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strike back. . FEMI N ISM, TELL THE TRUTH! WHAT THEY SAY': ll Women get $ . 77 for men' s The average man spends lapi)(, more time at work. He' s tsl l tsl E ti

FEMI N ISM, TELL THE TRUTH!
WHAT THEY SAY':
ll Women get $ . 77 for men' s
The average man spends lapi)(, more time at work.
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Men choose the highest- paid specializations.
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Psychology Early Education Theology Human Services/ Social
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SEXIS; hf? "Y' DECIDE.

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#7 to #4 - anon (03/13/2015) [-]

"ok add that to the money 0.77*114%= 0.8778"

Doesn't work like that. If you work more hours than you need, you get paid more for these hours than you would get for regular hours, because it's out of the norm. Also, people that work overtime are more likely to get a raise.

and lastly "Who wants that ?, that should give him less money. body remove costs money. "
That's not a wanted outcome, but a risk. A risk the employee takes when making a difficult, dangerous job. And if an employee has to take that risk, the employer has to pay more, or no one will take the job.

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#14 to #10 - anon (03/13/2015) [-]

http: // [url deleted] .pdf

Just delete the spaces in the URL. Don't know if his numbers are based off of this, but it's a pretty clear image.

Also, a study won't tell you "these 14% difference in hours should give 23% more pay", because A) a study states probability of facts, not management decisions, and B) it's not the only (and by far not the main) factor (job specialization is the main factor)

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#15 to #14 - anon (03/13/2015) [-]

http:/ /mypage .iu .edu/~cha5/YoungjooChafiles/Cha_weeden .pdf

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#6 to #4 - anon (03/13/2015) [-]

"we are talking about the same job here. "

No, we're not. The 77 cent myth is based on a national average (what all men earn and what all women earn) and doesn't factor in specializations. This factor makes up about 80-90% of the difference

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#23 to #6 - klldarkness (03/14/2015) [-]

I read a very interesting study done, that compared two gas stations on the same street, about half a mile from eachother. Both opened about 2 months apart.

One was ran by a man, the other was ran by a woman.

The one ran by a man was open 18% more, on average. He had an equal amount of men, women, and people of color working for him.

The ran by a woman was 73% woman ran.

Prices at the woman's gas station were constantly 7% higher than items of the same name brand at the males.

The average employee hours at the males were 30+ a week, while the womans employees ran at about 22hrs average.

In the end, the study found that the woman made 71% of what the man ran, and it couldn't possibly have to do with the fact that she was a woman, as she had no boss. She paid herself. It was her own business practices, and decisions, that led to her making less than the mans.

If I can find a link to the study, I will post as a reply.

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#55 to #23 - compared (03/14/2015) [-]

Thanks for the mention, hope you are well.

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#11 to #8 - anon (03/13/2015) [-]

>Throws a study in the conversation

>Study totally contradicts what he says

>"Faggot"

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#16 to #13 - anon (03/13/2015) [-]

Look, I don't say that there is no gender-based difference between wages. It's just that it's not based (or at least not heavily based) on employer sexism. The main reasons for this difference go far deeper into our culture. Women choosing more "nurture and grooming" jobs and men choosing more "technology and high education" jobs. Women not doing overwork because they are usually responsible for home and hearth. There are reasons for that, and men are not really profiting off of the situation (Losing touch with the family, high divorce probability, stress levels etc.) as well. But the topic is way more complicated than feminists tend to make it out to be.

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#9 to #8 - anon (03/13/2015) [-]

"It is not possible to produce a reliable quantitative estimate of the aggregate portion of the raw gender
wage gap for which the explanatory factors that have been identified account. Nevertheless, it can
confidently be concluded that, collectively, those factors account for a major portion and, possibly,
almost all of the raw gender wage gap. "

Are you even able to read?

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#1 - eggsontoast (03/13/2015) [-]

8% more earned then men!? This is bull **** ! We're harassed at work on the street and now they make more?! Hell yeah sexism! **** . Just the other day i had a women tell me i should open my lags to see my "bowls of baby batter". ******* gross.

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#32 to #1 - endorphinsrage (03/14/2015) [-]

Baby Batter

Baby Batter

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#3 to #1 - anon (03/13/2015) [-]

Found the feminist

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#5 to #3 - anon (03/13/2015) [-]

Don't be a dumb ass.

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#2 to #1 - iolith [OP](03/13/2015) [-]

bowels of baby batter ******* lost it man

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#31 to #1 - whiskeyjacker (03/14/2015) [-]

>'bowls of baby batter'

>'bowls of baby batter'

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#19 - inuares (03/13/2015) [-]

Citation needed.

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#30 to #19 - manofparody (03/14/2015) [-]

www.funnyjunk.com/Strike+back/funny-pictures/5481699/17#17

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#54 to #30 - inuares (03/14/2015) [-]

Thank you.

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#21 - anon (03/14/2015) [-]

The U.S.A is an equal rights country at this point, there will be racism and sexism no matter how hard you try to fight, that's just how you are raised and decide to look at the world as an adult, but instead of bitching and moaning about how men get better paying jobs because your statistics clearly show how the system functions, apply your self become the newest members of those categories and exceed "men's" expectations, become president of companies or CEO's. Men did not become who they are just because it was handed on a silver platter, they usually work for it, same with all the other woman who fought before you.
My point is, NO MATTER WHO you are ONLY YOU, can change the views of people by applying your self and doing something.
Bitching online is not going to get you any where, Go to college, apply in to the highest field and become the richest woman, look at people today, you have Ellen DeGeneres, Opera, Whoopie Goldberg. all very influential people. but only because they applied them selves and did something.
This whole sexism thing is only 1 perspective to many different angles. don't take a side. take a look, and see what options there are.

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#28 - imofcnotharveydent (03/14/2015) [-]

don't women have a bigger push on them to do well in school, and at home?

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#35 to #28 - ThatsSoFunnyHeHe (03/14/2015) [-]

Then why are 60% of college students female?

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#36 to #35 - ThatsSoFunnyHeHe (03/14/2015) [-]

Wait **** I misread your post, I thought you said "women dont have a bigger push"

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#40 - kuchikirukia (03/14/2015) [-]

Ah, yes, every statistician simply divided earnings by number employed, and only a lone /pol/tard thought to ask whether we should be compensating by job type and hours worked.

God you guys are ******* morons.

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#47 to #40 - elenalkarnur ONLINE (03/14/2015) [-]

Read 'Why Men Earn More" by Warren Farrell. It's not a lone /pol/tard, libtard. As if that invalidates an objective truth anyways.

Galileo was alone (or almost alone) in thinking the earth went around the sun, not the other way, when over 99% of the earth's population didn't think so. It didn't mean it's not real.

Let me guess, you probably think religion are true and God is real because a lot of people think he is?

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#51 to #47 - kuchikirukia (03/14/2015) [-]

It's called hyperbole. The number of /pol/tards repeating the same fiction isn't pertinent. Pull out as many of them as you want. While you're at it, why don't you pile on global warming deniers who figure that scientists just forgot that the Sun warms the Earth, so if you factor THAT in then there's no warming! And you can go ahead and pull out Truthers who think that everyone is overlooking the melting point of steel as well.

Hey, Santa's real. Everyone just forgets he's invisible and moves really fast. Mommy and Daddy and Teacher didn't factor THAT into their calculations! Ha!

*sigh* If I wasn't so lazy and was a little more sociopathic I'd start a conservative blog. Feed the fear and ignorance, provide affiliate links to survivalist merchandise, put out a paid newsletter feeding their prejudices, and make a mint off their backs.

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#52 - uzzwick (03/14/2015) [-]

Whenever this topic comes into discussion, I just say

"Okay, so name one company/corporation that actually pays women less than men for doing the same job."

Now, I'm not incredibly knowledgeable when it comes to economics, but this is about as far you have to think to debunk this **** .

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#24 - Brass (03/14/2015) [-]

I feel like all this social justice stuff will be our generations equivalent of the early twentieth century's forced sterilization. We look back and say "the **** was wrong with us? That **** made no sense."

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#48 to #24 - kmichel (03/14/2015) [-]

Or the SJW's are our generation's hippies.

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#18 - anon (03/13/2015) [-]

Well, maybe if you let us into the higher paying jobs instead of being misogynistic neckbeards, we could earn as much as you. You won't even let us have the higher paying jobs. Also, men are just more likely to die because they always do stupid stuff in the workplace, while the women actually have brains. like, seriously, I don't even. How are you so stupid?

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#41 to #18 - phenact (03/14/2015) [-]

no one is stopping you from getting a education and a better job

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#34 to #18 - anon (03/14/2015) [-]

That's why there are so many female coal miners. It is a bad idea to allow your emotions to cloud your judgement, especially when it comes to cultural issues.

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#39 to #18 - basstromboneblast (03/14/2015) [-]

G8 B8 M8

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#17 - sladee ONLINE (03/13/2015) [-]

You give me no sourcers nor citations?

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#20 to #17 - anon (03/13/2015) [-]

Maybe because if you Google it you'll get 1 website that says there is a pay gap and 1000's that prove there isn't, it's like asking for a citation if grass is green

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#26 to #20 - anon (03/14/2015) [-]

If you google it you'll get 1 that says there isn't a wage gap, most sources admit to some wage gap existing.
It's like how you're color blind.

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#29 to #17 - manofparody (03/14/2015) [-]

It's extremely easy to find any of this information.

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#22 - anon (03/14/2015) [-]

I don't think anyone who argues that there is a pay gap is complaining about things like male politicians get more than female waitresses.
If you have different jobs then that's ******* obvious.
None have ever complained about the end sum either, because of course women take more time off and thus earn less overall.

The only people I've seen saying that there is a wage gap always argue that it's in exactly the same job with exactly the same hours. Stop changing situation of the argument.

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#33 to #22 - ninjaroo (03/14/2015) [-]

People argue that it's different pay for the same job with the same hours, while using end sum statistics.

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#37 to #22 - anon (03/14/2015) [-]

what would be obvious if it WAS giving women less money for the exact same job with the exact same hours. there wouldn't even be anything to debate, just show us the ******* records and boom sexism proven . but they aint do that **** . cause their aint nothin to show. cause that would be ******* stupid. so the "evidence" they do come up with is just like in the inforgraphic above, distorted as **** .

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#38 to #22 - anon (03/14/2015) [-]

show us then ***** , damn. cite your **** . sources and **** . just don't say **** .

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#57 - anon (05/07/2015) [-]

If women gets paid less...
Why don't we hire more women? Clearly, It's beneficial. Of course, this is assuming that It's not just BS.

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#46 - mrforte (03/14/2015) [-]

I ******* hate humanity...

None of these stats have anything to do with what they are trying to disprove

I ******* hate humanity...

None of these stats have anything to do with what they are trying to disprove

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#45 - loonquawl (03/14/2015) [-]

Couldn't the young, childless women out-earning young childless men be somewhat explained by their aging male bosses preferring young women over young men for standard young people jobs?
Sure, 1 sex is totally has the advantage in that situation, but the cause of it is the other sex. Humans are gonna act human no matter what the laws/regulations and whatever else says about it.

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#49 to #45 - gerfox (03/14/2015) [-]

Could also be explained by, at least where I come from, that men tend to take longer educations (although more women take education).

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#50 to #49 - loonquawl (03/14/2015) [-]

Here it seems to be women taking longer in schools, like going to community college for a couple years then going off to a 4 year, but still going into rather low paying fields with it like teaching. Most of the guys I knew opted for 2 years community college, than some kind of 2 year trade school.

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#43 - chenn (03/14/2015) [-]

Yeah, but the question is, do women consciously choose worse paying jobs or are these jobs paid worse because they're mainly occupied by women?
I think for example being a teacher is an important job too, hell, you can change the kids' approach to the subject, you can make them interested in it or hate it, depending on how good you are at your job, and this is even more important at elementary and high school, because that's the time kids decide what do they want to do later in life.
Sure, when it comes to jobs like cleaning ladies, of course you can't compare them to scientists or doctors, but I also think that some jobs are underpaid because "it's just women who work there"

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#44 to #43 - kmichel (03/14/2015) [-]

In a capitalist economy, you tend to earn more if you make more for your employer. If you're an engineer, you're expected to make at least your wage by working for various clients. If you do research at a national lab, you're expected to make between 1X and 3X of your salary in order to keep your job. If you're in business, you're expected to make many times your salary.

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#53 to #44 - chenn (03/14/2015) [-]

True enough. Also the problem with for example teachers (but also doctors in some cases, &c.) having ****** salaries compared to the amount of work they do is that they work for the state. Most state companies have no idea how to manage their money (and education has it even worse because it usually gets the least amount of money out of all sectors), while private companies usually do, because they're motivated not to go bankrupt. It's a factor I forgot to take into account, although I still think that there might be reasons why female dominated jobs are paid less other than these.

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#56 to #53 - compared (03/14/2015) [-]

Thanks for using a comparison, hope you are well.

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#42 - anon (03/14/2015) [-]

why should it matter? when will we finally stop seeing 'you and me', but 'us'.

with no more 'you get more than me, you work less but get more money, youre so dumb but earn more'. how about 'do you have enough money to eat for the rest of the week? will you donate to my cause?'

cmon people. share the love

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#25 - anon (03/14/2015) [-]

A wage gap does exist.
For babyboomers it's about 84% and for Gen X it's 93%.
Basically when Millennials are getting ready to retire there won't be a wage gap.

All of this accounts for things such as working less, taking time off for kids, and how women go for lower paying jobs.

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#27 to #25 - crusaderzav (03/14/2015) [-]

So, there is no wage gap. For the same job a man and a woman will be paid the same. You can't say "it's not fair that this man earns $100k a year when this woman only earns $30k a year" if they're in different jobs. That's not a wage gap, that's their life choices impacting their earnings.

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