #5469 to #5465 - dasistwunderbar ONLINE (12/26/2014) [-]
tomayto tomahto
User avatar #5426 - leadstriker (12/20/2014) [-]
enders game was the edgies shittiest book I've ever read.
User avatar #5449 to #5426 - Mr Unsmiley (12/24/2014) [-]
I haven't read the whole book, just the short story
I can tell you that the movie was infinitely more shitty than any written form could ever be
User avatar #5442 to #5426 - adviceweed (12/23/2014) [-]
I hated wonder why people are so fond it tbh.
User avatar #5430 to #5426 - dasistwunderbar ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
but why
User avatar #5425 - guiguito ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
What was the name of that book that kind of rips off harry potter, they had a wardrobe thinggy on the cover and instead of a castle it was like a arena or labynth.
User avatar #5434 to #5425 - funi ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
The Charlie Bone series?
User avatar #5436 to #5434 - guiguito ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
Thanks.
User avatar #5435 to #5434 - guiguito ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
Holy shit, it is.
User avatar #5431 to #5425 - skelearmor (12/21/2014) [-]
narnia?
User avatar #5432 to #5431 - guiguito ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
no
#5424 - lolwtfbbqryan (12/20/2014) [-]
Has anyone else read Leven Thumps?

I realize this is like 8th grade reading level shit or lower (i think i read it in 7th or 8th)

but i really liked this series.
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User avatar #5417 - ugottanked (12/18/2014) [-]
can anyone here recommend me something?

just finished The Shining by Stephen King
User avatar #5450 to #5417 - Mr Unsmiley (12/24/2014) [-]
Might be a little juvenile coming out of Stephen King, but if you haven't read it already, the Percy Jackson series. I learned a good deal of Greek mythology just by reading it.
User avatar #5464 to #5450 - ugottanked (12/24/2014) [-]
Read every one
#5427 to #5417 - omnomer (12/21/2014) [-]
Have you read the Dark Tower?
User avatar #5429 to #5427 - ugottanked (12/21/2014) [-]
Every single one of the series.
User avatar #5420 to #5417 - ninjatacos (12/19/2014) [-]
If you haven't already, you should read Unbroken. I could not put it down
User avatar #5421 to #5420 - ugottanked (12/19/2014) [-]
I have not read it
User avatar #5413 - hhhghhg (12/18/2014) [-]
anybody else enjoy The Darkest Minds series of books by Alexandra Bracken? im just starting on the third book and im wondering how many other people like it
#5405 - hauntzor (12/17/2014) [-]
A friend of mine absolutely despises Of Mice And Men because they say it glorifies the killing of disabled people.

Uh, how much of that book do you remember, exactly? And how did it imply the fact that Lenny's murder was a romanticized, positive thing? If anything, it teaches us to be more understanding of the mentally challenged, especially when they commit a crime that turns out to be out of their mental control.

Maybe I'm not getting it. Can someone PLEASE explain to me what could possibly be offensive about that book in terms of how it treats mentally challenged people because I can't fucking find it.
User avatar #5407 to #5405 - phoenixforger (12/17/2014) [-]
The story is, just that, a story. It isn't meant to tell the reader to kill their friends. It is not a glorification of the events held within, merely a telling of them. Lennie killed a woman, regardless of his intentions or mental ability, and he would be lynched for it. George put him down instead. Your friend is allowed to analyze this as much as they like, but declaring it as offensive is beside the point.
User avatar #5408 to #5407 - hauntzor (12/17/2014) [-]
Yeah but like, they're condemning schools for having the nerve to even make students read it as a literary requirement. That's what pisses me off about it.
User avatar #5409 to #5408 - phoenixforger (12/17/2014) [-]
That's pretty ridiculous. If nothing happens in a story, then it isn't a story at all. Would they prefer students read about a perfect world where everyone is the same, and nothing of consequence happens? I certainly wouldn't. Of Mice And Men is a good story for students to read, and learn about literature from.
User avatar #5416 to #5409 - ugottanked (12/18/2014) [-]
so thank you
User avatar #5415 to #5409 - ugottanked (12/18/2014) [-]
You my friend just gave me an interesting idea to write about
User avatar #5418 to #5415 - phoenixforger (12/18/2014) [-]
Go nuts. It might work well as a joke.
User avatar #5410 to #5409 - youngneil ONLINE (12/18/2014) [-]
Imagine reading a book like that, where everything seems perfect. And it is, and you go through the entire book waiting for something to get fucked up but it just never does.
User avatar #5419 to #5410 - phoenixforger (12/18/2014) [-]
Maybe a character becomes self aware, but is immediately eliminated, and omitted from the rest of the story, and the reader has to try and piece together the ending.
User avatar #5406 to #5405 - themagicwizard (12/17/2014) [-]
How do you not remember the huge parade they had for George afterward? He was crowned king of the town and went on to have a long and fulfilling career of shooting disabled people. It was like the whole point.
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