Wise words. .. Being a christian, I love everybody for who they are, gay bi straight black white rainbow it doesn't matter. So this post is 100% correct. And no, I'm 100% seri Wise words Being a christian I love everybody for who they are gay bi straight black white rainbow it doesn't matter So this post is 100% correct And no I'm seri
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#1 - silverzepher
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(10/27/2013) [-]
not to be rude, but i don't believe harry potter is a real person, so why should i believe a 2000 year old book that not even the people who believe in it can agree what it says.
#2 to #1 - treeboy
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Because it makes them happy and you might as well leave them to it if they aren't hurting anyone.
#5 to #2 - silverzepher
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(10/28/2013) [-]
the act of belief without evidence is harmful.
#6 to #5 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
According to whom? Sure, there are some nutcases who take it too far, but that's the case with every belief and lack thereof, including atheism.

Just look at Canada's hockey fans.
#7 to #6 - silverzepher
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(10/28/2013) [-]
where do we believe without evidence?
#9 to #7 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Every religion ever?
#10 to #9 - silverzepher
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(10/28/2013) [-]
i was asking about athiests, sorry for the confusion.
#12 to #10 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
'Tis all right, I've seen bigger screw-ups in arguments.
#14 to #12 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
And as for me, I was stating about extremism. Which is a plague in and of itself.
#56 to #1 - impo **User deleted account**
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Are you saying Harry Potter isn't real? Then who the **** is the person on the picture, Daniel Radcliffe?
#3 to #1 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
> Not to be rude
Ignoring the ********, one clearly states itself to be a work of fiction, one does not, furthermore, nobody's forcing you to be Christian. Hell, this is the internet, there are probably more people trying to make you become an atheist than there are people trying to get you to believe any of Earth's religions combined.
#21 to #3 - asheskirata
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(10/28/2013) [-]
That last portion is doubtful.
#4 to #3 - silverzepher
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(10/28/2013) [-]
where does it say in harry potter that it is fake? i've never seen it, so if you could show me i would be thankful.
#8 to #4 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Huh.
Checked myself, and it doesn't. Normally books printed in the United States have a little section on the copyright page saying stuff like: | Human Experimentation - Fiction | *********
#11 to #8 - silverzepher
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(10/28/2013) [-]
that would be on the binding, placed there by the same people who refuse to put it on the bible and instead put a religion sticker on it
#13 to #11 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
They do it with all religious texts, as far as I know.

Mainly because, to some [Or many in the case of the Bible, the Koran, and the Hindu texts], it isn't fiction. So why piss them off when you can slap a religion sticker on it and be done with it?
#15 to #13 - silverzepher
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(10/28/2013) [-]
why not do the same with harry potter, other than the fact that we can still talk to the author, and publisher?
#16 to #15 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Because there's no religion backing it, only a fandom.
#17 to #16 - silverzepher
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(10/28/2013) [-]
the difference being?
#18 to #17 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Lack of churches, lack of any real organized structure, lack of 'miracles' of any sort [Epic cosplay does not count], lack of people dying over fandoms... wait, that has probably happened before.
#19 to #18 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
*religious structures
sorry
#20 to #19 - silverzepher
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(10/28/2013) [-]
np here is a definition, tell me if you think it is correct.

religious- a term used to refer to a culture composed of people by a feeling of sympathy and camaraderie with others who share a common religion. The "devoute" typically are interested in even minor details of the object(s) of their religion and spend a significant portion of their time and energy involved with their interest.
#82 to #3 - shadowgandalf
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Forgot to mention, that since we as a species base our world views on facts, religiion have no place in public areas, like school, politic or other authoraties.
#81 to #3 - shadowgandalf
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Last bit is plain wrong, but whatever.
My view in this science vs religiondebate, not atheist vs religion, but SCIENCE vs religion, is that one is based on evidence and represent humanity's understanding of the world and how it works, and the other is just faith, backed up with nothing but "good faith".

IMO, science hold alot more credit than religion ever will. And our species knowleagde, iin ALL fields, is based 100% on science. It dosn't matter if you are a soldier, a politician, a nurse or a hairdresser. You can't avoid using science as a base for your work. Even the Amish apply science in daily life.
Science, unlike religion, is our species knowleagde of how the world works. It is reality as we currently understand it.



TL;DR: Science is NOT some alternative to religion as alot of stupid ***** seems to think, it is our understanding of reality.

There is no debate to make. Religion is religion, it's pure hope and dreams, not reality.





#77 to #3 - tetroll
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(10/28/2013) [-]
They aren't forcing him but people do push their religion on others.
#23 to #3 - crilleballe
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(10/28/2013) [-]
> Nobody is forcing you to be christian.
Ever heard of the bible belt?
#24 to #23 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
I meant online.
#25 to #24 - crilleballe
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(10/28/2013) [-]
oh okay, that's okay then, but i don't think the content, nor silverzepher, is only talking about the internet.
#26 to #25 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
It's not talking about the bible belt either. See the mention of reindeer? Clearly it is talking about the Arctic Circle.
#27 to #26 - crilleballe
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(10/28/2013) [-]
"...hateful person who jams religion down peoples throat."
Clearly it talks about the sort of people that live in the bible belt, as well as reindeer and atheists.
#28 to #27 - friedgreenpomatoes
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(10/28/2013) [-]
And if you look below you to your left, you'll see our joke passing over crilleballe about 35,000 feet below us.

also bigoted asshole Christians are not limited to the Bible Belt. They're pretty common in rural areas of nations with a Christian majority
#29 to #28 - crilleballe
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(10/28/2013) [-]
I don't think that religious oppresion is a joke, but maybe that's just me.
"also bigoted asshole Christians are not limited to the Bible Belt. They're pretty common in rural areas of nations with a Christian majority"
"Clearly it talks about the sort of people that live in the bible belt"
the sort of people
#48 - franklinclinton
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Being a christian, I love everybody for who they are, gay bi straight black white rainbow it doesn't matter. So this post is 100% correct.

And no, I'm ******* 100% serious right now.
#61 - thismustbeseen ONLINE
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(10/28/2013) [-]
"Religions and spirituality are/is silly and not real."

... is that really equivalent to...

"I hate gays and women and if you don't turn to and praise god you're going to burn in hell forever"

I don't think so. Religion is silly, at best. Screw you OP.
#72 to #61 - krakalisk
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(10/28/2013) [-]
I agree with this.
#62 to #61 - ReLigion
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(10/28/2013) [-]
im not silly
im not silly
#59 - themamzingbs
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Shaming religion and blaming religion for many of the worlds atrocities is totally fine. Just because someone is offended doesn't mean they're right, and it doesn't mean that the person who was offensive is wrong.
#74 to #59 - achimp
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Blaming religion for everything that goes wrong is like blaming the concept of government for everything.
"100% of all atrocities were committed by governments or committed under governments that did nothing to stop them! That means all forms of government are stupid! Gov't shaming is OKAY!"

You're attacking a general thing practiced by billions, probably trillions of people based on incidents thousands of years ago. You don't make a compelling argument, either, because it's really easy.
#76 to #74 - anon
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Read it again ******** he said MANY not ALL.
#78 to #76 - achimp
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#79 to #76 - achimp
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Oh, I'm sorry you little ******.

"MANY atrocities were committed by governments or committed under governments that did nothing to stop them! That means all forms of government are stupid! Gov't shaming is okay!"

Does this clear it up ********?

Yeah *******, that doesn't change my argument at all.
#60 to #59 - ReLigion
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(10/28/2013) [-]
i have no shame im a sociopath
i have no shame im a sociopath
#22 - stevegasm
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Being Christian is OK
Being Muslim is OK
Being Jewish is OK
Being Atheist is OK
Being Gay is OK
Being Straight is OK
You know what isn't OK?
Wearing Crocs
Wearing Crocs is not OK
#31 to #22 - lfunnymanl
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(10/28/2013) [-]
**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #6253238 at Safe For Work Random Board ** you didnt mention rape, is rape okay? also is stealing okay?
#39 to #31 - stevegasm
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Oh, I was unaware that I had actually become a moral authority.
Uh, sure, do whatever you want champ. Just as long as you don't wear ******* crocs.
I swear to God, if I catch you wearing crocs, I will ******* break you.
#53 to #39 - lfunnymanl
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(10/28/2013) [-]
**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #51 at Ultra Blastoise **but i like fap while wearing crocs
#54 to #53 - stevegasm
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Did I ******* stutter?
#55 to #54 - lfunnymanl
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(10/28/2013) [-]
**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #157 at Ecards ** did you?
#57 to #55 - stevegasm
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(10/28/2013) [-]
That roll was amazing. I salute you sir
#58 to #57 - lfunnymanl
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(10/28/2013) [-]
**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #62 at Press ← ** no u
**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #62 at Press ← ** no u
#43 - mutzaki
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(10/28/2013) [-]
I'll think certain beliefs are silly no matter what you say. Or shouldn't I be able to think that a middle-aged man believing in Santa has silly beliefs either? Call me a dick if you want to, but I'll continue thinking that belief in the supernatural is only ever not silly if it's held by a child or someone who hasn't had a basic education.
#41 - bakedbread
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Understanding an atheists' frustration:

Everyone around you devotes their lives worshiping Santa Claus, you ask these people "why do you believe in such things? there is no proof, and you gain no reward, why not concentrate on realistic and helpful things?" to which to they reply "WHY U NO BELIVE IN SANTA?! SANTA IS LOVE, SANTA IS LIFE, YU B SORY WEN HE SENDS U TO SOUTH POLE!"
#65 - kommandantvideo
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(10/28/2013) [-]
#40 - rifee
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(10/28/2013) [-]
It's okey to say what you want, as long as you're prepared to face the sonsequences for that.

#36 - taurusguy ONLINE
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(10/28/2013) [-]
Well **** you, i will just go be a satanist then.
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