Water forever ruined. swimming? nope. This is the diving bell spider ( aquatics), a spider that spends almost its entire life underwater. They spin air chambers nopetee nope
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Water forever ruined

This is the diving bell spider ( aquatics), a spider
that spends almost its entire life underwater.
They spin air chambers with their silk that allow them to
breathe. They don' t even need to resurface to fill the chamber
with air as the bubble acts like a gill, extracting dissolved oxygen
from the water and dispersing carbon dioxide,
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#54 - deckbox (07/03/2014) [+] (6 replies)
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since alot of peeps get confuzzled as to how the guy eats/swims etc heres some youtube **** Under water spider
#5 - viran (07/02/2014) [-]
if spiders can make webs do this, can we make rebreather **** ?
User avatar #31 to #23 - tumblrball ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
das a fake bro
#24 to #23 - viran (07/02/2014) [-]
now instead of a micro battery, provide power by sucking the oxygen into your mouth through a wind turbine sort of thing...
User avatar #32 to #5 - dragemit (07/02/2014) [-]
Why not just use some good ol' bottled air?
#59 to #32 - anon (07/03/2014) [-]
because a mechanical gill would allow submarines to never have to resurface (assuming they also eat fish and seaweed)
User avatar #80 to #59 - dragemit (07/03/2014) [-]
Nuclear Submarines can already do that because they have air filters. They can't take in food for the crew, though.
User avatar #35 to #5 - mendelevium (07/03/2014) [-]
We need a lot more air then a spider.
#6 to #5 - deckbox (07/02/2014) [-]
well it acts like a gill so we would need the same sort of device
#8 to #6 - jakeattack (07/02/2014) [-]
Unfortunately life doesn't just translate scales easily like making more batches of cookies rhe proportions change. Larger organisms need far far moar oxygen and produce far more co2
#14 to #8 - deckbox (07/02/2014) [-]
need a ******* big gill then
#94 to #14 - jakeattack (07/03/2014) [-]
Yes, but for that we need the chamber to protect us from the pressure. We could just breed giant spiders
#118 to #94 - deckbox (07/03/2014) [-]
we tried stuff like that, spiders can only grow to a certain size due to how they take in Oxygen, with only X amount of oxygen they can only grow to Y size, So breeding giant spiders they most likely would suffocate as soon as you take them out of their sacs/ the lab.
#129 to #118 - jakeattack (07/04/2014) [-]
Moar oxygen then
#130 to #129 - deckbox (07/04/2014) [-]
We have a lot less oxygen in the air than we did millions of years ago where dragonflies had the wingspan of eagles, spiders can only get bigger depending on the oxygen in the environment, if you made a giant biosphere and pumped it with oxygen sure but as soon as it leaves that it will suffocate to death
#131 to #130 - jakeattack (07/05/2014) [-]
Interesting. Other planets with higher levels of atmospheric oxygen=lol nope. But that could work easily for harvesting lots of silk. Also what about direct oxygen injected into it like some kind of cyborg spider for military reasons hmm. But it sounds like they absorb through skin? And surface area to volume is lost at high sizes. Perhaps genetically modify them for a avian respiratory system
#141 to #131 - deckbox (07/05/2014) [-]
Well they breathe through tiny holes on the sides of their body,  so dunno if directly injecting it or making some sort of oxygen suit would be as effective.   
   
We tried harvesting silk here too, problem is spiders eat each other, I don't think we would be in a position to farm them for some time which sucks since spider silk is like  6 times stronger than steel as per density, and has tensile strength comparable to it ( just above 1GPa which measures force per area) , but not as strong in a way since the whole elasticity thing so whilst as strong it isn't as stiff or sturdy.   
   
Since its a protein it has like all the byproducts carbon etc, they tried breeding ' spider goats' so like the silk could be extracted through goats milk but that endeavour ended in bankruptcy.
Well they breathe through tiny holes on the sides of their body, so dunno if directly injecting it or making some sort of oxygen suit would be as effective.

We tried harvesting silk here too, problem is spiders eat each other, I don't think we would be in a position to farm them for some time which sucks since spider silk is like 6 times stronger than steel as per density, and has tensile strength comparable to it ( just above 1GPa which measures force per area) , but not as strong in a way since the whole elasticity thing so whilst as strong it isn't as stiff or sturdy.

Since its a protein it has like all the byproducts carbon etc, they tried breeding ' spider goats' so like the silk could be extracted through goats milk but that endeavour ended in bankruptcy.
#146 to #141 - jakeattack (07/07/2014) [-]
What i was trying to say is how the ratio of surface area/vol decreases as volume increases. They need a large surface area in order to have many holes for gas exchange right? so a large spider would not have enough surface area relative to the amount of cells he has. similar reason to why large cells don't exist, too much of the cell, not enough surface area for diffusion of nutrients. the problem is those tubes are a passive system, unlike lungs. lungs also solve the surface area problem with all the tubes and avioli equating to a surface area of a tennis court ive heard. So, we could either give spiders lungs genetically ( very difficult) , OR fix the problem technologically.

So my idea was somehow injecting the oxygen into the bloodstream directly, which would somehow serve as lungs in a way, an artificial oxygen system. www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-06/injecting-oxygen-filled-microparticles-bloodstream-could-buy-half-hour-suffocating-patients something like this but it would need to be able to be stable for longer periods which is addressed at the end.

another idea could be to put spiders in separate self contained cells and create a very high oxygen environment.

the ironic thing is the spiders and their oxygen basically goes all the way back to the original problem, getting oxygen for scuba divers.
User avatar #45 to #5 - neokun (07/03/2014) [-]
I feel retarded right now, but I cannot understand this comment. What are you saying?

What is a rebreather **** ?
User avatar #89 to #45 - zahnrad (07/03/2014) [-]
I think he means so divers and such could breath underwater as a replacement for oxygen tanks.
#87 to #45 - anon (07/03/2014) [-]
rebreather is the name of a device, i'm assuming you understand his use of the slang term " **** "
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebreather
User avatar #102 to #5 - sciencexplain (07/03/2014) [-]
There are potential methods that exist but the main problem is that a rebreather that can provide enough oxygen to the average human will have to be big and bulky, because of the large amount of water that has to be processed. An average diver with a fully closed-circuit rebreather needs 1 liter of oxygen per minute so at least 192 litres of sea water per minute would have to be passed through the system, and this system would not work in anoxic water. However modern submarines generate oxygen very efficiently. They use an oxygen generator (I think it's called "the Bomb" or something like that) where they use electrolysis to create oxygen from water and the hydrogen is bled overboard as mini bubbles through a diffusion tube into the ocean.

-B
#107 to #102 - anon (07/03/2014) [-]
You and comicexplain are my favourite explains
User avatar #109 to #107 - sciencexplain (07/03/2014) [-]
I'll be sure to pass that on to scienexplain. There are currently two people running this acc: bioexplain (me) and sciencexplain. If our post ends in -B, it's bioexplain. If it ends is -S, it's sciencexplain. sciencexplain is busy with irl work right now so I'm trying my best with the spare time I have to help.

-B
#43 to #36 - deckbox (07/03/2014) [-]
Eresus (Ladybird Spider) Kefalonia 2013

enjoy your sleep
#67 to #43 - popnotes (07/03/2014) [-]
It looks kinda cute to me, and I'm mortally terrified of insects and arachnids.
#119 to #67 - deckbox (07/03/2014) [-]
its not dangerous like other species, in fact a lot of spiders are not really dangerous unless you piss them off
#4 - nibbero (07/02/2014) [-]
User avatar #78 to #4 - fuckingtrolls (07/03/2014) [-]
Gatorade is better
#110 to #78 - norkas (07/03/2014) [-]
Sports drink pleb.
User avatar #125 to #110 - fuckingtrolls (07/03/2014) [-]
Gatorade is a sports drink you artard
User avatar #29 to #4 - zourch ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
I don't think you will ever find a better time to use this then now
User avatar #34 to #4 - epicactual (07/03/2014) [-]
Hail Hydrate
User avatar #12 to #4 - exabytee (07/02/2014) [-]
As we all know, hydration is key.
#41 - outdrewfortytwo (07/03/2014) [-]
I hate spiders with a passion, but this impresses me.
#62 - forbesydemon (07/03/2014) [-]
In New Zealand/Australia we get Funnel Web spiders. They're attracted to water and so often fall into swimming pools. Thing is, when they do this they curl up and appear dead but they're just sleeping and using the tiny amounts of air trapped in the hair on it's body. Some unsuspecting pleb will find one in their pool, get it out and it'll wake back up and go ******* nuts. Pic related, it's one of these demon-spawn.
#88 to #62 - schneidend (07/03/2014) [-]
Normally spiders don't bug me, but that thing looks like it's wearing 			*******		 black armor.
Normally spiders don't bug me, but that thing looks like it's wearing ******* black armor.
User avatar #93 to #88 - forbesydemon (07/03/2014) [-]
To increase your horror, here's a little bit from the wiki page I copied a while back to describe them to a friend. This is in relation to them biting you: in some cases the spider will remain attached until dislodged by shaking or flicking it off.
User avatar #91 to #88 - forbesydemon (07/03/2014) [-]
It pretty much is. They're a bitch to kill. Found one with a 4cm long body (not including legs as there's no ******* way I was going to stretch out it's legs in case it wasn't really dead) which may not seem big but I had to use my ex's stiletto heel to burst it as nothing else was stopping it. You could actually hear it rupturing as well. She never wore those shoes again after hearing it pop.
#92 to #91 - schneidend (07/03/2014) [-]
Jesus. It's the ******* Gundam of spiders.
#98 to #62 - anon (07/03/2014) [-]
just watched a video on it, NOPE
User avatar #63 to #62 - darkangeloffire (07/03/2014) [-]
And aren't those spiders ridiculously venomous? Or am I misinformed?
User avatar #64 to #63 - forbesydemon (07/03/2014) [-]
It is venomous and can kill kids with ease, but not so much adults. Just excrutiating pain for several hours-a full day for most of us. The horrifying thing is, the venom only affects Humans and other similar primates but no other larger mammals. This thing seems to be designed to kill small animals, and THEN **** up humans as a secondary purpose. Australia mayne, not even once.
User avatar #65 to #64 - darkangeloffire (07/03/2014) [-]
And people wonder why I like Winter. No bugs.
User avatar #108 to #65 - broswagonist (07/03/2014) [-]
Winter, when outdoor spiders move indoors?
User avatar #122 to #108 - darkangeloffire (07/03/2014) [-]
Sh. That doesn't happen
User avatar #124 to #122 - broswagonist (07/03/2014) [-]
The sudden influx of spiders into my old house when winter came along was terrifying.
#121 to #64 - deckbox (07/03/2014) [-]
I think it attacks a certain type of nervous system, most likely a toxin evolved to kill a specific type of mammal for food, and **** aren't we lucky enough to share our dna and stuff with most other mammals ?
#68 to #62 - thunderpony (07/03/2014) [-]
I accidentally enlarged the image
#70 to #68 - forbesydemon (07/03/2014) [-]
Oh **** ***** I forgot to put a warning about that on the bottom, like I'd originally planned. Oh well, too late now.
#71 to #70 - thunderpony (07/03/2014) [-]
It's ok, didn't want to sleep tonight anyways
User avatar #25 - harbingerwolf (07/02/2014) [-]
Hydration is key.
User avatar #47 to #25 - icanexplain (07/03/2014) [-]
**** you
#76 - entername (07/03/2014) [-]
wow, thats absolutely amazing   
i dont see why spiders get such a bad reputation, they have so many cool adaptations and are one of my favorite animals   
its awesome what millions of years of evolution can do to an animal
wow, thats absolutely amazing
i dont see why spiders get such a bad reputation, they have so many cool adaptations and are one of my favorite animals
its awesome what millions of years of evolution can do to an animal
#95 to #76 - steppeden (07/03/2014) [-]
I want to have a pet spider :3
I want to have a pet spider :3
User avatar #104 to #95 - chewiewhatawookie ONLINE (07/03/2014) [-]
That gif.
>Not having custom spider 4 lens shades.

#84 to #76 - flixoe (07/03/2014) [-]
Well they have to be pretty awesome if some look this damn cute!
#120 to #84 - deckbox (07/03/2014) [-]
itt--its not like I want to eat you or any-thing.... baka !!!
#46 - poutinesalad (07/03/2014) [-]
HOW DO YOU EAT?

Still not as terrifying as water scorpions
#69 to #46 - bobindun ONLINE (07/03/2014) [-]
It can catch fish and water insects. It's pretty 			******		 tight yo.
It can catch fish and water insects. It's pretty ****** tight yo.
User avatar #72 to #69 - poutinesalad (07/03/2014) [-]
and terrifying.

They live (in various forms) on every god damn continent besides antarctica.

I caught one that was ******* huge, like half of the palm of my hand.
User avatar #73 to #72 - bobindun ONLINE (07/03/2014) [-]
And it's badass. They can't even hurt you.
User avatar #74 to #73 - poutinesalad (07/03/2014) [-]
The bite of the water scorpion is painful but is far less harmful to humans than the sting of the true scorpion

www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/637251/water-scorpion
#83 - octagon (07/03/2014) [-]
Comment Picture
#86 - isradam (07/03/2014) [-]
>Severe aquaphobia   
>Severe arachnophobia   
   
I'm not leaving the house today, thanks.
>Severe aquaphobia
>Severe arachnophobia

I'm not leaving the house today, thanks.
User avatar #123 to #86 - stealthfoxbrony ONLINE (07/03/2014) [-]
well, seeing as you will never enter water, you will never encounter this spider.
Problem solved.
User avatar #127 to #123 - isradam (07/03/2014) [-]
I live by the sea and a river.
#9 - sirbrentcoe (07/02/2014) [-]
so if they can do this, why can't we figure it out to eliminate the need for SCUBA tanks and whatnot?
#10 to #9 - nebuelaeus (07/02/2014) [-]
We can
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebreather
it just easier to use an air tank.

Also, the way our bodies utilize oxygen, you can't get enough of it from water so you would still die of hypoxia. We're built from the ground up with a huge supply of oxygen in mind, so a "gill suit" like someone below me suggested wouldn't supply enough oxygen, and that's not even accounting for the amount of co2 we produce.
#16 to #10 - deckbox (07/02/2014) [-]
tldr we would kill ourselves with our CO2 faster than an air tank running out
#1 - ilaughyouwin (07/02/2014) [-]
I wonder at what point of the evolution one spider went into water and he discover he can breathe underwater inside his cobweb.
#2 to #1 - deckbox (07/02/2014) [-]
most likely it was diet, the species probably needed extra protein sources or some such, and the only effective way in its enviroment was the water, so those that could dive got the extra food, and those that couldn't perished.

or something like this
#61 to #2 - anon (07/03/2014) [-]
more likely though, god came down and decreed it when he made all animals 2000 years ago
#7 - mrkvos (07/02/2014) [-]
there is a cartoon from my childhood about this spider
User avatar #13 to #7 - syntheticdoll (07/02/2014) [-]
I remember it, what country is this cartoon from?
#15 to #13 - mrkvos (07/02/2014) [-]
it is from Hungary
User avatar #22 to #15 - Kleshay (07/02/2014) [-]
vízi spider the wonder pók
User avatar #17 to #15 - syntheticdoll (07/02/2014) [-]
I'm Hungarian I was just wondering if it was an "imported" cartoon.
#50 - deckbox (07/03/2014) [-]
Content Your Comments, since some butthurt anon redthumbed everyone
User avatar #44 - unstoppablegiggle (07/03/2014) [-]
The tuna land assault that Will Ferrel came up with in The Other Guys just became a lot more possible.
User avatar #105 - potatoforthewin (07/03/2014) [-]
Nope! Im not going swimming again.
#66 - grimmwaters ONLINE (07/03/2014) [-]
#3 - teranin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Arachnid is a good manga
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