Wise words

> Not to be rude
Ignoring the ******** , one clearly states itself to be a work of fiction, one does not, furthermore, nobody's forcing you to be Christian. Hell, this is the internet, there are probably more people trying to make you become an atheist than there are people trying to get you to believe any of Earth's religions combined.

That last portion is doubtful.

where does it say in harry potter that it is fake? i've never seen it, so if you could show me i would be thankful.

Huh.
Checked myself, and it doesn't. Normally books printed in the United States have a little section on the copyright page saying stuff like: | Human Experimentation - Fiction | *********

that would be on the binding, placed there by the same people who refuse to put it on the bible and instead put a religion sticker on it

They do it with all religious texts, as far as I know.

Mainly because, to some [Or many in the case of the Bible, the Koran, and the Hindu texts], it isn't fiction. So why piss them off when you can slap a religion sticker on it and be done with it?

why not do the same with harry potter, other than the fact that we can still talk to the author, and publisher?

Because there's no religion backing it, only a fandom.

the difference being?

Lack of churches, lack of any real organized structure, lack of 'miracles' of any sort [Epic cosplay does not count], lack of people dying over fandoms... wait, that has probably happened before.

*religious structures
sorry

np here is a definition, tell me if you think it is correct.

religious- a term used to refer to a culture composed of people by a feeling of sympathy and camaraderie with others who share a common religion. The "devoute" typically are interested in even minor details of the object(s) of their religion and spend a significant portion of their time and energy involved with their interest.

Forgot to mention, that since we as a species base our world views on facts, religiion have no place in public areas, like school, politic or other authoraties.

Last bit is plain wrong, but whatever.
My view in this science vs religiondebate, not atheist vs religion, but SCIENCE vs religion, is that one is based on evidence and represent humanity's understanding of the world and how it works, and the other is just faith, backed up with nothing but "good faith".

IMO, science hold alot more credit than religion ever will. And our species knowleagde, iin ALL fields, is based 100% on science. It dosn't matter if you are a soldier, a politician, a nurse or a hairdresser. You can't avoid using science as a base for your work. Even the Amish apply science in daily life.
Science, unlike religion, is our species knowleagde of how the world works. It is reality as we currently understand it.



TL;DR: Science is NOT some alternative to religion as alot of stupid ***** seems to think, it is our understanding of reality.

There is no debate to make. Religion is religion, it's pure hope and dreams, not reality.

They aren't forcing him but people do push their religion on others.

> Nobody is forcing you to be christian.
Ever heard of the bible belt?

I meant online.

oh okay, that's okay then, but i don't think the content, nor silverzepher, is only talking about the internet.

It's not talking about the bible belt either. See the mention of reindeer? Clearly it is talking about the Arctic Circle.

"...hateful person who jams religion down peoples throat."
Clearly it talks about the sort of people that live in the bible belt, as well as reindeer and atheists.

And if you look below you to your left, you'll see our joke passing over crilleballe about 35,000 feet below us.

also bigoted ******* Christians are not limited to the Bible Belt. They're pretty common in rural areas of nations with a Christian majority

I don't think that religious oppresion is a joke, but maybe that's just me.
"also bigoted ******* Christians are not limited to the Bible Belt. They're pretty common in rural areas of nations with a Christian majority"
"Clearly it talks about the sort of people that live in the bible belt"
the sort of people

Are you saying Harry Potter isn't real? Then who the **** is the person on the picture, Daniel Radcliffe?

Because it makes them happy and you might as well leave them to it if they aren't hurting anyone.

the act of belief without evidence is harmful.

According to whom? Sure, there are some nutcases who take it too far, but that's the case with every belief and lack thereof, including atheism.

Just look at Canada's hockey fans.

where do we believe without evidence?

Every religion ever?

i was asking about athiests, sorry for the confusion.

'Tis all right, I've seen bigger screw-ups in arguments.

And as for me, I was stating about extremism. Which is a plague in and of itself.

im not silly

I agree with this.

i have no shame im a sociopath

Blaming religion for everything that goes wrong is like blaming the concept of government for everything.
"100% of all atrocities were committed by governments or committed under governments that did nothing to stop them! That means all forms of government are stupid! Gov't shaming is OKAY!"

You're attacking a general thing practiced by billions, probably trillions of people based on incidents thousands of years ago. You don't make a compelling argument, either, because it's really easy.

Oh, I'm sorry you little ****** .

"MANY atrocities were committed by governments or committed under governments that did nothing to stop them! That means all forms of government are stupid! Gov't shaming is okay!"

Does this clear it up ******** ?

Yeah ******* , that doesn't change my argument at all.

**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #6253238 at Safe For Work Random Board ** you didnt mention rape, is rape okay? also is stealing okay?

Oh, I was unaware that I had actually become a moral authority.
Uh, sure, do whatever you want champ. Just as long as you don't wear ******* crocs.
I swear to God, if I catch you wearing crocs, I will ******* break you.

**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #51 at Ultra Blastoise **but i like fap while wearing crocs

Did I ******* stutter?

**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #157 at Ecards ** did you?

That roll was amazing. I salute you sir

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Atheism is not a religion you stupid **** . Is bald a hair colour? Is OFF a TV channel?
NO! So please **** off with this horrifyingly stupid statement.

If you've been keeping up with christianity, the latest movement that dates back to Jesus's original teachings shows that he intended to abolish the old testament and make a new one based of the following principles:
>Be a good person
>"Come not to be served, but to serve"
>Donate what you have, even if what you have is little (A woman donated her only 2 coins to a church, and Jesus applauded her, even though other members of the same church were donating thousands of coins from their massive banks).
I don't see homophobia, mysogyny or any other silly little petty insults in here. I don't even subscribe to christianity, but I try to keep up with it because it's a fascinating group.

First, who are you to determine what being a christian is?
No group of christians act as Christ and his apostols did. For one, they are not jews and don't celebrate jewish hollidays like Jesus did.
Being a christian simply means being a follower of christ.
If people believe that bible is alegorical text, not straight up "how to" manual, because jesus mainly spoke in alegories. And that Jesus said that rules can change with time, and circumstance "Do not call unclean what I called clean" then who the hell are YOU to say they are not christians.
They are follower of christ, and his spirit. Far closer followers of loving god and their neighbour then homophobic hate filled bible thumpers.

A lot of Christians don't go by the bible anymore, some believe it's outdated. Myself, being a christian, I love everybody for who they are, I'm not going to shove a bible down your throat.

well yes you call yourself a christian, and that is right for your matter, but are you truely a christian, if you ignore what the bible says?
Not really, even though you call yourself that.
I think you are one of the best believers, because you live in faith for what you think is right, not in faith of what others wrote as unchangable fact.

A christian is a christ - ian is a person who follows christ. The bible is not his word. His word is the bible. That is how most christians see things.

As I see it, the bible was wrote by man, and over the period of the thousands of years after the fact, It has been tampered with way too much. I feel as though it no longer holds a true value since being altered by man. Being Christian means, following in the footsteps of Jesus. So I'll do that rather then listen to an outdated book.

But everything you know about jesus is from the bible...

Atheism is the absence of religion. So it's not a religion.

The way I see it, yes Atheism is a religion.
Think of it this way:
You can collect stamps, you can ski, you can run, you can play, etc. Most people see this as being proof against atheism being a religion, but it really supports it since Atheism is like doing nothing. "Nothing" is an action you can perform, because if your action reflects none other than you must be doing "nothing". It's like numbers, if it is no other number, even though it may have no value, "0" is a number for no value. Hence, as "nothing" is an action, and "0" is a value, "Atheism" is a religion.

Actually no its not.
Atheism is belief that there is no god.
Unlike gnosticism its a firm belief, with firm set, its practiced and confirmed in groups, its absolute and it has its prominent thinkers.
Indifferent gnosticism is absence of religion. "I don't know if god exist, I don't think so and whats more I don't care."
Atheism as practiced, especially on internet today, is not just religion, its an evangelical religion.

If you EVER get deeper into the subject, you'll know that it's impossible to say what a religion really is, so for your own definition of religion this might be true but after a long time of learning about religions, I came to the point to call every life-guiding believe, (like atheism), wich is based on what others said, a religion.
You can't ever know everything with proof you are taught to have the believe that there is no god, neither can you proof that there is a god, and that it is the god you belive in.
And atheism is not the lack of religion, it is the believe that there is no god.

Buddhism seems to be what you are talking about. It has no deity (no really, it doesn't), there are no rituals, there is a "prophet" (Gautama Buddha) but really all Buddhism does is say "There is suffering; there is a way to beat it." And yet it's a religion, that anyone can follow. It doesn't match the primary definitions of a religion, yet it is still a religion.

OR we will put all the religious extremists such as yourself, westbro baptist and muslim extremeists on an island where you can all fight for jihad or whatever

atheism is a religion, after all, cause you have to believe that there is no god, what you mean is being agnostic, cause as agnostic you say that you can't know what's right, while as atheist you claim you're right, because you have proof...

well yeah but i mean, i belive there is no god.
thats kinda a belive.
maybe.
plzz.