Watch out, I’m packing heat…. Watch out, I’m packing heat… BIT SCARED WALKING HOME AT NIGHT? BETTER GET THE CAR KEY KNUCKLE l  funny
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Watch out, I’m packing heat…

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#17 - jafkdb (05/14/2014) [-]
Just FYI, trying to use your car keys in that fashion will tear up the skin in between your fingers, and make it near impossible to keep fighting if you have to. You would be better off holding a single key like a normal knife that you can stab with.
User avatar #1 - frostdrachen (05/13/2014) [-]
When I'm in a city, I tend to wear a chainmail shirt as a middle layer. Talk about paranoid, but so far it has saved me once during the two years I've had it.

So, it had been a bar night and I was walking home. I wasn't that drunk, a nice buzz.

A random guy walked by and asked for a cig, but I don't smoke. I kept on walking and I felt a stab on my lower back. The guy was standing behind me with a large-ish knife, looking dumbfounded.

The mail shirt had mostly stopped the blade, only a quarter inch got through. I was lucky that the blade wasn't smaller, as it would have gotten farther in if it had been. The wound left was very small and didn't bleed much.

I ran away. I probably couldn't have beaten him. I got home safely and put a band-aid on the wound.
User avatar #2 to #1 - loganmadder (05/13/2014) [-]
I now imagine a guy running down a street with a knife sticking out of his back , barely stuck in, like a poor assassination attempt
User avatar #11 to #2 - frostdrachen (05/14/2014) [-]
The knife didn't stick. It was still in his hand.
User avatar #5 to #1 - citruslord (05/14/2014) [-]
It'd be nice to have a set of some 1/4" riveted mail, not much would get through that.
User avatar #10 to #5 - bjerneironbeard (05/14/2014) [-]
Go 1/6, sure it's heavier, but offers a higher rate of protection from slashing and stabbing. But yeah, if I ever move to Flint or Detroit imma sure wear my mail to the bar.
User avatar #15 to #10 - citruslord (05/14/2014) [-]
I would be unsure about going smaller, with a proper ring gauge there should be little space as it is, but I'd be worried you'd lose too much wire thickness going with that small of a ring. Could be wrong though
User avatar #16 to #15 - bjerneironbeard (05/14/2014) [-]
I'm talking the 1/6 pattern, a higher "Weave density" offers more protection. Though it takes more rings but it's denser and more stab proof.
User avatar #18 to #16 - citruslord (05/14/2014) [-]
Ah, definitely, much smaller holes with that.
User avatar #7 to #1 - sonnyboii ONLINE (05/14/2014) [-]
Like what the ****
People just go around stabbin people
User avatar #12 to #7 - frostdrachen (05/14/2014) [-]
well, it was only once in two years.
#13 to #12 - sonnyboii ONLINE (05/14/2014) [-]
So by your numbers, its possible ill be stabbed 5 times in 10 years? Not gonna live in a city nope
#8 to #1 - Rascal (05/14/2014) [-]
pics or didn't happend
User avatar #21 to #1 - fargfive (05/14/2014) [-]
There's a certain kind of kevlar that's treated with a chemical that causes it to harden under sudden pressure, and from the tests I've seen it looked pretty effective against stab wounds. I can't remember what it was called, but you should look into it.
User avatar #23 to #1 - alstorp (05/14/2014) [-]
You know you could buy a stab vest.
User avatar #4 to #1 - meganinja (05/14/2014) [-]
why chainmail of all things? That's not going to protect you for **** . What you need my friend, is some high quality plate armor. Ain't nobody **** with a guy wearing a ************* suit of armor. 'But Meganinja, everybody knows that guns pierce armor!' ****** don't know that son. They see a guy walking around in a knight suit and they ain't messing with your ass.

You may also be interested in my weapon set. Some guy pulls a knife on you, and you pull a mace on him. Not that pussy spray, but a ******* mace with spikes and **** . God damn son, nobody's gonna want to be within a mile of you.

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User avatar #6 to #4 - hellomynameisbill (05/14/2014) [-]
because platemail can be seen through your clothing and restricts movement in the case that you have enough to actually protect your shoulders.
User avatar #20 to #6 - ninjaroo (05/14/2014) [-]
I was under the impression that plate mail restricted you movement less than chainmail, due to the fact that it's lighter and each piece is strapped to different parts of your body as opposed to all the weight sitting on your shoulders.
User avatar #22 to #20 - bjerneironbeard (05/14/2014) [-]
That is not true. Plate mail, though individual parts only has so much space until it either collodes with another piece or simply wont move, it's steel after all.
Chain mail on the other hand is like any shirt, highly mobile and flexible, just damn heavy.
User avatar #24 to #22 - ninjaroo (05/14/2014) [-]
If it were poorly designed, sure. But plate mail is designed for battle - The pieces are meant to slide over one another without restricting your freedom of movement. If they don't, it's either the wrong size or bad quality.
User avatar #25 to #24 - bjerneironbeard (05/14/2014) [-]
Sure you can get alot of movement out of it, but not in the same way as chainmail. I've worn both and can testify from experiance.
Plate offers higher protection against stabbing and slashing, but it weighs more and impedes movent, chain offers effective resistance against slashing and stabbing, is more movable and weigh less.
User avatar #26 to #25 - ninjaroo (05/14/2014) [-]
Were they made of the same thing? Historically, at least according to wikipedia and various forums full of people claiming to also have worn both, chain is both heavier and less comfortable.
User avatar #27 to #26 - bjerneironbeard (05/14/2014) [-]
A full shirt of chainmail weighs maybe 11-12 kg, this is for your torso, so it puts alot of strain on you shoulders, but you work around this by wearing a belt which evens out the weight between your waist and you shoulders. It's heavy but since it's basically a weave it behaves like a fabric, giving a higher rate of mobility.

Plate mail are solid pieces strapped on all over. A breast and backplate weighs about 10-12 kg as well, but they are solid objects, you cant mover your torso as you could in chain.
Then you need individual shoulder plates weighing about 1-2 kg a piece, and depending on model can be highly movable, You need to login to view this link
If you wear something like these the only way you can really move your arms are up and down, not as much back and forth. Again higher protection at the cost of higher weight and lower mobility. Then we have armplates, two separate ones joined at the elbow by another piece, and then gloves. Then we have leg plates to separate joined at the knee by a
third piece, then shoes and sabatons. If it's a well tailored suit it will be pretty movable, but it's multiple pieces joined together, so there's a lot of friction at the joints. And a proper suit of full plate, now were talking the big ones, could weigh up to 70 kg, they couldn't even get on their horses alone, or move around if they fell of, normal plate mail weighed around 20-30 kg.
User avatar #28 to #27 - ninjaroo (05/14/2014) [-]
That last point about knights not being able to move around or get on their horses is false, if soldiers went into battle like that they'd be more of a liability than anything. If they were made that heavy at all, they were purely decorative.
Thinking on it, that might be why we're disagreeing. I'm not taking into account the armor designed to protect lords and commanders, instead I'm only thinking of what was made specifically to fight in the thick of things with.
User avatar #29 to #28 - bjerneironbeard (05/14/2014) [-]
Then you're thinking half plate, were actual plate covers mainly 50-60% of the body, the rest is leather and chain, though more movable and flexible than their full plate counterpart, they are still stuck around the 20-30 kg mark. Somewhat flexible and movable, though not as much as chainmail. And there are historical sources pointing to knights not being able to get up after being knocked of horses with 60-70 kg armor on, the thing with that kind of armor was, heavy cavalry, charge in devastate and get out, and if you got stuck you move your arms, sword and shield, but if you get knocked down it's kinda like a turtle on it's back.
User avatar #30 to #29 - ninjaroo (05/15/2014) [-]
The "historical sources" you're referring to are misconceptions popularized by Mark Twains "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court"
I said the same thing and was corrected. Again, a knight couldn't rely on being able to sit on his horse the entire battle. If he fell off, he needed to be able to defend himself.
User avatar #31 to #30 - bjerneironbeard (05/15/2014) [-]
Yeah, I was wrong about the turtle thing, but back to the matter at hand. Chainmail is definitely the superior choice for a night at the pub in a bad neighbourhood.
User avatar #32 to #31 - ninjaroo (05/15/2014) [-]
No question, I was mostly contesting your points about freedom of movement and weight.
User avatar #33 to #32 - bjerneironbeard (05/15/2014) [-]
To that I say, plate is fun, and can be quite movable, though most of the suits I have tried, have been cumbersome and un-agile, I prefer chain mail for movement and the general weight, just throw some padding under and some leather fi you wanna and you got solid protection and movement capabilities.
User avatar #9 - dreadedsin (05/14/2014) [-]
I prefer my 'Recompense of the fallen'
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