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Wise words. . Being athiest is okay. Shaming religions and spirituality as silly or not real is not okay) Being Christian is 6% -eay. Being a homophobic, mi' ha

Being athiest is okay.
Shaming religions and spirituality
as silly or not real is not okay)
Being Christian is 6% -eay.
Being a homophobic, mi'
hateful person who jams religion
down people' s throat is not okay.
Being a reindeer is ' i:
Bullying and excluding another
reindeer because he has shiny
red nose is not okay.
Literatly'

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#1 - silverzepher

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(10/27/2013)[-]

not to be rude, but i don't believe harry potter is a real person, so why should i believe a 2000 year old book that not even the people who believe in it can agree what it says.

#3 to #1 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

> Not to be rude
Ignoring the ********, one clearly states itself to be a work of fiction, one does not, furthermore, nobody's forcing you to be Christian. Hell, this is the internet, there are probably more people trying to make you become an atheist than there are people trying to get you to believe any of Earth's religions combined.

#21 to #3 - asheskirata

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(10/28/2013)[-]

That last portion is doubtful.

#4 to #3 - silverzepher

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(10/28/2013)[-]

where does it say in harry potter that it is fake? i've never seen it, so if you could show me i would be thankful.

#8 to #4 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Huh.
Checked myself, and it doesn't. Normally books printed in the United States have a little section on the copyright page saying stuff like: | Human Experimentation - Fiction | *********

#11 to #8 - silverzepher

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(10/28/2013)[-]

that would be on the binding, placed there by the same people who refuse to put it on the bible and instead put a religion sticker on it

#13 to #11 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

They do it with all religious texts, as far as I know.

Mainly because, to some [Or many in the case of the Bible, the Koran, and the Hindu texts], it isn't fiction. So why piss them off when you can slap a religion sticker on it and be done with it?

#15 to #13 - silverzepher

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(10/28/2013)[-]

why not do the same with harry potter, other than the fact that we can still talk to the author, and publisher?

#16 to #15 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Because there's no religion backing it, only a fandom.

#17 to #16 - silverzepher

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(10/28/2013)[-]

the difference being?

#18 to #17 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Lack of churches, lack of any real organized structure, lack of 'miracles' of any sort [Epic cosplay does not count], lack of people dying over fandoms... wait, that has probably happened before.

#19 to #18 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

*religious structures
sorry

#20 to #19 - silverzepher

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(10/28/2013)[-]

np here is a definition, tell me if you think it is correct.

religious- a term used to refer to a culture composed of people by a feeling of sympathy and camaraderie with others who share a common religion. The "devoute" typically are interested in even minor details of the object(s) of their religion and spend a significant portion of their time and energy involved with their interest.

#82 to #3 - shadowgandalf

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Forgot to mention, that since we as a species base our world views on facts, religiion have no place in public areas, like school, politic or other authoraties.

#81 to #3 - shadowgandalf

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Last bit is plain wrong, but whatever.
My view in this science vs religiondebate, not atheist vs religion, but SCIENCE vs religion, is that one is based on evidence and represent humanity's understanding of the world and how it works, and the other is just faith, backed up with nothing but "good faith".

IMO, science hold alot more credit than religion ever will. And our species knowleagde, iin ALL fields, is based 100% on science. It dosn't matter if you are a soldier, a politician, a nurse or a hairdresser. You can't avoid using science as a base for your work. Even the Amish apply science in daily life.
Science, unlike religion, is our species knowleagde of how the world works. It is reality as we currently understand it.

TL;DR: Science is NOT some alternative to religion as alot of stupid ***** seems to think, it is our understanding of reality.

There is no debate to make. Religion is religion, it's pure hope and dreams, not reality.

#77 to #3 - tetroll

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(10/28/2013)[-]

They aren't forcing him but people do push their religion on others.

#23 to #3 - crilleballe

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(10/28/2013)[-]

> Nobody is forcing you to be christian.
Ever heard of the bible belt?

#24 to #23 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

I meant online.

#25 to #24 - crilleballe

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(10/28/2013)[-]

oh okay, that's okay then, but i don't think the content, nor silverzepher, is only talking about the internet.

#26 to #25 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

It's not talking about the bible belt either. See the mention of reindeer? Clearly it is talking about the Arctic Circle.

#27 to #26 - crilleballe

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(10/28/2013)[-]

"...hateful person who jams religion down peoples throat."
Clearly it talks about the sort of people that live in the bible belt, as well as reindeer and atheists.

#28 to #27 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

And if you look below you to your left, you'll see our joke passing over crilleballe about 35,000 feet below us.

also bigoted asshole Christians are not limited to the Bible Belt. They're pretty common in rural areas of nations with a Christian majority

#29 to #28 - crilleballe

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(10/28/2013)[-]

I don't think that religious oppresion is a joke, but maybe that's just me.
"also bigoted asshole Christians are not limited to the Bible Belt. They're pretty common in rural areas of nations with a Christian majority"
"Clearly it talks about the sort of people that live in the bible belt"
the sort of people

#56 to #1 - impo**User deleted account**

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Are you saying Harry Potter isn't real? Then who the **** is the person on the picture, Daniel Radcliffe?

#2 to #1 - treeboy

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Because it makes them happy and you might as well leave them to it if they aren't hurting anyone.

#5 to #2 - silverzepher

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(10/28/2013)[-]

the act of belief without evidence is harmful.

#6 to #5 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

According to whom? Sure, there are some nutcases who take it too far, but that's the case with every belief and lack thereof, including atheism.

Just look at Canada's hockey fans.

#7 to #6 - silverzepher

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(10/28/2013)[-]

where do we believe without evidence?

#9 to #7 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Every religion ever?

#10 to #9 - silverzepher

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(10/28/2013)[-]

i was asking about athiests, sorry for the confusion.

#12 to #10 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

'Tis all right, I've seen bigger screw-ups in arguments.

#14 to #12 - friedgreenpomatoes

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(10/28/2013)[-]

And as for me, I was stating about extremism. Which is a plague in and of itself.

#48 - franklinclinton

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Being a christian, I love everybody for who they are, gay bi straight black white rainbow it doesn't matter. So this post is 100% correct.

And no, I'm ******* 100% serious right now.

#61 - thismustbeseen

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(10/28/2013)[-]

"Religions and spirituality are/is silly and not real."

... is that really equivalent to...

"I hate gays and women and if you don't turn to and praise god you're going to burn in hell forever"

I don't think so. Religion is silly, at best. Screw you OP.

#62 to #61 - ReLigion

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(10/28/2013)[-]

im not silly

#72 to #61 - krakalisk

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(10/28/2013)[-]

I agree with this.

#59 - themamzingbs

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Shaming religion and blaming religion for many of the worlds atrocities is totally fine. Just because someone is offended doesn't mean they're right, and it doesn't mean that the person who was offensive is wrong.

#60 to #59 - ReLigion

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(10/28/2013)[-]

i have no shame im a sociopath

#74 to #59 - achimp

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Blaming religion for everything that goes wrong is like blaming the concept of government for everything.
"100% of all atrocities were committed by governments or committed under governments that did nothing to stop them! That means all forms of government are stupid! Gov't shaming is OKAY!"

You're attacking a general thing practiced by billions, probably trillions of people based on incidents thousands of years ago. You don't make a compelling argument, either, because it's really easy.

#76 to #74 - anon id: 4ad1901f

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Read it again ******** he said MANY not ALL.

#78 to #76 - achimp

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#79 to #76 - achimp

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Oh, I'm sorry you little ******.

"MANY atrocities were committed by governments or committed under governments that did nothing to stop them! That means all forms of government are stupid! Gov't shaming is okay!"

Does this clear it up ********?

Yeah *******, that doesn't change my argument at all.

#22 - stevegasm

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Being Christian is OK
Being Muslim is OK
Being Jewish is OK
Being Atheist is OK
Being Gay is OK
Being Straight is OK
You know what isn't OK?
Wearing Crocs
Wearing Crocs is not OK

#31 to #22 - lfunnymanl

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(10/28/2013)[-]

**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #6253238 at Safe For Work Random Board ** you didnt mention rape, is rape okay? also is stealing okay?

#39 to #31 - stevegasm

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Oh, I was unaware that I had actually become a moral authority.
Uh, sure, do whatever you want champ. Just as long as you don't wear ******* crocs.
I swear to God, if I catch you wearing crocs, I will ******* break you.

#53 to #39 - lfunnymanl

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(10/28/2013)[-]

**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #51 at Ultra Blastoise **but i like fap while wearing crocs

#54 to #53 - stevegasm

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Did I ******* stutter?

#55 to #54 - lfunnymanl

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(10/28/2013)[-]

**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #157 at Ecards ** did you?

#57 to #55 - stevegasm

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(10/28/2013)[-]

That roll was amazing. I salute you sir

#58 to #57 - lfunnymanl

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(10/28/2013)[-]

**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #62 at Press ← ** no u

#43 - mutzaki#495 on commentsRank#495

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(10/28/2013)[-]

I'll think certain beliefs are silly no matter what you say. Or shouldn't I be able to think that a middle-aged man believing in Santa has silly beliefs either? Call me a dick if you want to, but I'll continue thinking that belief in the supernatural is only ever not silly if it's held by a child or someone who hasn't had a basic education.

#41 - bakedbread

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Understanding an atheists' frustration:

Everyone around you devotes their lives worshiping Santa Claus, you ask these people "why do you believe in such things? there is no proof, and you gain no reward, why not concentrate on realistic and helpful things?" to which to they reply "WHY U NO BELIVE IN SANTA?! SANTA IS LOVE, SANTA IS LIFE, YU B SORY WEN HE SENDS U TO SOUTH POLE!"

#65 - kommandantvideo

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(10/28/2013)[-]

#40 - rifee

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(10/28/2013)[-]

It's okey to say what you want, as long as you're prepared to face the sonsequences for that.

#44 - xardian

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(10/28/2013)[-]

But to be a good christian you have to live the way the bible tells...
and this way is homophobic, mysogenic and hateful, and does not allow other religions...

And being atheist is just the same, cause you do not allow the existence of god, cause atheism is a religion too, but it's based on theories, wich can often be proofed, and not on only one silly book...

So you can't be either christian nor atheist, without trying to make all others believe what you say...
You have to be agnostic to not need to make others believe your ****, cause you do not believe anything...

#80 to #44 - spacehawk

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Atheism is not a religion you stupid ****. Is bald a hair colour? Is OFF a TV channel?
NO! So please **** off with this horrifyingly stupid statement.

#66 to #44 - zzforrest

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(10/28/2013)[-]

If you've been keeping up with christianity, the latest movement that dates back to Jesus's original teachings shows that he intended to abolish the old testament and make a new one based of the following principles:
>Be a good person
>"Come not to be served, but to serve"
>Donate what you have, even if what you have is little (A woman donated her only 2 coins to a church, and Jesus applauded her, even though other members of the same church were donating thousands of coins from their massive banks).
I don't see homophobia, mysogyny or any other silly little petty insults in here. I don't even subscribe to christianity, but I try to keep up with it because it's a fascinating group.

#63 to #44 - angelusprimus

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(10/28/2013)[-]

First, who are you to determine what being a christian is?
No group of christians act as Christ and his apostols did. For one, they are not jews and don't celebrate jewish hollidays like Jesus did.
Being a christian simply means being a follower of christ.
If people believe that bible is alegorical text, not straight up "how to" manual, because jesus mainly spoke in alegories. And that Jesus said that rules can change with time, and circumstance "Do not call unclean what I called clean" then who the hell are YOU to say they are not christians.
They are follower of christ, and his spirit. Far closer followers of loving god and their neighbour then homophobic hate filled bible thumpers.

#49 to #44 - franklinclinton

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(10/28/2013)[-]

A lot of Christians don't go by the bible anymore, some believe it's outdated. Myself, being a christian, I love everybody for who they are, I'm not going to shove a bible down your throat.

#50 to #49 - xardian

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(10/28/2013)[-]

well yes you call yourself a christian, and that is right for your matter, but are you truely a christian, if you ignore what the bible says?
Not really, even though you call yourself that.
I think you are one of the best believers, because you live in faith for what you think is right, not in faith of what others wrote as unchangable fact.

#67 to #50 - zzforrest

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(10/28/2013)[-]

A christian is a christ - ian is a person who follows christ. The bible is not his word. His word is the bible. That is how most christians see things.

#51 to #50 - franklinclinton

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(10/28/2013)[-]

As I see it, the bible was wrote by man, and over the period of the thousands of years after the fact, It has been tampered with way too much. I feel as though it no longer holds a true value since being altered by man. Being Christian means, following in the footsteps of Jesus. So I'll do that rather then listen to an outdated book.

#52 to #51 - xardian

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(10/28/2013)[-]

But everything you know about jesus is from the bible...

#46 to #44 - uzbekistan

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Atheism is the absence of religion. So it's not a religion.

#68 to #46 - zzforrest

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(10/28/2013)[-]

The way I see it, yes Atheism is a religion.
Think of it this way:
You can collect stamps, you can ski, you can run, you can play, etc. Most people see this as being proof against atheism being a religion, but it really supports it since Atheism is like doing nothing. "Nothing" is an action you can perform, because if your action reflects none other than you must be doing "nothing". It's like numbers, if it is no other number, even though it may have no value, "0" is a number for no value. Hence, as "nothing" is an action, and "0" is a value, "Atheism" is a religion.

#64 to #46 - angelusprimus

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Actually no its not.
Atheism is belief that there is no god.
Unlike gnosticism its a firm belief, with firm set, its practiced and confirmed in groups, its absolute and it has its prominent thinkers.
Indifferent gnosticism is absence of religion. "I don't know if god exist, I don't think so and whats more I don't care."
Atheism as practiced, especially on internet today, is not just religion, its an evangelical religion.

#47 to #46 - xardian

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(10/28/2013)[-]

If you EVER get deeper into the subject, you'll know that it's impossible to say what a religion really is, so for your own definition of religion this might be true but after a long time of learning about religions, I came to the point to call every life-guiding believe, (like atheism), wich is based on what others said, a religion.
You can't ever know everything with proof you are taught to have the believe that there is no god, neither can you proof that there is a god, and that it is the god you belive in.
And atheism is not the lack of religion, it is the believe that there is no god.

#70 to #47 - zzforrest

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(10/28/2013)[-]

Buddhism seems to be what you are talking about. It has no deity (no really, it doesn't), there are no rituals, there is a "prophet" (Gautama Buddha) but really all Buddhism does is say "There is suffering; there is a way to beat it." And yet it's a religion, that anyone can follow. It doesn't match the primary definitions of a religion, yet it is still a religion.

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