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Things I've learned to hate from fans

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User avatar #1 - pokimone (02/16/2014) [+] (3 replies)
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Beating a dead horse with most of them of course, but I still felt like sharing my pissy, immature, and overall obnoxious opinion with all of you.
User avatar #8 - pokimone (02/16/2014) [-]
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Oh also, and of course this is a gross generalization, there will always be people that are alright and pretty cool in any of these groups, just as there will be people who fit my bill of dislike perfectly. This is only applying to my personal expiriences with these groups, if you're in one of them and can handle yourself well, then more power to you.
User avatar #7 - masdercheef (02/16/2014) [-]
Oh, my god, the Homestuck fandom. I've learned to be wary of them (despite the fact that every other Homestuck I've met is pretty alright), and hell, I love Homestuck. It's not even the "making everything relevant" part (I just don't really care if people want to mix one thing they like with another. People do it all the time.) But, the massive aggression that a great deal of the people show towards outsiders to the fandom is simply unacceptable. Like I said, I've never personally experienced this, but I've heard enough about it (the immaturity, aggression, etc.) that there's no way it could be all fiction. I really try to see the fandom as being not so bad, but the things I've heard make me think otherwise. I guess I won't know until I've been to a convention or something for myself.
User avatar #9 to #7 - pokimone (02/16/2014) [-]
I honestly didn't hate them all that much at first, but a few things made me. I was at a convention, and there was a small group of them hanging around a water fountain my group had reserved (with the convention mind you) for a professional photoshoot, this is how we make out money every year. We went over, spoke to them for a minute, and politly asked them to move to a different fountain for about 45 minutes while we set up, and even said they could be in the photoshoot a little bit as extras if they wanted as long as they don't mind sticking around for 45 minutes while we got all the equiptment up. They were immediatly hostile saying that they "could stand anywhere they damn well pleased, and we couldn't do **** about it." We explained, still patiently, that we had the spot reserved, thats why it was roped off, it was one of 5 professional shoot locations around the convention center, they said we were liars and just hated them for being "unique, and therefore better than us". We asked one more time, and one of them said that we were lucky he wasn't in character, or he would have gone all godmode or something like that and beaten us up. So at that point we decide to bring it up with the convention, because the hostility was making us uneasy, we left the equiptment there with Suzy to watch it, and went to security to try to have them tell them they had to leave. When we get back, Suzy's cosplay was ripped, one of them was shouting about making babies with her bucket, and about $2500 worth of photography equiptment was broken on the ground. Security had to forcefully remove them, and we had to threaten a lawsuit to even get them to take responsability for what they did and pay us back the money for the equiptment. So that was my first expirience with the fandom. Second was at a different convention, there was an unofficial photoshoot, and about 150 people there. Normally, thats not a problem, photoshoots are fun, people have them, its all well and good. It is a problem when they're all in the middle of one of two hallways to the hotel, thats about 15 feet across and refuse to let anyone through to get to their rooms. The only way to the other hallway was to go outside at 3 am, into freezing rain and walk about 300 yards around the building to the other enterance. People were trying to force their way through the group, but they pretty much pushed them to the ground, or started smearing that grey body paint on them, ruining some costly cosplays. Don't even get me started on the smell, I would say at least half of them hadn't showered in a week. They even forced themselves on some people for making out photos. Again, security had to remove them. My last expience with it was with a girlfriend of mine, I'm going to keep this story short because I don't like talking about it, but long story short, she was a very sweet girl who got into homestuck, at first I didn't really mind much, but eventually, about 6 months into the relationship, I see photos of her making out with people at a homestuck photoshoot, I asked her about it and she lies to my face. Now making out in character at a photoshoot isn't something I'm really happy with in a relationship, but since we did it as a job, I am okay with it in some situations. The fact she lied to me about it though, means she knew it wasn't okay. I decide to look over that because I was in love with her. 6 months later, I was planning on proposing to her, things had been going great. I rent out a resturant and we have our anneversary dinner, and I give her a necklace that had been passed down through the generations in my family, a family heirloom, she takes it and seems really happy, and I figured I would propose the next week. Then, a friend of mine who was suspicious made a fake skype and started roleplaying with her, something she enjoyed to do. Eventually, he sends me some of the skype conversations they had, where she confessed to stripping on camera for people in other countries, and to being in a long distance relationship with a mother of 2 in australia. Her exact words were "as long as my boyfriend doesn't find out, I can pretty much do anything I want, he wouldn't understand the relationship I have with these people because he hasn't read homestuck. It taught me that you can be with multiple people at once, love hate, hate hate, love love, hate love, friendship, theres all different kinds, some people choose one, I choose them all. So I can date whoever I want." Again, she was lying to me about it, so clearly she knew it would upset me. I end up talking to her the next day about it, and say I know everything, my friend had sent it all to me, and she still tries to lie her way out of it. I gave her an ultimatum, saying she could choose me, or she could go be with those other people, and she chose to go be with them, so I broke up with her. Almost killed myself that week. A week later, she asks me to give back a USB with some naughty pictures on it, and a camera she was letting me borrow, so I put them in a small waterproof box and leave them on her doorstep. The next day, I text her and ask for my necklace back, its been passed down though 6 generations. She refuses to return it saying that according to Homestuck, she didn't have to. Later, I found out she pawned it off, the worst part is, technically, since it was a gift, I had no legal right to sue her for it. But its common politness to return something like that. I gave back the usb and camera, both of which were worth much less to her than that necklace was to me. My entire life I'd dreamed of giving that to the woman who would be my wife. And she sold it. I had to figure out which pawn shop she sold it to, get the information for the man he sold it to, track him down, and pay him $2000 to get it back. I have it again now, and it has found a new home around the neck of my lovely fiance Hannah, but I'll never forget what Kathleen did, and how that god forsaken comic changed her entire personality like that. She was the sweetest girl in the world up until reading that god damn webcomic... After that, it was like she fell of a cliff, she wasn't the woman I knew anymore... To this day, I activly despise that comic with a burning passion. No offense to you of course, you seem like a lovely person, but the vast majority of that fandom pisses me off as much as the comic does. Again, its a generalization, I've met a few homestucks who are alright, and I'm good friends with one. But overall, I have found the people in that group to be nothing but rude, sick, and twisted people who don't care for anyone that doesn't fall into their group.
User avatar #14 to #9 - maxataxx (02/16/2014) [-]
Dude, if you're going to write a novel in the comment section, you have to at least divide it into chapters.
User avatar #11 to #9 - masdercheef (02/16/2014) [-]
Damn... That is seriously wrong. I've heard that Homestuck changes some people, but I never knew just how bad it was. And the fact that they use Homestuck as justification for it is also pretty terrible, in that it gives actual good people who like it a horrible reputation. And, beside the fact that it gives some people a bad name, it's just not proper justification for that kind of behavior, if such a thing even exists.

I feel terribly sorry for the sort of experience you've had with Homestuck fans, and I really wish I could say something better than that, but I can definitely see the reason behind your view on the group. I always thought that the people I've talked to about Homestucks have just had bad luck with the fandom, but it has become apparent that the sort of generally undesirable fans people have been meeting are more the rule than the exception.

At this point, I don't even know if I can say anything else, save for that you're completely right for how you feel about Homestucks. I just hope that, if you encounter any more in the future, they'll be more like the ones I've met personally. A foolish hope, perhaps, but you sure as hell deserve a break from what you've been getting from that fandom.
#16 to #11 - undesirable (02/17/2014) [-]
I feel sad that my name is only mentioned in intellectual conversations...
User avatar #12 to #11 - pokimone (02/16/2014) [-]
I mean, I have met a few good guys who were into it, but the people I meet who like it that are well... likable, are generally people who read it casually and don't really call themselves a member of the fandom. My current fiance actually reads it, and has been since before we even met, and she hasn't lost her mind, so I suppose I should half blame the programmable mind of my ex. Still, the comic leaves a bad taste in my mouth, no matter how much I try to give it a chance. Regardless, I've met some fans of it who were perfectly nice people. These are the three worst scenarios I've run across, but there have been some that were perfectly pleasent. Issue is, the bad seems to overshadow the good for me. So I can't really like the comic, regardless of its its well done or not. -sigh-
User avatar #13 to #12 - masdercheef (02/16/2014) [-]
In my opinion, it's an unfortunate thing that the worst part of the fandom have pretty much ruined something that you never got to try for yourself. Even if you ended up disliking it, I'd bet it would probably feel better to reach that conclusion on your own.

Most of my IRL friends who are into Homestuck are pretty level-headed, likable people. It has just got to be something in the individual's personality that dictates how much Homestuck changes them, in the end. Perhaps that they're all pretty open-minded, tolerant sort of people. Nice to begin with, etc.

The "bad overshadowing the good" is actually pretty common when it comes to fandoms, from what I've seen. It happens with bronies, DBZ, Homestuck, Doctor Who, anything that has a following. The bad part is always louder than the good part, which is the issue here. Seems like no matter what people try to do to rectify that "little" issue, it just can't be fixed... Believe me, it would be nice for me to be able to mention that I'm into Homestuck or My Little Pony and not have people making all sort of nasty assumptions about me.

While it's a shame that you aren't able to give the comic a shot due to your past experiences with its fans, it's not like it's the end of the world or anything. Anyone who is sensible would never be able to hold it against you, whether they be a Homestuck or not. And, if you want my honest opinion, you aren't missing too much by not reading it, regardless of the 'why'. Some people make it out to be the best thing in the world and, while it is a fairly entertaining comic, you could definitely still find a lot out there that is either just as good or better.
User avatar #10 to #7 - pokimone (02/16/2014) [-]
And that. Is the longest thing I've ever written on FJ.
User avatar #15 - machobeasttwo (02/17/2014) [-]
Not bout to lie, I think Harry Styles is pretty funny
User avatar #6 - flemsdfer ONLINE (02/16/2014) [-]
One direction I guess I've been taught to hate. Without hearing their music, they leave a bad taste in my mouth because no one would ever shut up about them, good or bad. So forgetting they exist is pleasant to me.

Pewdiepie I find just annoying. His voice, how he acts. Just annoys me, so I just don't watch his stuff.

never heard any hate on jeff

Twilight just tried to make monsters romantic, and I didn't like it because it was a bridge to everything else. Now they have romantic zombies. I guess you could say it led to a pussified feelings culture of all horror movies and they were **** .

Beiber is just a terrible person with his actions towards others and anyone who likes him is just a terrible person to me.

Still don't know what homestuck is
User avatar #5 - trollmobile (02/16/2014) [-]
i personally have never seen even a hint of the homstuck fanbase
it's one of those things i've heard a ******* about, but never seen myself.
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