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The Theory of Evolution

 
The Theory of Evolution. "Some claim that evolution is just a theory, as if it were merely an opinion. The theory of evolution -- like the theory of gravit

"Some claim that evolution is just a theory, as if it were merely an opinion. The theory of evolution -- like the theory of gravity -- is a scientific fact. Evolution really happened. Accepting our kinship with all life on Earth is not only solid science. In my view, it’s also a soaring spiritual experience."

- Neil deGrasse Tyson

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#3 - jaevel ONLINE (03/19/2014) [-]
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#51 to #3 - anon (03/19/2014) [-]
if too early to repost as a content repost it as a comment
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User avatar #4 - tinglyturtletaint (03/19/2014) [-]
Unless the teacher is a creationist. Then it's easy. My intro bio teacher in highschool prefaced the evolution chapters with "Sorry, but I have to teach this even though I don't want to. Darwin was a known racist and came up with evolution because he thought black people looked like monkeys." Most of the class nodded in firm agreement and that was the moment I lost faith in humanity.
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#5 to #4 - anon (03/19/2014) [-]
But thats a perfectly logical way to arrive at the theory of evolution. He did the same with finches, which looked similar, implying common ancestry.
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User avatar #32 to #5 - superpats (03/19/2014) [-]
fundamentally, this is true.
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User avatar #15 to #4 - coolcalx (03/19/2014) [-]
the exact same thing happened in my marine bio class. I have no idea how my teacher passed her biology courses in college, since I know she used to be a marine biologist.
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User avatar #8 to #4 - myjeren (03/19/2014) [-]
In my biology class when the constructor said, "Ok, we'll be working on Evolution in the next unit," all of the Christian kids groaned and my friend shouted, "This is where the class gets real faggy!"
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#10 - realreality (03/19/2014) [-]
Well there's this book that explains how revolutions are lies you see..
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#29 to #10 - blokrokker (03/19/2014) [-]
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#67 to #29 - madkip [OP](03/20/2014) [-]
Bill Nye, the Scientific Warrior out to dismantle ignorance.
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User avatar #9 - rasorburn (03/19/2014) [-]
Semi related, but I saw an article that was talking about how part of the Bigbang Theory was proven correct not too long ago? Possibly yesterday? Does anyone know more about that?
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User avatar #41 to #9 - christmouth (03/19/2014) [-]
It was something with cosmic inflation, if I'm not mistaken.
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User avatar #11 to #9 - hailhisnoodliness (03/19/2014) [-]
Proven MORE correct. Some fluctuations in the cosmic background were found that further back up the they of the Big Bang expansion model.
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#2 to #1 - madkip [OP](03/19/2014) [-]
Ah yes, thank you.
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User avatar #17 - sewtse (03/19/2014) [-]
Monkeys and Apes took millions of years to evolve into their current form. The earliest human ancestors date back to only a couple of thousand of years. For me, It doesn't make sense. If evolution is true, wow did humans evolve in a few thousand years from apes when apes took millions of years to evolve themselves? You have to understand the context under which Darwin wrote his theory. He had no access to Carbon dating methods and had no idea how old the earth really was. Also it should be pointed out that the theory of evolution is just that, a THEORY. It is not a complete and universal phenomena unlike the law of gravity.
TL;DR Humans don't fit in the evolutionary time scale, and the theory of evolution is just a theory
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User avatar #20 to #17 - jjamesgordon (03/19/2014) [-]
Worsening conditions in the world force evolution to work faster. The biggest evolutionary breaks were roughly at the beginning (and end) of the last ice age.
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#42 to #17 - warprince (03/19/2014) [-]
Well technically gravity is just a theory not a fact because even though we can observe it we can't 100% prove it because we don't understand enough about it .
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User avatar #52 to #17 - christmouth (03/19/2014) [-]
Darwin didn't have the knowledge of DNA either, but that supports his theory. Darwin still though that the earth was very old, which then supports evolution.
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User avatar #54 to #17 - Ruspanic (03/19/2014) [-]
"anatomically modern" humans are traced back 200,000 years. A "few thousand years" ago was when the first human civilizations arose.

Humans took exactly as long to evolve into their current form as any other animal. Until our ancestors and the ancestors of modern apes split off from each other, we'd been evolving for exactly the same amount of time - millions of years, or whatever number. Depends where you start counting.

The other thing is that evolution isn't a constant, continuous process. It occurs in leaps and bounds, during periods of scarcity, rapid change, or disaster, when otherwise inconsequential mutations (say, a slightly darker fur color) become literally a matter of life and death. Members of a population struggle to survive and compete with each other (perhaps violently) over food and mates, and even a slight biological edge could result in your survival and the propagation of your advantageous genes.

Sometimes it's a complete coincidence that certain traits which evolved for completely different reasons become advantageous in new situations. For example, humanoid hands with opposable thumbs evolved because those hands are well-suited for grasping branches and swinging from trees, but when our native forests disappeared and became savannas, those same hands allowed us to craft and grasp simple tools and weapons for hunting.
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User avatar #55 to #17 - Kulthozuer (03/19/2014) [-]
"humans evolve in a few thousand years from apes" Sorry but if you are going to try and form an intelligent argument in any subject you have to understand the very basics of what you are arguing for/against, clearly you don't. Humans did not evolve from apes we share a common ancestor.
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User avatar #57 to #17 - adak (03/19/2014) [-]
The first bipedal primate emerged like 4-6 million years ago, and was probably our last common ancestor with gorillas and chimpanzees. More than 2 million years ago the first hominids started using tools. 200000 years ago the first of the homo sapiens emerged. It's not like everything that separated us from gorillas happened in the last couple of thousand years.
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#56 to #17 - hybredmoon (03/19/2014) [-]
I love when people say evolution is just a theory, like some guy got really drunk one day and said "Hey, what if..." and everyone just sort of agreed with him.

All ideas in science are called theories. Some theories, like evolution and gravity, are commonly accepted as scientific facts but we still CALL them theories because whos to say we might not find some evidence in the future that proves that evolution doesn't work EXACTLY the way we currently think it does. This does not mean that we will find evidence that says evolution is completely bogus, simply because the amount of evidence we already have shows us that the idea of evolution is solid.

It's like that Jay and Silent bob movie that had Chris tucker as the 13th apostle. He keeps harping on the difference between ideas and beliefs. Beliefs take wars, blood shed and such to change. Ideas, though, those are simple.
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User avatar #25 to #17 - kousei ONLINE (03/19/2014) [-]
Pardon me, but you're only talking about the identification of "human", or in other words, the earliest creatures we identify to be "human" was a few thousand years ago, what about the transitional forms. Also to be noted is that the only characteristics we have to go by is skeletal structure, we do not know when apes (the presumed branch of the evolutionary tree we reside on) may have started losing their fur.

As to evolution being "just a theory", gravity was once too. As well as the world being round and orbiting the sun. These were all just theories at some point or another. Why is it wrong to believe this theory is right too?

TL;DR We identified humans late in the time scale, still looking for their transitional forms. Theory is the first step to becoming a law.
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User avatar #48 to #25 - thesoulseeker (03/19/2014) [-]
Actually we can identify roughly when we split from our common lineage with apes by looking at DNA.

By observing gene mutations we can see how often they happen, roughly. Taking a gene that doesn't change over generations, meaning it changes only via random mutations, and measuring the difference between said gene in humans and apes we can then derive an estimate for when the human and ape lineage split.

Of course, I am a layman in the field of biology and this is my best understanding of the process, meaning I could have gotten something wrong, but the rough picture should be correct.
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#50 - afroadam (03/19/2014) [-]
when i was in 9th grade some chick said "i don't know why i should even do this work in biology, i don't even believe in evolution. this is ridiculous."

i was so upset a storm was brewing inside but i didnt go neckbeard and rant.

it's like if i said i don't believe in all the work i do in my math class so why should i do it? (not that i would, that **** works the brain)
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User avatar #60 to #50 - misfitsftw (03/19/2014) [-]
i didnt believe in any gods or religious principles, but we still had to do religious studies
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User avatar #61 to #60 - afroadam (03/19/2014) [-]
in 10th grade for history i had a research paper on middle eastern religion. it's cool to learn of different cultures when im stuck around pretty much mostly christians and catholics.

but i dont partake in that kind of stuff personally. im on neutral grounds
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User avatar #62 to #61 - misfitsftw (03/19/2014) [-]
we focused mostly on christianity and islam. dont get me wrong though, it was interesting finding out what they believe and actually how similar the two religions are to one another. i would probably have prefered two, more different, religions though, like buddhism or hinduism or shinto or sikhism etc
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#19 - skeptical (03/19/2014) [-]
1.     a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based         on general principles independent of the thing to be explained. "It's only a theory!"
1.     a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based
        on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.

"It's only a theory!"
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#65 to #19 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/20/2014) [-]
Here, take this.
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User avatar #12 - yunoknow (03/19/2014) [-]
One thing I never understood about Creationists is how they typically attribute everything to God and all His glory, but when it comes to the most spectacular and morbidly beautiful process of evolution, they just completely reject it.
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#13 to #12 - lostcoastmyth (03/19/2014) [-]
While generally true, a good amount of us Creationists actually have no problem studying evolution because we don't believe in the us vs. them mentality. pic is mfw i get an A in human evolutionary biology
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User avatar #28 to #13 - yunoknow (03/19/2014) [-]
Faith in humanity slightly restored. You should be an advocate for this movement among all your fellow Creationists, they are truly missing out on something amazing.
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User avatar #38 to #28 - zzforrest (03/19/2014) [-]
I'm not a creationist but most creationists I know are like this.
As with everything, the few retards makes the whole bunch look stupid.
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User avatar #68 to #38 - yunoknow (03/20/2014) [-]
That's good to hear. I'm studying environmental science and evolution is the closest thing to fact for us. But not all of us completely reject creationism while the origin of life is still under debate.
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User avatar #33 to #28 - shiifter (03/19/2014) [-]
What movement? Having a life?
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User avatar #40 - PlaystationGuy (03/19/2014) [-]
The new episode of Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey explained evolution pretty well.
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#44 to #40 - anon (03/19/2014) [-]
i enjoyed that episode.
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#39 - dbBlues (03/19/2014) [-]
That proves nothing. Where is the evidence?
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#34 - shiifter (03/19/2014) [-]
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User avatar #66 to #34 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/20/2014) [-]
Found the creationist.
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User avatar #36 to #34 - roodypoohero (03/19/2014) [-]
Kill yourself, now.
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#45 - anon (03/19/2014) [-]
Apparently deGrasse in Neil deGrasse Tyson is a swear word by FJ standards. deGrAssed
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User avatar #53 - shodaihokage (03/19/2014) [-]
As a somewhat religious person myself all these great advancements in technology/ science only further my beliefs. But all that personal stuff aside a great way to prove natural selection to somebody is by showing them a simple experiment.

Get Mustard plant seeds and plant em. Once they mature in a week or two kill kill of any mustard plants lacking a lot little hairs. Plants that have these hairs get to survive (They represent more fit organisms). Take the seeds from the hairy plants and plant those. Keep repeating this process until every mustard plant that grows is very hairy.

Even though this is artificial selection it is still a very effective way to learn and even discover it for yourself.

In addition here is a great case study that shows natural selection over fairly short amount
of time.
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#43 - willindor (03/19/2014) [-]
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User avatar #7 - Anonomousthirteen (03/19/2014) [-]
Scientific fact? I'd argue that, purely on the grounds that human beings, being short-lived (astronomically speaking) cannot actually physically observe it happening.
That being said, anyone who denies that it happened is a ******** and shall be called thus.
TL;DR I'm just bitching about exact terminology, please ignore me.
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User avatar #69 - therandomsauce (03/20/2014) [-]
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User avatar #59 - misfitsftw (03/19/2014) [-]
living in england, where less than half of the population is christian and most of those that are either accept evolution into their beliefs, believing our evolutionary path was guided by god, or accept that not everyone has to believe exactly the same thing and mind their own business 99.999% of the time.
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User avatar #35 - juter (03/19/2014) [-]
[catholicism intensifies]
 
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