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User avatar #87463 - ThatFatMummy (07/29/2013) [-]
So guys, in the past couple of months I found myself in the middle of a completely different religion. (no, it's not an evil one).
I only told 2 of my very most trusted friends, because I just couldn't keep it secret.
But, my family would ridicule me for following this religion, and most people in my school are redneck-christians and would either ridicule me or straight up bully me.
So, due to all of these reasons, I don't want to tell anyone else about it.

But at the same time, I don't want to be lying about it. Lying is, in a way, against my religion strongly.

Can someone who is experienced with this kind of situation (whether its religion, sexuality, political views, etc.) give me a tip on how to come out of the closet?
User avatar #87482 to #87463 - annadewitt (07/29/2013) [-]
i dont see why you need to bring up your religion in the first place.
User avatar #87493 to #87482 - ThatFatMummy (07/29/2013) [-]
(1): what if someone else brings it up?

(2): I just feel uncomfortable with hiding it from everyone.
User avatar #87495 to #87493 - annadewitt (07/29/2013) [-]
then talk about your religion. thats fine. i mean do you see christians and jewish people talking about their religion all the time? not really. its called a personal belief for a reason.

then dont hide it, doesnt mean you have to let every person you know, know your a *insert religion here*. just say it when it needs to be said.
User avatar #87498 to #87495 - ThatFatMummy (07/29/2013) [-]
but the problem was that I'm scared of the peoples' reaction.
#87499 to #87498 - annadewitt (07/29/2013) [-]
well you have two options, you either hold true to your religion and you tell your friends and they hate you for it (which i doubt since they are your friends), or you can keep it a secret and hate yourself for it. im pretty sure you know the right answer to this. its just a matter of how you approach it. im sure what i said earlier with only talking about it when it needs to be said is the easiest and best approach.
User avatar #87464 to #87463 - ScottMJfan (07/29/2013) [-]
If I were you, I would only tell the people you absolutely 100% trust, but make it casual. That way, if one of them were to leak it and somebody asked you, you could just say, "Yeah, I'm a(n) _____."

And then you could just go about your day. Pretend like them knowing doesn't affect you, and they won't receive a response when they initially pick on you, which they might. If they do, they'll leave you alone after a while, if not, then whoopie. You get to have that religion.

Also, if you mean "come out of the closet" meaning telling everybody that you are _______ religion, then just don't bother. Most people don't care if you're a different religion anyways.
User avatar #87472 to #87464 - ThatFatMummy (07/29/2013) [-]
They do in Mississippi ;~;
User avatar #87473 to #87472 - ScottMJfan (07/29/2013) [-]
Dude, I live in Kentucky. It's like, the same.

What religion do you worship and what do you think they'll do?
User avatar #87474 to #87473 - ThatFatMummy (07/29/2013) [-]
Wicca. It's just a pagan, earth-based religion. I worship deities that others recognize as mythology, and the most used symbol of that religion is a pentacle (other than the other symbols you use for your patron god and goddess, which for example could be a moon if you worship thoth or a flower if aphrodite). And because of that symbol alone, I'd be instantly thought of as a devil worshiper and no matter how hard I explain they wouldn't learn a thing about it as if they just *want* to think I'm evil for not being christian.

And even if they *did* learn that I'm not a Satan worshiper, they'd call me a witch (which wouldn't be offensive, but wrong) or a warlock (which would be both wrong and almost offensive [warlock means oath-breaker, or liar]). The only ones who wouldn't have that kind of reaction are all my friends, but even then it would be an awkward subject to talk about.

But yeah, I'll follow your advice. I never thought of passively telling everyone before... that's a good idea. Thanks c:

(if you had something else to say, I'm still here lol)
User avatar #87478 to #87474 - ScottMJfan (07/29/2013) [-]
Don't listen to that guy below me. If you aren't happy keeping it inside, but are afraid of what people will directly say, passively doing it is your best option. That's how people learned I was an agnostic atheist, and now nobody gives a shit.

Trust me, this is probably the best way it can happen. For the first few weeks though, expects some smirking remarks/rhetorical questions.
User avatar #87477 to #87474 - ScottMJfan (07/29/2013) [-]
Well good luck man. I already knew what Wicca was, though. I've studied religions ranging from Catholicism to Satanism (both atheist and theistic) so I know most of the world's main religions.

But yeah, just don't make a huge deal of it and they shouldn't either. If you need some more advice, I'm always here man.

Have a nice day, and once again, good luck with your spiritual journey!
User avatar #87476 to #87474 - adrilazzaro (07/29/2013) [-]
Dude simply keep it to yourself, such rare things are always frowned upon, although it's a bit immoral, do lie. I'm an atheist and i don't like lying, but when people ask me if i'm christian i just say i am. It saves a long ass conversation with someone believes humans came from Adam and eve (i live in Texas, i'm fucking serious when i say this) even close friends will probably find it weird, it's like when you try to convince someone you saw a ghost even if they always trust you they'll still nod their head and ignore you
#87479 to #87476 - ThatFatMummy (07/29/2013) [-]
I know what you mean. I was atheist before this, but would stay up at night asking questions that are probably the questions that all converted people ask lol.   
Anyway, enjoy these green thumbs! You've earned them.   
Go ahead and make another comment so I can thumb it, too :v
I know what you mean. I was atheist before this, but would stay up at night asking questions that are probably the questions that all converted people ask lol.
Anyway, enjoy these green thumbs! You've earned them.
Go ahead and make another comment so I can thumb it, too :v
User avatar #87481 to #87479 - adrilazzaro (07/29/2013) [-]
Just out of curiousity, what convince you to believe in these gods? ancient worship? the feel that there's more to life than jsut reproducing before you die? i don't wanna argue i'm blatantly curious since most of us atheists are pretty hard to convince in any way.

thumbs for you too bruh
User avatar #87491 to #87481 - ThatFatMummy (07/29/2013) [-]
Because I sat up at night and thought about "experience".
In reality, we're just a bundle of physical parts -- atoms that make minerals, and minerals that make cells. Add some electricity, and voila, it's alive.
But my question is, why do I experience things? Why am I not an inanimate object? or even an animate object? (emphasis on object, because objects don't have perception, supposedly).

So I was thinking, if I were (for the sake of argument) to go pick up the building blocks for humans, mineral-by-mineral, and put them all where they're supposed to go and made a human brain, would it be conscience? It wasn't born, it was created from inanimate objects, and suddenly has life and perception?

And even if it *is* conscience, at what point does that happen? when it's done? when it's halfway done? when I put the first cell together? or even when I thought of creating it?

That made me realize that there's nothing by logic that explains why we percieve, experience, and live. So I thought there must be something more that we're not seeing, and it's not limited to living things like humans / animals / or even plants. By that, I mean what we're missing is spirit. I think everything, from water to rocks to plants to air, has a spirit and can percieve and experience the same way we do, but there's simply no way to detect it using science (at least, not yet).
And I see everything as spirits. Spirits of the moon, sun, water, earth, air, plants, animals, and people. But I use the gods' and goddesses' names to refer to them (like, if I speak to the spirit of the moon, I refer to it as Thoth, the egyptian god of the moon, wisdom, and learning [he is my patron god], and I would ask him to help me make hard decisions.])
The whole reason I attempt to speak through the spirits is because I figure I have my own spirit, so I must be able to control it. And I believe I can, and I believe I have.

And since then, it escalated to me doing small rituals/spells in secret in my bedroom :p
User avatar #87496 to #87491 - adrilazzaro (07/29/2013) [-]
I like such religions, they are about understanding and connecting with earth. Not about following a supernatural power or be cast to eternal damnation. I remember when i was young after reading alot of greek mythology i would sculpt small temples out of clay (i like art ok) and sacrifice cockroaches and bugs to the gods. I grew out of it quickly but it was fun. Honestly even though i do sometimes believes there are greater things out there i won't bow down to any or anything, i don't know why but i yearn to be free of anything. Like i can't let my destiny be someones little sims game.

Anyways nice talking to you, i'm heading off for the night
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