The Red Dragon, and the boring crosses. To anyone who is confused between the history of St George and Y Ddraig Goch (The Red Dragon): Both of these tales have  Wales England scotland ireland Flags dragon cymru
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The Red Dragon, and the boring crosses

The Red Dragon, and the boring crosses. To anyone who is confused between the history of St George and Y Ddraig Goch (The Red Dragon): Both of these tales have

To anyone who is confused between the history of St George and Y Ddraig Goch (The Red Dragon):
Both of these tales have nothing in relevance to eachother, and here is why!

"St George didn't smite the Welsh Dragon - he had smite another dragon, which isn't relevant to the Welsh Dragon.

The story of the Welsh (Red) Dragon was that many years ago it defended Wales against the White Dragon from invading Wales who carried plague and doom to the Welsh people, to which the King of Wales had to make a plan on how to stop the White Dragon from invading - he filled the lake at the bottom of Snowdon with mead, where both of the Dragons drunk all the mead and turned into stone which protected all of Wales from the White Dragon, which is why we celebrate and love the Red Dragon, whom is now our symbol of our nation.

St George was said to have killed a Plague-carrying dragon which terrorised the people of England, where they had to sacrifice their livestock to prevent the dragon from causing certain doom.
St George killed a dragon to protect the Empress's daughter - in reality, the dragon was said to actually be an escaped crocodile from Richard I in the River Stour."

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Uh excuse me but where the **** this fit in
Must love helm the rest of them have perfectly ordinary crosses, and
then Wales is like " **** l/ let' s put a ************* dragon on here"
I think its Inch pretty badass.
reblogging because it got better.
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User avatar #130 - ilikecows **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [+] (8 replies)
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To those who still struggle with knowing the difference between the English and the Welsh, here is a vidya showing you exactly what is different about us! "Differences between the english and the welsh" By Lloyd Davies


mwynhau! (enjoy!)
User avatar #4 - backupclover (12/18/2013) [-]
I think we should send this to Parliament.
#284 to #4 - baltman (12/22/2013) [-]
I think you should suck my big fat cock m8.
#285 to #4 - baltman (12/23/2013) [-]
sup whore. how you doing How many cocks have you sucked today?
User avatar #286 to #285 - backupclover (12/23/2013) [-]
What?
#287 to #286 - baltman (12/23/2013) [-]
Chicken butt, you homo
User avatar #288 to #287 - backupclover (12/23/2013) [-]
A lotta samefag in here.
#289 to #288 - baltman (12/23/2013) [-]
An eagle eye you got there.
God dammn you're ******* stupid.
User avatar #290 to #289 - backupclover (12/23/2013) [-]
OK, somehow I'm stupid. I don't know who the **** you are but you're a cunt.
#295 to #290 - baltman (12/23/2013) [-]
I'm glad you acknowledge that. I'm your dad.
Oi watch yer toung boi.
#31 to #4 - baltman (12/18/2013) [-]
I think you should go back to le tumblr you gigantic faggot.   
 I had a coitus with your mam
I think you should go back to le tumblr you gigantic faggot.
I had a coitus with your mam
#97 to #31 - anon (12/18/2013) [-]
Comment Picture
User avatar #166 to #31 - backupclover (12/18/2013) [-]
1. I've made 1 post on Tumblr asking how the **** do I use it and 2, my FJ name is darker than yours, newfag, **** you.
#175 to #166 - baltman (12/18/2013) [-]
Relax bitches, its just bantz not a dick don't take it so hard.
Relax bitches, its just bantz not a dick don't take it so hard.
User avatar #291 to #175 - backupclover (12/23/2013) [-]
This ain't banter, this is being a knobhead.
#292 to #291 - baltman (12/23/2013) [-]
Now ain't you a little bitch m8? Whats the matter can't take any bantz?
User avatar #293 to #292 - backupclover (12/23/2013) [-]
I don't think you understand banter.
#294 to #293 - baltman (12/23/2013) [-]
I don't think you can take any. Why being such a softcunt m8?
User avatar #239 to #166 - existacne (12/19/2013) [-]
...but it's not darker.
User avatar #261 to #239 - backupclover (12/19/2013) [-]
It is slightly darker than his.
#276 to #261 - existacne (12/19/2013) [-]
Well, these nickname looks just the same colour for me.
#144 to #31 - furiousmarshmellow (12/18/2013) [-]
Just because you obviously weren't loved by your parents, have no friends, and have a small wiener DOESN'T mean you have to impose your anger and negativity towards those subjects upon us.
Just because you obviously weren't loved by your parents, have no friends, and have a small wiener DOESN'T mean you have to impose your anger and negativity towards those subjects upon us.
#5 to #4 - chainchomp (12/18/2013) [-]
great idea all in favor say I
User avatar #42 to #5 - hipickausername (12/18/2013) [-]
e ****** dyslexia
User avatar #36 to #5 - neznanc **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]
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#23 to #5 - anon (12/18/2013) [-]
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User avatar #15 to #5 - gigamuffin (12/18/2013) [-]
I
#90 - CMSTF (12/18/2013) [-]
#8 - bhicks (12/18/2013) [-]
User avatar #105 to #8 - kanpai (12/18/2013) [-]
it's getting really hard to fight the power
User avatar #37 to #8 - adzodeux (12/18/2013) [-]
So much TTGL lately, I love it
User avatar #93 to #37 - admiralen (12/18/2013) [-]
******* hated the ending though, pissed me off to no end killing of nia was pointless and deuchy as ****
User avatar #102 to #93 - yellowcardraiden ONLINE (12/18/2013) [-]
Well, seems like you're the only one that feels that.
User avatar #103 to #102 - admiralen (12/18/2013) [-]
really? am i alone on this? there was just no reason for her to die though
#174 to #103 - wagastragas ONLINE (12/18/2013) [-]
if you would had paid attention, you would see she had to die cause she was an antispiral and there was no more antispiral energy left
User avatar #232 to #174 - admiralen (12/19/2013) [-]
except she was also a human with human flesh, and in fact was the daughter of the spiral king, she no doubt was more than just antispiral. her dying was just the writers being sadistic and asinine
#297 to #232 - wagastragas ONLINE (01/14/2014) [-]
it was his daugther, but just partly, she had antispiral dna, and also turned into a whole antispiral being later. there is a reason why lord genome had those "harem villages" besides just for fun.
User avatar #298 to #297 - admiralen (01/14/2014) [-]
its obvious she wasnt turned into a whole antispiral being since she still retained her memories and love for shimon, i just wish they couldve let her live and be happy with shimon... great anime but that ending left a bitter aftertaste and pretty much ruined a lot of it for me
User avatar #113 to #103 - klotrock (12/18/2013) [-]
I agree, it's definitely a denial ending.
User avatar #114 to #113 - admiralen (12/18/2013) [-]
i suspect the writers hate the characters with a fierce intensity, they put yoko in relationships twice just to murder her lovers, and then let shimon get married just to murder his ******* wife, you know it hurts a lot.... especially when her death was uncalled for and made no sence
User avatar #116 to #114 - klotrock (12/18/2013) [-]
Yeah, the way they set it up just didn't feel all that tragic either. It just sort of happened at the end. I also don't like how Simon just basically became a bum and didn't get the recognition for saving the ******* universe.
User avatar #117 to #116 - admiralen (12/18/2013) [-]
yeah, but what pissed me off was that her death made literally no sence, even if the ******* anti spirals go out of existence that shouldnt change anything, shes a human born by two humans, she shouldnt just disapear cause the ones that remote controlled her died
User avatar #120 to #117 - klotrock (12/18/2013) [-]
Oh right, forgot about that. Why did you have to make me remember the implausibility of her death?
User avatar #137 to #120 - admiralen (12/18/2013) [-]
because i recently watched the series and it inflicts great pain and rage in me right now
User avatar #237 to #137 - CMSTF (12/19/2013) [-]
It's because the moment she was activated by the Anti-Spirals, she became Anti-Spiral, she wasn't human anymore. The Anti-Spirals are all of the people on their homeworld as one consciousness, in one form, Nia became part of the consciousness, so when it was destroyed, she eventually withered away after that
User avatar #238 to #237 - admiralen (12/19/2013) [-]
you have to admit it was stupid and pointless, people giving in just like that in a show thats all about doing the impossible and fighting fate, just letting her die and being cool with it. the show was over, why couldnt they just let them be together...
User avatar #256 to #238 - hanabro (12/19/2013) [-]
Because the ultimate message wasn't about doing the impossible. The true meaning of the series is the importance of moving forward. No matter how much adversity you face, you have to keep pushing forward. That's what the drills symbolize; With each turn, you move an inch closer. That's why Simon didn't use Spiral Power to bring back Nia, or Kamina for that matter: Spiral Power is the energy used to move forward, not backwards.

People who think the message was "Du da imposibl c da invisibl row row row your boat" didn't understand the series at all.
User avatar #273 to #256 - admiralen (12/19/2013) [-]
its not about that, i just dont see why they felt they had to kill her off, the series was over and they had saved her. couldnt they just allow them to be happy together?
User avatar #279 to #273 - hanabro (12/19/2013) [-]
Her death was to drive that point home. She died to show that Simon is capable of moving on. It was an important part of the story.
User avatar #280 to #279 - admiralen (12/20/2013) [-]
kaminas death showed he can move on, them killing her was just mean and sadistic, for gods sake the series was over, but no no they cant let it end on a happy note with a happy ever after... nope
#158 - senkard (12/18/2013) [-]
Its no dragon but it is a two headed mutant bear
#85 - flange (12/18/2013) [-]
Seeing as all the other United Kingdom countries use the flags of their patron saints i'd assume if they were to add in a welsh flag it'd be with this flag, the flag of St David
User avatar #167 to #85 - commandershit (12/18/2013) [-]
That looks like englands evil twin
#201 - albertjester (12/19/2013) [-]
personaly i always thought the dragon should be shrunk down and just put in the middle of the centre cross.

<==== like this, but withought the white. like, still have the centre of the cross be whole and just outline the dragon in black so it still stands out.
User avatar #267 to #201 - backupclover (12/19/2013) [-]
That actually looks better.
User avatar #110 - sirgrimrock (12/18/2013) [-]
I am Welsh so I must Comment, now lets sing Calon Lan.
User avatar #118 to #110 - RidingMyPimpmobile (12/18/2013) [-]
Sosban fach's totally better...
User avatar #122 to #118 - ilikecows **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]
I like Men of Harlech & Mae Hen Wlad fan Nhadau the best
User avatar #123 to #122 - RidingMyPimpmobile (12/18/2013) [-]
I think our national anthem is kinda overrated to be honest.
User avatar #127 to #123 - Dincorta (12/18/2013) [-]
It really is. This **** is the absolute bomb right here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=THHCFcBtG70

I say it should be our national anthem. Glorious!
#129 to #127 - RidingMyPimpmobile (12/18/2013) [-]
Jesus...			*******		...Christ.    
   
There's something about the Welsh accent when its autotuned that makes me giggle like a twat.
Jesus... ******* ...Christ.

There's something about the Welsh accent when its autotuned that makes me giggle like a twat.
User avatar #131 to #129 - Dincorta (12/18/2013) [-]
The best thing to do is to imagine a line of Welsh rugby players, half-arsedly singing it before a game. I would guffaw like a schoolgirl.
User avatar #133 to #131 - RidingMyPimpmobile (12/18/2013) [-]
It'd definitely be scarier than the Haka
#257 to #127 - iamtheceej (12/19/2013) [-]
Getting to sing this in junior school was the highlight of my educational career.
User avatar #126 to #123 - ilikecows **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]
Having it sung by a choir of old men makes it sound brilliant in my opinion, however, it needs to respected and sung properly for it to sound good, so I can see why you may think it's a bit overated - better than God Save the Queen, though
User avatar #128 to #126 - RidingMyPimpmobile (12/18/2013) [-]
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a good anthem and I like it, it's just a thing I have about all anthems. I agree that it sounds great if sang correctly though, and also how God Save The Queen is definitely sub-par.
User avatar #125 to #110 - Dincorta (12/18/2013) [-]
Caaalon laaaaan yn llawn daioooni
#9 - honestchap (12/18/2013) [-]
In the future if Scotland leave the UK the union flag could look like this.   
   
I say bring it on.
In the future if Scotland leave the UK the union flag could look like this.

I say bring it on.
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#13 to #9 - thebrownydestroyer **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #95 to #13 - montferrat (12/18/2013) [-]
well you deserve it, dont you? soon getting rid of your best part, alba longa? oh, how i long to see scotland independent!
User avatar #96 to #95 - thebrownydestroyer **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]
but I still don't see why they want to leave, there really is no point to it
User avatar #98 to #96 - montferrat (12/18/2013) [-]
well i assume, its kind of a nationalist thing, isnt it? there are many examples of european regions, wanting to independent. in a europe of the many, i could see the point; unity in diversity in a federal european government? that's only an example. though i see your point of view as an englishman.
User avatar #99 to #98 - captainpatters (12/18/2013) [-]
I think blind nationalism will result in independence happening, but I'm worried people will totally disregard the economic fallout this may cause. And Scotland is not our "best part"
User avatar #101 to #99 - montferrat (12/18/2013) [-]
yeah, economically its not the best, thats clear to me. but dont you think that it could make its own way? i mean, if those tiny states as slowenia etc can make it, then a prosper northern european scottish free state surely can, too, don't you think?
User avatar #157 to #101 - captainpatters (12/18/2013) [-]
Slovenia had a much lower GDP to maintain, and the social cost of a Scottish citizen is much more then anyone in eastern Europe, look at Ireland and you will see a financially crumbled state. While the people saw much less of a knock on effect like in Spain and Greece it has hit the country hard and is still resonating through house prices and overall increased cost of living.

I want Scotland to be prosperous, but Independence may not be the answer.
User avatar #274 to #157 - montferrat (12/19/2013) [-]
i cant but agree. though i dont think one thinks that far. priority seems to be independence, not prosperity (though they will be rioting once they wont be prosper anymore).
User avatar #35 to #9 - mankey (12/18/2013) [-]
I think it'd be easier to just have Wales change their flag to have something blue in it. Then we can keep the old Union Flag and just say the blue represents Wales.
User avatar #44 to #35 - ilikecows **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]
We're not changing our dragon, you can **** off otherwise - it has historical value to us
User avatar #45 to #44 - mankey (12/18/2013) [-]
Just colour the sky blue! It doesn't have to be a large change!
#47 to #45 - ilikecows **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]
WE'RE NOT CHANGING OUR FLAG YOU SHEEP-LESS GO-GETTER
WE'RE NOT CHANGING OUR FLAG YOU SHEEP-LESS GO-GETTER
#49 to #47 - mankey (12/18/2013) [-]
There did it for you! Say thank you! It looks way better!
#50 to #49 - ilikecows **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]






I am going to eat you now, look out boyo
#56 to #50 - mankey (12/18/2013) [-]
Fiiiiiine I'll be more sensitive to your historical values.

Better?
User avatar #62 to #56 - ilikecows **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]
Get rid of the blue and we're a-okay
#75 to #62 - mankey (12/18/2013) [-]
Hmph, some people have no understanding of artistic expression!
User avatar #77 to #75 - ilikecows **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]
NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL PROPER


PHWOAAR
User avatar #81 to #75 - honestchap (12/18/2013) [-]
That's not unusual.
#73 to #62 - anon (12/18/2013) [-]
i love your lack of anger towards this. A* to you bro.
i love your lack of anger towards this. A* to you bro.
User avatar #152 to #9 - timmity (12/18/2013) [-]
its also very likely that NI will be going soon, england is loosing their grip and scotland is porbably also going, so soon i will just be st. georges cross on a white and green backround, mabye with a dragon.
User avatar #228 to #9 - lordmoldywart (12/19/2013) [-]
That looks like something that belongs on a food standards label

Not sure why
#34 to #9 - unholyjebus (12/18/2013) [-]
I prefer this
#10 to #9 - honestchap (12/18/2013) [-]
Better yet get that bitching dragon into it (but not so much that Wales starts to think it's important).
#48 to #10 - anon (12/18/2013) [-]
That actually looks really ******* sweet.
#159 to #10 - dross (12/18/2013) [-]
I can dig that.
I can dig that.
#61 - lulzforhiroshima (12/18/2013) [-]
If hitler was dank enough to capture britian.
User avatar #64 to #61 - mrwalkerfour (12/18/2013) [-]
he wouldnt do that, he would eradicate the british flag and impose the nazi flag instead, like with france
User avatar #154 to #64 - thatoneiranianguy ONLINE (12/18/2013) [-]
Well, just to clarify things here, that version of the swastika has become known as a representation of those of the National Socialist Party, that being said, that flag, if Britain turned to National Socialism, probably in some manner would look like that.

I because I'm that much of a cunt, Northern and Western France was really only occupied, southern France formed a collaborative government known as Vichy France which worked under the Germans and they retained their nation's flag. So yeah...you're kind of wrong.
User avatar #169 to #154 - wunderlichh (12/18/2013) [-]
You're kinda right, there was no swastika in the vichy-france flag. But there was a fascist facet instead, so it was still axis looking and it wouldn't upset and outrage the french in the vichy part...
User avatar #170 to #169 - thatoneiranianguy ONLINE (12/18/2013) [-]
True, but the point basically being is Germany aloud France to retain itself as an autonomous vassal without the NSDAP flag.

I think the occupation of France is kind of confusing topic for many at times, as not everyone was aware a entity known as Vichy France existed, which was essentially still apart of occupied France but yet just the unoccupied region.
User avatar #178 to #170 - wunderlichh (12/18/2013) [-]
True, it wasn't occupied, and was practically in terms of rules a pretty free country. The germans didn't even demand vichy to hand out the jews to germany, but Phillipe Petain did it anyway to keep the relations with germany stable.
Besides, the Vichy French inhabitants were at first outraged to live in a "neutral" country without having revenge on germany, but when the british navy had destroyed a large fleet from the french to prevent it to fall it into german hands, the vichy french didn't feel to help the british trators and instead did nothing...
It even escalated that vichy french soldiers did fight against the free french forces in north africa and syria when vichy was forced into war.
So the occupation of france was pretty weird if you ask me...
User avatar #76 to #64 - lulzforhiroshima (12/18/2013) [-]
Thanks genius.
User avatar #112 - nocakeforthetroll (12/18/2013) [-]
The welsh flag is called "Saint **** you I'm a dragon" if anyone was interested.
#160 - Jowi (12/18/2013) [-]
My face when
#38 - soopabrentford (12/18/2013) [-]
there was an article on the BBC website recently about what Britain would have as a flag it Scotland left. My favourite suggestion was using the old flag of Wessex (has the red of england, wales and northern ireland) PLUS  a 			*************		 dragon. Pretty badass flag if you ask me
there was an article on the BBC website recently about what Britain would have as a flag it Scotland left. My favourite suggestion was using the old flag of Wessex (has the red of england, wales and northern ireland) PLUS a ************* dragon. Pretty badass flag if you ask me
User avatar #39 to #38 - ilikecows **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]
That looks like the Dragon similar to the one that our Welsh Ragon defended Wales against, and the one that St George smited - so based upon historical story telling, I might give it a miss - dragons are still cool as heck though, and so I will agree with you to a certain extent
User avatar #115 to #38 - biggathy (12/18/2013) [-]
Was about to post this myself my good man.
#79 to #38 - sozmonkey (12/18/2013) [-]
for anyone that didn't see the flag designs
#46 to #38 - tomwh (12/18/2013) [-]
I saw that, and there were some pretty awful looking designs..

Pic related
#80 - dewati (12/18/2013) [-]
Everything gets better with dragons!
User avatar #92 to #43 - paydroh (12/18/2013) [-]
Thumbs for Spongebob!
User avatar #30 - finblob (12/18/2013) [-]
The whole "white cloud in the sky against the blue background inspired the Scottish flag" thing is fake.

There's never a blue sky in Scotland..
#208 - mymiddleleg (12/19/2013) [-]
British countries use the flags of their patrol saints except for Wales, but in case anyone is wonder this would be the flag of Saint David
User avatar #52 - komoikluku (12/18/2013) [-]
Ireland is NOT a part of britain
User avatar #54 to #52 - ilikecows **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]
I'm assuming they mean Northern Ireland, so don't worry
User avatar #58 to #54 - komoikluku (12/18/2013) [-]
yeah you're probably right, sorry I jumped the gun and didn't think about it
#60 to #58 - ilikecows **User deleted account** (12/18/2013) [-]
That's alright, I still love you
That's alright, I still love you
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