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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Hey I've got a fun idea. Maybe don't marry the first cunt that'll suck your cock and hold out for the bitch that'll lick your asshole.
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anon (12/17/2015) [-] 
Perhaps it a stereotype, but there's a grain of factual truth hidden in it.
We know that 50% of marriage end in divorce and 70% of them are intionated by the female spouse. The Typical answer to this is "find the right women." However, there's two problems with that:
1.) Sensibly, do you think that the grooms from the 50% use the same reasoning, assumed that they've the found the perfect woman in their lives?
2.) It avoids the responsibility the brides possesses. There very little downside and too many personal benefits for women in divorce.
Remove alimony and give the child to the adult who has the finances to afford her/him along with the house.
Do this and the divorce rate will plummet.
We know that 50% of marriage end in divorce and 70% of them are intionated by the female spouse. The Typical answer to this is "find the right women." However, there's two problems with that:
1.) Sensibly, do you think that the grooms from the 50% use the same reasoning, assumed that they've the found the perfect woman in their lives?
2.) It avoids the responsibility the brides possesses. There very little downside and too many personal benefits for women in divorce.
Remove alimony and give the child to the adult who has the finances to afford her/him along with the house.
Do this and the divorce rate will plummet.
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geneticrepo ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Divorce rate is closer to 40%.
41% for first marriage, 60 for second, and 73 for third.
41% for first marriage, 60 for second, and 73 for third.
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geneticrepo ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-]
Please by all means show me where youre pulling this statistic from. Because its false. The dovorce rate has been dropping for years since more and more people are marrying later.
mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1409232722000&bicmet=1419773522000&_r=4&abt=0002&abg=0&referer=m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6256956
mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1409232722000&bicmet=1419773522000&_r=4&abt=0002&abg=0&referer=m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6256956
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geneticrepo ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-]
You do understand that with no context you cant accurately say that a solid 50% of ALL MARRIAGES end in divorce right?
Come back when you can accurately count every single marriage that has ever happened, and then count all of them that have ended in divorce.
Youre throwing a blind number out there that you cant quantify, just because youve heard the misleading phrase everytime this argument is brought up. Its inaccurate because youre misrepresenting the statistics.
Say theres 2.8 million marriages a day, 1.4 mil divorces a day.
That doesnt mean that theres a 50% divorce rate. You cant use a blanket statistic like that and call it correct. Its wrong. Thats not how divorces are calculated.
I gave you the accurate statistic, the one you would use when youre quoting a certain set of marriages, the normal average statistic when quoting average divorces.
Pick the set you want to argue about and then find the appropriate statistic. Dont just throw a number out the because thats what everyone says is right. Educate yourself first.
Heres a link to help.
www.divorcesource.com/ds/main/u-s-divorce-rates-and-statistics-1037.shtml
Come back when you can accurately count every single marriage that has ever happened, and then count all of them that have ended in divorce.
Youre throwing a blind number out there that you cant quantify, just because youve heard the misleading phrase everytime this argument is brought up. Its inaccurate because youre misrepresenting the statistics.
Say theres 2.8 million marriages a day, 1.4 mil divorces a day.
That doesnt mean that theres a 50% divorce rate. You cant use a blanket statistic like that and call it correct. Its wrong. Thats not how divorces are calculated.
I gave you the accurate statistic, the one you would use when youre quoting a certain set of marriages, the normal average statistic when quoting average divorces.
Pick the set you want to argue about and then find the appropriate statistic. Dont just throw a number out the because thats what everyone says is right. Educate yourself first.
Heres a link to help.
www.divorcesource.com/ds/main/u-s-divorce-rates-and-statistics-1037.shtml
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geneticrepo ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-]
Going off what that guy said, which is completely ******* wrong, ive shown that twice now.
Literally all i had to do was give the real statistic to refute his claim. Because his statistic was wrong. Thats it.
His statistic was a misrepresentation. He was wrong.
What do you not understand?
Literally all i had to do was give the real statistic to refute his claim. Because his statistic was wrong. Thats it.
His statistic was a misrepresentation. He was wrong.
What do you not understand?
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TheBigGummyBear (12/18/2015) [-] It might be worth noting that most of these divorces are in favour of the woman when kids are involved. For most marriages where there are no kids usually the divorce just results in a legal separation with no strings attached. Meaning no one really has to pay allimony or any lump sum to the spouse and vice versa, clean and simple doing exactly what divorce intends.
Then when children are involved, it just becomes a ******* ********* . Well not really, mother always wins because it's apparently an unspoken rule that women always are the more significant parent in a child's life. Am I the only one who likes my dad more?
Then when children are involved, it just becomes a ******* ********* . Well not really, mother always wins because it's apparently an unspoken rule that women always are the more significant parent in a child's life. Am I the only one who likes my dad more?
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anon (12/18/2015) [-] It seems to get worst from there...
www.questia.com/read/1G1-73538388/from-wise-to-foolish-the-portrayal-of-the-sitcom
www.sbts.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2013/12/JDFM-3.2-Spring-2013-vFinal-2-McGee-and-Hantla.pdf
worldfamilymap.ifstudies.org/2014/e-ppendix/figure13
www.census.gov/hhes/families/data/children.html
www.census.gov/population/socdemo/hh-fam/ch5.xls
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/co-parenting-after-divorce/201205/father-absence-father-deficit-father-hunger
www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/opre/nis4_report_congress_full_pdf_jan2010.pdf <-go to page 12, read the second paragraph.
www.questia.com/read/1G1-73538388/from-wise-to-foolish-the-portrayal-of-the-sitcom
www.sbts.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2013/12/JDFM-3.2-Spring-2013-vFinal-2-McGee-and-Hantla.pdf
worldfamilymap.ifstudies.org/2014/e-ppendix/figure13
www.census.gov/hhes/families/data/children.html
www.census.gov/population/socdemo/hh-fam/ch5.xls
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/co-parenting-after-divorce/201205/father-absence-father-deficit-father-hunger
www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/opre/nis4_report_congress_full_pdf_jan2010.pdf <-go to page 12, read the second paragraph.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
I read something about it too. Some guys wanted to see why was this, since the separation rates between unmarried couples remained around 50/50 in regards of who finishes the relation.
It turns out that the high amount of divorces are called out by women because the gender position in marriage hasn't changed too much. Apparently the woman is still the one in charge of most of the things in the house, even if the couple promises to equally divide the chores. In addition, most women also need to maintain a professional life.
In short, women seek divorce more than men because at the end the married life benefits more men than women. This was at least what this study indicated.
It turns out that the high amount of divorces are called out by women because the gender position in marriage hasn't changed too much. Apparently the woman is still the one in charge of most of the things in the house, even if the couple promises to equally divide the chores. In addition, most women also need to maintain a professional life.
In short, women seek divorce more than men because at the end the married life benefits more men than women. This was at least what this study indicated.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-] "For the lowest risk of divorce marry a virgin, Asian, agricultural engineer (college graduate), who attends church weekly". -Toni Shuma.
cdn.freedomainradio.com/FDR_2899_Marriage_Partners_Study.pdf
www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/marriage_divorce_tables.htm
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1926/07/the-russian-effort-to-abolish-marriage/306295/#article-comments
socialpathology.blogspot.com/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html
cdn.freedomainradio.com/FDR_2899_Marriage_Partners_Study.pdf
www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/marriage_divorce_tables.htm
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1926/07/the-russian-effort-to-abolish-marriage/306295/#article-comments
socialpathology.blogspot.com/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Depends. I got married to my only sexual partner. I've been married for 6 years without cheating and I think it's mostly about the friendship between those 2 people and their willingness to make each other happy in bed. I'm saying this from experience, since we've been through good and bad phases and I had at some point regret when things weren't going well long-term, but when your wife gives you a mind-blowing BJ and you get to **** her in the back door every now and while she smiles at you, why look for something else?
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TheBigGummyBear (12/18/2015) [-] 'Sexually experiment' I don't think is the right words here.
It's more that they ******* suck in bed because virgins haven't a clue what they're doing, which is a really big deal in a relationship. If there's no sex in the relationship, then it's destined to crumble and fail.
It's more that they ******* suck in bed because virgins haven't a clue what they're doing, which is a really big deal in a relationship. If there's no sex in the relationship, then it's destined to crumble and fail.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Eh, I beg to differ. It's about willingness to learn and caring for each other. The year I got married (as a virgin fag because I was religious when younger - long story...), we were ******* on average once per day for the first year. We later moved on to kinky stuff as well, eating pussy, ass, BJs, anal, spanking, roleplay, whatever. Ever got a blowjob while gaming? Amazing **** . Always about whether 2 people are willing to make each other happy. Also, the upside to having only 1 partner is that there is nothing to be disappointed about. No memories of it being better with somebody else, no shame, no regrets, no dirty past, no STDs, nothing. When it works, there's nothing to regret. When it doesn't, 2 willing people can make it work. If they aren't willing to satisfy each other, experience won't solve that imo.
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nigrfagitgingerjew (12/18/2015) [-]
Based on that graph, premarital sex is a marriage killer
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colossusshadow (12/18/2015) [-] You can use that statistic to imply women are less faithful/etc when it comes to marriage, but you would basically be stupid and not considering variables.
In the case of no-fault divorce, the statistic isn't as high as 70% of women initiating a divorce. this statistic also doesn't take into account things like a mutual agreement where the person who HAPPENED to file for it was the man or woman, that women are penalized less for divorce.
If I looked at this statistic with YOUR logic I could be like "whoah, I bet all these women are initiating divorce cause their husband is abusive!" but i'm not sexist and know therte's lots of variables not taken into account.
In the case of no-fault divorce, the statistic isn't as high as 70% of women initiating a divorce. this statistic also doesn't take into account things like a mutual agreement where the person who HAPPENED to file for it was the man or woman, that women are penalized less for divorce.
If I looked at this statistic with YOUR logic I could be like "whoah, I bet all these women are initiating divorce cause their husband is abusive!" but i'm not sexist and know therte's lots of variables not taken into account.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
If you read all my comments you'd know that I use analyses/statics/evidence for my arguments and a solution how to reduce divorce.
What have you done? All you did was belittle scientist in their ability to do their work and being sexist to woman by giving them a free pass of not taking responsible an adult, as if she like was a child.
Put some pants on and grow pair of balls, Colossusshadow.
What have you done? All you did was belittle scientist in their ability to do their work and being sexist to woman by giving them a free pass of not taking responsible an adult, as if she like was a child.
Put some pants on and grow pair of balls, Colossusshadow.
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colossusshadow (12/18/2015) [-] >balls
>anon
Anyways, you specifically stated statistics that either
a) didn't include variables like I specifically stated
b) used statistics that only relate to women, but completely left out men
case and point, the main picture of the original comment doesn't seem to outline number of partners before sex and likelihood of marriage success in men, only women. weird.
it's almost likely you're specifically picking examples that support your own bias.
this is some 77 cents on the dollar level of leaving **** out to factor in why the statistic is what it is.
>anon
Anyways, you specifically stated statistics that either
a) didn't include variables like I specifically stated
b) used statistics that only relate to women, but completely left out men
case and point, the main picture of the original comment doesn't seem to outline number of partners before sex and likelihood of marriage success in men, only women. weird.
it's almost likely you're specifically picking examples that support your own bias.
this is some 77 cents on the dollar level of leaving **** out to factor in why the statistic is what it is.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
>balls
>anon
Well, duh, I don't have an username and frankly, I didn't assume my post would receive much notice. Plus, isn't more important for a the debate than the people who represent it as long it's back by facts?
The reason why we debunk the 'wage gap' because other people use reliable data while deciphering details, feel free to disagree with the data, but stating the possibility of false narration doesn't make it happen.
and I honestly tried finding any link between male promiscuity and divorce. The only thing I found was the claim by 'commenters'. No data, nothing.
However, I well gladly read any article you post relating to it.
With that being said, everything from statistics to the court, even society seems to be in favor of woman in marriage through divorce. It not right.
aler.oxfordjournals.org/content/2/1/126
www.unc.edu/courses/2010fall/econ/586/001/Readings/Brinig.pdf page 4.
>anon
Well, duh, I don't have an username and frankly, I didn't assume my post would receive much notice. Plus, isn't more important for a the debate than the people who represent it as long it's back by facts?
The reason why we debunk the 'wage gap' because other people use reliable data while deciphering details, feel free to disagree with the data, but stating the possibility of false narration doesn't make it happen.
and I honestly tried finding any link between male promiscuity and divorce. The only thing I found was the claim by 'commenters'. No data, nothing.
However, I well gladly read any article you post relating to it.
With that being said, everything from statistics to the court, even society seems to be in favor of woman in marriage through divorce. It not right.
aler.oxfordjournals.org/content/2/1/126
www.unc.edu/courses/2010fall/econ/586/001/Readings/Brinig.pdf page 4.
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noblexfenrir (12/17/2015) [-] I don't even know how a prenup hasn't become standard practice for men nowadays.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Which brings up another problem with USA The judicial system has to much power. They are suppose to hold up the law. But In to many cases they rule how ever they want with no regard to the law they are suppose to support. At to the mix a president that oversteps his power with Executive orders and wow! what a messed up system. The It doesn't matter what the law is if 2/3 of our government does what they want with no regard to the law.
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scruffyguy (12/17/2015) [-]
It is the man's fault for thinking women are little flowery angels that can do no wrong.
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adplum (12/18/2015) [-] that doesnt really make it their fault. Everything the girl does in the comic is something the average decent human being wouldnt do. I wouldnt really say not approaching people expecting them to be decent people makes it his fault
I could be misinterpreting what youre saying though.
I could be misinterpreting what youre saying though.
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scruffyguy (12/18/2015) [-]
Its what an average decent MAN wouldnt do. Women have no maternal instinct for their husband. They love him because he gives them what they want which tends to just be food, sex, and shelter
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scruffyguy (12/18/2015) [-]
I didnt say that. I said they can and do feel love. They just dont love men that cant provide for them what they want.
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scruffyguy (12/18/2015) [-]
food, shelter, and sex are not material possessions, they're basic needs.
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vorarephilia 
(12/17/2015) [-] I just remembered I've never even dated before. I should probably at least get up to bat before getting angry about divorce court.
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wimpymanatee (12/18/2015) [-] The kids will turn to their dad eventually. They'll want to know his side when they grow up.
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mrstark (12/18/2015) [-] Basically what happened to my dad
His ex got custody of his 3 daughters despite being an alcoholic and gambler, she got $96,000 (aud) out of the $99,000 that my dad had. She also got the car and the house. He was left with 5k to run a business (foundation contractor) and a work truck he had paid off. He lived with his parents for 3 years before he got a house and a car. He worked 7 days a week for 6 years with 2 weeks break from Christmas Day to the week after New Years. He remarried to my mother (20 years ago) and had two children (my older sister and myself). He now owns 2 house one in Queensland valued $400k and the one I live in now valued $1.3 million. He also owns 5 vehicles, and 4 work vehicles. His ex lost all her money to alcohol and gambling, my two eldest sisters hate my father for no reason(other than ideas put into their heads by their mother), my youngest half sister is ok and realises how twisted her mother was.
TL;DR my father lost nearly everything in divorce but worked his ass off and got everything while his ex became worse off
His ex got custody of his 3 daughters despite being an alcoholic and gambler, she got $96,000 (aud) out of the $99,000 that my dad had. She also got the car and the house. He was left with 5k to run a business (foundation contractor) and a work truck he had paid off. He lived with his parents for 3 years before he got a house and a car. He worked 7 days a week for 6 years with 2 weeks break from Christmas Day to the week after New Years. He remarried to my mother (20 years ago) and had two children (my older sister and myself). He now owns 2 house one in Queensland valued $400k and the one I live in now valued $1.3 million. He also owns 5 vehicles, and 4 work vehicles. His ex lost all her money to alcohol and gambling, my two eldest sisters hate my father for no reason(other than ideas put into their heads by their mother), my youngest half sister is ok and realises how twisted her mother was.
TL;DR my father lost nearly everything in divorce but worked his ass off and got everything while his ex became worse off
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theacespecialist ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-] Holy **** , none of the top comments are ad hominem, I'm impressed FJ
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scruffyguy (12/17/2015) [-]
Remember, in the olden days, a woman's opinion was worth that of a child's in the eyes of the law. Not because they're stupid, but because they do things like this when they have too much power. Anyways, dont ever get legally married.
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hoponthefeelstrain (12/18/2015) [-] excuse me are you saying women should be treated as children again?
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ilikethisusername (12/18/2015) [-] my parents never divorced or anything but since everyone here is showing love to their fathers i guess i'll do the same
my father was in banking. he was an accountant and he was great. really, he received so many awards from every school he's been to. he was offered a PhD degree (paid off by a scholarship or something i can't remember) at a university in New Zealand. but apparently my mom said no because he was always working. we used to live in a mansion as big as my neighborhood is right now. man, we were rich though. my dad started his own business in saudi arabia but something happened...one of the partners in the business deceived my dad and took all the money and the ownership. my mom got pregnant with me (my older brother was already there) and my dad left for Peru, leaving my mom. he said he had to start all over and he knew a friend in Peru.
my dad used to send my mom money and my dad was trying so damn hard i can't even begin to tell you. he taught himself spanish by reading spanish books, talking in spanish, and watching spanish movies. his business was growing but suddenly he lost his job again and he was almost homeless. while me and my mom were struggling with money as well because my brother was only 7, i was 1 year old and my mom didn't work. after 10 years, when i was 11, i saw my father for the first time in Canada. it was really hard to be convinced that he was my dad. i lived 11 years without having a father and i just didn't know what it felt like so i had no connection with him.
my dad worked his ass off in warehouses, restaurants, everywhere he could find a place. all that even though he had an MBA degree. but my dad didn't do all that for himself, if he wanted he could've just left us and not have to send us money every month or so even though he had no job. but he went through all that **** just for us. i love my dad man. he's the wisest and strongest man i've ever known.
my father was in banking. he was an accountant and he was great. really, he received so many awards from every school he's been to. he was offered a PhD degree (paid off by a scholarship or something i can't remember) at a university in New Zealand. but apparently my mom said no because he was always working. we used to live in a mansion as big as my neighborhood is right now. man, we were rich though. my dad started his own business in saudi arabia but something happened...one of the partners in the business deceived my dad and took all the money and the ownership. my mom got pregnant with me (my older brother was already there) and my dad left for Peru, leaving my mom. he said he had to start all over and he knew a friend in Peru.
my dad used to send my mom money and my dad was trying so damn hard i can't even begin to tell you. he taught himself spanish by reading spanish books, talking in spanish, and watching spanish movies. his business was growing but suddenly he lost his job again and he was almost homeless. while me and my mom were struggling with money as well because my brother was only 7, i was 1 year old and my mom didn't work. after 10 years, when i was 11, i saw my father for the first time in Canada. it was really hard to be convinced that he was my dad. i lived 11 years without having a father and i just didn't know what it felt like so i had no connection with him.
my dad worked his ass off in warehouses, restaurants, everywhere he could find a place. all that even though he had an MBA degree. but my dad didn't do all that for himself, if he wanted he could've just left us and not have to send us money every month or so even though he had no job. but he went through all that **** just for us. i love my dad man. he's the wisest and strongest man i've ever known.
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madeofhydrogen ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-] Can you still get a divorce if you're not married? To be honest, I'm only a highschooler and the concept of marriage goes over my head. I mean, if you don't get married you remain wealthier than you were if you were married and you don't have to deal with divorce ******* people over.
Then again, I'm some idiot highschooler. I might be wrong on some things.
Then again, I'm some idiot highschooler. I might be wrong on some things.
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anon (12/18/2015) [-]
"Can you still get a divorce if you're not married?"
Kinda, in some locations if your spouse/gf lives with you as long as 6 months
your relationship status might be that legally married and yes, she can 'divorce'
along with attaining half your property. However, surely the system has an age
limit.
Kinda, in some locations if your spouse/gf lives with you as long as 6 months
your relationship status might be that legally married and yes, she can 'divorce'
along with attaining half your property. However, surely the system has an age
limit.
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animesource ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-]
1. That doesn't apply if you're in US or another feminist-heavy (not a pun) country.
2. If you get her pregnant she'll get money out of you anyways.
3. She can cry rape even if you didn't even talk to her.
2. If you get her pregnant she'll get money out of you anyways.
3. She can cry rape even if you didn't even talk to her.
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bloodshotpillow (12/18/2015) [-] This actually happened to my dad when my parents got divorced, I was 11.
I didn't realize until I was about 17 that my Mom had brainwashed me like that.
Now my dad and I hang out and have beer and tell stories, while my mom tries to establish any sort of relationship with me.
She also got pregnant 6 years ago by some random old guy.
I love my little sister but srsly mom plz.
I moved out of my moms about half a year ago because I just couldn't put up with her **** .
I didn't realize until I was about 17 that my Mom had brainwashed me like that.
Now my dad and I hang out and have beer and tell stories, while my mom tries to establish any sort of relationship with me.
She also got pregnant 6 years ago by some random old guy.
I love my little sister but srsly mom plz.
I moved out of my moms about half a year ago because I just couldn't put up with her **** .
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bloodshotpillow (12/18/2015) [-] Literally just downloaded the picture. So I guess I have only one thing to tell you.
What.
Doth.
Life?
What.
Doth.
Life?
