Star Wars logic. . How does this work'? Can' t hit anything and gets killed by Ebooks. Highly skilled and can even kill ojedi.. This is easily explainable, after order 66 with the purge of the jedi clones were mass produced to an even greater extent using lesser genetic material and were
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User avatar #52 - heartlessrobot (11/15/2013) [-]
The Clone soldiers were clones of what was arguably the greatest bounty hunter in star wars history, who slaughtered Jedi with his bare hands when he was a teenager. Stormtroopers were random schmucks pull off the streets and given a gun.
User avatar #53 to #52 - mechaemperor (11/15/2013) [-]
Yep, pretty much.
User avatar #55 to #52 - mcsloth (11/15/2013) [-]
only the 501st legion remains purely clone
#59 to #55 - trevanman (11/15/2013) [-]
501st was the most badass of them all.
didn't part of them go down with the first Death Star?
I have no idea. I do know I played their story in SW: Battlefront II
User avatar #62 to #59 - masdercheef (11/15/2013) [-]
They were transferred off the Death Star just before it was attacked. Ironically, they were supposed to be transferred off as punishment for allowing Rebel prisoners to escape- in the end, though, their punishment was one of the greatest gifts ever given to them.
#63 to #62 - trevanman (11/15/2013) [-]
even the Emperor and Vader couldn't argue with their badassness
User avatar #60 to #59 - mcsloth (11/15/2013) [-]
no they were reassigned when the jedi escaped in the deathstar level.
#61 to #60 - trevanman (11/15/2013) [-]
they were reassigned when them Jedi blew it up. even before that.
they were supposed to kick ass in other parts of the galaxy.
In the end, I had to fight on Hoth, Alderaan (?), whatever the planet of the Ewoks was and capture Leias ship.
and then it ended. with Imperial rule all over the galaxy.
I seriously didn't like it when they got their "new and shiny armor" halfway through the game.
User avatar #64 to #61 - mcsloth (11/15/2013) [-]
didn't really care about the armor as long as i could get the award rifle. that thing kicked ass. mowed straight through everything. just looked it up it was "the embarrassment of the prison break." which is where they stole the plans pre-episode 4 that Leia had on the Tantive IV
#65 to #64 - trevanman (11/15/2013) [-]
award rifle?
dude. I played with cheats.
I couldn't get past Naboo without them.
could you even get it with the cheats activated?
#150 to #65 - anon (11/16/2013) [-]
What also helped and is something I didn't figure out until like years of owning it is that you can get ally troops to follow you in a small squad by pressing up on the control pad when looking at them. Helps you get those tougher missions done.
#240 to #150 - trevanman (11/16/2013) [-]
never thought of that.
thanks
#139 to #65 - anon (11/16/2013) [-]
Man I played that game so much that I could make it through entire battles with no deaths.
Only fps I was ever good at. You should try again without cheats.
#239 to #139 - trevanman (11/16/2013) [-]
I did.
until I kept dying in Naboo
User avatar #67 to #65 - mcsloth (11/15/2013) [-]
12 kills with a normal rifle. it gave instant kills to body-shots.
never played with cheats so i wouldn't know. didn't even know there were any.
#68 to #67 - trevanman (11/15/2013) [-]
I just googled all cheats for the PS2 one day. to get it over with
User avatar #69 to #68 - mcsloth (11/15/2013) [-]
never even thought about it. once you were Legendary on the medals you got the rewards at the start of a level so it made it very easy.
#2 - whiteasian (11/15/2013) [-]
This is easily explainable, after order 66 with the purge of the jedi clones were mass produced to an even greater extent using lesser genetic material and were grown at even faster rates making for a much more sub-standard unit. These clones not only had less potential but less training do in a memory flash manner also sub-par. This was done for two main resons to lower costs of the empire to spend more on say, palpatine's palace on naboo and to have a much larger army to better maintain control over a galactic empire. Take the 501st vader's personal unit their made up of orginal clones which is why they get their **** done like taking leia's ship with minimal losses or taking down rogues squadron or hoth.
#10 to #2 - anon (11/15/2013) [-]
I believe it's stated that after the Clone Wars, new troops are actually recruited, as opposed to cloned. The 501st Legion is the only Clone regiment after the Clone wars, and as a result, the men recruited from these backwater worlds are not quite as good.
User avatar #16 to #2 - angelious (11/15/2013) [-]
actually i heared that the storm trooppers are highly accurate and trained.most of the time they just had a reason to not kill the main heroes OR it was plotshielding
User avatar #37 to #2 - gilliam (11/15/2013) [-]
I'm not to hot on all this lore, but i seem to remember htat stormtroopers are not clones, but recruitees, or am i wrong?
#40 to #37 - whiteasian (11/15/2013) [-]
The officers were recruits all troops were clones
#42 to #2 - anon (11/15/2013) [-]
Keep in mind too that the stormtroopers armor is cheaper and while containing alot of fancy equipment' less protective.
User avatar #57 to #2 - vikingfaen (11/15/2013) [-]
Dis ***** knows his **** . Respect.
User avatar #78 to #2 - psykojet (11/15/2013) [-]
Didn't they even bring in other people's DNA besides Jango Fett?
User avatar #131 to #2 - gwenisghey (11/16/2013) [-]
you forgot the recruitment to the empire
User avatar #165 to #2 - hawaiianhappysauce (11/16/2013) [-]
Dude... that would explain a lot.
#174 to #2 - belshir (11/16/2013) [-]
**belshir rolled a random image posted in comment #392 at Read desc too ** They also began letting conscripts in, quote from 501'st commander Cody: "we never got used to the new guys" implying that alongside substandard cloning was also the hungry and those unable to work anywhere else signing up
User avatar #18 to #2 - robdabob ONLINE (11/15/2013) [-]
TL;DR They cloned the clones making them less and less perfect as "Jango Fett" originally was. (Very skillful, that is.)
#185 to #2 - furiousmarshmellow (11/16/2013) [-]
You're a nerd.   
   
   
 I like that.
You're a nerd.


I like that.
#241 to #185 - whiteasian (11/16/2013) [-]
thanks i even tried to keep it minimal lol
#3 to #2 - dashgamer (11/15/2013) [-]
Or maybe, just maybe, it was convenient for the plotline that the heroes not get shot.
#6 to #3 - xxmemesxx (11/15/2013) [-]
or

or

you're a hyper-brony faggot whose opinion doesn't matter
User avatar #7 to #6 - dashgamer (11/15/2013) [-]
wow mastir trol
#194 to #7 - ffinfinity (11/16/2013) [-]
This guy is trolling hard, yesterday he was arguing with me how left handed people are genetically inferior.
User avatar #8 to #7 - xxmemesxx (11/15/2013) [-]
>thinking I'm joking about you

lol wow
#4 to #3 - whiteasian (11/15/2013) [-]
Ya but stormtroopers sucked so bad in comparison it had to be explained away
User avatar #5 to #4 - dashgamer (11/15/2013) [-]
Yeah, I think it would be cheaper for the Empire to outsource their military backing to pre-existing organizations instead of continuing the cloning program.
**** in the Star Wars universe was nice and simple before Lucas had to **** it up with the prequels. =[
User avatar #136 to #2 - akkere ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
They never kept the clones shortly after Order 66 actually; the (supposed) 501st was pretty much the last unit of Imperial clones that was accepted. After the whole transition process of Palpatine going from ********* Chancellor to god-tier Emperor, he had the cloning facilities on Kamino destroyed and the Kaminoans that headed the project massacred to prevent them from using it against him.
That's why in the movies, you actually see (for the troopers that are exposed) some of the stormtroopers are just normal, different people each time. There's still technically a valid explanation, because now you're no longer dealing with uniform soldiers in both body and mind, and just regular footmen (Lucas also explained the reason why Stormtrooper armor is so much more bulkier than the slender and evasive Clone trooper armor was to provide more protection from fatal wounds, being that these were actual people and they no longer had a limitless supply of clones).
User avatar #189 to #136 - vigilum ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
^This, pretty much.
#77 to #2 - corsairjoshua ONLINE (11/15/2013) [-]
Storm troopers are goblins   
   
Clone Troopers are Uruk-Hai.    
   
Got it
Storm troopers are goblins

Clone Troopers are Uruk-Hai.

Got it
#25 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (11/15/2013) [-]
Just throwing this in here, but I really loved the idea that they took inspiration of the clones' armor from the Mandalorian design. Well, duh, Jango Fett was Mandalorian, obviously, but still, it's a nice deviation.

Don't like the looks of the Phase II armor that much, though (the one from the content, it's a half-way form between Phase I and the Stormtrooper armor; besides the changes in the helmet, you also see more armor plates being used for Phase II armor than for bigger and fewer ones found on Phase I)

Star Wars geek, standing by!
#39 to #25 - RonnyCreed (11/15/2013) [-]
Well Jango designed the armor, and the clone's training regimen, personally. He had the intent to spread his and his culture's legacy into a new form of mandalorian. He personally trained the ARC units and even gave the clones the one thing that truely made them and extension of clan Fett: a slightly modified version of the ancient mando'a song "Vode An" which can be heard in the menus for Republic Commando. The other bit of legacy was Boba, the first clone ever produced of his DNA. He was chosen because first, as manda'lor he led his clan on a contract on a planet whose name escapes me. The black watch sabotaged and framed them. when Jango returned to his camp he had only just finished warning his men about the black watch's treachery, when jedi shuttles landed outside the camp. Led by Jedi Master Dooku, and his padawan Komari Vosa, they informed the mandalorians of their charges. Jango ordered his men to fire. at some point in the fight jango found himself unarmed but still killed several jedi on his own. after the battle his clan was gone. he lived a life of a bounty hunter after that, when he received a bounty from a Lord Tyrannus for Komari Vosa. Enter the Bounty Hunter video game for PS2 and GameCube. after proving, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Jango could kill jedi, Tyrannus gave Jango the opportunity to be the origin for the clone army. Because the clones would need to be able to murder the jedi under order 66. I studied the Mandalorians as part of a college project last year.
<--- Mythosaur skull FTW
User avatar #66 to #25 - KayRed (11/15/2013) [-]
I personally like the Phase II better, for one thing there is more variation there, so if you don't like the standard Phase II, there are still badass Phase II armors out there. And Phase I just feels cartoonish to me, I mean **** , what the **** is up with the fin! I really hate that ******* fin!.
User avatar #251 to #25 - genralraam (11/03/2014) [-]
hey how has the last year been?
User avatar #79 to #36 - tiopico (11/15/2013) [-]
Sev was best clone
User avatar #128 to #36 - clonedcommando (11/16/2013) [-]
I am literally named after this god of a game. I know we we never get a sequel but a man can dream.
#153 to #36 - anon (11/16/2013) [-]
and now I get feels out of nowhere from a game I havent played in years
User avatar #54 to #36 - mechaemperor (11/15/2013) [-]
We. Need. More.

Screw Lucasarts for not promoting this series more.
#71 to #54 - lazersharkheads (11/15/2013) [-]
mfw Lucasarts will never make video games again
User avatar #72 to #71 - mechaemperor (11/15/2013) [-]
True dat
**** Disney
User avatar #199 to #71 - yusay (11/16/2013) [-]
This is good. Without LucasArts in charge of Star Wars anymore we have some great developers working on new Star Wars games, like DICE.
#120 to #71 - reaperriley ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
Honestly.... the only good game that lucaarts released in my opinion was republic commando.
User avatar #138 to #120 - taternutz (11/16/2013) [-]
You're not really familiar with Lucas Arts releases are you
User avatar #160 to #138 - reaperriley ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
I know LucasArts PUBLISHED a lot of games, but they didn't really make many good games.
#168 to #160 - taternutz (11/16/2013) [-]
They developed Full Throttle, one of my favorite adventure games of all time, along with a whole slew of other great titles.
User avatar #176 to #168 - reaperriley ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
I never played Full Throttle, not my thing anyways.

This is my opinion though. I didn't like a lot of the games lucas arts actually made. But people tend to praise them a lot for games they just published.

Regardless, Republic Commando was one of my favorite games ever.
#178 to #176 - taternutz (11/16/2013) [-]
Fair enough, I never gave republic commando a chance because I saw it just after I experienced "Brute Force" (which I found to be just...awful) and thought it'd be more of the same of that.
User avatar #181 to #178 - reaperriley ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
I actually liked brute force.... but then again it was a game that I played with my dad and it was my intro to the xbox.
User avatar #184 to #181 - taternutz (11/16/2013) [-]
I might've had a better experience with it, but I played it with my brother.
My brother is not the best person in the world to play games with.

On a side note, my intro to the original Xbox was Jet Set Radio Future, which just might be my favorite game in existence.
User avatar #188 to #184 - reaperriley ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
Yeah having a crappy co-op partner can really ruin the game. But for us we had our play styles and such. I used Tex and Brutus and he used the other two. It allowed us to support each other and do it well.
User avatar #133 to #120 - thisistheguy (11/16/2013) [-]
Never played Battlefront or Knights of the Old Republic?
User avatar #159 to #133 - reaperriley ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
LucasArts didn't make either of those game series. They were just publishers. Bioware made Knights of the Old Republic and Pandemic made Battlefront.
User avatar #44 to #36 - jubnik ONLINE (11/15/2013) [-]
man those clones were bobba fett level badasses
#56 to #36 - carlonord (11/15/2013) [-]
"I'll just wait here boss, you guys can go find him."

But seriously, where the hell is that sequel, that game was glorious!
#89 to #56 - anon (11/15/2013) [-]
**** THAT let's try another pitiful attempt at making a star wars mmo!

Or even better!More games that involve force using marry sues!(why the **** wasn't there a witch hunt in the star wars universe yet is beyond me.Those stupid ******* started most wars in the galaxy.)
User avatar #228 to #56 - mlpokeyuan ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
I liked it, but I could never make it past the level where you have to blow up the building within the time frame.
I'm so bad at this game, I just want to finish and enjoy it.
#175 to #56 - anon (11/16/2013) [-]
That's why I plan on throwing rocks with 'RC2' scrawled on them at EA's headquarters.
#244 to #19 - anon (11/17/2013) [-]
Oh lookie a fan of an overpraised game.
User avatar #245 to #244 - serotonin (11/17/2013) [-]
game?
#26 to #20 - nomadfourohthree (11/15/2013) [-]
Heretics.. everywhere!
Heretics.. everywhere!
User avatar #48 - syrenthra ONLINE (11/15/2013) [-]
Okay there are 3 people that were storm troopers
1) humans that joined up
2) clones from the republic
3) clones that palpatine had order to be made at a rushed rate at a different location

#3 clones were told they were raised on Kamino but they were grown on another planet where it was dry and never rained, this is seen in the republic commando series in the book Order 66 when the commandos were talking to regular troops and they discussed their "childhood"
#88 to #48 - Tormound (11/15/2013) [-]
Wasn't Karen Traviss's republic commando series rendered non-canon? I do hope so cause she's just bad at writing sci fi it seems. Unfortunately, she has moved to Halo and GOD 			*******		 DAMN IT, IT PISSES ME OFF.
Wasn't Karen Traviss's republic commando series rendered non-canon? I do hope so cause she's just bad at writing sci fi it seems. Unfortunately, she has moved to Halo and GOD ******* DAMN IT, IT PISSES ME OFF.
User avatar #95 to #88 - syrenthra ONLINE (11/15/2013) [-]
1)I didn't think she was a bad writer, either I am too nice with my opinion or you are too strict, which is open for debate
2)The only thing that could be considered non-cannon is the 3 million strong clone army, I don't see how anything else she wrote would interfere with the rest of the universe
3) I now want to read these new Halo books as I want to see what happens after onyx
#112 to #95 - Tormound (11/16/2013) [-]
Yeah sorry there for that rant....
Just had to release that rage you know...
User avatar #121 to #112 - syrenthra ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
okay then
User avatar #110 to #95 - Tormound (11/16/2013) [-]
For Halo, her novel might as well be renamed to Crucifying Halsey. Cause for some reason she seems to hate Halsey and tries to make her the devil in disguise. She makes it seem like that taking the children and replacing them with clones was all done by Halsey and has ONI agents think that was crossing the line(you seeing this **** ?!) and act like they didn't even know despite the fact the entire process of the spartan project had to be approved by the ONI director and such and there's the retarded piece where and ONI agent just released highly classified information for no reason other than to make Halsey look bad.

She sees canon as "optional" when she's writing a book and I think she even said on record that she DOES NOT read up on characters when she's writing books....
User avatar #130 to #110 - blokrokker (11/16/2013) [-]
Wait wait wait. I'm not totally up to date with Halo lore (at all) but aren't ONI agents nearly sociopathic in their dealings? Like, they will kill, steal, and burn their way to getting what's best for humanity? What the hell?
User avatar #132 to #130 - Tormound (11/16/2013) [-]
Exactly... She made the sociopathic moral-less people condemn Halsey for kidnapping children despite knowing from the get go and APPROVING of said operations.
User avatar #137 to #132 - blokrokker (11/16/2013) [-]
Yeah, the whole Spartan program was all on ONI, right? Like, that was their thing?
User avatar #183 to #137 - Tormound (11/16/2013) [-]
Not quite sure you mean by all on ONI since I think Halsey revived the program but ONI had full knowledge on what Halsey was doing for the program.
User avatar #190 to #183 - blokrokker (11/16/2013) [-]
Again, I'm not really up to speed on Halo lore. I read one novel a few years ago, and it was pretty explicit that ONI had a huge hand in it. But it was a few years ago, before Halo 3 probably, before ODST definitely, so I could very well be wrong. The point stands though, ONI is the last organization that would at all protest Halsey's methods.
User avatar #195 to #190 - Tormound (11/16/2013) [-]
Oh thats still very true ONI had a HUGE part in it. One person cant kidnap over 100 children replace them with clones then train the children to be super soldiers all by themselves. I think your confusion is coming from Traviss' bad writing.
#107 to #95 - Tormound (11/16/2013) [-]
Little tidbits:   
   
She made Mando killing Jedis a common place when it was quite very, very rare before she started writing in SW.   
   
Beskar, is only lightsaber resistant and not lightsaber proof, and it's way too dense to be used as armor.   
   
&quot;She has a Mandalorian completely school Jaina Sword of the Jedi Solo repeatedly to the point where all she could do was curl into a ball and cry. Jaina the-veteran-of-the-vong-war Solo didn't know how to fight an enemy wearing lightsaber resistant armor and who couldn't be felt in the Force. Jaina the-person-who-actually- wrote-the-book-on-specifically-fighting-and-defeating -enemies-who-are-wearing-lightsaber-resistant -armor-and-who-can't-be-felt-in-the-force Solo.&quot; - ProfessorWalsh
Little tidbits:

She made Mando killing Jedis a common place when it was quite very, very rare before she started writing in SW.

Beskar, is only lightsaber resistant and not lightsaber proof, and it's way too dense to be used as armor.

"She has a Mandalorian completely school Jaina Sword of the Jedi Solo repeatedly to the point where all she could do was curl into a ball and cry. Jaina the-veteran-of-the-vong-war Solo didn't know how to fight an enemy wearing lightsaber resistant armor and who couldn't be felt in the Force. Jaina the-person-who-actually- wrote-the-book-on-specifically-fighting-and-defeating -enemies-who-are-wearing-lightsaber-resistant -armor-and-who-can't-be-felt-in-the-force Solo." - ProfessorWalsh
User avatar #106 to #95 - Tormound (11/16/2013) [-]
Her mary-sue mandalorians were annoying, and she seemed to have real hate boner against jedi with outright false information to make them look bad. For example: a clone teaching a padawan on how to use a lightsaber.... Etain, a jedi, broke down in tears thinking the order will take her force sensitive child, when in all the years the Jedi Order was in existence they never stole children from their parents. She killed Mara Jade Skywalker, utterly spitting in the face of Zahn, when she knew he was working on a new Mara Jade novel, she killed Mara even though the rest of the LotF team was completely against it.
User avatar #91 to #48 - nyuORlucy (11/15/2013) [-]
i gotta up that book again
#51 - jackassalope (11/15/2013) [-]
Just doing this from memory, so the details might be a bit off, but there are several reasons for this.

The original close troopers were all an exact copy of Jango Fett, with their training supervised by Jango Fett. The cloning was done by the planet Kamino, who had technology for it far ahead of anyone else. After the clone wars, a conflict with Kamino using Jango Fett clones on both sides made the empire wary of having every soldier be the same individual, so they started cloning many different recruits without the benefit of Kamino's technology or Jango Fett's training.

So they don't have the same quality of genetic stock, training, or durability that the original clones do; save Vader's 501st battalion who are still purely Jango Fett clones with the best training possible.

That being said, star wars is full of ******** retroactive explanations of things that were originally put in just because they were cool. This is likely one of those cases.
#74 - germantes (11/15/2013) [-]
It's because Anakin was never a good leader to his troopers, because he never was a father to Luke.
#119 to #74 - sytheris (11/16/2013) [-]
What does that have to do with the skill of the troopers?
User avatar #179 to #74 - jamesisnotreal (11/16/2013) [-]
Or, be like Darth Vader, and instead of ducking and rolling away from high intensity laser beams that would kill a normal person, block them with the force and your hands!
User avatar #86 - spawnconnery ONLINE (11/15/2013) [-]
Stormtroopers are regular people. The Clones were cloned from Jango Fett, a highly trained killer.
User avatar #101 to #86 - nsali (11/15/2013) [-]
true story
User avatar #126 - xxfalconxx (11/16/2013) [-]
Because the clones were factory-made perfect soldiers with impeccable aim and battle tactics. The cloning factories were like the 1st place the rebellion destroyed, so your standard stormtrooper is just a random drafted conscript from a random planet. Besides, the good security guards were at places that would actually see action, not the Death Star. Who in the universe would actually be dumb enough to go inside the Death Star and launch an assault on a space station the size of a small moon?
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#167 to #126 - biohazar (11/16/2013) [-]
****		 yes
**** yes
#172 to #167 - biohazar (11/16/2013) [-]
but the empire it self destroy the kamino Clone facilities (Factory sound to cold for the badass clones) ,because a rebelion made by the kamino and remaining clones(who kaminoins training to server and be loyal to kamino and no the republic/empire) , and in those time the empire still have Veteran clones in their lines , and guess ho were the front strike line &quot;Clones&quot; , so they have to kill they brothers aside boba feet ho now the facilities leading the regular storm troopers . i funking hate the empire .
but the empire it self destroy the kamino Clone facilities (Factory sound to cold for the badass clones) ,because a rebelion made by the kamino and remaining clones(who kaminoins training to server and be loyal to kamino and no the republic/empire) , and in those time the empire still have Veteran clones in their lines , and guess ho were the front strike line "Clones" , so they have to kill they brothers aside boba feet ho now the facilities leading the regular storm troopers . i funking hate the empire .
#147 to #126 - bluelight (11/16/2013) [-]
very true good sir
User avatar #129 - warzon (11/16/2013) [-]
Storm troopers: Hired/conscripted.
Clone troopers: Made from badass.
User avatar #33 - enemyoftrn (11/15/2013) [-]
Easy, clone troopers(CT) were trained by the Mandalorian, known to start a war with the Old Republic just to goad the Jedi into fighting them. (And, this is just an RPG mechanic, but in KOTOR 2, the character Mandalore(Mandalorian Chief) has a character trait named, Mandalorian Mind or something like that, it gave the character uber resistance against Sith and Jedi mind power.)
Stormtrooper(ST), has two version, i; Mass cloning, these ones were not trained by Mandalorian merc, just ordinary soldiers training another soldiers. ii; Mass recruiting; basically ordinary citizen of the Empire become soldiers. Like i), they were trained by not the best of the business.
#38 to #33 - cristalx ONLINE (11/15/2013) [-]
Not all clone troopers were trained by mandalorians, only RC squads, Alpha Arcs and the Null Arcs. And the stromtroopers had old clone troopers (Vaders fist for example), their own clones who grew up in only 1-2 years, and the mass recruited citizens.
User avatar #58 to #38 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (11/15/2013) [-]
AFAIK the only mandalorian left alive was Jango Fett. And, of course, his son/clone, Boba.
User avatar #246 to #58 - afaik (11/18/2013) [-]
Wasn't it the other way around? First Boba, THEN Jango?
User avatar #247 to #246 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (11/18/2013) [-]
what do you mean?
User avatar #248 to #247 - afaik (11/19/2013) [-]
Wasn't Boba the adult and Jango the kid?
User avatar #249 to #248 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (11/19/2013) [-]
Ummm... no!
User avatar #250 to #249 - afaik (11/19/2013) [-]
Fair nuff. Memory's a bit dull, ta's all :L
User avatar #9 - atrumaliger (11/15/2013) [-]
Degeneration of the clones?
User avatar #100 - nsali (11/15/2013) [-]
the highly skilled (clone trooper), were just that clones of jango fett, one of the best bounty hunters in the galaxy....
the other (storm trooper) is the equivalent of an enlistedmen , trained to be sure, but not to the likes of clone troopers

lets not forget the fact that against most "average" folks the storm troopers went up against wouldnt stand a chance, but what you see in the movies are then going up against are main characters (PCs) so their skill lvls just dont match
User avatar #105 to #100 - kaput (11/16/2013) [-]
aww yeah, was wrintting the same thing,

and to speak in Rpg terms to explain something is always Win haha.
I use MMO terms to talk about things too
#111 to #100 - sytheris (11/16/2013) [-]
Indeed. Most Stormtroopers weren't even Clones, with the exception of the 501st.

Also: those troopers got the jump on their Jedi. Ambushed and outgunned them. If ten Stormtroopers surrounded a Jedi in an area they couldn't flee from and unloaded, that Jedi would die.
User avatar #151 to #111 - nsali (11/16/2013) [-]
yeah, its sounds like op doesnt know his **** and is talking out his ass, i even saw a comment from him refering to both set of helmets and clone trooper helmets
#155 to #151 - sytheris (11/16/2013) [-]
Eh, no hate for being misinformed.
#99 - darthan (11/15/2013) [-]
In the EU it explains that the original clone troopers were trained in 10 years (also explained in Episode II) and as time went on before the Clone Wars ended Palpatine started to introduce Clones created in 1 year.
This is why they are horrible shots, because they had less time to become expert shots like the original clone troopers.

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User avatar #49 - dafiltafish (11/15/2013) [-]
After the clone wars military service became an option for imperial citizens, forcing the quality of troops to decline (i guess).
User avatar #177 - formidableguy (11/16/2013) [-]
Clones from the clone wars were taken from the template of Jango Fett, incredibly skilled their training process was designed by him to get the best results, of a high quality army.

Storm troopers are taken from several templates of mediocre soldiers of fortune, after the clone rebellion on Kamino the Emperor realised the problem of one highly trained mass produced soldier, if one comes to a conclusion the high probability is that the rest will arrive at the same conclusion, when the newer, less indoctrinated troops heard of order 66 they revolted, and almost destroyed the cloning facility, meaning the Emperor would lose his ability to mass produce an army and make clone shells that he could in habit if he were to die.

Also Storm troopers were also supplemented with non clones, they acted as the local police force on the Imperial controlled planet, creating an occupation force from the same people that lived there, essentially a self occupying force, they kept each other in line,
User avatar #117 - zapgod (11/16/2013) [-]
the clones eventually died or retired early due to accelerated aging and now the empire hired anybody to be in their army. so the highly trained clones are no more
#87 - niggerdickbutttwo (11/15/2013) [-]
Because the Clone Troopers were highly skilled warriors that spent all of their live's raining for combat whereas Storm Troopers we recruited and had far less training than the Clone Troopers.
User avatar #70 - rockmanfan (11/15/2013) [-]
cloning obviously causes mental retardation.
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