Sums it up pretty well.... . Jill wearing of mixed cloth Don' t tell others how to live if you can’? even follow your own beliefs Sums it up pretty well Jill wearing of mixed cloth Don' t tell others how to live if you can’? even follow your own beliefs
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#11 - I Am Monkey
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#493 to #11 - willisteal
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In my opinion it is Christianity that is the Edgy one.
#478 to #11 - voltism
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(11/25/2013) [-]
how the **** is this being edgy this is someone trying to make a point
#117 to #11 - brutusantony
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(11/25/2013) [-]
the joke....i don't get it
#138 to #117 - irishlawyer
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(11/25/2013) [-]
OP is edgy
#178 to #138 - I Am Monkey
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#132 to #117 - treefox ONLINE
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Edgeville is a town in Runescape. It used to be cluster ****** with player-killers restocking their items to kill other player-killers in the Wilderness. Nobody really goes there anymore except to use the bank and furnace.
#161 to #132 - contrary
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I see how thats what you thought the joke was, but no, its just used to call someone Edgy.. usually that image will have population: you on it. Its mainly just to reference edgyness and probably not much to do with runescape besides pleasing the few of us who actually played(play) it.
#247 to #161 - AZNRULEZ
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(11/25/2013) [-]
wrong, people only go there to chop down that ************* yew tree
#264 to #247 - brutusantony
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(11/25/2013) [-]
so ******* true
#423 to #161 - treefox ONLINE
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(11/25/2013) [-]
Oh wow. I can't believe I missed that.
#337 to #161 - widsquard
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(11/25/2013) [-]
Havn't played it in ages. Went back to the website yesterday. It's an absoloute *********** UI and its so hard to even navigate the bloody website.
#389 to #337 - rskamaka
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(11/25/2013) [-]
All about the old school game community dude
#433 to #132 - anon
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(11/25/2013) [-]
Genius, have you ever gone into the wilderness above Edgeville on worlds 2 or 3? It's ******* packed with Pkers especially at around 7PM
#545 to #433 - treefox ONLINE
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(11/26/2013) [-]
I meant all the time on all worlds.
#14 to #11 - lordlolland
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(11/24/2013) [-]
Population: OP
#69 - bubbzieee
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(11/25/2013) [-]
puts up post against intolerance   
   
calls others beliefs "******"
puts up post against intolerance

calls others beliefs "******"
#85 to #69 - YllekNayr
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Freedom of speech. It's not intolerant to speak of something. It is intolerant to move to try to make something illegal or take away someone's rights because you think your book says so.
#107 to #69 - xdeathspawnx
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someone's beliefs are ****** when they use them to justify their persecution or prejudice as right. People also used to say that slavery was not morally wrong because there was nothing in the bible that stated it was.
#424 to #69 - joilol
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(11/25/2013) [-]
A tolerant society is intolerant with those who are intolerant. It's a paradox.
#441 to #424 - nigeltheoutlaw
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I think it makes perfect sense. Why would you accept someone who wants to discriminate against others in your society for who they are?
#284 to #69 - sensitive
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if your belief is denying happiness to an entire group of people, guess what?

its a ****** ******* belief, and you're a ****** ******* person.
#407 to #69 - anon
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(11/25/2013) [-]
We atheists don't see intolerance of intolerance as intolerance.

Try to understand that
#445 to #69 - adamks
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You belief IS ****** if you think it requires you to interfere negatively with other people's lives. Period.
#464 to #69 - TexMex
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(11/25/2013) [-]
Oh so you mean that not allowing homosexuals to marry is a ********** belief?
#439 to #69 - nigeltheoutlaw
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(11/25/2013) [-]
If your beliefs encourage you to discriminate, then they are ******. I agree with OP.
#475 to #69 - icameheretotroll
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(11/25/2013) [-]
If you are forcing your beliefs into laws you are giving your beliefs a bad name
#141 to #69 - notafunnyguy ONLINE
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basically sums up everyone who wants people to tolerate their views on gay marriage but cant tolerate other peoples views on gay marriage
#243 to #141 - MrEman
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I only have an issue with people who ruin other peoples lives just because they don't believe in the same things they do. Go ahead and be a homophobe, I couldn't care less, but don't try to keep other people from being happy just because it doesn't line up with your beliefs.
#254 to #141 - slyve
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Pretty sure I'm gonna get **** for this, but the difference is that People that are against gay marriage are actively refusing other people the right to marry the person they love, while people that are pro gay marriage just want everyone to have the same rights. You can have your opinion about gays and how "wrong" it is, but you don't get to deny them rights you yourself enjoy just because YOU think it's "Icky" or disgusting.

If this difference is not obvious enough, try to imagine how you would feel if you were ridiculed, beaten, laughed at or threatened just for loving you girlfriend or wife. And people would deny you the right to marry her because THEY think it's disgusting. They think it's wrong, so obviously you don't get to marry. THEN you would fight for your rights as well.
#346 to #254 - guymandude
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(11/25/2013) [-]
I'd say the best comparison to make would be to compare it to a case where a dude is attracted to severely obese women - that way it would be easier to connect the "only have a problem with it becasue it grosses you out" point.
But yours already works out alright. no idea why you were thumbed down.
#379 to #141 - kanadetenshi
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“Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society... then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them... We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.”

- Karl Popper
#6 - szadek
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(11/24/2013) [-]
I'm not even Christian and i know that most of these don't actually apply to Christians because they are in the Old testament.
#27 to #6 - timmity
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but jesus said they do.
#41 to #27 - allseriousness ONLINE
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no he did not you complete retard!
no he did not you complete retard!
#88 to #41 - timmity
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yes he did, jesus said that the old testament means just as much as the new, but i cant be bothered searching through the bible for the exact passage
#105 to #88 - bluerangermartin
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Yeah but he was drunk and didn't think anyone was listening
#94 to #6 - drakonpunch
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The Old Testament is part of Christianity too. The ten commandments is in there and it's preached about in church all the time.
#250 to #94 - skypatrol
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The New Testament is how Jesus came, died for sins, and did away with the religious, legalistic crap that had clogged up Israel. Most of the moral issues remained.
#15 to #6 - habanaro
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I didn't realize the book of Luke and 1 Corinthians were in the Old Testament.
#17 to #15 - Vandeekree ONLINE
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(11/24/2013) [-]
Not those two, Christians believe both divorce and premarital sex are a sin. And while people don't protest divorce nearly as much as they used too, my parents VERY strong protest premarital sex, though only to me sense no one is making a law to support premarital sex.
#18 to #17 - habanaro
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I was being sarcastic


#26 to #6 - toensix
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The Old testament does apply to christians. That's why it's in the bible.
The Old testament does apply to christians. That's why it's in the bible.
#53 to #26 - szadek
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(11/25/2013) [-]
Except it doesn't because Jesus said those laws don't apply anymore because he set new laws.
#78 to #53 - anon
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When did he say that? Also in the New Testament Jesus says he hadn't come to abolish the Old Testament; only to add to it. Matthew 5:17
#248 to #78 - skypatrol
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Wow. Matthew 5:17 is talking about how Jesus came to fulfill the old testament biblical prophecies. That was in order to prove that he was who he said he was.
Not talking about the laws at all.
#239 to #78 - rockamekishiko
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(11/25/2013) [-]
he came to reform it
#524 to #26 - geebuss
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The Old Testament applies to us in a sense of getting to know our God and his mercy. We use it as **reference****** to see how he feels about certain situations, but the New Testament is there now, for us to know how to go about it.
#7 to #6 - Kennyalways ONLINE
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(11/24/2013) [-]
So is homosexuality, your point?
#16 to #7 - Vandeekree ONLINE
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New testament

Romans 1:26-27: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence [sic] of their error which was meet."
#347 to #16 - guymandude
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although, as apposed to the old testament line, that one doesn't seem to have a "this is extra gross" bit, nor does it have a "here's the punishment they get" bit.
#533 to #16 - Kennyalways ONLINE
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Thank you for being the only one who actually explains where in the new testament Sir
#440 to #16 - nigeltheoutlaw
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That doesn't seem to me that it's saying that homosex is wrong, just that it's icky.
#195 to #16 - predictablepeter
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And then there's this asshole...
#55 to #7 - simpleslingblade
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The point is that many of the Old Testament laws are particular to the culture and time that it was written which is extremely clear to anyone who has taken the time to study it instead of simply sitting at a computer congratulating their own intelligence.
The other point is that New Testament writers also enforce the idea that homosexuality is a detestable act; New Testament writers do not enforce those other laws because they were temporal, not universal.

tl;dr:
Historical-critical studies are important.
#84 to #7 - PenguinsOfMars
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While its true that the Old Testament prohibits it, the New Testament prohibits it as well while the New Testament doesn't say anything about the majority of the things in the post.
#154 to #84 - boomshire
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however, it only protests the actual act of gay sex, gays are allowed in te church and encouraged, but it is preferred not to perform the act, but you can always goto confession
#240 to #154 - skypatrol
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Read simpleslingblade 's post above.
The purpose of encouraging gays to attend church is to evangelize to them and try to get them to repent.
The bible also mentions in the New Testament that even if you 'desire it in your heart' then it's a sin.
Need to read it in full historical + greek context.
#520 to #240 - anon
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It also counts that desire when you look at porn or think about a girl you want to have sex with. The desire is the same. It is NOT a sin to be gay. It is a sin to act on that desire just like it would be a sin to commit premarital sex or adultery.

The reason for confession is to clear your mind of that desire so you don't act on it like a bad impulse and commit the actual sin.
#369 to #7 - anon
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Homosexuality is in the new testament as well.
#367 to #7 - anon
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Paul writes about homosexuality in the New Testament. That point
#151 to #7 - goldaugie
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Lots of people view Matthew 19:1-8 - talk about divorce - as also referencing homosexuality indirectly. Mentioned elsewhere in the new testament too
#92 to #7 - anon
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he is saying some still apply but others don't
#81 to #7 - anon
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...abnd the new testament. (See Romans and other books written by Paul)

AND there's the huge difference between ceremonial, civil, and moral law. All of which I doubt you're considering here.

So, your point?
#76 to #7 - jimthesquirrelking
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homosexuality is repeated in the new testament, not saying i believe it, just letting you know why people hold on to that one and not the others
#22 - sockswithsandals
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(11/24/2013) [-]
The ****** was kind of unecessary
#52 to #22 - earloflemondgrab
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Yeah I really liked this post until that part.
#205 to #52 - pkrbarmoviea
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I don't think he meant Christianity as a belief. I think he meant the beliefs in the post, which are, we should all agree, rather ******.
#206 to #205 - earloflemondgrab
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Ah okay. I wasn't sure what they meant by this.
#207 to #206 - pkrbarmoviea
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Well, that's what I think, or rather hope.
#286 to #22 - sensitive
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if your belief is denying happiness to an entire group of people, guess what?

its a ****** ******* belief, and you're a ****** ******* person.
#60 - davidteninch
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Good to see that OP doesn't know what the New Testament is.
#65 to #60 - ambiguous **User deleted account**
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The verse "a man shall not lay with another man as he does with a woman" and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah where many homosexuals and sexual deviants lived, were in the old testament. If Christians only follow the new testament, then they should follow the teachings of Jesus, and he never forbade homosexuality nor much of anything. His sole teaching was to love one another and take care of each other whether they be a king or a leper.
#102 to #65 - snood
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no, u dont read the Bible. Jesus defines marriage as between a man and a woman and if there is any sex outside of marriage it is a sin. this is all part of the new testament.
#112 to #102 - ambiguous **User deleted account**
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He may not have agreed with what they did, but he didn't condemn them. Sure he had his beliefs, but he never forced anyone to follow him. He gave them a choice of what they wanted to do. My point is that Christians shouldn't condemn the people they see as sinners. They can believe what they want, but it's not their place to condemn anyone.
#99 to #60 - godofcorndog ONLINE
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Just because there is a new testament, doesn't mean you can ignore the old one. They are both part of the same faith.
#146 to #99 - meganinja ONLINE
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the new testament cancels out the second one... The only people who should be using the New Testament for anything besides advice or context are the Jews.
#157 to #146 - godofcorndog ONLINE
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Really? Where does it say "Oh yeah, forget that Old Testament crap, this new one is the REAL thing." It may had been taken and drafted by Jewish origins, but it is still part of the faith.
#356 to #60 - funnaycraptwo
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(11/25/2013) [-]
1 Corinthians is still in the new testament...
#63 to #60 - lolfire
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(11/25/2013) [-]
And apparently Christians don't either.



Love your neighbor.
Not "love your straight neighbor".
#66 to #63 - davidteninch
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Just because I disagree with someone's choice doesn't mean I stop loving them.
Just because I disagree with someone's choice doesn't mean I stop loving them.
#67 to #66 - lolfire
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Well I dunno about you personally but for centuries homosexuality was punishable by death in Christian countries. (The buggery act in the UK for example)

Doesn't seem very loving. Although I will concede that Christianity has been catching up with the rest of society lately, especially with that new pope guy firing about the place.
#71 to #67 - anon
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So, how's being gay going for you in the middle east? Yeah, that's what I thought.
#72 to #71 - lolfire
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Yeah well the middle east is all kinds of ****** up.


And those dirty sand ****** ***** aren't worth saving.
#244 to #72 - rockamekishiko
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(11/25/2013) [-]
not only are you intolerant of religion but you are racist as **** too. You're not the right person to go on saying **** about other's beliefs
#252 to #63 - skypatrol
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*sigh* The bible talks about loving your neighbor unconditionally.
In historical, and greek context, he is saying
'love the person, but hate the sin that they do'
#538 to #252 - lolfire
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Yes I understand that.

But when a "sin" is the person that's where Christians go wrong.
#21 - ellwood
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(11/24/2013) [-]
yes, because calling somebody's beliefs ****** is definitely going to convince everyone that you're right and they're wrong. I agree with you, but i still think that was a dumbass thing to say.
#287 to #21 - sensitive
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if your belief is denying happiness to an entire group of people, guess what?

its a ****** ******* belief, and you're a ****** ******* person.
#432 to #287 - ellwood
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i'm not saying they're right. However, some actually believe they're helping. it's twisted and wrong, but they do. They think that if they partake in homosexuality, they'll spend an eternity in hellish torture. they honestly believe they're trying to save them. I believe they're wrong. However, there are two sides of understanding and i don't think either are flat out idiotic. Even if they were, calling them idiotic isn't going to change their opinion. In fact, it'd probably just anger them and make them push harder against it. I believe the way towards a new world is through understanding, but also through the challenging of ideas.
#77 - kloudianorici
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(11/25/2013) [-]
Let me explain something to all of you.
Yes the old testament says all of this is punishable.
Yes Jesus says that many of the Old Testament laws don't apply anymore.
He does however say that we must still follow the ten commandments.
Sexual immorality is one of the ten.
Homosexuality is considered by the Bible as immoral sexuality.
There are also lots of people who oppose premarital sex, they just don't go out and protest it because there are no laws being levied about it.
Thus people protest gay marriage because there are laws being levied that support it and they believe the Bible.
#111 to #77 - xdeathspawnx
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the new testament still says that divorce is wrong and should not be allowed, but nobody wants to make that illegal. It just shows that the real reason these people are protesting is because of their prejudice and hatred towards homosexuals, the bible is just what they use to justify it.
#123 to #111 - kloudianorici
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Falsity #!: Christians are actually morally obligated not to hate homosexuals, just to disagree with them.
Falsity #2: People indeed want to make divorce illegal, they just never show up on the news.
#134 to #123 - xdeathspawnx
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yes some people protest divorce, but not nearly as many as protest gay marriage. I understand that they should disagree with other people and not hate them, but the fact that many of the people protesting gay marriage have no problem with divorce (many of them probably have been divorced) shows a lot of people do not care about what certain parts of the bible say and only use it as an argument when it suits their needs. I myself am Christian, but I refuse to accept what the bible says as a legitimate argument unless the person arguing follows it in full.
#137 to #134 - kloudianorici
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Also, it has been fun having a reasoned argument with another intelligent individual. Thank you for the mental processing that you made me do. Always good to actually think hard about something once in a while.
#136 to #134 - kloudianorici
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The real fact of the matter is that there are so many "cultural christians" who just identify themselves as christians but don't even try to be christ-like. They end up ruining the reputation of real christians. The westboro baptist church is an example of this.
#145 to #136 - xdeathspawnx
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I completely agree. I think of it this way, the bible is a very archaic book written in a very different time and place from where we are now. Even the old testament was passed on by word of mouth for hundreds of years before being written down, so it can't be considered completely correct. instead of trying to decipher these books (which are not even in their original languages) to find out what is right and wrong, I think about what God and Jesus would want me to do if they were watching.

It sucks that there are people who use good things to justify doing wrong, but there will probably always be people who act that way in this world. The best we can do is focus on ourselves and try to lead by example.
#147 to #145 - kloudianorici
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Thank you for being a reasonable and well informed individual.  The world needs more people like you.  Continue your awesome commenting.
Thank you for being a reasonable and well informed individual. The world needs more people like you. Continue your awesome commenting.
#348 to #77 - anon
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(11/25/2013) [-]
When did J-man say that about the Old Testament laws? I thought he didn't want to change old laws
#446 to #77 - nigeltheoutlaw
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I have two questions since you seem to know what you are talking about:

1: Doesn't sodomy (any sexual acts that aren't vaginal sex) also fall under immoral sexuality? If so, why don't people protest that in addition since it's morally reprehensible according to Biblical law?

2: This brings me to a broader question: why nitpick against only gay marriage when there's other things in our society that are explicitly prohibited in the Bible? What makes gay marriage "more" bad than the other things?

Don't take these personally, I am just legitimately curious as for the answers.
#470 to #446 - tealcanaan
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In a lot of states sodomy is illegal, but they can't do anything if it's in your own home. They can however prevent gay marriage.
#471 to #470 - nigeltheoutlaw
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I wasn't asking about legality, I was asking about this from the viewpoint of this one guy.
#485 to #471 - kloudianorici
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The reason that there aren't people in the streets protesting blow jobs and anal sex is that these, while illegal by old testament law, are not things that we can control through laws today. Secondly,because in the Bible God states that there is no sin worse than any other sin, they are all equally evil, the protests against gay marriage are just happening because there are laws being levied in that direction and people are so integrated into the society that they don't realize that other things that they are doing are against leviticus' laws. Truthfully, I have not managed to read through all of leviticus myself, as that entire book is like reading an enormous legal document. Have I given you satisfying answers or would you like more?
#486 to #485 - nigeltheoutlaw
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No, that's adequate, thank you.
#100 to #77 - snood
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i'm glad to see people still trying to explain this on this site considering how little people want to listen.
#129 to #100 - kloudianorici
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(11/25/2013) [-]
Hey, if no one tries to explain things to people, then everyone on this site would be a bunch of idiots scrolling through funny photos.
Oh, wait a minute.
Sorry, forgot that that is what this site is.
You may resume your scrolling.
And yes, I am calling myself an idiot too.
#82 - feglol
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(11/25/2013) [-]
This is a ****** post. Just becuase people aren't protesting something doesn't mean they aren't following they're belief.
This is a ****** post. Just becuase people aren't protesting something doesn't mean they aren't following they're belief.
#467 to #82 - TexMex
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He's basically saying that if you try to deny people of their basic human rights and focus on just that thing, you're not doing it for your belief, you're doing it because you're an asshole.
#83 to #82 - feglol
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their*
#42 - sonoferin
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Wow literally everyone is protesting premarital sex
#149 - lamarisagoodname
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So you put up a picture of one rally and 5 other random photographs, not quite sure what this is supposed to prove other than how ignorant OP is
#156 to #149 - datassman ONLINE
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Whoa it's almost as if they were meant as allegorical examples
#163 to #156 - lamarisagoodname
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That's ridiculous, considering plenty of sermons advocate against homophobia and stable marriages. It's an inaccurate allegorical example