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#1 - wartox (11/18/2013) [-]
As a pilot in training, this pleases me
As a pilot in training, this pleases me
User avatar #18 to #1 - deescalation (11/19/2013) [-]
As a crew chief I assume this is typical
User avatar #35 to #18 - stealingbikes (11/19/2013) [-]
It is if you know some of the pilots I did when I was a crew chief.
User avatar #42 to #1 - sealman (11/19/2013) [-]
I like seals pups
User avatar #49 to #1 - habakkuk (11/19/2013) [-]
Way to shamelessly plug your credentials
#13 to #1 - callofvikings (11/19/2013) [-]
Air Traffic Controller in training, hopefully we will be on the opposing end of the Mic sometime.
#44 to #13 - anon (11/19/2013) [-]
N69FJ declaring emergency fuel
User avatar #3 to #1 - Mrdannyman (11/18/2013) [-]
Dude, I wanna be get my pilots license, mind if I ask a few questions?
User avatar #15 to #3 - andiminius (11/19/2013) [-]
Private Pilot reporting in. I'll love sharing aviation knowledge! What do you want to know?
User avatar #16 to #15 - Mrdannyman (11/19/2013) [-]
Sweet, first and foremost, money. How much does it cost to get a private pilots license?
User avatar #21 to #16 - andiminius (11/19/2013) [-]
That's usually the first question I get. And my answer is always: it depends. Mainly on whether you go to a specifically 'flight training' school or a 4-year college.

As you might guess, the college route is more expensive. You'll be forced to pay for normal college tuition and other expenditures with the added cost of flight training. The extra cost yields the benefit of a Bachelor's Degree and opportunities through networking, a distinct advantage that colleges have over smaller schools. The price for all these benefits can sometimes number in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Flight schools are the quick and easy route. You won't waste time with non-aviation classes and other responsibilities of a 4-year college program. The cost here also varies depending on how licensed you want to be. There are multiple levels of 'ratings.' If you want the simplest, Private Pilot Single-Engine Ground, the cost could be as little as 5,000-10,000.
User avatar #22 to #21 - Mrdannyman (11/19/2013) [-]
Well, my plan is to make some sort of career out of it, not necessarily flying commercial, but flying people around my state (trips to monuments, fly over the grand canyon and what not) what 'level' of license do you think I should get?
User avatar #24 to #22 - andiminius (11/19/2013) [-]
You'll need Private Pilot rating, of course. This rating is for basic flight knowledge. If you will only be flying on clear-weather days doing things like sky-tours, site-seeing and short-range transportation (50 miles or less) then the only other license you need is 'Commercial.' A Commercial rating allows you to flight for hire, receiving compensation for your flight skills.

This part is only slightly complicated. Too exercise all privileges of a Commercial rating, you would need to get an Instrument rating. To define an Instrument rating in the most simple way possible, it's a license to fly in the clouds. With Instrument and Commercial coupled the range of potential employment grows immensely from only having a Private.

Also, self-employment is nearly impossible in aviation. For small time jobs, like those mentioned above, you'd absolutely want to seek employment in a pre-existing company.

To fly larger, more complex and higher-performance aircraft, you could later seek to get a Multi-Engine license and other various ratings/endorsements.

User avatar #25 to #24 - Mrdannyman (11/19/2013) [-]
Okay, I think I understand, now, more importantly, is it practical? Can I make a good living and still maintain a family relationship if I'm working as a pilot, or will it consume most of my time?
User avatar #28 to #25 - andiminius (11/19/2013) [-]
I'll cover the two ends of the spectrum according to the autonomy the positions give.

The most autonomous position (that is, high flexibility in working hours, location-specific demands, etc.) would be local flight jobs. Crop dusting, sight seeing, aircraft ferrying, aerial-photography (my personal favorite!), flight instructing and other operations utilizing a single airport give this. If you make a full time job out of these positions you can make a profit given some time. Often times, however, these positions pay only just above minimum wage.

The least autonomous are jobs are flying corporate or airline but, by far, pay more than the previously mentions jobs. When you fly for corporate CEO's and such, you do not own your own schedule. If you're their online pilot you should expect a call at any time of the day or night notifying you that your services are needed. Your time at home would be extremely inconsistent, never knowing what days of the week you'll be working. When flying for airlines, you generally know what your weekly schedule is going to be like. But you could spend days, even weeks at a time away from home as your job would take you across the nation/world. You'd very much live out of suitcase. They'll take VERY good care of you though. Work for the same airline for several years to eventually get a captain's position and you can make an average of $300,000 a year.
User avatar #31 to #28 - Mrdannyman (11/19/2013) [-]
So, basically, if I want a family, I shouldn't be a pilot?
User avatar #32 to #31 - andiminius (11/19/2013) [-]
On some level, that is correct. I, being only 20, have no plans to begin a family any time soon because I know it'll take away from my career possibilities. I don't think aviation is the industry for someone with a family that is completely dependent on them. That being said, it is possible to work while attending a flight school part time, receive the necessary licenses, and transition to local flight employment. You are perfectly capable of having a family and becoming a professional pilot.

I'd like to give some case-specific advice to you. If you're willing to tell me a little about where you are in life (education, employment or engaged in a career, and relationship status) I can give you an idea of exactly how possible it is for you.
User avatar #33 to #32 - Mrdannyman (11/19/2013) [-]
I'm in high school, unemployed but lookin for a job, have a pretty steady girlfriend (knock on wood) what do ya think?
User avatar #37 to #33 - andiminius (11/19/2013) [-]
If you decided that you really wanted to pursue aviation in local employment, you should first determine what the job availability in your area is. Find out if there are already successful companies in your area performing those high-autonomy jobs. This is important when doing anything in aviation: TALK TO THEM. MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS. Contact that company and ask them about their employment options. Even if they have none, ask what they would require of you as far as experience and training. Odds are that other companies will have similar requirements. If no companies exist nearby, go to the county airport on a Saturday or Sunday. Find out where the old pilots hangout and tell them you think planes are cool. That's all they'll need to hear. As you can tell from me, most pilots enjoy talking to people interested in their passion. Old men are the best at it. Ask them about local flight schools, where they got their first job as a pilot, and ask them to share their stories. Every pilot has one good story. If you're lucky, they might take you out to the hangar and show you around some of the aircraft.

If you determine that there's a high enough chance of working where you live, look into schools. If money is tight and the potential jobs don't require a BA, get a job working part time and go to flight school when time and budget allows it. Take your time in transitioning into the industry. If you're not fully certain that aviation is the career for you, don't completely invest yourself in the training. Take the beginner courses and make those first few flights. If you love it, continue. Work what jobs you can to pay for the training. But be cautious, know how much you're going to allow yourself to pay for the training and still be able to afford the cost of living.

[More to come in reply to this comment]
User avatar #39 to #37 - andiminius (11/19/2013) [-]
If student loans are available and your parents support you and are willing to invest in you, enroll in a college. This is also still an option after starting out at a flight school then deciding you want to go all the way and become an airline pilot. You'll be forced to take some seemingly irrelevant and useless classes along the way but the quality of training is usually higher.

Just to give myself as an example: I made my first flight when I was 4 and when I was 6 I was sitting up front and on the controls. I flew as often as I could until I turned 14 and got my first instruction flight. Immediately after graduating high school I enrolled in a four year college. After 3 years here, I've decided that the heads of my university have those heads up their asses and have no idea how to draw an appropriate curriculum that correctly prioritizes classes. Compared to the university as a whole our aviation department is quite small, only 50 people including faculty and every one of them agree. My training has gone by slowly mainly because my university has designed every major to focus on 'core classes' the first couple years. These are classes like mathematics, sciences, communications, and other subjects that are required by all majors. For the most part this was a good idea because some people go to college not knowing what they want to do. But for those of us that know and have known, our time and money is wasted on these general education classes. Find a school that DOESN'T DO THIS. There are schools that will fast-track you in the direction you want to go. You just have to find the right one.
User avatar #41 to #39 - altairibnlaahad (11/19/2013) [-]
Just curious, what school did you go to?
User avatar #43 to #41 - andiminius (11/19/2013) [-]
Normally I wound't mind telling someone. But considering what I've just said about my school, I won't give the name. Overall, it's a fine university and I've enjoyed my experience here. To give you the name might cause you or someone else to rule out my school as an option based on what I've said and I don't want to be responsible for that.

If you really want to know and knowing won't somehow influence you, send me a message.
User avatar #51 to #43 - nighkey (11/19/2013) [-]
This has nothing to do with my situation personally, but I would like to thank you for going out of your way to be a good person and help another individual out.
User avatar #53 to #51 - andiminius (11/19/2013) [-]
That meant a lot. Thank you.
User avatar #54 to #53 - nighkey (11/19/2013) [-]
Too be honest, I can't believe you're only 20 and accomplished this much, on top of being an intelligent person willing to share their wisdom and experience with a fellow man. The first step to being good at anything, is sucking at it. And when you feel like you suck at it, and there are no answers, it is the most discouraging feeling life can offer you. Having someone to ask makes doing it in the first place so much more of a brighter option, and makes a dream feel like it can be achieved with solid facts.

I'm 20 myself, but fancy the breeding of exotic reptiles and building their enclosures for others to be my calling, along with graphic design. I'd be pretty honored if you wanted to be my FJ friend. =)
User avatar #55 to #54 - andiminius (11/19/2013) [-]
I'd enjoy that.
User avatar #29 to #28 - andiminius (11/19/2013) [-]
If you're their only pilot*
#8 to #3 - memescomefromb (11/18/2013) [-]
Be smart about it though. Research the schools, and the loans you will be taking out, if any. I had a pretty bad loan for my schooling, and I'm stuck with it. Flight school is amazingly fun if you have the right instructors though! Would do it all over again
User avatar #7 to #3 - BlizzXonetwothree (11/18/2013) [-]
Do it. Just do it. It is entirely worth it.
#4 to #1 - jonki (11/18/2013) [-]
as a professional pilot, this pleases me
#12 - buffermcmufflin (11/19/2013) [-]
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#23 to #12 - blightedagent (11/19/2013) [-]
Goddammit, Christian! I am sick of your 			****		!
Goddammit, Christian! I am sick of your **** !
User avatar #19 to #12 - lolzordz (11/19/2013) [-]
BAM

ohhh... ohhh ***** ...dude, are you alright? Oh man that looked bad, are you alright? oh **** , your arm... ohh ****** man that looks bad

"no no, im okay. Im fine. don't..im fine"
User avatar #26 - theexplodingcheez (11/19/2013) [-]
gotta love the Far Side for pretty much creating an entire genre
User avatar #10 - crustydingleberry (11/18/2013) [-]
wayside comics were always the best even better than charly brown
User avatar #30 to #10 - steelwoolsheep (11/19/2013) [-]
im going to kill you
User avatar #34 to #10 - stealingbikes (11/19/2013) [-]
*The Far Side

*Charlie Brown

You really can't compare the two. They're both completely different kinds of humor. It's like comparing a porter to an IPA. Sure they're both technically beers, but they're different kinds of beer.
#11 to #10 - stgfilitov (11/19/2013) [-]
Farside you mean?
#5 - jonki (11/18/2013) [-]
there was a incident just last night where the captain of an Icelandair flight departing from Glasgow noticed a warning light that indicated that one of 2 engines had shut down. he therefore called "mayday mayday mayday, right engine down" only to realize he had accidentally announced that to the cabin instead of Glasgow tower
User avatar #6 - ihearcolors ONLINE (11/18/2013) [-]
Gary Larson everyone!
User avatar #17 - vanillasmoke (11/19/2013) [-]
Gary Larson was honestly my favorite cartoonist ever, **** always had me laughing
#9 - thecakeislegit (11/18/2013) [-]
A plane near my house in NC flying in from Tampa had cabin pressure issues and instead of notifying the passengers of the issue and telling them what was actually happening he just yelled over the intercom "WE'RE GOING DOWN!" When in reality he was going to a lower altitude to restore pressure so the crew can fix it.
A plane near my house in NC flying in from Tampa had cabin pressure issues and instead of notifying the passengers of the issue and telling them what was actually happening he just yelled over the intercom "WE'RE GOING DOWN!" When in reality he was going to a lower altitude to restore pressure so the crew can fix it.
#20 to #9 - anon (11/19/2013) [-]
If you're referring to the incident I think you're referring to he didn't just scream over the intercom that they were going down. He was talking to the co-pilot and the intercom had turned on without him realizing. He had to make a decision quick and he barely had time to explain the situation to his co-pilot, let alone the passengers.
User avatar #27 to #20 - truemox ONLINE (11/19/2013) [-]
He made the right move, too.
User avatar #2 - lurg (11/18/2013) [-]
AWWW yeszzz far side!
#50 - cjwers (11/19/2013) [-]
Speaks for itself
User avatar #48 - garykn (11/19/2013) [-]
Love the far side comics.
User avatar #47 - baditch (11/19/2013) [-]
Amusingly enough, this happened the other day. It was on the news.
User avatar #40 - deafmagnets (11/19/2013) [-]
This is something my mom would send me in a email... if she wasn't dead
User avatar #46 to #40 - ilovehitler (11/19/2013) [-]
Make her send it anyways.
Do it faggot.
Raise the dead. Become a necromancer.
#52 to #46 - fizzor (11/19/2013) [-]
I like the way you think.
User avatar #45 to #40 - mrspartanman (11/19/2013) [-]
You're just a bright ray of sunshine aren't you?
#38 - thoughtspot (11/19/2013) [-]
Passengers FW
Passengers FW
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#14 - volcanicxlegend (11/19/2013) [-]
and that was his last day at his job
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