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cosmicswagmstr [OP](09/08/2015) [+] (1 reply)
Thank you everyone for the thumbs, here's a WebM on me~
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distortedflare ONLINE (09/08/2015) [-] Why didn't the box man just shoot that little poofs ass?
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drtrousersnake (09/08/2015) [-] because if you kill ocelot you lose because it causes a time paradox.
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vorarephilia 
ONLINE (09/07/2015) [-] When you really get down to it, Kojima would be far more comfortable in a directing chair or writing anime. In fact he went to college to be a director, and most of his family and friends encouraged him to be a director. And if you pay close attention to the hype around these games, the story is most praised, not the gameplay itself. I know more about the characters than I do about what you actually DO in the games.
biggest evidence for this is in metal gear solid 4's 27 minute long cutscene, which is in a part of the game had 71 minutes of cutscenes. Not even kidding. They hold world records for being so long. 71 minutes of dialogue can be broken roughly into 3.5 episodes of anime. Considering a single season of this hypothetical Metal Gear Anime would be 26 episodes, that is PLENTY of room for kojima to stretch his legs. Now imagine if it was as popular as One Piece. hundreds of episodes of story for him to exposition the **** out of for years to come.
"Kinda sad really that most people have the attention span of gnats." - some asshole on IGN.
ONLINE (09/07/2015) [-] 
biggest evidence for this is in metal gear solid 4's 27 minute long cutscene, which is in a part of the game had 71 minutes of cutscenes. Not even kidding. They hold world records for being so long. 71 minutes of dialogue can be broken roughly into 3.5 episodes of anime. Considering a single season of this hypothetical Metal Gear Anime would be 26 episodes, that is PLENTY of room for kojima to stretch his legs. Now imagine if it was as popular as One Piece. hundreds of episodes of story for him to exposition the **** out of for years to come.
"Kinda sad really that most people have the attention span of gnats." - some asshole on IGN.
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indecisivejew (09/08/2015) [-] I'll have you know that the gameplay in most metal gear games is phenominal. I appreciate the story, but I wouldn't give a **** about any of it if it weren't tied to some of the best and most interesting stealth mechanics in the genre. The level of detail in the gameplay for each of his games is seriously mind boggling.
Just because you hear more about story than you do gameplay doesn't mean its not great. I replay the first three games yearly and skip all cutscenes when I do so, because that **** is fun as **** .
Just because you hear more about story than you do gameplay doesn't mean its not great. I replay the first three games yearly and skip all cutscenes when I do so, because that **** is fun as **** .
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Johnsfer (09/08/2015) [-] Not really, the gameplay has always been praised. There's a reason people praise MGS3 as the best in the entire franchise, because at that point, it had the best gameplay. Guards actually heard your footsteps even if you weren't on a platform that made loud noise when you stepped on it. People saw you from not just a cone of vision 15 feet in front of them. Not to mention the other improvements that would stick like different outfits, camouflage, deeper CQC and finding information through interrogation.
I actually think they reached a high point with MGSV in terms of gameplay, the 3rd person mechanics are amazing, on the level of something like a Gears Of War and what I'd probably call an Industry Standard. No longer is the game balanced around different difficulties, something I think MGS1/2/3 suffered from was Extreme being reduced down to cheesy strategies and not real skill when it came to beating bosses. Tengu room anyone? It is still a game so of course people won't see you from a certain distance away even in broad daylight because it would probably be too frustrating to have to crawl around an outpost just to remain undetected even 200m away.
I actually think they reached a high point with MGSV in terms of gameplay, the 3rd person mechanics are amazing, on the level of something like a Gears Of War and what I'd probably call an Industry Standard. No longer is the game balanced around different difficulties, something I think MGS1/2/3 suffered from was Extreme being reduced down to cheesy strategies and not real skill when it came to beating bosses. Tengu room anyone? It is still a game so of course people won't see you from a certain distance away even in broad daylight because it would probably be too frustrating to have to crawl around an outpost just to remain undetected even 200m away.
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killjoyus (09/08/2015) [-] While you are right and the story, writing, and presentation are the stars of the show, metal gear has always received praise and high marks for its gameplay. If for no other reason then at each and every installment it basically redefined the genre of "tactical espionage action" that it had created, a genre that while small has affected the FPS world heavily.
like the story is the forefront, but the games are massive innovators which deserve merit
like the story is the forefront, but the games are massive innovators which deserve merit
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vorarephilia ONLINE (09/08/2015) [-] I still haven't definitively had someone tell me for sure, but on the off chance you know: Did the first MGS game have audible footsteps? It seems no one can remember and neither can I.
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RabbidRabbits (09/08/2015) [-] MGS1 definitely had audible footsteps but most of the time enemies could only hear your steps if you stepped on specific things.
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vorarephilia ONLINE (09/08/2015) [-] but it takes more than 2 months to code an engine. so they were likely in development at the same time.
So I suppose they were tied on the who did it first thing on a technicality.
So I suppose they were tied on the who did it first thing on a technicality.
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vorarephilia ONLINE (09/08/2015) [-] killjoyus is saying yes, you are saying no. I am beginning to think MGS has some sort of mind altering properties.
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twilightdusk (09/08/2015) [-]
I never played the original, I based saying no on the video I had linked that involves a soldier in the snow following Snake's footsteps, but not hearing Snake run up directly behind him.
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vorarephilia ONLINE (09/08/2015) [-] you know what? **** it all. I'm gonna see if I can get it to run on windows 10 and find out for myself.
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twilightdusk (09/08/2015) [-]
Its a multi-disk game apparently and that can be annoying but it shouldn't be too hard to get a PS1 emulator set up at this point.
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vorarephilia ONLINE (09/08/2015) [-] I thought there was a PC release? ah well. I'll figure it out tomorrow.
I'm going to put forward a similar proposal to killjoy, and recommend you give thief gold a try. Kinda like game swapping back when we were kids only less swapping and no need to return it ever.
I'm going to put forward a similar proposal to killjoy, and recommend you give thief gold a try. Kinda like game swapping back when we were kids only less swapping and no need to return it ever.
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killjoyus (09/08/2015) [-] either way, MGS 1 created a lot more for the genre besides that. note i haven't played the first thief game but in MGS 1 you can hide enemy bodies in lockers, hide in lockers yourself and be found if enemies are in alert in the room, follow snakes footprints, and can react to gunshot noises
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vorarephilia ONLINE (09/08/2015) [-] Thief did all of that except you hiding in lockers and footsteps. you had to hide in shadows (as did the bodies), and almost the entire game took place in buildings so following footsteps would be kinda pointless. ( in thief's defense, there are never gold cups to steal at military bases.)
I think the easiest way to end this peacefully is for me to say that thief was not action oriented at all. MGS and Thief are opposite ends of the sneaky spectrum. Thief was super sneaky, MGS was shooty sneaky. Personally, I prefer the super sneaky aspect. It's a bit like a puzzle.
also I'm going to try MGS 1 tomorrow. (turns out it is carried on abandonware websites). find out definitively if there is footstep sounds or not. maybe you should do the opposite and play Thief gold. Think of it like game swapping with your neighbor back in the ye olde days before the internet.
I think the easiest way to end this peacefully is for me to say that thief was not action oriented at all. MGS and Thief are opposite ends of the sneaky spectrum. Thief was super sneaky, MGS was shooty sneaky. Personally, I prefer the super sneaky aspect. It's a bit like a puzzle.
also I'm going to try MGS 1 tomorrow. (turns out it is carried on abandonware websites). find out definitively if there is footstep sounds or not. maybe you should do the opposite and play Thief gold. Think of it like game swapping with your neighbor back in the ye olde days before the internet.
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twilightdusk (09/08/2015) [-]
>>#30 I stand corrected, though I'd like some evidence if you wouldn't mind providing it killjoyus
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killjoyus (09/08/2015) [-] sure, here is a clip with snakes footsteps being audible. youtu.be/WpG9XIfFkE0?t=1h13m8s
while it doesn't show anyone reacting, i can confirm as i played the game 4 days ago in preparation for 5
while it doesn't show anyone reacting, i can confirm as i played the game 4 days ago in preparation for 5
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twilightdusk (09/08/2015) [-]
I was pretty sure the point wasn't that his footsteps made a noise, but that enemies would react to it, the clip I had before shows his footsteps making noise in the snow, but an enemy failing to react to that. Do snow soldiers specifically not hear footsteps then?
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genmatthew (09/08/2015) [-] See, that's why I love mgs5 so much. Hideo finally got the equation perfect. With the open world design of the game, there's not as much of a need for a crazy amount of cutscenes. When there there are cutscenes, hideo plays me like a damn fiddle
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commanderbunbun (09/07/2015) [-] i think ocelot is just a fan of westerns. that would also explain the cowboy boots, even though he never rode a horse in mgs3
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epicanadian (09/09/2015) [-] It is the best game series in my opinion, as unrealistic and out of this world it gets at times the story and gameplay are just amazing.
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epicanadian (09/09/2015) [-] neither can I, didnt even get half way into it but the whole cutting system is pretty cool but once Metal Gear Online comes out next month even more of my time is going into MGS 5.
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affix (09/07/2015) [-] Good haircut, maintained and sharp clothes. Takes care of his body.
No autism here, only glory.
No autism here, only glory.
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technobanana (09/08/2015) [-] Wanna know a cool fact about this scene?
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The scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark as shot for the film was dramatically shortened; the original script intended Indy to fight the swordsman with a lengthy choreography and usage of his whip. However, Harrison Ford along with most of the crew were suffering from dysentery, and could not wear their trousers for more than a few minutes. Ford then suggested they "just shoot the ****** ". Steven Spielberg agreed, resulting in the biggest laugh of the film and one of its most memorable sequences.
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The scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark as shot for the film was dramatically shortened; the original script intended Indy to fight the swordsman with a lengthy choreography and usage of his whip. However, Harrison Ford along with most of the crew were suffering from dysentery, and could not wear their trousers for more than a few minutes. Ford then suggested they "just shoot the ****** ". Steven Spielberg agreed, resulting in the biggest laugh of the film and one of its most memorable sequences.
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Ulmer (09/08/2015) [-] Jesus christ I wanted snake to shoot him so ******* bad during that whole charade.
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jokervsbatsy (09/08/2015) [-] I just finished this game (on emulator btw) and I have to say
this guy goes from "complete ******* bitch" to "best character in the series" just like that
and right after the credits we are informed that he double-crossed literally EVERYONE in the game
I was amazed
Thank mr Kojima
this guy goes from "complete ******* bitch" to "best character in the series" just like that
and right after the credits we are informed that he double-crossed literally EVERYONE in the game
I was amazed
Thank mr Kojima
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (09/08/2015) [-] It was kind've easy to figure out that some **** like that would go down in Snake Eater, though.
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jokervsbatsy (09/08/2015) [-] Well **** me I thought I was the only one who wanted to play this game 10 years after its release
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motherfuckingkenji (09/08/2015) [-] "Ocelots are proud creatures"
Proceeds to make the most unmanly sound ever made by a male video game character.
Proceeds to make the most unmanly sound ever made by a male video game character.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (09/08/2015) [-] >Implying that Ocelot isn't the second ballsiest characters in the MGS Series, considering that he was doing all these tricks in front of mother ******* Big Boss and did not give a single **** .
Ocelot's one badass ************ , and you need to remember that.
Ocelot's one badass ************ , and you need to remember that.
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barakakaka (09/08/2015) [-] Not only that but he is the person that played everyone literally like a damn fiddle.
Naked Snake? Check
Eva? Check
Liquid Snake? Check
Solidus Snake? Check
Solid Snake? Check
The Patriots? Check
That guy managed to pull a quadruple backstab.
Naked Snake? Check
Eva? Check
Liquid Snake? Check
Solidus Snake? Check
Solid Snake? Check
The Patriots? Check
That guy managed to pull a quadruple backstab.
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tenaciouslee ONLINE (09/08/2015) [-] Quadruple? More like sextuple, he backstabbed six people. But at once, he pulled a triple-backstab (Eva, the Patriots and Naked Snake)
He's the best damned triple agent the world has ever seen.
He's the best damned triple agent the world has ever seen.
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noseses (09/08/2015) [-] He even put it in vackwards just like in the game. 10/10 would make dumb finger points again.
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hexenisalive (09/07/2015) [-] **hexenisalive used "*roll picture*"**
**hexenisalive rolled image**Wow Tom Cruse has some neat gun juggilng skills
**hexenisalive rolled image**Wow Tom Cruse has some neat gun juggilng skills
