The New Doctor. .. And that is how you separate the REAL Doctor Who fans from those who just watch the show cause the guy is hot
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User avatar #7 - fatspartan (08/23/2014) [-]
And that is how you separate the REAL Doctor Who fans from those who just watch the show cause the guy is hot
User avatar #27 to #7 - nimba (08/23/2014) [-]
there's always been a considerable portion of the fanbase that would like a thorough kissing from the doctor
User avatar #76 to #27 - zaxzwim ONLINE (08/23/2014) [-]
i'm a straight white guy and i wouldn't mind to much if David did that to me, it would be a bit weird but not as weird as some stuff my friends have done
User avatar #126 to #7 - crampers (08/24/2014) [-]
that was merely a bonus
#63 to #7 - nahbro (08/23/2014) [-]
I thought that David Tennant was the only hot one.

The other guy had a really weird face.
#32 to #7 - anon (08/23/2014) [-]
Yeah, i don't think it's the fact he was hot, it's just he was a far better actor to play the Doctor than anyone else.
#130 to #32 - Jowi (08/24/2014) [-]
Matt Smith wasn't that good of a Doctor, he was just the same character as 10.
The reason he was popular was because the time he took over was when the writing became more suited to the Tumblr fan girl audience that was all
#127 to #32 - tomatoesauce (08/24/2014) [-]
David Tennant lived his life to be the doctor. He only got into acting so he could one day become the doctor. He worked hard all of his life, became the ultimate true doctor who fan. That is why he played the best doctor by many people's standards.
User avatar #20 to #7 - robotvoice (08/23/2014) [-]
nothing like those imaginary doctor who fans right?
User avatar #1 - thewebspinner (08/23/2014) [-]
getting so ******* hyped for tonight man.
User avatar #59 to #1 - mrvalane (08/23/2014) [-]
How did you find it?
User avatar #2 to #1 - enemyoftrn (08/23/2014) [-]
ITS ******* TONIGHT????
#3 to #2 - thewebspinner (08/23/2014) [-]
>download chrome
>get hola extension
>whatch it on iplayer tonight.

only 8 hours to go
User avatar #4 to #3 - thewebspinner (08/23/2014) [-]
oh yeah, it's a special double length episode too.
Got some mates coming round with bevs and pizza later.
User avatar #8 to #4 - zplatter (08/23/2014) [-]
We actually got a lot of cinemas to host it here in norway
User avatar #103 to #8 - SlicerFlux (08/24/2014) [-]
And we loved it.
User avatar #12 to #3 - exceeding (08/23/2014) [-]
Any idea how i can watch the new doctor tonight without Hola? i can't download it
User avatar #14 to #12 - thewebspinner (08/23/2014) [-]
basically you need some sort of proxy service with servers based in the uk.
What's the issue with downloading hola? I might be able to help you out with that.
If that's not possible just try searching for a US iplayer website or a site that's broadcasting the show tonight.
User avatar #18 to #14 - exceeding (08/23/2014) [-]
maternation saved my bacon and gave me a good link
User avatar #19 to #18 - thewebspinner (08/23/2014) [-]
ha! just a bit too slow! no worries. enjoy it man.
#16 to #14 - exceeding (08/23/2014) [-]
Well i'm getting this error <
What kind of search terms should i use?
User avatar #45 to #16 - secondfunction ONLINE (08/23/2014) [-]
Use tor.
#9 - anon (08/23/2014) [-]
John Pertwee is best Pertwee.
User avatar #101 to #9 - zeldapronmaster ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
I agrwee
#11 - harrywarden (08/23/2014) [-]
Tom Baker is my favorite Doctor.
Tom Baker is my favorite Doctor.
User avatar #35 to #11 - komandantmirkoo (08/23/2014) [-]
a few years back i made my mom knit me a tom baker scarf because she was into knitting then, and i liked doctor who. only now am i begining to understand how ******* cringeworthy that is.
#49 to #35 - relant (08/23/2014) [-]
I don't see anything cringeworthy about it...
User avatar #43 to #11 - torky (08/23/2014) [-]
Tom Baker was mentioned in the new episode today. They made fun of his scarf
#6 - dawsoco ONLINE (08/23/2014) [-]
hfw he hears her say that
hfw he hears her say that
User avatar #5 - listerthepessimist (08/23/2014) [-]
William Hartnell says hi
User avatar #23 - thechosentroll (08/23/2014) [-]
I'd actually start watching dr. Who if he swears like a ************ .
User avatar #28 to #23 - mads (08/23/2014) [-]
It'll never happen it's on before 9
User avatar #39 - vampyrate (08/23/2014) [-]
David Tennant is my favorite doctor, but I still watch because I love the show.
#94 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
Okay, I'm a Brit so I've already seen the Episode but I'll say this much... I really hated the episode.

Not because Capaldi is a bad actor (He's not) or that he was too old (He's not) but because it feels like it was written and directed by a ten-year-old. I don't think I've ever seen an episode of Dr. Who more confused about what it wanted to be. There are some RIDICULOUSLY dark elements in the story like that whole thing with the balloon... I mean... my god.... but then you've got slapstick comedy with cartoony noises.

I don't need Dr. Who to be dark and I don't need it to be funny. I'm fine with an episode being one or the other but I'd like it at the very least to choose one. Take, for example, the introduction of Matt Smith. It was a pretty simple story that allowed us to focus on the characters and the themes that would characterise the Matt Smith era of the series, namely a lot of timey-wimey-cor-and-blimey and dangling plot-threads that get picked up by later episodes.

It was short, sweet, relatively simple, not too complex, and introduced Smith in a really damn cool way. There was just that wonderful moment of "I'm the Doctor." where I felt "Yes, this IS the Doctor."

Next episode was some pretty grim source material but it worked because of the management of tone.

But with this episode I didn't get that "I'm the Doctor." moment. The episode feels as confused as the Doctor is and the direction given to Capaldi must have been... bizarre given the way he overacts throughout the episode. And not just him, the writing seemed really... quirky. And not in the traditional Doctor Who, "We're serious people but we've got our quirks." but in a really forced way.

It's like Sherlizard Holmes spent the episode saying "Ha ha, we're lesbians!" and Strax was degraded from the mentally-deficiant but kinds badass muscle-man/nurse into "I'm the dumb one."

I'm not saying I've given up on Who, far from it, but this first episode has me kinda worried.
User avatar #113 to #94 - deltoraquest ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
I haven't seen the episode yet but you mentioned that the 'matt smith era' started off with making the doctor look cool and setting the theme of his run, because his personality manifested into the world around him, sometimes dark, sometimes quirky and very mysterious.

I would argue that from what I got from you, they're doing the same thing, peter capaldi is suffering from regeneration amnesia or something so he doesn't know what to do with himself, so he would try doing different things until he finds a suit that fits him (metaphorically).

oh and the 'serious but gimmicky' forced at us, is that not what old people are like? they seem serious but really they're constantly pulling our legs and want to be known for it? unless they're crotchety old **********
User avatar #116 to #113 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
Yeah... I'm gonna insist you see the episode then come back to me on this because the levels of bad-ness in this episode are pretty... bad. Honestly, this isn't a conversation we can have until you know fully what you're talking about and that's not a slight on you, more a condemnation of the episode itself. There's an awful lot wrong with it on a lot of levels and perhaps the greatest crime of all is... The Doctor never feels like the Doctor. Not once in the episode. He feels like Peter Capaldi doing an impression of the doctor whilst suffering from some various mind-altering drugs.

Capaldi is a good actor so I don't blame him but someone on the writing/direction teams ****** up royally on this episode.
User avatar #117 to #116 - deltoraquest ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
very well, I shall favourite this comment and get back to you probably never.
User avatar #119 to #117 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
Sure, just don't let the episode ruin your hopes for the series. Mine are still high regardless of this... I suppose 'stumble' is the kindest word I can think of.
User avatar #121 to #119 - deltoraquest ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
I won't let it get me down, after all, even if the series starts going down horrendously, there's still adventures to be rehad.
User avatar #122 to #121 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
Good to hear.
User avatar #136 to #122 - deltoraquest ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
right, after watching the episode, I must say there are tons of flaws though all around I enjoyed it.

+villain was interdasting.
+made sherlizard holmes and girl I'm pretty was dead an official couple.
+the climax (giggity)
+the phone call at the end, got me right in the feels.
+strax got a laugh out of me, and that doesn't usually happen with strax.
+peter capalldi and his emotion conveying skills.
+david tennant qoutes and link back so S.S. mary antionette and their use of time travel.
-lesbian couple was a tad bit exploited/forced.
-bits that didn't make sense or were just plain pointless (I.E. strax scanning clara, doctor writing random math all over his room
-looney-toons sound effect when he fell asleep
-if the dinosaur followed them through the time vortex via eating the tardis, would it not, I dunno, die of time vortex exposure?
-very end scene with heaven. Who was female? river song? What was promised land? the library?

I may have missed some details that I did/n't like but still.

7/10 may watch again later.
User avatar #137 to #136 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
They were already an official couple, however if you do watch it again make a note of how many 'lesbian' jokes there are in the episode. The relationship between those two characters has forgone any measure of subtlety and become the butt of jokes, and not particularly well-thought-out ones either. As well as lesbian snogging which would have been interesting if it weren't horribly contrived, thus robbing the image of it's power.

The climax was awful. Unnecessarily acrobatic descent from the cieling (and then Strax falls because hue hue hue he's completely incompetant) and then **** goes south and A SONTARAN POINTS A GUN AT HIMSELF! The race who literally live and die for battle wants to shoot himself! The **** ?!

The phone call was great, but only worked to highlight how much Smith owned the role and how little Capaldi had to work with to make the role his own in this episode. It was good but the entire episode seemed to be an apology for making the Doctor older.

Strax has never been the most dignified of characters and has long been the butt of jokes and I'm cool with that, however these jokes seemed somewhat forced and poorly timed. There's a lot of subtleties that go into proper comedy and suffice it to say whereas normally Strax is written well enough that those subtleties are in-play there were some scenes that were direly lacking them in this episode.

Capaldi is a good actor but the director of this ep must have been on speed or some **** because my god Capaldi turned in a bad performance. The Doctor's always been eccentric but knowing acting like I do I promise you that was one horribly directed performance. Capaldi's a good enough actor to know that **** don't fly but a bad director can pull a bad performance out of even the best actors.
User avatar #142 to #137 - deltoraquest ONLINE (01/25/2015) [-]
this is extremely late but: what did you think of series 8? I'm kinda frightened as doctor who seems to be appealing to a much younger audience and forgetting the rest of the family. It had some neat ideas but it seemed there wasnt much effort put into the directing and script. I think the directors should revisit the old episodes and figure out what made them great before tackling series 9 or else it may just end up a confused mess of a genre.
User avatar #139 to #137 - deltoraquest ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
when I said climax I was referring to the skin balloon, the acrobatics and fighting was just stupid.

personally to me it was hugely disturbing but at the same time I thought it was a bit over the top. I thought it was a good way to play it but I'm pretty neutral towards it.

looking at your other points, I more or less disagree but then again I'm 15 years old, have an essay due in about 10 hours and i'm tired, I'm not quite built for reviewing something at this point. Still, I enjoyed the episode and I'm sure the director will fix his **** and make the doctor someone we can all love again.
User avatar #138 to #136 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
Here are something you missed.

Hot-air-balloon MADE FROM HUMAN SKIN! WHAT THE **** ?!

That's not even 'dark', that's just ******* nuts. I mean, physically impossible for one thing but OH MY GOD!

And that end-scene is probably going to be a running theme in this series, leading up to the climax, so I can't say it's a bad thing, more intriguing really.
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#82 - SuperHyperCrazy (08/23/2014) [-]
Yesterday my sister said, "Peter Capaldi is too old to be the doctor."
Even now I'm struggling to find the words to describe how I felt.
User avatar #86 to #82 - collateraldamageco (08/23/2014) [-]
when words won't do the trick use violence
User avatar #52 - illuminazi (08/23/2014) [-]
im really excited for the new doctor. as much as i loved david tennant, and matt smith just a little bit less, we need an older doctor again. the romance thing was getting real old real fast.
User avatar #60 to #52 - klick ONLINE (08/23/2014) [-]
i am in agreement.
I mean....just cause the new doctor is older doesn't mean he won't get any love'n. He's the doctor after all.
User avatar #77 to #52 - tricky (08/23/2014) [-]
Have you seen his first episode yet?? It was on tonight here in the UK land
User avatar #92 to #77 - illuminazi (08/23/2014) [-]
no stfu no spoilers i kill you
User avatar #13 - maternation (08/23/2014) [-]
BBC1 Livestream:

www.shadownet.biz/channels/uktv/bbc1.html

You're Welcome.
#29 to #13 - angelusprimus (08/23/2014) [-]
Is gay marriage legal yet, cos I love you and want to marry you.
User avatar #67 to #13 - crutos (08/23/2014) [-]
comparing to the tennant and smith regen episodes, this one was a bit meh in my opinion.
#24 to #13 - zynphius (08/23/2014) [-]
Is this like the actual tv channel just online? because thats amazing
User avatar #25 to #24 - maternation (08/23/2014) [-]
eeyup.
#33 to #25 - zynphius (08/23/2014) [-]
That. Was. Amazing
#26 to #25 - zynphius (08/23/2014) [-]
ITS STARTING NOW
User avatar #129 - wearethedead (08/24/2014) [-]
The episode was ******* awesome. Capaldi is gonna be good...
User avatar #102 - novels ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
Well to keep the 12 year old recently-pubescent boy demographic entertained, there was always that inter-species lesbian kiss. Which, in my honest opinion, was just added in there for the sake of it ( or for some other occult reason, I don't make the damn show. Hell, maybe one of the producers has a really specific fetish. ) and was thinly veiled with the excuse that they needed to do it to share oxygen. That or lizard women get horny at inappropriate times. I don't have a degree in Xeno studies.
User avatar #105 to #102 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
It was none of those things. It was something far worse. It was the same thing that permeated every scene in which Sherlizard Holmes was on the screen.

"Ha, ha! We're Lesbians, you know!"
User avatar #106 to #105 - novels ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
Had they mentioned it once, with little quips inbetween it would have worked. They messed it up. And though it hasn't ruined the show for me, far from it. If they keep it up then it's a slope downhill. Not a steep one, but some things get better, whilst others get worse.
User avatar #108 to #106 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
Eh... actually I'd say there has been a marked drop in quality in a lot of areas. This was one of the worst Dr. Who episodes I've ever seen. I mean... slapstick with Strax juxtaposed against HOT AIR BALLOON OF HUMAN SKIN!

I've already gone into detail about the issues of the episode in this thread so if you want to know more my posts are just a few places above yours.
User avatar #110 to #108 - novels ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
I think the wonder of Dr. Who though, is how much it's changed. When it started out it was never a show that was supposed to involve heavy themes or come under scrutiny. But as the show evolved, story began to play a bigger and bigger role, to the point where I didn't know what the **** was happening in terms of timeline with Matt Smith. And I believe that what's happening now is that they're trying to appeal to all their demographics and please everyone. And you can't please everyone.
User avatar #111 to #110 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
Nor should they. Evolution was the right term to use but Evolution works in regards to the survival of the fittest. I'd call this episode a random mutation that was severely unhelpful to the species and I just hope it's a one-off.
User avatar #112 to #111 - novels ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
As do I, I hold some hope for what's to come, and perhaps it was just to have a spectacular entrance to the new Dr. Maybe they've shown off all the quirks and are ready to continue as normal. Wouldn't be the first time I saw that, happens all the time.
User avatar #114 to #112 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
Like, for example, the introduction of Matt Smith? It was a pretty simple story that allowed us to focus on the characters and the themes that would characterise the Matt Smith era of the series, namely a lot of timey-wimey-cor-and-blimey and dangling plot-threads that get picked up by later episodes.

It was short, sweet, relatively simple, and introduced Smith in a really damn cool way. There was just that wonderful moment of "I'm the Doctor." where I felt "Yes, this IS the Doctor."

Next episode was some pretty grim source material but it worked because of the management of tone.

But with this episode I didn't get that "I'm the Doctor." moment. The episode feels as confused as the Doctor is and the direction given to Capaldi must have been... bizarre given the way he overacts throughout the episode. And not just him, the writing seemed really... quirky. And not in the traditional Doctor Who, "We're serious people but we've got our quirks." but in a really forced way.
User avatar #115 to #114 - novels ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
Perhaps that's what it's supposed to be. Perhaps you too are supposed to really connect with the Doctor as a whole and feel his confusion alongside him. Maybe the whole episode was made to feel as confusing as the Doctor is confused on purpose. But then again, I don't know.
User avatar #118 to #115 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
I'd not take that position in the argument myself. For one thing it is a -VERY- dangerous move to try and put your viewers into the mind-set of your characters, especially the mindset of confusion. If that was what they were trying to do they failed in magnificent fashion because I didn't leave with any sense of confusion towards the series. I left with a relative certainty in my head that somebody ****** up royally.

If you want to instil confusion in the audience you do so by withholding information and evocative camera angles and exclusionary tactics. None of that was used in the episode.

Either it was bad or they were trying to be confusing and failed therefore making it worse.
User avatar #123 to #118 - novels ONLINE (08/24/2014) [-]
We can only hope to see what the next episode entails. Or not see, because you know. It 's the 'most dangerous place in the whole universe damn son cliché' I hope for the sake of the show they pull it around.
#47 - dambusta (08/23/2014) [-]
seeya ******
User avatar #93 - ireallylikepotatoe (08/24/2014) [-]
I still don't know what to think of the episode. I don't hate the new doctor but I don't think the writing is that great, it hasn't been for a while.
User avatar #96 to #93 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
I can forgive the writing failures if the characters are decent but this episode doesn't really have that. Sherlizard Holmes has become Dominant Liz-bien and Strax has gone from being the badass alien potato-guy who can beat the pulp out of people because he likes it to "I'm the dumb one."

And let's not get started on the ******* TONE of the thing. Strax points a ******* GUN AT HIS HEAD?! WHAT?! A SONTARAN WHO WANTS TO COMMIT SUICIDE?! AND A BALOON MADE FROM HUMAN SKIN?! WHAT THE **** , MOFFAT?!

This was a really... bad... really, really bad way to open the series.
User avatar #100 to #96 - ireallylikepotatoe (08/24/2014) [-]
not to mention the CGI in it looks like it's jumped back a decade.

And apparently the story of this is 'LOL, IT'S A REMAKE OF WHEN THE DR WHO SERIES REBOOT WAS GOOD, ***** "

I'm sure there's a twist coming but the next episode looks exactly like eccleston's final two and it just feels like it's going to be really predictable.
User avatar #104 to #100 - snowshark (08/24/2014) [-]
Actually, the CGI is better this series than it was last. The Dr. Who CGI has never looked magnificent.

Anyway, moving on, no, that's not what this story is about. The story is actually an INCREDIBLY clever concept. It's spelled out for us when the Doctor is talking to the robot guy. He's replaced all of his parts so many times that nothing of who he was is left.

That's the Doctor. That's 'this' Doctor. He is so old and new and everything in-between by this point and the robots were used as a clever way to highlight this dilemma.

I'm not saying the story was well-made, mind you, it's just that the concept was a very good one. Don't be so quick to jump on the judgement. Even if the episode was bad there's method to this madness.

However, I do feel an uncomfortable amount of morbidity in the near-future of the series and I'm not a fan of that, frankly. I felt those thirty seconds of Matt Smith were more Doctor Who than thirty minutes of Capaldi and that's probably not Capaldi's fault, but with Smith I felt that he was in every way the doctor from the very first moment he appeared on-screen in his first episode.

He's crazy and cooky and unconcerned with the stupidities of the world. He is tangential and gets angry about things that only matter to him and he manages to be achingly vulnerable and yet effortlessly paternal at the same time, like a wounded dog that is trying to console a crying child.

I don't need the Doctor to be consistent. I don't need each actor to play him the same. But if you were to ask me to describe Capaldi's doctor from just this episode I'd say... he was a confused jackass... and nowhere in my understanding of the Doctor does the term 'Confused Jackass' define any part of the Doctor.

There are problems with what I saw today, but I'm willing to chalk that up to some mistake or other and give Capaldi the chance he has earned, but they had a chance to bowl me over and they wasted it.
#134 - anon (08/24/2014) [-]
ive like doctor who since the 9th doc, love him, tennant, and smith.
i'll likve the doctor regardless who plays him.
User avatar #128 - Accidentalninja (08/24/2014) [-]
In my opinion usually a 'real' doctor who fan won't just love the new doctor right away just cause "he's the doctor lol". It takes time for them to get into the role and for you to get over your expectations from the last doctor. I didn't like David Tennant or Matt Smith when they first became the doctor and then a few episodes in they grew on me and now I think they were both brilliant.
User avatar #74 - asasqw (08/23/2014) [-]
With people like that gone the Doctor Who Fandom will stop being so cancerous
#79 to #74 - anon (08/23/2014) [-]
>Fandoms
>Not being cancerous

What bizzaro internet are you from?
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