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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#4 - include
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#5 - wthree
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wait
#6 to #5 - wthree
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could it be ....
#7 to #6 - wthree
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yes! I see it!
#8 to #7 - wthree
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PROOOF!!!!
#137 to #8 - magicalpotato
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#34 to #8 - ttttttttttttttt
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open your eyes america
#31 - asdffes
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I think the metric system is nice for math and science. Its nice to be able to convert anything by moving decimal places.

I think the English system is more useful for real life applications like measuring things. an inch and foot work are a better range for measuring things than a centimeter and meter...ie base ten expands too quickly for application. That is just a personal preference obviously. The real glory of the English inches is with fractions. everything is simply half as big as something else. you can rapidly determine half of any number. very important in word working and carpentry.

not trying to create a *********, just wanted to lay out how I see it.
#133 to #31 - anon id: caef0575
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WELL as a matter of fact. im european, and im a carpenter everything is centimeters.. not even meters, rather than saying 2.4 meters we will say 240 centimeters gets even easier for the ones who took a career in metalworks, they use only millimeters
#268 to #133 - asdffes
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In a former life I was a carpenter as well. how do you deal with sub centimeter lengths? isn't the base 10 decimal a bit of a pain? it never seemed to work out as well in drafting for me.
#256 to #31 - anon id: c323fd2b
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So half a foot is just half a foot, how amazing! Half a meter is undefinable by laws of physics and definitely not just half a meter. The half of 40 meters on the other hand is determined to be pi²*log(steaming pile of crap you just said).

Seriously what was that argument about? And it's definitly not easier. As you approach a border between fractions it gets retarded. 5279 foot? 1 yard 5 feet and 11 inch doesn't make much sense to me either (neither does 8 feet and 11 inch). 2.7178 meters or 271.78 centimeters is much easier to imagine and/or calculate with once you know the size of one centimetre/meter.
#265 to #256 - asdffes
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Let me explain my fraction argument. every inch is based on fractions 1/2 an inch is 1/4...half of a quarter is 1/8... ect. this allows for easy calculation of center points and other features. ie half of 5" 3/8 is 2" 11/16. very easy to do on the fly.

with the metric system. decimals are base 10 so there divisions are not even halves. half of a cm is .5 cm...half of that is .25 half of that is .125... it gets messier and messier with every division and less accurate. fractions represent exact proportions while decimals are subject to rounding and accuracy issues. ie half of 5.325 is tougher than using fractions.
#272 to #265 - killerofcows
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no just no, you make me cry

first of all what does fraction have to do with the imperial system ?

inch converted to feet and so forth is annoying for me used to things dividable by ten

but fraction doesnt cease to exist because a country uses other measurements (for example as far I know we ale use same clocks and all have half and quarters)

we could use half or quartes of cm if the was any demand for it, but we dont, because unlike to what you said, It doesnt get messier and it doesn't become less accurate

2. calculatin half of 5" 3/8 on the fly is only because your used to it, I had to bring up calculator to make sure you were right, and I used to be way above average in math skills, while I got no problem to do half or 5th of 5.325 in my head

3. and semi related, I understood you have no issuses to take half of anything or 1/4 or 1/8 but what about 60, 20, 10,5 or 2% of something ? these are all very easy managble in metric

is it just me or does these thing turn into ********** whether you like it or not, I had no intention to be rude just adding onto an argument
#298 to #272 - asdffes
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I would say your last statement contradicts your first...
you cant state you didn't mean to be rude if your first statement was, "no just no, you make me cry". I would consider that rude.

I also agree with you. I'm really not trying to be rude or create a ********* here, although I knew it was bound to happen. I am just trying to explain the strengths and weaknesses of both systems. and I am clearly failing at it to some degree lol.

the big difference is in measurements. since inches are in base 2 each increment is half as big as the next increment. the metric system is base 10 so there is no mark for 3/8...or .325 thats the big issue. you have to approximate it between 3/10 and 4/10.

and most of the time people don't convert between inches and feet. We use inches if were measuring something. even up to 200 inches because they are nice and convenient to divide up. and we use feet for measurements that require less precision and approximations. such as that boat must be a 16 footer. or the house is 2000 sq foot.
#301 to #298 - killerofcows
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hehe well I was kinda emotionly filled when I started typing, and when I reached the bottom I just wanted on good terms, because I want no harm but only add disscussion, but these thing tend to get angry responses if you have a stereotype for the text (not sure how to explain, hope you understand what I meant ^^)

I remember not many years ago did I find metric and celsius greatly superior to imperial and farenheit, but for each discussion like this one I come closer to belive both to have strengths and weaknesses

metric is more straigth forward and easier to learn, and while learning it you also learn other things measured in 10 (like grams, suprised thats not in the content, pounds and ounces is even harder for me than your lenghts meassures)

on a side note, 2000 sq foot sounds hillarious, because if you dont put your brain to use it sounds huge (2000 sq foot is only 185,8 sq m)
#259 to #31 - anon id: c323fd2b
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Try math with imperial. 1 mile 5000 feet and 11 inches + 300 feet 7 inch = ??.
math with metrical we convert everything to other units way easier so math is easier.
Also your system lacks a way to name small units (mm).
#86 to #31 - telfyr
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Well you could use decimeters
User avatar #170 to #31 - nagafever
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hey that thing there is 1 centimeter long
hey that thing there is a 0.4 inches long

or something like that
#171 to #31 - markusragnos
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Hm... I don't know, you'd have to lay your argument "Better range", "fractions" etc. better. It's a bit like language - it's so engrained into every day life that other languages seem opaque! So, you'd have to write a long eloquent and sensible argument to convince me that your reasons are sensible and not instead just personal opinion seeping over into what you think is a fact!

It's like taste in music or operating systems. It's too easy for two sides to completely discount the other and mistake opinion for objectivity!
#266 to #171 - asdffes
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I completely agree about thinking the range is easier in the English system. its mostly a matter of opinion. I guess that didn't come across well.

I tried to explain the importance of fractions above if you want to take a look.
User avatar #182 to #31 - shadowkingdr
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it does not go cm to M it goes cm dm then M and dm works as well as your foot
User avatar #196 to #31 - jimbobjim
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Its the Imperial system - not the English system. England is officially Metric...
User avatar #106 to #31 - DoomGuy
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That's actually pretty much why it stuck in the USA; it is so much more convenient in day-to-day activities than metric, and the US government never made an official decision to go metric, and ended up using what was widely accepted anyway.

Metric has it's place, sure, but I would rather use inches and feet over the meter set up.
User avatar #250 to #31 - Kairyuka
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That's purely a matter of what you're used to.
User avatar #69 - smokedmeatlog
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Its funny because America takes all the blame for the imperial system even though the British invented it.
#192 to #69 - anon id: abe91ff0
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It's because Britain has the capacity to use both systems with ease, therefore not being a nuisance to any countries when it comes to measurements.
User avatar #254 to #69 - steedawwg **User deleted account**
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Here in Britain we tend to use both, or at least I do
User avatar #288 to #69 - drtrousersnake
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America was also the first to use the metric system.
User avatar #292 to #288 - happypancake
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False, the French and Dutch were. The French invented it.
User avatar #295 to #292 - drtrousersnake
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the American dollar was the first use of a metric system, used before the French kilogramme and mètre.
User avatar #296 to #295 - happypancake
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Oh, I didn't know we were counting currency. My mistake.
User avatar #297 to #296 - drtrousersnake
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currency is a measurement, albeit an abstract one
User avatar #126 to #69 - jibb
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Because you still ******* use it
#200 to #126 - anon id: d3ddfbac
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brit fag here erm so do we but we use both
#264 to #200 - anon id: 3dcd389f
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We use both too......
User avatar #141 to #126 - toosexyforyou
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because it still has it's purpose you twat
User avatar #184 to #141 - jonajon
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America if officially changing to metric this year. They estimate it could take between five to ten years.
#13 - warioteam
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Not once have in FJ have I seen AMERICA start this kind of flame war.
Kinda proves that if everyone else is attempting to make fun of America when uncalled for, then is not america truly in the right?

But seriously, does it ******* matter which system we use? France gave us the metric system in the first place.
Go make fun of France.
User avatar #14 to #13 - Sethorein
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there was that one time where your stupid system ended up destroying a mars rover because while everyone else working on the project was using metric you decided to use your system figuring, I guess, that everyone should bow to 'murica. Boy was that emberassing when the rover literally shot itself right into the ground...
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which rover was this?
#66 to #45 - civilizedwasteland
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It wasn't a rover
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For once somebody actually brings up a good point about how the U.S. is so split on the measurement system it uses, everyone thumbs him down and calls his comment bait, but when somebody just says "hurr durr murica stooped" they get a **** ton of thumbs.
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huh... people got mad at me... initially thought the guy was saying the original comment was bait... I'm in the top 1000 commenters on FJ at the moment, would I really bait?
User avatar #236 to #14 - niggastolemyname
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The funny part is that standard system is really from the UK
User avatar #80 to #14 - damping
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You literally have no idea on what you are commenting on do you? The project was 100% NASA so of course it would be in imperial units. The reason the rover crashed was when NASA outsourced some of the programming to a European contractor, the contractor did its job in metric then converted in back to imperial. NASA did not know they already converted everything back to imperial, so they converted the number to imperial again. Since the number were way off after being converted twice, the rover crashed.

Another European who doesn't know ****. Are you Swedish? I swear they are the dumbest people on Earth.
#179 to #80 - anon id: be42848a
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you do know the NASA works with the metric system, just to avoid these accidents.
#64 to #13 - nitsuan
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People need something to bitch about. There is no real reason for this argument. As an American, I find our system to be strange, but I also don't give a ****. We have our way and the other parts of the world that don't use Fahrenheit have theirs. Arguing about it is literally an argument about being different. You can say one way is not right, but since they both achieve what they set out to do I find it hard to think any way is actually wrong, again, just different.   
   
>mfw this entire flame war
People need something to bitch about. There is no real reason for this argument. As an American, I find our system to be strange, but I also don't give a ****. We have our way and the other parts of the world that don't use Fahrenheit have theirs. Arguing about it is literally an argument about being different. You can say one way is not right, but since they both achieve what they set out to do I find it hard to think any way is actually wrong, again, just different.

>mfw this entire flame war
#174 to #13 - dannycharlton
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Oh, we make fun of the French too
Oh, we make fun of the French too
#33 - docvolto
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User avatar #61 - createdjustnow
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to be fair to the american way of dating papers, months only go to 12, days go up to 31 and years are in the thousands. 12<31<2013
#253 to #61 - psychodelic
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its not about how much they go, is about which represents more time.
User avatar #224 to #61 - lordzak
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yyyymmdd makes more sense though.
Year/Month/Day/Hour/Minute/Second/Millisecond.
That is how it should work, that way when you have many dates and you sort them numerically smallest to largest they will be in order.
How retarded would it be if our number system was like the American time system.
000, 010, ... 070, 080, 090, 100, ... 990, 001, 011, 021... compared to
000, 001, ... 007, 008, 009, 010, ... 099, 100, 101, 102...
User avatar #93 to #61 - orangebeanie
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also they just write the date the same way they would say it.
1/22/2014= January 22 2014.
It's actually easier to say it that way then if you say the day first.
User avatar #165 to #93 - doctorhue
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Twenty-second of January is at least as easy to say than January the twenty-second
User avatar #193 to #165 - killeajohn
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It's not really about the ease, it's just commonly said as January 22nd here. At least for everyone I've talked to.
#194 to #165 - anon id: abe91ff0
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Yes especially as January the 22nd doesn't make any grammatical sense.
#258 - CollinTB
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If I wanted organization, i'd join the goddamn commies.
If I wanted organization, i'd join the goddamn commies.
#27 - paraigon
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Why must this matter.
User avatar #108 to #27 - hookydoo
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well it does cause pains in math and sciences for one. We've been having to convert lb force to N (newton) force in my statics class lately. Thats converting (slugXft)/sec^2 to
(kgXm)/s^2 , which is kind of a pain in the ass for no good reason. I've seen no merits in the imperial system aside from "well it's just what we use here".
User avatar #166 to #27 - doctorhue
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We would advance a tad faster if we used the metric system, as well as if everyone used the same system.

It's annoying for Americans to have to have to convert when science, and for the rest of the world when dealing with America.
User avatar #146 to #27 - toosexyforyou
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You want the real answer? This is the honestly the reason why this matters There are a load of retarded Europeans that think that know that America is much better than Europe so they need to nit pick everything that Americans do in order to feel better about themselves because your country being figuratively "better" than another country should make you feel better about yourself? It's stupid as **** and they all need to grow the **** up.
#245 - crazyeyedbioll
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Can everyone quit bitching about the system America uses? They won't change it because it works well. also, **** your filthy metric system I'll never convert