Well timed. .. I live in D.C. and for the government employees, the ones with actual jobs, alot of resteraunts and cafes were giving away free food for those who couldnt affor
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User avatar #177 - iwasawa (10/02/2013) [+] (14 replies)
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#44 - mondprinzessin (10/02/2013) [-]
I live in D.C. and for the government employees, the ones with actual jobs, alot of resteraunts and cafes were giving away free food for those who couldnt afford it.

Best one i saw: Free food for government employees, No Congressmen alowed
#23 - yodaddysofat ONLINE (10/01/2013) [-]
**yodaddysofat rolled a random image posted in comment #12 at Oh Grandma ** how congress works
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User avatar #48 - tittylovin (10/02/2013) [-]
This whole thing is ****** .
They're essentially taking a vacation while still taxing us for services not provided.
User avatar #57 to #48 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
Great isn't it?
User avatar #126 to #48 - thesinful (10/02/2013) [-]
This is unusual... how?
#1 - kaboomz ONLINE (10/01/2013) [-]
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can someone please explain me what the **** is going on in america?

whats all this "governament shuts down" thing?
User avatar #176 to #1 - moribus (10/02/2013) [-]
happening
User avatar #185 to #1 - nospyonme (10/02/2013) [-]
This anon is basically correct. Every fiscal year the congress and house must pass a federal budget, the budget determines what department gets what money. This year, instead of just passing it, somebody decided that they wouldn't pass it unless we actually were spending less money than we were taking in. As apposed to the previous decade where everyone would look at the deficit and say something like “lets just borrow it from China” or “lets increase taxes”

I could go on for a while like this, but the thing you need to understand, is that the states will continue to function on their own absent the federal government.
#188 to #1 - swagbot (10/02/2013) [-]
U.S. Federal Gov't is broke.

Usually, we'd just print more Federal Reserve Notes ("U.S. Dollars") and force your countries to buy them (b/c you need them to buy oil from most Saudi-controlled countries), but that's getting tough, so we have to actually start monitoring how much we spend and making tough decisions about what to cut.
User avatar #219 to #1 - ProWig (10/02/2013) [-]
id go look it up alot of people replied to you and they dont even know.
User avatar #222 to #1 - animedudej (10/02/2013) [-]
was watching this on norwegian news last a couple days ago and i was like "HA! and i though our butter crisis was bad!"
User avatar #2 to #1 - ryuuk (10/01/2013) [-]
basically the government shut down because Congress didn't pass a funding bill ahead of Monday's midnight deadline for the end of the 2013 fiscal year. The democrats and Republicans sat around bitching at each other and instead of agreeing on something and now we dont have a govt.
User avatar #3 to #2 - alanflindt (10/01/2013) [-]
Is that seriously what happened? thats ******* ridiculous
User avatar #7 to #3 - malific (10/01/2013) [-]
No. The level of ignorance in these comments is astounding.

The government did not shut down, it's a phrase politicians use to scare the ignorant and then they blame the "shut down" on the other party to make voters mad at them.

While ryuuk is right that the congress didn't pass a budget by a deadline, the only things that shut down are things like national museums, parks, and monuments. IE "non essential" government funded facilities. The IRS, Social Security, Medicare, FBI Military, CIA and all those things are still running just fine, as is all of the branches of government that run the US.

The workers that are currently on Furlough will receive all the back pay for the days they're missing once congress passes a budget.

All the talk about this being some major economical or social tragedy and how it's going to hurt the country is just a bunch of BS people are saying so they can lay blame on others and get votes from ignorant ************* that only listen to whatever their particular political party tells them via the TV.
User avatar #11 to #7 - xtane (10/01/2013) [-]
THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THIS UP SIR!!

I'm Canadian and have been sitting here going what happened? How can a government just turn off?

You're useful. Good job
(btw your government still confuses me)

User avatar #20 to #11 - reaperriley ONLINE (10/01/2013) [-]
Yeah, its confusing to us We literally have just mass groups of people who don't know what they are talking about (both sides) and they are told what the affordable health care act says and they stick with it. Completely pig headed.

Just.... sigh..... Im just gonna move to Canada.
User avatar #21 to #20 - xtane (10/01/2013) [-]
Canada is nice. We don't shut down ;)
User avatar #34 to #21 - reaperriley ONLINE (10/02/2013) [-]
Im more liberal anyways. So works for me.
User avatar #60 to #11 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
I'm just amazed that everyone is painting this with such negativity. Last time there was a shutdown growth went up. But right now, everyone is too busy bitching about everyone else to actually do anything about it. Ugh. I've got to go to work.
User avatar #109 to #60 - xtane (10/02/2013) [-]
I just find it really weird that this HAS happened before.
When I was trying to look up some information about it I saw a headline saying it was the first time it happened in 18 years and I has sitting there like 'what the hell, this has happened before?!? In my life time even?!?! How?!'
Haha
User avatar #114 to #109 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
Yeah, I can't remember how many times exacly, but ts a little under 20 if memory serves. Its been shut down for months at a time.
User avatar #118 to #114 - xtane (10/02/2013) [-]
Serious?!? Holy balls.
All due respect but your gov is ridiculous!!
User avatar #202 to #118 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
Well, its about time to be honest. Weve passed a continuing resolution on an unsustainable budget for so long that now no one knows what to do with the bill we've left ourselves. On top of that we've raised the debt for so long that now we don't know anything else. Its about time there was a serious emergency that they can't dodge, just like what's happening now. Sure, they'll try and blame one another from now untill this is behind us, bit the truth of the matter is this. The party is finally over and now its finally time to grow up and clean up the mess we've made. Its not going to be fun. A lot of gov. Employees are going to be perminantly out of work. We aren't going to fund nearly as many projects, and that's going to make a lot of people very angry. But, I don't care. We need to come to terms with the fact that we ****** up. We collectively ****** up for generations.
#47 to #11 - anonmynous (10/02/2013) [-]
Our government confuses us too. I think that's the whole idea. Make things so convaluded that you can pretty much do anything you want and no one can figure out what the hell that really means.
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User avatar #154 to #148 - malific (10/02/2013) [-]
BTW you still have me blocked after our "discussion" on your anti-Semite content.
User avatar #151 to #148 - malific (10/02/2013) [-]
Yeah I have a huge problem with the US welfare system. I personally see it as the #1 reason Black in our country have such poor communities.

I wouldn't mind it so much if there was more policing of who it was given to and for what reasons, but to my mind nothing stops the growth of a person like giving them a hand out for not doing anything.

Sadly the democrats see the welfare system as "easy votes" so they'll never let it die, and so many people are dependent on it now (whether they deserve it or not) That the repubs are too afraid of the backlash removing it would cause.
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User avatar #167 to #157 - malific (10/02/2013) [-]
Yeah, idea of free health care is great, but that's not what this is over here. The "Affordable Care Act" isn't free healthcare. It's government run health insurance. Insurance they are forcing everyone to buy.

It's actually rather insidious how they are making it work. They are trying to transition to completely government controlled health care, which I think the latest poll was saying about 78% of the US was against.

They get the law passed by saying you don't HAVE to buy their policy (which is true) and if you do buy it, you get to keep your current plans and doctors (which is not true).

The insidious part is the regulations they put in on current health insurance providers, which will basically force them to go out of business in about 5-10 years. Since the Government policies don't have to follow those same regulations and don't have to make a profit that means the government will then become the only provider of health Insurance. So in the end you WILL have to buy the government health insurance, AND it won't be free.

Then once you're on the government dole for Healthcare, they get to decide what you do and don't get to have. And since all the other options have gone out of business you're pretty much ****** if you need some sort of life saving surgery, they say 'no' and you can't pay for it out of pocket. Where with the current system you can shop around multiple providers until you can find a 'yes'. It would be expensive, but not as much as paying out of pocket for it.

The other side of that.. even if it was free, I'd be against it simply on the grounds the Us simply can't afford it and the 'no' would be popping up for even MORE stuff while they try to cut the costs.
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User avatar #169 to #155 - malific (10/02/2013) [-]
No worries, on the blocking. I personally don't do it simply because even If I absolutely hate what someone is saying to me... I'm always interested in what they're going to say next.

Makes me think of the movie "Private Parts" which is about Howard Stern. Some execs in the movie were talking about his ratings. The conversation was this:

Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.
Pig Vomit: How can that be?
Researcher: Answer most commonly given? "I want to see what he'll say next."
Pig Vomit: Okay, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?
Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.
Pig Vomit: But... if they hate him, why do they listen?
Researcher: Most common answer? "I want to see what he'll say next."


That's pretty much me talking to people here on FJ.
User avatar #39 to #7 - sketchE (10/02/2013) [-]
actually the national guard is taking a hit. all of our technicians arent getting paid
User avatar #135 to #39 - malific (10/02/2013) [-]
Everyone not currently getting paid while working will receive full back pay once a funding bill is past, that's how it works every time this happens. it happened 6 times back during the reagan years and those were the best economic years this country has had seen since the 50's.
User avatar #138 to #135 - sketchE (10/02/2013) [-]
true but its still a problem while they arent getting paid. bills still need to be paid even if the government isnt paying you
User avatar #141 to #138 - malific (10/02/2013) [-]
Yes, that's true. No doubt the shut down will hurt selective people. It's simply going But it's not nearly as bad for the entire country as the politicians are making it out to be.

They just want to beat that "crisis drum" so they can point fingers at everyone else.
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User avatar #26 to #7 - nitsuan (10/01/2013) [-]
And for once, someone here seems to actually speak some sense on this issue. Thank you for shedding light on this accurately and not just saying "Us is broke so they stoped working"
User avatar #8 to #7 - kaboomz ONLINE (10/01/2013) [-]
damm america is in pretty bad shape
User avatar #10 to #8 - malific (10/01/2013) [-]
America itself is actually not too, bad it's our politicians that seem to have gone downhill in the last 15 or years.
User avatar #13 to #10 - kalima (10/01/2013) [-]
We need Clinton back. Either one is fine, she ruled last time anyway.
User avatar #40 to #13 - sketchE (10/02/2013) [-]
except you know the benghazi thing
User avatar #137 to #13 - malific (10/02/2013) [-]
Yeah I would have much prefered hillary to this Obama. Obama was only a senator for 2 years before he got nominated. He has dick for experience in this sort of thing. Bill was a Governor first, and I would pick a governor over a congressman or senator anyday since they are the 'head honcho' of their state, which is much more like being president than a congressman.

And the of course hillary has defacto experience being Bill's wife. All in all Obama simply wasn't qualified, the only reason he got nominated over Hillary is because he was a good speaker when he had a teleprompter in front of him and he was black.
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User avatar #38 to #2 - sketchE (10/02/2013) [-]
to be more precise government funded positions have been shut down. the people in congress are unnaffected
#9 to #1 - anon (10/01/2013) [-]
Congress did not pass a budget ,they kept using Last years budget which is called Continued Resolution. On October 1 New budget starts and old one ends. So U.S congress is unable to pass a law to fund the government for example , they don't have legal way to Pay the Employees of US govt 800,000 are sent home.,therefore Shutting down the US government.
#199 to #1 - ironsoul ONLINE (10/02/2013) [-]
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User avatar #4 to #1 - traelos (10/01/2013) [-]
The government is ceasing all funding for a little while, prolly like a week.

It's just to control spending, kind of like a business doing a furlough day.

That being said it's not all spending, the government didn't actually shut down, just a fiscal freeze. They've done it a couple times before.
User avatar #37 to #4 - sketchE (10/02/2013) [-]
basicly everyone but congress men arent getting paid. ******** i say
User avatar #41 to #37 - traelos (10/02/2013) [-]
I don't ******* care.

I'm not on a government paycheck so it really doesn't affect me.
User avatar #42 to #41 - sketchE (10/02/2013) [-]
im military so knowing all of my technicians arent getting paid bothers me quite a bit
User avatar #43 to #42 - traelos (10/02/2013) [-]
Yep.

**** like this happens though. If you worked for private sector they'd have laid half of them off by now or they'd be furloughing anyway.
#19 to #1 - anon (10/01/2013) [-]
The government is nearing the ceiling for the highest amount of debt allowable. Since the ceiling was not raised, the government shuts down everything it can, as it is fast approaching the point where it will not have any legal ability to pay for anything, as doing so would require going further into debt than the ceiling.

Congress (made up of the democrat controlled Senate and republican controlled House of Representatives) tried to pass a bill to raise the ceiling several times. The House's version of the bill kept including the delay or the removal of the Affordable Care Act, which the Senate is unwilling to budge on.

This all stems from the fight between the Republicans and Democrats over the Affordable Care Act, as Republicans think it's a terrible idea, and Democrats think it's a wonderful idea.

The rest of us are sitting back and wondering why we elected 8-year-olds, and how they got into those old men's bodies.
User avatar #14 to #1 - mylazy (10/01/2013) [-]
What anon said. More detail is that the republicans wanna cut spending on various the next time the law is passed. One of those things was funding for the affordable care and patient protection act. They wanted some of the programs for that to be delayed one year. They refuse to pass a law that doesn't cut spending. The democrats refuse to cut spending. As long as they can't pass a law that raises the debt ceiling they have to cut all non-essential jobs in the government, which they call "shutting down the government". Since neither side will give ground it is unknown how long this will last. The democrats have done a good job of blaming it solely on the republicans, but really it is both their faults.
User avatar #186 to #14 - nospyonme (10/02/2013) [-]
I like how they took the weekend of, showed up on Monday, looked at the problem like "we are way to hungover to solve this today" then renamed it the "republican shutdown"
#6 to #1 - anon (10/01/2013) [-]
Basicly the US government is incredibly ******* broke. And everytime they reach their legal debt ceiling they pass a new law that lets them get just a bit more in debt or print a little more money.
This time, that law wasnt passed in time.
User avatar #91 to #6 - mutantpanda (10/02/2013) [-]
Actually this wasn't the debt ceiling. They didn't appropriate the budget by the end of the fiscal year, which they never do. But this time they did not approve the thing that lets them keep spending like they were the year before until they finalize appropriations, which is what they normally do every year. This happened because the republicans don't want Obamacare to pass.
User avatar #172 to #6 - YoursTruley (10/02/2013) [-]
why was this thumbed up? its wrong info....
User avatar #17 to #6 - lfunnymanl (10/01/2013) [-]
but hey atleast we arent taxing the rich more. im sorry i meant the job creators

bring on the red thumbs if you must
#31 to #17 - grandterskrasao (10/02/2013) [-]
taxing the rich won't solve our problems.
#46 to #31 - lfunnymanl (10/02/2013) [-]
**lfunnymanl rolled a random image posted in comment #15132 at Television - cartoon network, toonami, adult swim ** giving them government subsidies will?
#171 to #46 - anon (10/02/2013) [-]
Did you just roll a barrel of oil?

If that's a barrel of oil, then it's highly appropriate for this discussion
User avatar #207 to #171 - huntergriff ONLINE (10/02/2013) [-]
It's a barrel of methlamyne...and it's actually a DVD case for breaking bad.
#76 to #31 - zionsype (10/02/2013) [-]
Yes it will.
It will result in more money and more money means less debt.
User avatar #112 to #76 - hasanaat (10/02/2013) [-]
Then why haven't all the countries started robbing the rich till their last penny?

Please take an economics class.
#103 to #76 - anon (10/02/2013) [-]
If that were true then the increase in taxes over the years would put us in a major surplus. Throwing money at a government that clearly doesn't know how to handle it won't solve their money problems, better budgeting will. Until they figure out how to work within their means, allowing them to take more money will only make things worse for everyone, or at least the rich, but who cares about the rich, right?
#203 to #103 - anon (10/02/2013) [-]
Exactly. **** you, rich people. ;O
User avatar #127 to #76 - thisisyoface (10/02/2013) [-]
Lmao, you are so wrong in so many ways, the government can't just print off money and get themselves out of dept. The debt comes from trading with other countries, causing us to owe substantial amounts which we cannot pay back. The reason we can't pay back is because our printed money has basically no meaning in other countries unless backed up by gold, which is why we value ink'd paper as something worth trading. Without gold as the value, represented by our currency, there would be no point in using the currency.
User avatar #110 to #17 - hasanaat (10/02/2013) [-]
>taxing the rich
Taxing anybody now is really harmful to the US economy, be it lower class or millionaire.
User avatar #161 to #6 - racistwaffle (10/02/2013) [-]
its literally like death row with endless court appeals.
User avatar #133 to #6 - crimsontyyde (10/02/2013) [-]
Nono, this was an Obama Care debate, Republicans want some parts to be defunded, and the Democrats are going to the media trying to make it out to be they want the whole thing defunded so they look bad, but right now they both look ****** .
User avatar #62 to #6 - Zaxplab (10/02/2013) [-]
I'm no politic, but doesn't that seem like a bit of an over reaction?


We can't agree on a law? Shut.... down...... everything.....
#86 to #62 - jabzilla (10/02/2013) [-]
"About the Government Shut Down, I'll explain. Basically congress every year has to pass a bill that finances the American Government, and this year the house ( Which majority Republicans) was refusing to pass the bill unless they postponed Obamacare or at least made changes to it. The problem is, the Senate, which is run by democrats, refuses to pass anybill with changes to Obamacare so there was a huge stalemate and no one would compromise. Now before you think it is the Houses fault, you have to know a few things. First of all, the senate is acusing the House of not compromising, but as the date drew closer, the Senate refused to meet to make any proposals so they didn't contribute much to setlement either. And if you're wonder why Obamacare is important in any way, its sort of because obamacare legislature was approved without any consent from the republican party and costs 1/6 of the national economy. So Republicans are a bit pissed off and hellbent on getting rid of it, even if it means that the government will be shut down. And by government shutdown, that means about 700.000 government workers will be "unemployed" as of tomorrow morning at 10 am. These workers are deemed unnecessary or not as important to the continuation of our government. People like Park rangers, some public relations people and such. This happened last in 1995 for about 20 days, and while government shutdown of a few days shows no real signifigant effect on the US, one of over a week would be some real problems."
------this is what I saw from an earlier post about it
User avatar #152 to #86 - loltrosity (10/02/2013) [-]
But remember this: Unless you really gave a **** about ur job in the government, nobody should care. I went to school, My parents and brother did their thing, and all was just a normal day. Over-payed government employees aren't working, which means no money for them, so they act like its the end of the world. And blame republicans about it.
User avatar #236 to #6 - lemonpepsiking (10/02/2013) [-]
this isnt about the debt ceiling, this is about passing a budget for the next year. The debt ceiling will be reached in a few weeks though, so that will be fun.
#224 to #6 - anon (10/02/2013) [-]
I just don't understand how this can happen from one day to the other, like "Murica, best country in the wo.. what do you mean we're out of money? Sheet"
User avatar #217 to #6 - ogvind ONLINE (10/02/2013) [-]
So... how long will it be untill the U.S.A is back? And exactly what are the negative things that happens because of this..?
#166 to #6 - ThekidsTEN (10/02/2013) [-]
This is simply untrue. This thing has happened quite frequently (17 times since the late 70's). All that is going on is the senate has not approved a budget, so the government naturally shuts down all non-essential programs (ie libraries, parks etc.). We have the ability to make more then we spend (US tax collection is at an all time high), we just continue to spend on non-essentials. So we will continue to work with a stripped government until the senate passes it's budget.
User avatar #187 to #166 - nospyonme (10/02/2013) [-]
I like this stripped government, national parks are now free with bolt cutters, it's not like anyone is being paid to stop you right now.
#164 to #6 - anon (10/02/2013) [-]
yea except that's total ******** right there..
User avatar #153 to #6 - daentraya (10/02/2013) [-]
US government is hilarious
User avatar #149 to #6 - loltrosity (10/02/2013) [-]
Or, to put it in a more literal terms, the House and the Senate have to agree on the government's spending for the upcoming year, and the Senate was bitching about the defunding attempt at obamacare so they delayed the bill that allowed the government to spend money, therefore people who work for the government aren't getting payed. So they are bitching about basically the end of the world as they know it. Mainly because they crae more baout their pension then the people. Just sayin.
User avatar #142 to #6 - cocoman (10/02/2013) [-]
That sounds like an epic description for a thriller book
User avatar #116 to #6 - Soviet Savior (10/02/2013) [-]
thats actually a different argument thats going to happen in a few months, whats going on now is there is not enough money to pay many federal workers such as park rangers and passport office workers.
User avatar #105 to #6 - xxl (10/02/2013) [-]
Thats the debt ceiling which is coming up oct 17 the shutdown is b/c those stubborn ***** wont pass a new govt budget.
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#45 - lmaobutts (10/02/2013) [-]
What the government is doing about the shutting of downs?
What the government is doing about the shutting of downs?
User avatar #49 to #45 - johnthunda (10/02/2013) [-]
o
User avatar #208 to #45 - debramster (10/02/2013) [-]
Anyone have source on this?
User avatar #117 to #50 - traveltech (10/02/2013) [-]
But, isn't a government shutdown basically Ron Paul's entire platform?
#12 - include (10/01/2013) [-]
The US government.
#168 - luckyxiii (10/02/2013) [-]
because its the only relevant thing I have
#204 to #168 - anon (10/02/2013) [-]
don't worry, it's pretty damn accurate
User avatar #65 - haker (10/02/2013) [-]
people are acting like this is new. Congress has been acting like spoiled children for years. They REFUSE to compromise and just try to stop whichever other one is in power. This was an inevitability in a nation of absolutes. When we cant take out heads out of our asses long enough to see that there are good arguments from both sides then we will continue to decline as a nation. Compromise was the aim of the party system, but its devolved to 2 fat kids yelling about who's right about a tv show's ending. "No MY interpretation is right, your arguments hold no merit because they dont exactly match mine." The fact it took people this long to take an interest is appalling, and its costing people their lives. We cant blame congress for this, its our fault. The U.S. was meant to be a nation by the people, for the people. And the people wanted a peaceful life that didnt require any effort. We became complacent, and then we allowed our government to see us as figures and not people. Its no surprise that they are all so corrupt. We didnt want anyone that would stand up and tell us whats wrong, we wanted to think everything was fine. The people are complacent to swallow their lies, but as soon as they are revealed to be lies people act appalled. We are the ones with the power to change this, but we arent willing to put forth the effort. As a nation we have become weak, and have let ourselves be ruled by the corrupt. We brought this on ourselves.
User avatar #55 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
Yes, all the museums and national parks are closed. It's not like the police and firemen are all being sent home. Hospitals are still open, and emergency personnel are there if you need them. Just cancel your plans for going to the museum this weekend.
#170 to #55 - anon (10/02/2013) [-]
Except the people who run that museum and every employee that runs and cleans and guards it is now unemployed. I want you to understand that, 800, 000 people are now unemployed until America's government can fix itself. I want you to understand that this matters, goddammit.
#61 to #55 - awildniglet (10/02/2013) [-]
Not the museums!
Not the museums!
#70 to #61 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
The museums!
The museums!
#71 to #70 - awildniglet (10/02/2013) [-]
Dear God, what have they done?
Dear God, what have they done?
#173 - thelastelephant ONLINE (10/02/2013) [-]
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User avatar #66 - demonictoasters (10/02/2013) [-]
Those people actually serve a purpose. Lets talk about all those people you pay to sit around and do nothing but will take away money and jobs front hose who need it most. While they tons of money a year screwing their own people over. How about that? How about the soldiers going without pay? Don't be such a selfish cunt, you aren't the only one who pays taxes and if you aren't somewhat miffed about whats going on, you are obviously a moron.
#51 - schodingerscat (10/02/2013) [-]
people, the government isn't some almighty group of benevoulant rulers who keep us safe and can dissappear. we the people are the governement we are the ones who maintain, build and repair infostruchture, the ones who clean and supply water, the ones who supply electricity and internet and the ones who maintain laws, the justice system and peace. not a group of wealthy congressmen. all they do is try and impose there on interests onto the country so much so that the actually shut down their entire system just because they couldn't impose their interests onto the rest of us.
#52 to #51 - dreamcast (10/02/2013) [-]
Tell this to the 800,000 people who are left without a job during this shut down. Also tell it to the people that are going to be laid off because of this.
User avatar #56 to #52 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
You mean the 800,000 people who I'm paying to do nothing all day but sit behind a desk at a museum or park? Schools are still open. As is the police station. Name one department that was shut down that is necessary for the rest of the country to keep moving forward.
#63 to #56 - dreamcast (10/02/2013) [-]
Women, Infants, and Children funding will be cut off, The Department of Housing and Urban Development will not be able to provide local housing authorities with additional money for housing vouchers, The Department of Homeland Security will no longer operate its E-Verify program, which means that businesses will not be able to check on the legal immigration status of prospective employees during the shutdown. Although agencies like the FBI and the Drug Enforcement Agency will continue their operations, the Justice Department will suspend many civil cases for as long as the government is shut down. . The Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which oversees the vast U.S. derivatives market, will largely shut down.Some key benefits will continue and the VA hospitals will remained open. But many services will be disrupted. The Veterans Benefits Administration will be unable to process education and rehabilitation benefits. The Board of Veterans' Appeals will be unable to hold hearings.
What's more, if the shutdown lasts for more than two or three weeks, the Department of Veterans Affairs has said that it may not have enough money to pay disability claims and pension payments. That could affect some 3.6 million veterans.

That enough?
User avatar #67 to #63 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
I guess it's about time that everything, and every one you just listed needs to figure out a way to either a) stop depending on a government run by children for their next meal. or b) figure out a way to get these services to those who need them, and not the people who are depending on them for no reason. I don't see how it's my problem that these people have been living decadently off of the sweat of my back while I can't even afford real food.
User avatar #64 to #56 - dreamcast (10/02/2013) [-]
You may not be effect but many people will be. I happen to be one of them.
User avatar #68 to #64 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
I'm sorry for your pain and suffering. What I'm about to say is going to seem insensitive, because it is. The party is over. We are in debt way over our head and it's high time that we pull the plug on a lot of the stuff we spend money on. I think we should start by not paying for Europe's continental defense. We give a hilarious amount of money to other countries so that they can afford all kinds of social programs that we could be providing to ourselves if we would just stop paying for their military budget. Time to stop being the world cop and check up on our own citizens.
User avatar #75 to #68 - dreamcast (10/02/2013) [-]
I will manage though. I am only effected through wick and maybe the court. My daughters mother is on the wick program and depends on it heavily. I happen to have a job so I can cover the expences for food. Just leaves less money for me to be able to actually see my daughter.
User avatar #72 to #68 - dreamcast (10/02/2013) [-]
I agree with you 100% on that one actually lol. About the other comment though I was simply delivering your requested shut down departments. It's isn't just as simple as people coming up with a solution either. In our day and age we are more dependant on our governemnt than ever.
User avatar #97 to #72 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
And if you ask me, this is the problem. There are too many people who would rather rely on the gov. than be uncomfrtable. I qualify for food stamps, and a lot of other things beside, but I don't NEED these things. I can scrape by just fine on my own.
User avatar #107 to #97 - dreamcast (10/02/2013) [-]
Well at first we did really need it. The cost of formula was way to much for us to both handle without jobs living with my parents. At this point thought I think my ex could survive without it. She is also suppose to start working. We will se how that all plays out though.
User avatar #113 to #107 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
Yep. I know my share of people like this. I'm even friends with a few like this. I don't like it,but tthat's the way they choose to live their life, and its not my busness to tell them to stop. I just really wish they would realize that they're taking resources from people who may actually need them.
User avatar #143 to #113 - dreamcast (10/02/2013) [-]
Exactually.
#223 to #56 - anon (10/02/2013) [-]
im pretty sure the FDA is important
User avatar #235 to #223 - thelastamerican (10/02/2013) [-]
You mean the department in the hip pocket of every major food producing company in the US? Yeah, Monsanto wants to put something on the market and the FDA rubber stamps it without running actual lab tests of their own first. That seems like a really honest, and useful government body.
#73 to #51 - victorianfancyman (10/02/2013) [-]
**victorianfancyman rolled a random image posted in comment #26 at Cyndaquil ** gimmi sum of dat fine ass infostructure son
User avatar #95 - elmilius (10/02/2013) [-]
Would anybody care to explain to a foreigner what the **** is happening?
User avatar #145 to #95 - yuukoku (10/02/2013) [-]
All federal government institutions are still being paid for, but they won't see that check until after the government... uh... turns back on per se. That means certain areas such as national parks and NASA will all be vacated (except for Houston, as they kind of need to be there for the people who are in ******* space- it would be scary to just be there with nobody listening to you. Completely alone. Utter blackness.). They'll still be paid. Think of it as a paid vacation. However, the military and secret service still work, they just don't get paid until the political monkeys finish throwing poo at each other.
User avatar #146 to #145 - yuukoku (10/02/2013) [-]
The Republican party, who controls the House of Representatives, is not allowing something to be passed that the Senate, which is controlled by the Democratic party, wants passed. It would essentially seal in Obamacare, which has caused much debate and even got in the way of a minor surgery that I was having, mind you. Disregarding my personal problems, these two groups of schoolyard bullies in suits are now going at it in order to come to a consensus, but the Republican party and the Democratic party refuse to even speak to each other on the matter.

They're both acting like spoiled children because they can't just talk about their problems. Yes, the Republicans are acting spoiled by shutting down the federal government because of Obamacare, but the Democrats are just as bad because of how they completely disregard the will of another large group in stead of looking for a solution that can be agreed on from both sides.
User avatar #218 to #146 - robrt ONLINE (10/02/2013) [-]
As far as I understand the Senate is not even considering to sit at the table. This does it mean that the House is right! Who cares for Obamacare? Just look at the health care system in Europe.
User avatar #159 to #146 - yuukoku (10/02/2013) [-]
It also really ***** with the stock market. Just putting that out there. Don't expect any anarchistic uprisings or complete destruction of society in the U.S. or anything.
User avatar #229 to #159 - andriod (10/02/2013) [-]
To the contrary the stock market seems completely indifferent of the shut down so far.
User avatar #209 to #145 - durkadurka (10/02/2013) [-]
The military is being paid as usual.
User avatar #147 to #145 - justsomechickyo (10/02/2013) [-]
I they're not getting paid at all for the time they aren't working.....my dad works for the government and however long this shutdown lasts he won't see a dime for it
User avatar #156 to #147 - yuukoku (10/02/2013) [-]
What department is he working in? Because, to my understanding, they're being compensated for all the time that the federal government is not making them work. State-government departments are not applicable because it's the state government and not the federal government, but that shouldn't be a problem because they're still working. That's why schools are still running.
User avatar #158 to #156 - justsomechickyo (10/02/2013) [-]
He works for the USDA FSA and nope......anyone being furloughed b/c of this won't be compensated......
User avatar #160 to #158 - yuukoku (10/02/2013) [-]
I'm gunna have to talk to someone about that tomorrow. Thanks for telling me about this. As I said, however, the military is still getting paid as well as the Secret Service, the FBI, and the CIA.
User avatar #162 to #160 - justsomechickyo (10/02/2013) [-]
Well ya I guess that's right.....but like departments of the govt aren't getting paid. Like the fda and any kind of tourist parks and such. Plus it's so damn technical I'm sure something is flawed
User avatar #163 to #162 - yuukoku (10/02/2013) [-]
Oh! Now I remember! Yes, yes. Certain departments aren't getting paid! That's what the argument today was about. We were talking about how NASA wasn't getting paid along with other government institutions that aren't needed for national security.
User avatar #165 to #163 - justsomechickyo (10/02/2013) [-]
Hey that's right! Yay I think we figured it out lol
#100 to #95 - lordaurion (10/02/2013) [-]
It's basically just a freeze on government spending for a bit. Non, completely essential entities like congress are shut down for a bit and budgets are cut back. It's happened dozens of times before they just weren't called "shutdowns".
User avatar #102 to #100 - elmilius (10/02/2013) [-]
Oh, well that's disappointing. I was hoping for some kind of rebellion to rise up or something...
User avatar #128 to #102 - redrex (10/02/2013) [-]
these things are the kind of crap that start depressions in our economy
User avatar #104 to #102 - gildemoono (10/02/2013) [-]
Technically speaking, America is an anarchist state right now. Although many services such as the post office and the defense department are deemed essential and will continue to function, if the government doesnt resolve this soon, money will dry up.
User avatar #106 to #104 - elmilius (10/02/2013) [-]
Does that mean if I go over there in the next few days, I could start up a revolution and be the leader of a new US? With blackjack and hookers?
#206 to #106 - whargarbler (10/02/2013) [-]
Go for it. We could use a new one. Bring some mates. They can be congress.   
   
 Don't forget the blackjack and hookers.
Go for it. We could use a new one. Bring some mates. They can be congress.

Don't forget the blackjack and hookers.
#120 to #106 - goalstopper (10/02/2013) [-]
Revolution
Revolution
#108 to #106 - reaperboy (10/02/2013) [-]
Heck i would be fine with just the hookers. you my friend, earned a new citizen of your republic
User avatar #111 to #106 - troflmao (10/02/2013) [-]
Please do.
#225 to #106 - anon (10/02/2013) [-]
Nope. We have state police and soldiers still
#125 to #100 - sloot (10/02/2013) [-]
Actually congress is still getting paid because in the constitution it says congress may never alter their own pay (seriously **** our government). This little stunt is going to add anywhere from a billion dollars or more to our debt. Because yet again our country has two pointless political parties that think they are infallible and would rather hurt american citizens than man the **** up and act like adults
#123 to #95 - sliferzpwns (10/02/2013) [-]
America's Reactor has gone critical, we just installed a new one, but we have to cycle it for a few days before it is fully operational.
America's Reactor has gone critical, we just installed a new one, but we have to cycle it for a few days before it is fully operational.
User avatar #124 to #123 - elmilius (10/02/2013) [-]
So, after all the jokes, you are turning it off and on?
User avatar #227 to #124 - andriod (10/02/2013) [-]
Basically.


How long it stays off depend on how long it will take the apposing politicians to pull their heads out of their asses
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