Its also a good plan to leave a trace of a kidnapping even if they are gonna kidnap and rape you. Girl was kidnapped at my school and they knew she was gone within 5 minutes because someone found her backpack and books thrown everywhere. Police had the area locked down stat and they got the guy trying to U around from a police checkpoint.
interesante, la verdad no se donde estava guanajuato asi que lo ise google haha
Yo soy de San Diego, al otro lado de la frontera de Tijuana.
Tengo familiares en tijuana y san francisco
y creo que mis abuelos son de sinaloa pero ya mas de eso ya no se
naci en san diego, vivi asta los 14 en tijuana, y luego me mude otra vez a usa
fierro pariente
explica mas de la situacion porque no nomas la gente se compra unos rifles para proteccion como aqui en Merica
La situación es muy compleja. La miseria, la ignorancia y la búsqueda de dinero fácil + el desprecio a la vida humana es lo que impera aquà en nuestro paÃs.
Por menos de lo que hizo la chava del gif, cientos de persona mueren acá.
Ah, pero si un policÃa o un ciudadano les pega un tiro al maleante, a ellos los meten a la cárcel.
y es por eso que a los del norte no les gusta la gente del sur :v
>por mil pesos, apoco tan pobres andan aya? ke pedo
yo nomas digo que apoyo a los ciudadanos que toman armas y se ponen al tiro con los narcos y los policias, la gente deve de protejerse
Mexico needs some Merican freedom in guns
no te a tocado ver las personas pobres y traen iphone nuevo
hahaha ke pedo con eso? puro robado
ke tiene ke uno sea el malo
lo importante es sobrevivir ps
Some guy stole my phone from my hand once and started running. I yelled, "Get on the ******* ground or I will shoot you!" I was bluffing, didn't even have a gun. But he put his hands in the air, got on his knees and placed my phone on the ground in front of him. I grabbed it and said, "That's what I ******* thought. Get the **** outta here." I love America.
Well that trick worked perfectly here, but if some ****** ever tries to steal my laptop case, I think I'd rather run, or maybe try and tackle him once he has it.
These posts usually get red-thumbed by Americans, for whom tackling a mugger is probably a death sentence since he's likely to have a gun, making the poster (me) look like some heroic moron, but in the UK, or at least this relatively quiet part of the UK, the majority of street criminals carry no weapons, and all you'd really have to do is stop them running and threaten to call the police, and they'll give you your **** back. I speak from experience.
thecraftedmine, I wonder if you'd like a more serious answer...?
If you would, here it is:
UK muggers, if armed, will carry knives rather than guns. If unarmed, they're more likely to attack by purse-snatching or in groups, so they can simply hold a target and take everything of value from them. I do know a guy who had his phone stolen at knife-point in Glasgow, and nobody even stepped in to help.
I think that if I were attacked by somebody with a knife, I probably would have to just let them get away with my stuff.
And yet the US has more gun violence and police kills by firearm per capita than pretty much anywhere in the EU...
The thing about being allowed a deadly weapon is that people don't make great decisions when they're angry, drunk or scared. In the right circumstances and equipped for it, it would be easy to take a life and do time in jail, or worse. Anyone could make a stupid decision and pay for it for the rest of their life.
I'll put it this way:
The only people in my area who own guns more serious than air rifles are farmers. They occasionally use them to shoot foxes preying on their poultry or to scare of crop-wrecking birds.
Even in the area of Glasgow where that guy was robbed, probably only one person in 10,000 is carrying a knife. It's not a common place (this particular area; I can't speak for most of the city) for this kind of crime; my friend just got unlucky.
I don't know anybody who carries any kind of weapon. I don't know anybody who is so paranoid about being attacked that they feel the need to defend themselves on a day-to-day basis. In fact, if I knew somebody who did feel that they needed to defend themselves in this area, I'd be more inclined to think he's losing his mind than he's in any kind of real danger.
This is the catch-22 of the American approach to guns. You talk about needing to defend yourself by owning a gun, but you only need to have one because anyone on the street could have one for all you know. The police shoot people dead just for making a movement that suggests they might have a gun. Living in a world where pissing off the wrong person can earn you a nice bullet shaped badge on your chest might make it so that EU laws make no sense to Americans, but in my pokey little country, the opposite is true. We live without any fear of guns, and we don't understand why you'd want that added danger on the streets.
Don't you find it redundant to compare the gun-violence between two areas when one area has guns banned, rather than violent crime as a whole?
A more accurate representation is two key statistics; Violent Crime as a whole, and Homicide. The UK has a much higher violent crime rate, but the US has a higher homicide rate, for instance.
Simply looking at gun-crime when violent-crime would include that statistic is just plain silly.
just going to throw this out there there are towns in america where everyone has a gun and the crime rate is realllllllly low link to article here www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/
just something i found in google
even though it s old still an accomplishment showing it is not guns that make people violent and cause issues it is the people behind them but i will say your third point of " hood negreos" is the reason many people do have guns. in areas with many hood negreos with illegally obtained guns one feels safer with a weapon such as a gun the problem lies in that fact that banning guns does not do anything for these "hood negreos " with illegal weapons also i will admit kinda just posted those before i went to bed and i did not fact checked just threw things i recalled from random conversations and was willing to risk them being false although with all the google links really surprised the quote is fake
also gonna add that , if my knowledge is correct, a reason japan was hesitant about invading america during WW2 was the belief that "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass"
Isoroku Yamamoto- a fleet admiral for the japanese navy although i do agree we spend stupid amounts of money on our military
we don't agree with EVERYONE owning a gun... just responsable, sane people. and yes anyone could potentially have a gun. but we're not brandishing it every time air hits our face. if more responsable people owned guns. most criminals wouldn't be dumb enough to try some ****
I'd rather live in a neighborhood where my neighbors can help me out than in a neighborhood where the nearest gun is at the police station 12 mins away
Really? I've seen that graph before and doesn't mention that the UK and the US have a vastly different definition of 'violent crime'. In the US it's a major offense in which someone is seriously injured. UK counts people simply shoving you and taking your stuff.
So of course the UK has a much higher violent crime rate then the US.
The unfortunate problem is... Well, have you met *people*?
I don't know many people who are level-headed enough to where I would consider them more likely to use a gun in legit defense than to use it to do something stupid. As was mentioned, it's easy to do something stupid in the heat of a moment.
Anyone who was taught properly how to use a firearm safely knows better than do **** around and do something stupid. Most states require you to take a training course before you purchase a firearm or get a conceal carry license. It's the same thing as getting a drivers license, you have to take a drivers ed course first, right?
And do you know how irresponsibly most people drive? A study found (I read it a couple years back, not going to go look for it again to cite) that about 48% of US drivers don't signal when they turn, and 75% don't signal lane changes.
And yet, almost anybody can get a license, in fact in most places you can own a car before you can a firearm, even though one could cause as much damage if not more damage with a car than a firearm.
What are we ganna do? Take away cars from everybody? Shall we make it illegal to own sharp knives while were at it? How about blunt objects that you could use to bludgeon someone? Nah, don't think so.
The difference is, a gun has no purpose other than killing (or threatening to kill). Whereas the other objects have intended purposes other than killing.
And yet, how many idiots are on the road? How many car accidents happen?
No one thinks rationally when afraid or angry or drunk, no matter how much training they have had with a gun.
Your police force is paaranoid and over-agressive because it has to assume anyone has a gun.
Really? The that's why the police force is paranoid and over-aggressive? Are you sure?
Violent crimes in the US have been at all time lows recently, and yet cases of police manslaughter have gone up substantially? It's not as if there are more guns about, or that the laws have gotten more relaxed. No, quite the opposite. Gun laws have gotten stricter and stricter over the years. Less people have firearms, while the police have been slowly gathering more and more military grade equipment over the years, claiming is necessary for whatever reason.
The police are nothing but thugs in a uniform, with military grade weaponry. The problem lies not in the fact that citizens are armed, it's the problem that more
citizens aren't armed. The police used to only carry a sidearm on them, and a shotgun in their car. Now they typically carry assault rifles, shotgun, even ******* police force M32 grenade launchers with tear gas, which is ridiculously unnecessary to patrol with.
Okay, i have to admit that there are other more important factors. But i honestly think that what i said is a (small) part of the problem. But, hey, what do i know?
Not to be a cunt mate, but the whole "threat of government tyranny" thing? That's a weak as **** argument.
First of all, nobody's done anything against US government tyranny in a hundred years. And you'd have to have been living under a very patriotic rock your whole life to think there's been no tyranny to oppose.
Furthermore, even if you and a few million other pro-guns people decided to rise up against your government right at this very second, you'd be using assault rifles, machine guns and pistols against body armour, tanks, jets and drones.
It's not a cause that stands up in today's world, and owning guns just because you have the right to makes more sense than owning them because of that threat.
And let me ask you this:
You talk about people carrying guns for their own protection, and it seems as though that's pretty common in your part of the world - what I want to know is, if it's for protection, why nobody wears a bulletproof vest?
Maybe because the government hasn't exactly done anything worthy of an armed revolution?
The US government is corrupt, ass backwards, and largely incompetent as a whole at times. Tyrranical is hardly even close to a reasonable description.
The UK is hardly the safest place in the world. You look at a country that is outsized by the majority of states it he US, your comparisons become rather skewed. Variations occur across such a large region, the whole of the US varies in violence and criminal behavior in a similar way to how they vary across the EU.
But if you want to try and act high and mighty about something you know little to nothing about go ahead. Believe it or not, but 99% of the time you could walk through rough parts of cities and be fine. It's all about time and location for these things, it's not like I walk out my front door and have a gun in my face.
Man, people are quick to jump to "high and mighty" when they see an opposing statement which isn't a load of quickly-cobbled together ******** , huh?
I want you guys to educate me, and I want to return the favour by educating you, if need be. The UK, and Europe, and the USA are three completely different places, so yes, we can't really compare them on anything more than a general scale. This is why my facts are measured per capita, and homicide rates are measures per 100,000.
As stated previously, I'm not here to tell anybody how to live their lives, and none of what I've said really goes above my head, so if you don't like my attitude, I think you should not give me the courtesy of a response, or at least consider that you might be misinterpreting my intentions.
Anyway, I'm glad that, aside from that particular set of words, your comment was mature and well thought-out. In fact, given the amount of comments, different opinions, amount of people forced to measure other countries by their own country's standards, etc. there are very few red thumbs around, which I think is a really good sign.
It's nothing personal, it's just that hearing people from other country's start criticizing other countries for no real reason. Every country has gone through very rough times and times that make them seem like a Utopia.
It seems like a lot of European's tend to forget their own history and the many mistakes and faulty governments that came along the way. The US is relatively young in comparison, so there hasn't been a whole lot of change over the years, it'll take awhile before the US finally clicks as a whole and things begin to look up.
I can't say what it would take to fly resolve the issues in the US, but it's not easy. We know the problems that exist in some of our cities, we just get tired of having European's throwing it in our face constantly acting like we think otherwise.
Trust me, I would love to be able to fix these issues in these cities, but I can't think of any way that would effectively do it. Gun ownership is part of culture here and removing it would only leave those who got them legally vulnerable to those who have theirs illegally. The higher presence of guns in the country is the only reason the crimes involving fire arms is higher.
Additionally, the cities here where crime runs rampant are already full of "gangsta" assholes, if they didn't have guns they would just find another way to mug you.
Just gonna nitpick your comment here. Assault rifles and machine guns are illegal in the States. Yes, you read that right: despite the plethora of stereotypes, Americans cannot own military weapons. Some of our guns may look like military weapons, but I assure you that appearance and function are two different things. You can go through a lengthy, complicated, and expensive process that will allow you to own assault rifles, but the vast majority do not do this.
There are far more armed civilians in the US than there are active duty military and I highly doubt the majority of the military would turn on their countrymen, so a successful uprising isn't all that far fetched. Also, many wars have been won against superior military forces in the past, such as when the US lost in Vietnam. I'm not all that familiar with military tactics, but I think guerrilla warfare is a good way for the small guy to kick some ass.
So you're using just the pistols against body armour, tanks, jets and drones then?
Dude, all the government do is make your team out to be a monster and they'll have everyone they need on board to wipe you off the face of the Earth before anybody has time to ask any questions. You'd need every armed person in the country to rise up all at once in order to stand a chance, and that's just not gonna happen. Ever. The USA is 50 / 50 divided on almost every major issue of recent times. Abortion, religion, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc, etc. Your civilian militia, from this outsider's view, seems more likely to split in two and start fighting each other than to actually overthrow its own government.
The US military is an entirely volunteer force.. You think US Citizens will turn on US Citizens like that? Not to mention our police force, ARE armed with military grade weaponry, and aside from a badge, they are just citizens.
In any case, if there were to be an armed revolution, it would likely be minimal fighting, with almost no military action.
That being said, a civil war is more likely. And how much could you really know about the US, without having lived here for any period of time? Split 50/50 on all these topics? Hardly.
also 85% of the time when someone carrying a gun legally pulls it out. they don't shoot. just the sight of a gun is enough to scare off or stun a criminal
Because it's been an integral part of our country since, well day one. It is literally the second right on the Bill of Rights, just after the freedom of speech. The founding father's included it for a reason, for a multitude actually.
I've lived in Arizona my entire life up until very recently, and in AZ gun laws are very, very lax. There isn't much you can't do if you have the right permits, which is only a matter of time and money. Even without permits, you still have a lot of freedom with firearms there. That being said, I rarely heard of any sort of mugging or robbing in the city I lived in, because people knew most everyone carried a firearm either on them or in their car. Why would a criminal risk getting shot over a purse?
Infact, the only crimes where shooting happened were almost always associated with drugs (Either smuggling or use, often cartel related as well) or mental instability (Suicide, domestic abuse, etc) Serious crimes yes, but few and very far between.
Your chances of getting shot for any reason might be half a percent, but then they'd still be 0.4% higher than for me. I'm more likely to win the lottery than get shot in my country, and although it's not as bad in the US as some people may think, I'm sure there are many, many people in your country who can't say the same.
I'm sorry, I'd love to stay and chat, because in some perverse way I'm actually really enjoying this whole thread, but I start work in literally five minutes. It's a good thing I'm such a short walk away.
And my chances of defending myself against an armed robber with a firearm of my own are a lot greater too, huh. Read about some cases of home invasions where the homeowner responded with a shotgun or something similar, and how a majority of the time, just seeing the gun/hearing the shell chambered is enough to scare them away without any incident.
And you seem to be under the impression that everyone in the US who isn't a gun-toting redneck or something is in constant fear of being shot. Quite the opposite really, it's rarely a though that crosses most people's minds. Just a small part of reality in the US. I fear the police force more than I fear a criminal with a firearm, at least I know the criminal's intentions, and that he more than likely just wants my wallet, not my life. With a cop, hell, who knows what they'll do, you never know if the guy behind the badge is a sane, rational person, or a jumpy trigger happy kid fresh out of highschool who was bullied his entire life and feels like he now has the power to bully others.
But why would a police officer be jumpy and trigger-happy? Why can't you trust your own police force? The Scottish Police Service has some bad apples in its ranks, and in fact I knew one of them personally as he was stationed at my academy for a time, but for the most part, and I'm talking at least 85% here, our police officers are just everyday folks in uniforms. What's so different about America that causes you to fear them so much?
And on the subject of guns for protection and violent home invasions, are you not seeing the contradiction here? You talk of protecting people and keeping them safe, but my country with its total lack of firearms is safer than yours, in terms of all violence, but especially gun violence.
There's a simple explanation. And both sides of the arguments have fair points. In US you permit guns (simplified for argument sake) so that people can protect themselves from anything, even with deathly outcome. In Europe guns are banned because it will make it harder for people to get guns and commit more serious crimes I'm not talking "organized" criminals, 'cause let's face it murders by organized crime are very few compared to by domestic murders. Its so much easier to kill someone by shooting than by knifing. TLR the US have more gun violence, and more homicides because of liberal gun laws - while Europe have more of other crimes, but few, or fewer, gun related homicides because its hard for regular people to obtain weapons.
I think I would like to agree with the US law of guns in Europe. Mostly because we're getting raped with ******* immigrants, at least that is the case where I'm from. I don't trust these ******* , these people are very different from us and I don't think we will be able to live together peacefully. What pisses me off the most about these cunts is that if it were the other way around, and we were to immigrate to their lands, then we wouldn't even make it to the shore without a bullet stuck in our head. So in this case, yes, I would love a gun law for the locals (obviously none for these ******* immigrant assholes that can't appreciate **** ).
I know, but I also know a lot of people would get mad, so I hopped onto the opportunity I had in front of me to get thumbs Because I am a lonely faggot .
Actually mugging someone in America is one of the worst countries to try your luck.
Ive seen people who have been threatened at knife and gun point turn it around and end up beating the mugger to near death. Its not even that rare either, This exact thing happens a lot.
I guess the British just have some kind of weird fetish for giving their belongings to unarmed thieves and then trying to live out there dreams as a Rugby star
In the USA, Milwaukee, Wisconsin has the closest population density to Glasgow (~600,000), and for the year 2012, Glasgow had 2.9 homicides per 100,000 people, Milwaukee's was 15.5. Obviously there are a lot of variables and if I had more time I might have gone looking for more cities to compare, and get a wider sample size, but to me, that 12.6 gap says quite a lot.
If you removed black people from the equation entirely (roughly 50% of murders) you'd still be at double the rate of Glasgow.
I know Americans hate to hear this but when you let everyone buy guns and ammo without regulation it's going to lead to more gun deaths. Now maybe you think the freedom to carry those weapons is more important then the thousands who die but it's a lot harder to stab somebody than shoot them
If someone REALLY wants to go on a shooting spree, no amount of gun laws is going to stop them. Full-auto guns are outright banned in Canada to my knowledge but that hasn't stopped criminals from obtaining them anyway.
Michael Moore is a bit of a polemicist but in the very article you posted he says:
"Even when 90% of the American public calls for stronger gun laws, Congress refuses — and then we the people refuse to remove them from office. So the onus is on us, all of us. We won’t pass the necessary laws, but more importantly we won’t consider why this happens here all the time."
And shooting sprees account for a very small percentage of gun deaths even in the US, but you have to admit that gun control would reduce the instance of school shootings. Canada has way fewer per capita than the US and we get a lot of illegal guns from across your border
But I agree that gun control isn't the biggest reason for the violence in the US. Poverty leads to crime and the gap between poor and rich is growing And it doesn't help that your education system is stratified along economic and often racial lines . Add this to a for-profit jail system that incarcerates almost 1% of their population in violent prisons and you know why there's a lot of violent crime
As an American, I just point and yell "Communist!" when I get robbed and within 10 seconds, he's on the ground, bleeding out with multiple bullet holes. I then applaud my saviors and we all sing the pledge of allegiance before getting some McDonald's. I speak from experience.
Agreed, I live in italy, and as I'm a little paranoid I keep a telescopic nightstick (that I bought in Prague) close to me while sleeping, and I also have a fake but solid metal M1911 in my drawer that actually looks like a real one. The perfect detterrant against robbers, and if they find out its fake you can always slam it in their sorry heads.
Here in 'murica, petty thieves usually don't carry guns, especially if they're robbing you out in the open like in this gif. I'd definitely tackle someone if they took my **** . Also, if you tackle them and they have a gun, chances are you can wrestle the gun from them.
In Canada some of the criminals have guns, fortunately where I live it's mostly wanna be gang-bangers who don't know how to shoot for **** .
Just a couple weeks ago there was a shootout between two "gangs". They rolled up to each other in their cars, were maybe 20 feet away from each other, and unloaded at one another. There were no casualties as both vehicles drove off.
Why do you think Americans are the one red-thumbing you? In Florida (A state in America) if someone mugs you, you can actually just fight back or kill them. It's the stand your ground law.
Can't even do that here, if someone steals your **** without hurting you can't hurt him to get it back. Stealing apparently doesn't make you forfeit your right to not get punched in the dick.
Amerifag here
What do you mean by 'carries no weapons'? Am I supposed to believe thats a thing people do? Whats next? Stopping eating when you're full?
It's not strictly true; sometimes they will launch a cheeky nandos or a strongly worded letter at you. Once, I was attacked, and when I fought back, the guy made tea and then refused to offer me any.
It must say something about that neighborhood when she instantly throws her belonging to safety when she see's a guy dismounting a motorcycle. Must be a high theft area.
Every area in Argentina is a high theft area, you are at risk of being robbed almost anywhere sadly. This woman was lucky the thiefs didnt try anything else before leaving (like just attacking her).
I remember seeing this on the news (argentinian fag here). It was her husband's house or something of the sort, she knew the owner. So luck played a factor as well, and I'm glad for her...
It should be "fast-reacted" and the well-done should be hyphenated as well.
Appropriate picture though; it's like you're a grammar nazi but since you're also a baby you don't know what compound modifiers are
Nope. Well except for saying well-done
I'm sure you've seen people write "well-read", which is completely different from "read well"
"Well thought and reacted fast" doesn't make any sense
The OP is from Germany and Germans have a tendency to put their verbs in the back of a sentence. This might have been a mistake by combining the two languages in a grammatical way.
Some stupid gypsies here ask for the time and try to snatch your phone if you use it. The problem is most of them are walking zombies, and the moment you hit one, 200 more spawn out of a ******* garbage can.
I **** you not, if you want to experience a real life zombie apocalypse, come to Romania. Or any country that has gypsies. And by that I mean every country, they are ******* everywhere!
But since they are there ANYWAYS and that in ******* MASSES, this just makes it WAY easier for them to come over to us, or just about any other EU member state.
Portugal is the last country to the west... if not mistaken the furthest from Romania in the EU as well, and they still go to Lisbon in masses they are famous for 2 things there:
1- camping out in private properties in the outskirts of the capital where the police has to get involved all the time every night
2- take people's wallets as they enter the bus .__.
i thought the guy was coming to stop the girl from doing something bad, turns out the guy is a robber and something happens, thats all i got out of reading the comments
reasons: the licence plate of the kangoo has the colors of argentine plates, everyone saying hi with a kiss, feel i get from the video and that motochorros (motomuggers) are classic argentine muggers and they generaly act with one driving one mugging