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#4 - include (01/21/2014) [-]
#5 - wthree (01/21/2014) [-]
wait
#6 to #5 - wthree (01/21/2014) [-]
could it be ....
#7 to #6 - wthree (01/21/2014) [-]
yes! I see it!
#8 to #7 - wthree (01/21/2014) [-]
PROOOF!!!!
#34 to #8 - ttttttttttttttt (01/22/2014) [-]
open your eyes america
#33 - docvolto (01/22/2014) [-]
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#258 - CollinTB (01/22/2014) [-]
If I wanted organization, i'd join the goddamn commies.
If I wanted organization, i'd join the goddamn commies.
User avatar #69 - smokedmeatlog (01/22/2014) [-]
Its funny because America takes all the blame for the imperial system even though the British invented it.
User avatar #254 to #69 - steedawwg **User deleted account** (01/22/2014) [-]
Here in Britain we tend to use both, or at least I do
User avatar #288 to #69 - drtrousersnake (01/22/2014) [-]
America was also the first to use the metric system.
User avatar #292 to #288 - happypancake (01/22/2014) [-]
False, the French and Dutch were. The French invented it.
User avatar #295 to #292 - drtrousersnake (01/22/2014) [-]
the American dollar was the first use of a metric system, used before the French kilogramme and mètre.
User avatar #296 to #295 - happypancake (01/22/2014) [-]
Oh, I didn't know we were counting currency. My mistake.
User avatar #297 to #296 - drtrousersnake (01/22/2014) [-]
currency is a measurement, albeit an abstract one
#192 to #69 - anon (01/22/2014) [-]
It's because Britain has the capacity to use both systems with ease, therefore not being a nuisance to any countries when it comes to measurements.
User avatar #126 to #69 - jibb (01/22/2014) [-]
Because you still ******* use it
User avatar #141 to #126 - toosexyforyou (01/22/2014) [-]
because it still has it's purpose you twat
User avatar #184 to #141 - jonajon (01/22/2014) [-]
America if officially changing to metric this year. They estimate it could take between five to ten years.
#200 to #126 - anon (01/22/2014) [-]
brit fag here erm so do we but we use both
#264 to #200 - anon (01/22/2014) [-]
We use both too......
User avatar #61 - createdjustnow (01/22/2014) [-]
to be fair to the american way of dating papers, months only go to 12, days go up to 31 and years are in the thousands. 12<31<2013
#253 to #61 - psychodelic (01/22/2014) [-]
its not about how much they go, is about which represents more time.
User avatar #224 to #61 - lordzak (01/22/2014) [-]
yyyymmdd makes more sense though.
Year/Month/Day/Hour/Minute/Second/Millisecond.
That is how it should work, that way when you have many dates and you sort them numerically smallest to largest they will be in order.
How retarded would it be if our number system was like the American time system.
000, 010, ... 070, 080, 090, 100, ... 990, 001, 011, 021... compared to
000, 001, ... 007, 008, 009, 010, ... 099, 100, 101, 102...
User avatar #93 to #61 - orangebeanie (01/22/2014) [-]
also they just write the date the same way they would say it.
1/22/2014= January 22 2014.
It's actually easier to say it that way then if you say the day first.
User avatar #165 to #93 - doctorhue (01/22/2014) [-]
Twenty-second of January is at least as easy to say than January the twenty-second
User avatar #193 to #165 - killeajohn (01/22/2014) [-]
It's not really about the ease, it's just commonly said as January 22nd here. At least for everyone I've talked to.
#194 to #165 - anon (01/22/2014) [-]
Yes especially as January the 22nd doesn't make any grammatical sense.
#247 - manirock (01/22/2014) [-]
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#245 - crazyeyedbioll (01/22/2014) [-]
Can everyone quit bitching about the system America uses? They won't change it because it works well. also, **** your filthy metric system I'll never convert
User avatar #150 - danmanjonesnz (01/22/2014) [-]
The best idea would be YEAR - MONTH - DAY so that it's chronilogically sortable (most significant digit -> least s.d.). Nobody writes dates like that so we're all retarded really.
User avatar #164 to #150 - yonyon (01/22/2014) [-]
That actually makes a lot of sense..
User avatar #167 to #150 - brrigg (01/22/2014) [-]
i think julian dates on packaging are done this way, but i'm not 100%
User avatar #169 to #150 - usmcoorah (01/22/2014) [-]
This is how the military dates things.

Today is 20140122
User avatar #175 to #150 - syluxsc (01/22/2014) [-]
Isn't that the case in Hungary?
But there they also write down the last name first, and then the first name last...
User avatar #178 to #150 - amantes ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
It boils down to practical use. Putting the year first is useful when examining records spanning long periods of time. But if you are actually going through the events as they happen, the digit that changes most often is the most relevant.
#172 to #150 - dragmar (01/22/2014) [-]
This is how we date in sweden.

Then we shag in chronological order.
#31 - asdffes (01/22/2014) [-]
I think the metric system is nice for math and science. Its nice to be able to convert anything by moving decimal places.

I think the English system is more useful for real life applications like measuring things. an inch and foot work are a better range for measuring things than a centimeter and meter...ie base ten expands too quickly for application. That is just a personal preference obviously. The real glory of the English inches is with fractions. everything is simply half as big as something else. you can rapidly determine half of any number. very important in word working and carpentry.

not trying to create a ********* , just wanted to lay out how I see it.
#256 to #31 - anon (01/22/2014) [-]
So half a foot is just half a foot, how amazing! Half a meter is undefinable by laws of physics and definitely not just half a meter. The half of 40 meters on the other hand is determined to be pi²*log(steaming pile of crap you just said).

Seriously what was that argument about? And it's definitly not easier. As you approach a border between fractions it gets retarded. 5279 foot? 1 yard 5 feet and 11 inch doesn't make much sense to me either (neither does 8 feet and 11 inch). 2.7178 meters or 271.78 centimeters is much easier to imagine and/or calculate with once you know the size of one centimetre/meter.
#265 to #256 - asdffes (01/22/2014) [-]
Let me explain my fraction argument. every inch is based on fractions 1/2 an inch is 1/4...half of a quarter is 1/8... ect. this allows for easy calculation of center points and other features. ie half of 5" 3/8 is 2" 11/16. very easy to do on the fly.

with the metric system. decimals are base 10 so there divisions are not even halves. half of a cm is .5 cm...half of that is .25 half of that is .125... it gets messier and messier with every division and less accurate. fractions represent exact proportions while decimals are subject to rounding and accuracy issues. ie half of 5.325 is tougher than using fractions.
#272 to #265 - killerofcows (01/22/2014) [-]
no just no, you make me cry

first of all what does fraction have to do with the imperial system ?

inch converted to feet and so forth is annoying for me used to things dividable by ten

but fraction doesnt cease to exist because a country uses other measurements (for example as far I know we ale use same clocks and all have half and quarters)

we could use half or quartes of cm if the was any demand for it, but we dont, because unlike to what you said, It doesnt get messier and it doesn't become less accurate

2. calculatin half of 5" 3/8 on the fly is only because your used to it, I had to bring up calculator to make sure you were right, and I used to be way above average in math skills, while I got no problem to do half or 5th of 5.325 in my head

3. and semi related, I understood you have no issuses to take half of anything or 1/4 or 1/8 but what about 60, 20, 10,5 or 2% of something ? these are all very easy managble in metric

is it just me or does these thing turn into ********** whether you like it or not, I had no intention to be rude just adding onto an argument
#298 to #272 - asdffes (01/22/2014) [-]
I would say your last statement contradicts your first...
you cant state you didn't mean to be rude if your first statement was, "no just no, you make me cry". I would consider that rude.

I also agree with you. I'm really not trying to be rude or create a ********* here, although I knew it was bound to happen. I am just trying to explain the strengths and weaknesses of both systems. and I am clearly failing at it to some degree lol.

the big difference is in measurements. since inches are in base 2 each increment is half as big as the next increment. the metric system is base 10 so there is no mark for 3/8...or .325 thats the big issue. you have to approximate it between 3/10 and 4/10.

and most of the time people don't convert between inches and feet. We use inches if were measuring something. even up to 200 inches because they are nice and convenient to divide up. and we use feet for measurements that require less precision and approximations. such as that boat must be a 16 footer. or the house is 2000 sq foot.
#301 to #298 - killerofcows (01/22/2014) [-]
hehe well I was kinda emotionly filled when I started typing, and when I reached the bottom I just wanted on good terms, because I want no harm but only add disscussion, but these thing tend to get angry responses if you have a stereotype for the text (not sure how to explain, hope you understand what I meant ^^)

I remember not many years ago did I find metric and celsius greatly superior to imperial and farenheit, but for each discussion like this one I come closer to belive both to have strengths and weaknesses

metric is more straigth forward and easier to learn, and while learning it you also learn other things measured in 10 (like grams, suprised thats not in the content, pounds and ounces is even harder for me than your lenghts meassures)

on a side note, 2000 sq foot sounds hillarious, because if you dont put your brain to use it sounds huge (2000 sq foot is only 185,8 sq m)
#259 to #31 - anon (01/22/2014) [-]
Try math with imperial. 1 mile 5000 feet and 11 inches + 300 feet 7 inch = ??.
math with metrical we convert everything to other units way easier so math is easier.
Also your system lacks a way to name small units (mm).
User avatar #182 to #31 - shadowkingdr ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
it does not go cm to M it goes cm dm then M and dm works as well as your foot
User avatar #196 to #31 - jimbobjim (01/22/2014) [-]
Its the Imperial system - not the English system. England is officially Metric...
#86 to #31 - telfyr (01/22/2014) [-]
Well you could use decimeters
#133 to #31 - anon (01/22/2014) [-]
WELL as a matter of fact. im european, and im a carpenter everything is centimeters.. not even meters, rather than saying 2.4 meters we will say 240 centimeters gets even easier for the ones who took a career in metalworks, they use only millimeters
#268 to #133 - asdffes (01/22/2014) [-]
In a former life I was a carpenter as well. how do you deal with sub centimeter lengths? isn't the base 10 decimal a bit of a pain? it never seemed to work out as well in drafting for me.
User avatar #170 to #31 - nagafever (01/22/2014) [-]
hey that thing there is 1 centimeter long
hey that thing there is a 0.4 inches long

or something like that
#171 to #31 - markusragnos (01/22/2014) [-]
Hm... I don't know, you'd have to lay your argument "Better range", "fractions" etc. better. It's a bit like language - it's so engrained into every day life that other languages seem opaque! So, you'd have to write a long eloquent and sensible argument to convince me that your reasons are sensible and not instead just personal opinion seeping over into what you think is a fact!

It's like taste in music or operating systems. It's too easy for two sides to completely discount the other and mistake opinion for objectivity!
#266 to #171 - asdffes (01/22/2014) [-]
I completely agree about thinking the range is easier in the English system. its mostly a matter of opinion. I guess that didn't come across well.

I tried to explain the importance of fractions above if you want to take a look.
User avatar #106 to #31 - DoomGuy (01/22/2014) [-]
That's actually pretty much why it stuck in the USA; it is so much more convenient in day-to-day activities than metric, and the US government never made an official decision to go metric, and ended up using what was widely accepted anyway.

Metric has it's place, sure, but I would rather use inches and feet over the meter set up.
User avatar #250 to #31 - Kairyuka (01/22/2014) [-]
That's purely a matter of what you're used to.
#198 - wobblewub ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
I don't see why this has to be a debate.

Just let us do what we do, and you do what you do. What's the problem?
#202 to #198 - caau (01/22/2014) [-]
The problem is that in scientific circles, text books and engineering. It is virtually impossible not to have interactions like these across the Atlantic, which again means annoying unit calculations on both sides.
Other than that we makes fun of more or less every country that have some weird quirk that they don't want to change, why not America then?

User avatar #207 to #202 - wobblewub ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
And even if said professionals are using the US system, there are formulas they can use to change calculations to metric easily.
User avatar #204 to #202 - wobblewub ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
The US system is used casually. If there's work being done on a professional level people in the US usall do use the metric system so it's all good.
#208 to #204 - caau (01/22/2014) [-]
If that was actually the case then you would be right
But I actually have seen some weird units when reading reports from the US. It's not mandatory to use the metric units xD And even if it was so it still seems ridiculous to have to completely different systems to use for exactly the same thing, especially since one of them is used by the rest of the world, and arguably is easier to calculate with
User avatar #211 to #208 - wobblewub ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
True, but like I said, when we're using the US units we're usually not communicating and sharing those units with other countries. And if we do there's formulas that can convert it quickly.
#214 to #211 - caau (01/22/2014) [-]
Yea, ofc there are formulas It's just insanely annoying to have to convert units when you need them xD especially if you receive a paper from someone who stubbornly uses imperial units all the time xD
#218 to #214 - wobblewub ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
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#220 to #218 - caau (01/22/2014) [-]
Can't argue with that
#232 to #214 - anon (01/22/2014) [-]
stubbornness?

nay sir, tis mere ignorance.
#237 to #232 - caau (01/22/2014) [-]
Ignorance is when you don't know any better. Pretty sure that the guy i am talking about knew better and just were too stubborn to change it, which just makes it worse
#238 to #237 - anon (01/22/2014) [-]
exactly though, just assume he has no idea about the metric system and pity him. poor fellow, still measuring distance with his feet.
User avatar #205 to #204 - wobblewub ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
usually*
#235 to #198 - anon (01/22/2014) [-]
screaming "MURRICA FREEDOM" or any variants thereof does not a debate make.
#95 - wumbus (01/22/2014) [-]
America's fw everyone gets rused just because of units of measure
#242 to #95 - anon (01/22/2014) [-]
Which america? North? South?
User avatar #135 to #95 - playerdous (01/22/2014) [-]
Not really we just use both and I kinda like it that way.
Keeps my science life and non science life separated.
#77 - dishesaredone (01/22/2014) [-]
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#27 - paraigon (01/22/2014) [-]
Why must this matter.
User avatar #108 to #27 - hookydoo (01/22/2014) [-]
well it does cause pains in math and sciences for one. We've been having to convert lb force to N (newton) force in my statics class lately. Thats converting (slugXft)/sec^2 to
(kgXm)/s^2 , which is kind of a pain in the ass for no good reason. I've seen no merits in the imperial system aside from "well it's just what we use here".
User avatar #166 to #27 - doctorhue (01/22/2014) [-]
We would advance a tad faster if we used the metric system, as well as if everyone used the same system.

It's annoying for Americans to have to have to convert when science, and for the rest of the world when dealing with America.
User avatar #146 to #27 - toosexyforyou (01/22/2014) [-]
You want the real answer? This is the honestly the reason why this matters There are a load of retarded Europeans that think that know that America is much better than Europe so they need to nit pick everything that Americans do in order to feel better about themselves because your country being figuratively "better" than another country should make you feel better about yourself? It's stupid as **** and they all need to grow the **** up.
User avatar #252 - acetrainer (01/22/2014) [-]
Neither a menorah nor a chanukiah have four candles.
+4
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User avatar #241 to #231 - smokingman (01/22/2014) [-]
Dunno man, 'dem polinesian jews be all over the place.
User avatar #187 - redthumbmaster (01/22/2014) [-]
I actually like imperial units. I don't even understand how a feud could be started over measurements.
User avatar #197 to #187 - bugsbob ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
This is the internet. We could start a feud over anything.
#209 to #197 - caau (01/22/2014) [-]
And we usually do
User avatar #212 to #209 - bugsbob ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
What's that supposed to mean?

You wanna go? Let's go! You, me, right now!
#216 to #212 - caau (01/22/2014) [-]
Come on that's just plain out stupid.
There is no way you are going to win a feud with me!
User avatar #199 to #187 - newprinny ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
Because idiots on both sides like to be elitists about their measurements, dood. Dumb Americans say things like: "Metric system? How the hell d'you even read that junk?" and dumb Europeans take every chance they can to talk about how much better their system of measuring is, just like they like talking about how much better driving stick is and how Americans are too dumb for both.
#285 - thempc (01/22/2014) [-]
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User avatar #289 to #285 - metalmind (01/22/2014) [-]
The french partially did this
#124 - zzRedzz ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
I still think it's written month/day/year because when you say the date you say the month first like January 22nd, 2014
User avatar #145 to #124 - drainbramage (01/22/2014) [-]
I don't. I always say the day first, as in "it's the 22nd of January, 2014.
#148 to #145 - zzRedzz ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
Fluffy puppy
Fluffy puppy
User avatar #158 to #145 - leonhardt (01/22/2014) [-]
That's way more words and syllables than you need, though.
"It's January 22nd, 2014"
User avatar #277 to #158 - drainbramage (01/22/2014) [-]
It's just the way I was taught when I was a kid so I didn't question it, and old habits are hard to break. Saying it the other just doesn't sound right to me, just apart of someones upbringing I suppose. Are you from America by chance? Everyone I know says it the same way I do, so maybe they apply the way they say it to the way they write it.
User avatar #279 to #277 - leonhardt (01/22/2014) [-]
Born in Scotland, raised in Texas.
Moved here when I was like, 8 months old.
Still got family in Perth. Go back and visit every summer when the Texas heat becomes insufferable.

But yeah, that's the way they taught me in school, so I guess it's the same deal, just depends on how you say it.
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