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#11 - mondprinzessin ONLINE
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there are too many words in the comments
#140 to #11 - dyllygaf
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I like you, I'll use short words here   
   
 Not sure why this gif was in my "lol" folder   
   
also unrelated
I like you, I'll use short words here

Not sure why this gif was in my "lol" folder

also unrelated
#167 to #11 - mayormilkman
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And your comment was just #11...
#14 to #11 - eddymolly
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Lets break up all this talk then
Lets break up all this talk then
#238 to #14 - yaybacon
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#103 to #11 - perdition
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#13 to #11 - drachma ONLINE
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mfw scrolling past the comments
mfw scrolling past the comments
#189 to #13 - mondprinzessin ONLINE
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hue
this made me laugh somethin fierce
#118 - kellogkiller
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But cancer isn't a choice...
#145 to #118 - thasmackdown **User deleted account**
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pshh, only if you are a casual.

#4 - kaboozle123
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bad analogy. i mean you get it but if you look at what he said it doesn't work. you choose to believe in a religion or not. you don't choose to get cancer.

a better way to put it would be "just because i hate republican ideals doesn't mean i hate republicans" and even that is a bit lame of an analogy to be honest but it's still better.

AND BEFORE THE RELIGION ******** STARTS! don't give a **** what you believe in it's how you treat people, whether we die and go to heaven, just stay in the ground, or are reincarnated, whatever the hell you believe absolutely does not matter nor will it change the fact the you are or are not a piece of ****. everyone in their core knows what's right and wrong or at the very least when they're ******* someone over. you don't need a book to tell you that, and that it's bad. treat everyone right and fairly, don't **** on other people's day, and be a decent ******* person. other people don't believe in your religion and that's fine, if you believe in a fair and just god then he should judge them on their actions anyway

as a side note i watched "John dies at the end" last night, decent movie and was wondering how the book is. any one wanna give me a review?
#28 to #4 - strikingeight
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Except for Westboro, **** those guys.
#176 to #4 - ninjaspartan
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>you don't chose to get cancer

>smoking


Yeah, I think the ends justify the means here. I can hate people with cancer if I want to. You're not my mother.
#1 - whatugawkinat
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But people with cancer didn't put it upon themselves to have it. There are people that believe certain things, and people that act upon those beliefs in a very negative way. We should dislike those people.
#16 to #1 - toensix
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#21 to #1 - anon
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lots of people just believe what they are taught as children, ignorance is the true enemy
#90 to #1 - nuful
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>smoking
you said it yourself. hate them because of their actions which may be caused by their religion, but not for their religion itself.
#168 to #1 - ninjaspartan
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And here I was thinking that the majority of athiest might not actually be pretentious assholes...
#10 - infinitereaper
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brb gonna go sacrifice a jehovas witness for the glory of Einstien to start off the research party where we will resurrect Nikola Tesla and Darwin and make them fight to the death through beaker joisting after which we will proceed to bathe in the tears of graduate students writing formal requests for grant money.

stop posting this cancerous ****
#55 - unncommon
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"Let's just disrespect people and then insult them when they take offense to it and call them all assholes."   
Don't compare religion to 'cancer' or else you're no better than the members of people with the opposite belief than you that think that you're a cancer.   
In reality to only thing that would be a "cancer" in this situation is the narrow-mindedness of individuals thinking that they're superior than another person.  In which case both arguments have cancer.
"Let's just disrespect people and then insult them when they take offense to it and call them all assholes."
Don't compare religion to 'cancer' or else you're no better than the members of people with the opposite belief than you that think that you're a cancer.
In reality to only thing that would be a "cancer" in this situation is the narrow-mindedness of individuals thinking that they're superior than another person. In which case both arguments have cancer.
#57 to #55 - demandsgayversion
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To be fair, more people have died from religious reasons than from cancer
#59 to #57 - unncommon
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To be fair each year 7.6 million people die from cancer and furthermore the global number of deaths by cancer is projected to increase 80% by 2030. So next time you try to talk **** at least cite your sources, bitch.
www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/resources/features/WorldCancerDay/
#64 to #59 - demandsgayversion
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You do realize that's nothing compared to the historic toll of deaths caused by religion, right? Almost every genocide. The Crusades. Plenty of massacres.
#69 to #64 - unncommon
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If you're referring the murder of religious people by others intolerant of their religion (note: not one religion thinking they're superior than another e.g. Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin), then yeah. That's probable.
But to insinuate that religion is more devastating or even just as devastating as cancer is ******* asinine. In ten years 76 million people would have died from cancer (not including the inflation of the percentage), while countless religious organizations would have sent an incredible amount of money to the funding of research and support of their families and selves. Yeah, religion sounds pretty horrible, right?
Or maybe you wanna talk about the extremists of the religions? You know, the 'out of all religions maybe 1% are extremists' conversation?
#70 to #69 - demandsgayversion
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Sure, the extremists are a tiny percentage, but they're still millions strong. The good don't outweigh the bad when the bad murder people.

Now the good religious people; those are just good people. The bad religious people, a lot of them do their bad **** because their religion tells them to. It's harder to overcome an evil nature than a good one.
#71 to #70 - unncommon
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You're seriously so ******* dense it's not even funny.
Saying that such a minuscule amount of a group of people represents the entirety of the people. That's honestly like saying that the prison population of America represents the actions of the entire human race.
Great going.
#80 to #71 - anon
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Found the retard.

Religion is silly and pointless. Giving money towards research doesn't absolve religious ideology of it's flawed nature. In fact giving money towards research can be done independent of whether somebody is religious or not. I'm an atheist and I've donated. By your logic, atheists are awesome.
#74 to #71 - demandsgayversion
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Billions of good religious people: no change in personality from religion

Millions of bad religious people: murderers and rapists and who knows what else, because god told them to

Prognosis: religion=more bad than good
#82 to #74 - kousei ONLINE
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#101 to #82 - dwarfman
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Interesting supporting information: You're a minority on the outside, you'd be a minority on the inside. Pick up your fedora and get out.
#112 to #101 - kousei ONLINE
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religions.pewforum.org/reports

16.1% of national population is unaffiliated. even if we only count up the atheists and agnostic and ignore those that simply do not affiliate themselves to a particular religion, we still see 4%. Now, assuming all is equal and religion has absolutely no effect on it we should see the atheist prison population at a approximately 4%. so why then is it not even 1%? Now, kindly take your underdeveloped brain to another page, for you have no worthwhile information for me to gain.
#115 to #112 - dwarfman
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Link me a study, link me something that is not run by bias assbags like you. Not hard to find. I could find a link to a site with a well written article stating lizardmen rule the world. Folks like you are why atheists are hated, if you're belief are truly correct, you must carry yourself in a better manner, and thus be WORTHY of them. The theists have forgotten that, doesn't excuse your disgusting attitude. Now take your fedora and shove it up your ass.
#120 to #115 - kousei ONLINE
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I'm sorry, I thought I did well in linking two perfectly fine articles one speaking on the percentage of religious affiliations in US prisons, and another speaking on religious affiliations in the US as a whole. To assume it is biased just because you do not agree with what it states is, well to be frank, boorish. The very pig-headed intolerance I despise.
#126 to #120 - dwarfman
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I assume everything is bias. If they disclose their sources, and backers I am more willing to trust it. I don't take religious documents at face battle, I won't take a paper on a controversial issue at face value.
#128 to #126 - kousei ONLINE
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I see, however the law of averages would state that bias would normally fall in favor of the largest percentage of population. Therefore, any bias is likely to fall in favor of the religious since they make up a larger portion of the population.
#130 to #128 - dwarfman
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The real flaw in your argument is correlation vs. causation. Saying religion influences crime is like saying vaccines cause autism **** you Jenny McCarthy.
#141 to #130 - kousei ONLINE
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Well the thing with that is, when all else is assumed equal, correlation becomes causation. I fully realize we cannot actually assume all else is equal but then again correlation is often at least a factor, thus still making it causation
#144 to #141 - dwarfman
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My statistics professor would hit you upside the head with a ruler for that. Well at least the first one, she was nuts.
#148 to #144 - kousei ONLINE
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Though I will grant you a reinforcement to your point on correlation and causation in the form of simple logic. Those likely to turn to religion are the poor, downtrodden, and the like. Those that need to believe in something greater to continue. Those that tend to leave religion behind are those that do not need that faith. This could easily explain the difference between within the prison system.
#158 to #148 - dwarfman
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Atheism amongst serial killers comes from their inability to conform to society. So it is a common trait, but not present in all of them obviously. As we're a mostly religious society they will be the opposite. Same would hold true if atheism was dominate, more would be theists.
#163 to #158 - kousei ONLINE
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An interesting point, though I fail to see the relevance, I cannot deny the reason behind it.
#152 to #148 - dwarfman
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I would agree if we're talking in a medieval sense, but the world has evolved. Mao and Stalin used communism to corral the poor in the same manner. Look at the first world: Atheism/Theism is present in all economic levels. And if I was to use that logic I'd mention the atheist serial killers.
#157 to #152 - kousei ONLINE
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I may have been wrong calling the end. This in no way means there aren't bad atheists or good theists. Only that those in the lower rungs of society tend to need something to believe in. clearly criminals will tend to be among those lower rungs and would need to support themselves by illegal methods, so the correlation between religion and crime is formed and necessity is a fine causation to criminal behavior. This explains the correlation between religion and crime.
#79 to #71 - kousei ONLINE
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Pardon me but intolerance of faith is a largely religious concept. One faith saying another is wrong, the mass of people who have no religion don't care what your religion is. All it took to start the crusades was one person as big a zealot as you. I have encountered multiple people in multiple city that are only at your level of extremism (which i imagine you consider to be rather low) Tell me, how many genocides have been committed by non-religious persons? How many atheists and agnostics stand the corner yelling "god isn't real" and insult those that disagree? I can promise you good sir, many fewer than any single religion. By the way, how many different religions are there?
#98 to #79 - kombee
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This is copied from comment number #8:
"Famous Atheists of the 20th Century with Massive Death tolls in the name of their Beliefs:
Mao Zedong
Joseph Stalin
Pol Pot
Benito Mussolini
Than Shwe
Kim John II

These men have caused much heart ache to the world. Before you say "BUT DWARFMAN THEY DIDN'T DO IT IN THE NAME OF ATHEISM!" The only real religiously motivated mass kills you can cite are: Cults (Crazies), Hitler (Political), or the Crusades (Political again Broski). You can't judge others under different parameters than yourself. Atheism is nothing special, doesn't add to detract from humanity, like religion."

Bottom line, there are plenty of atheist people doing bad things, as well as there are religious. You can't say believing ina religion will automatically make you worse.
#99 to #98 - dwarfman
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You I like.
#107 to #99 - kombee
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I'm reading some of the other comments you've written and I really like what I read. It's comments like that I strive to find in comment sections, especially now with how much oppostion there's been recently against people of different religious background/color on fj.
#110 to #107 - dwarfman
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There is only one good: Knowledge, and one evil: Ignorance. Anyone who lies to support their cause is wrong, anyone who speaks out of ignorance is wrong. I believe in a higher power but I will debate any theist if they're douchebags. It's up to us to regulate ourselves, which is why I take offense to atheist pricks speaking on matters they do not understand. If they have researched various faiths and present a good argument  Not link random **** from leviticus saying: HURR DURR LOOK HO STUPIT U R HURRRRRRRRRRRR  I'll respect their choice. They go after theists or claim to be better than theists I'll fight them on it.
There is only one good: Knowledge, and one evil: Ignorance. Anyone who lies to support their cause is wrong, anyone who speaks out of ignorance is wrong. I believe in a higher power but I will debate any theist if they're douchebags. It's up to us to regulate ourselves, which is why I take offense to atheist pricks speaking on matters they do not understand. If they have researched various faiths and present a good argument Not link random **** from leviticus saying: HURR DURR LOOK HO STUPIT U R HURRRRRRRRRRRR I'll respect their choice. They go after theists or claim to be better than theists I'll fight them on it.
#114 to #110 - kombee
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That's what I want to here! Keep at it, it's people like you we need on fj or in general really. Open mindedness and the ability to question oneself before you question others is something great indeed.
That's what I want to here! Keep at it, it's people like you we need on fj or in general really. Open mindedness and the ability to question oneself before you question others is something great indeed.
#117 to #114 - dwarfman
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Your beliefs need to be worthy of YOU first, and if that's the case you'll be judged based on the company you keep. Thus those that share you beliefs need to be held to that same standard. It's why those atheist cunts are hated! Most (Not all by any means) treat competing ideals like child's logic, and spit on their faiths (Which in themselves are largely cultural), then act offended when they're lashed out upon. It's ******* wrong.
#136 to #117 - kombee
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Indeed, I agree. I guess we can hope and fight for the cause that either of the ignorant groups (wether religious or not) will understand this.
#138 to #136 - dwarfman
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Human nature says otherwise, but all of our history has been conquering our nature hasn't it?
#159 to #138 - kombee
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Yep, I do think so. History-books and classes in general have a profound way to seem to highlight a lot of the more ignorant human beings, or atlest highlighting their actions (like genocide and the likes) the way I see it. However I do believe people in general are being more and more tolerant, knowledge-seeking and open-minded thereby conquering their nature. But, if not more then atleast equally. I can't be cartain though, since I can't really look inside every human (or judge them fairly if I could). If there's something that's concerning to me regarding ignorance in this day and age though, it's that it seems that for many countries the important decisions are generally made by lesser-informed or just outright ignorant people (US congress being a notable example). This has happened before with autocracies and the like, but I can't stop feeling that this time it's much more impactfull and destructive to the general people than it ever was before.
#160 to #159 - dwarfman
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It's only more impactful because you're actually experiencing it! You're right though: There's nothing new under the sun, everything that's happening has already happened. I'm saying we need to turn to our past to find the answers on almost all matters.
#161 to #160 - kombee
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True, if I was a peasant in the 16 hundreds essentialy working to fatten up my "lord" I'd feel much worse than now. You're right, we need to learn from our mistakes, lest them be renewed.
#85 to #79 - unncommon
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I'm hardly a Zealot, I support Gay Rights, constantly question whether God is real, and haven't went to Church in a couple years. It's just ******* moronic to call people of faith a "cancer" or more dangerous then cancer. Considering that my own sister is in remission after being devastated by cancer maybe you can see how I take personal offense to it.
#105 to #85 - dwarfman
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Internet atheists are worthless human beings. They joined the fad for attention, and some die hards won't let go even now that it is fading.
#88 to #85 - kousei ONLINE
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Alright, yet you missed the whole point of the post only to go on a religious rant. It was simply to say "thinking a hate someone who has something because i hate what he has is ridiculous." When making comparisons extremes are needed to truly show the ridiculousness of the matter. However, scarcely is it meant to claim that one thing is akin to another. "(a) to (b) is like (c) to (d)" isn't saying "(a) = (c)" but more saying "(a-b) = (c-d)"
#111 to #88 - unncommon
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You know what, maybe I did go about proving my point. But you guys did a tremendous job of proving one that I never even intended to make. There's one person -- who believes in a religion -- being told that religion is more dangerous than cancer after saying that people hating each other on both sides of the argument is the true "cancer". Now I don't hate agnostics or atheists -- hell, most of my friends are atheist and there's a number of my family that are agnostic -- but how can you even attempt to say the theists are intolerant people while you yourself are being intolerant of them for no other reason than the fact that they're a theist?
The reason why I was mad at that other asshole isn't because he's an anti-theist, personally I don't give a **** about his beliefs or disbelief's, but my point remains: You can't compare religion to cancer. Religion generally tells of peace and coexistence (Jesus, Buddha, Gandhi, etc.), and while a small amount of people don't "practice what they preach" when it comes to religion, that doesn't mean that there isn't a tremendous amount of good that comes out of religion.
The perfect example of this is during the "Amish Schoolhouse Shooting". Where one man went ******* psycho after the death of his daughter went and shot (execution-style) 10 Amish School girls he did this to "get back at god" (a.k.a. ******* insane). Immediately after the man committed suicide and the community heard about it they all gathered together and forgave this man and condoned the wife and mother of this guy for their loss of a son/husband.
#116 to #111 - kousei ONLINE
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I apologize if i have misrepresented myself. My goal was not to say that religion is a strictly bad concept but merely a dangerous one. Also I in no way believe it worse or even comparable to cancer, I merely wished to point out misinterpretations and inaccurate facts.
#131 to #116 - unncommon
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I also apologize for presenting myself as a "religious zealot" or something of the matter.
#133 to #131 - kousei ONLINE
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it is quite alright, this is still turning out to be a rather entertaining debate.
#119 to #116 - dwarfman
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How you carry yourself is more important than your message in all occurrences.
#124 to #119 - kousei ONLINE
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I apologize, but it is hard to properly carry myself through such a muddled issue, surely you understand this considering your introduction to me having scarcely an ounce of proper discourse.
#129 to #124 - dwarfman
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I can understand as far less understanding sods have started debates with me on this. So yes my blood's boiling, and I am less civil.
#132 to #129 - kousei ONLINE
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As previously noted I had no intention of attacking religion. I only meant to stress the truths of the matter, as you'll notice my initiation was merely pointing out a flaw in his statement.
#134 to #132 - dwarfman
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It's not the best place to debate the matter, sickens me that prick comedian is allowed to spew his ********.
#143 to #134 - kousei ONLINE
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an opinion you are permitted, but I feel this quote right here should not be taken as an offense against religion. it is merely comparing the difference between people with religion and religion to the difference between people with cancer and cancer.
#146 to #143 - dwarfman
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He doesn't have the best history on the matter. Being an asshole isn't cool.
#151 to #146 - kousei ONLINE
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true or not doesn't matter. I think this debate has come to it's completion, i thank you for your insights and wish you all the best in dealing with the idiots and zealots on my side of this fence.
#264 to #55 - anon
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Ricky Gervais have never called a religious person an asshole, as far as I know atleast. He always brings up flaws in a religion, in a logical way, and then, people like you get offended, and then you call him an asshole.
#7 - pmsavenger
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Religion poisons everything. Do you see atheists running around killing people or blowing up buildings? No. I don't hate people who believe but I do hate those who follow so blindly that they let it cast a close-minded bigoted shadow on their life.
Being Christian is nothing like being "Christ-like." I don't give a **** what you believe in but if you act like a decent person then I'll give you the respect that you deserve
#46 to #7 - anon
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Don't even go there dude, funnyjunk is seriously full of religious nutjobs, your comment is absolutely true, only a blind person would disagree, don't look at your red thumbs as a bad thing, you just proved that religious people can't handle the truth, stupid people are more likely to be religious (fact). and they try to shame atheism by using stupid memes like neckbeard euphoric and **** like that. they have no real argument so they go down to name calling and insult, the lowest form of arguing.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2390774/Those-higher-intelligence-likely-believe-God-claims-new-review-63-scientific-studies-stretching-decades.html
#285 to #46 - pmsavenger
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For the kid who can't read: I said I don't hate people who believe. I hate those who discriminate against people for being different. Christians are some of the most hypocritical people I know. The things people do in the name of religion are astronomically disgusting. Stalin may have been an atheist but he was also a psychopath. By my logic, whether buddist, muslim, Christian, Jewish or atheist, just be a decent ******* human being and we can all get along. Quit shoving words down my throat because you're afraid Satan might getcha.
I will be completely content on my death bed. It's just another adventure and I have no fear of heaven nor hell BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXIST. Have fun on your knees beckoning to some sky daddy who doesn't give a **** whether you pass your exam or not, he's not listening to you OR the millions of starving people around the world. I'm a big girl, I don't believe in fairy tales.
Arguing with a creationist is like playing chess with a pigeon. All they're going to do is knock over the pieces and **** on the board while they strut around like they won.
#50 to #46 - dwarfman
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Also this has been an atheist haven for nearly 5 years. Nice try.
#72 to #50 - drekinn
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tbh the popular parts of the internet are usually more populated by atheists.
#73 to #72 - dwarfman
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Vocal minority with a stick up their asses.
#75 to #73 - drekinn
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so what is your religion?
#76 to #75 - dwarfman
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Roman Catholic by family, Agnostic Theist personally.
#77 to #76 - drekinn
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what makes you think there's a god? like what in your life made you draw that conclusion?
#78 to #77 - dwarfman
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I think the Hindu interpretation of "God". Meaning the the conscious, living energy of the universe itself.
#81 to #78 - drekinn
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so consciousness is god? or is the universe god? and without god would these entities not exist?
#83 to #81 - dwarfman
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A wise man once said we're made of star dust, that we're the universe trying to understand itself. Hindu religion has "gods" but they are avatars of the conscious universe.
#87 to #83 - drekinn
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So you are telling me that the universe is "god" but why is it not just the universe? why must you answer the unanswered questions, where we come from, what we are, we do not know these things and to claim that you do is ignorant and small minded, the universe is amazing and it's questions even more amazing why can you not embrace the unknown for what it is, why must you answer. we are star dust, that took billions of years, time unthinkable by our minds to slowly form atomic structures that make up the intelligent animal we call man, the fact that these stars evolved to think about themselves is literally the most beautiful thing.
#91 to #87 - dwarfman
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I don't know ****, but isn't that point of life to find the answers? Not just accuse others of being small minded for having different beliefs? The internet has lowered my opinion on atheists. Martin Luther questioned his own beliefs and that of his church, that sentiment took hold in the Catholics a century later. Skepticism keeps us asking. You're trying to catch me off guard and for that: Sod off ya cunt.
#96 to #91 - drekinn
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One of the cornerstones of knowledge is argument, if i just let you believe whatever **** you believe that's fine but you started a conversation with me so i am allowed to question and criticize your beliefs as you can mine, there is no point in holding a belief if you are not ready to defend it, i only seek the truth, i do not believe what i want but what has been shown by evidence to be convenient to believe. not everything i know is true but at least it's convenient for my life, praying to stop an earthquake is not convenient belief.
#97 to #96 - dwarfman
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I relayed my point to be spoken down to. It's a two way street broski.
#100 to #97 - drekinn
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you claim to have answers to the ultimate questions, that is ignorant, i was not speaking about your character but your single opinion, opinions can change, you were invited to prove me wrong or bring forth evidence for your claim which you did not and with logic and reasoning i can thereby deduce that your claim is not convenient belief.
#104 to #100 - dwarfman
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Did I state my answer was correct? Only one group of people know the answer to that: The Dead. They don't talk much, so it's up to the living to provide their best guess.
#109 to #104 - drekinn
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you do not have to guess, that is my point, the best answer in this case is "we don't know". if you do not state your claim to be correct there is no point in reason, if i can believe anything without correctness in mind i live a life of deception and inconvenience. if i told you that an invisible unicorn will rape your asshole if you don't drink 18000 starbucks coffees would you do it? ofcourse not because it's an invonvenient belief and based on no evidence.
#113 to #109 - dwarfman
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How can we debate such matters? The best scientific theory on creation was something from nothing which is a religious belief! As a species we will not know that answer anytime soon, we have other ventures to conquer first. We cannot live in the womb known earth. When we move to the stars and have a better grasp of the universe we'll have our answer one way or the other.
#121 to #113 - drekinn
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scientists do not claim anything as absolute truth and the big bang theory is just our most likely theory at the moment, your last line is absolutely spot on, we are constantly learning and adapting to our environment, we learn something new every day, how is that not a more reasonable pursuit than accepting religious answers as absolute truths? believing the earth was created by a big bang or believing rocks are made from hard stuff is convenient knowledge, i think you should read this definition of religious belief because it does not fit with believing something scientific .

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_belief
#123 to #121 - dwarfman
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How did we even get to this point? Carl Sagen explained that religion and science are not rivals despite what idiots on both sides of that debate say. Religion is cultural, and for the soul, science is for the betterment of man.
#137 to #113 - drekinn
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that's the problem, many religions claim scientific truths which are not backed up by any evidence, this is the problem atheists have, spirituality and religion are also not the same thing, you can be spiritual but not religious. Science is also answering questions which were usually answered by religion, like our ancestry and stars for example. that is why atheism is on the rise, more and more questions are being answered by science. being happy in life is a matter of mentality not religion, you can keep believing whatever you do, i fight for your freedom to do so, but don't for one second think i can't question or criticize those beliefs as i want people to do mine, thanks for the talk even if we kind of got off on the wrong foot. farewell
#142 to #137 - dwarfman
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Yes many do, the megachurchs in the US make a living of that. They are violating the law by being political as well, but no one is strong enough to go after them. This is why we separate church and state, however we still can't prevent the election of senators that hate gays/believe the world is 6,000 years old. Rather sad.
#49 to #46 - dwarfman
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Samfaggery is unforgivable.
#194 to #7 - anon
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just wait until you are on your death bed and then you will see who you are praying to
#223 to #7 - mrjunebug
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Comparing faith and organized religion is the most stupidest ******* thing anybody who opposes religion can do. By your logic, I should hate atheists because of Joseph Stalin. Yeah, he didn't kill millions of people in the name of religion, but what you have to understand is that wars, mass suicides, genocides, and mass murders will ALWAYS be around. Not because of religion, but because people are ******* assholes and psychopaths to begin with. I am not a religious man. But holy ****, you sound like a total cunt, dude.
#8 to #7 - dwarfman
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Famous Atheists of the 20th Century with Massive Death tolls in the name of their Beliefs:
Mao Zedong
Joseph Stalin
Pol Pot
Benito Mussolini
Than Shwe
Kim John II

These men have caused much heart ache to the world. Before you say "BUT DWARFMAN THEY DIDN'T DO IT IN THE NAME OF ATHEISM!" The only real religiously motivated mass kills you can cite are: Cults (Crazies), Hitler (Political), or the Crusades (Political again Broski). You can't judge others under different parameters than yourself. Atheism is nothing special, doesn't add to detract from humanity, like religion. Take off your fedora, and stop making an ideology look bad you stupid twat.

#125 to #8 - Anemophobia
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also famous people that claimed that their cause was for religion, was just using it as an excuse for political backing
#127 to #125 - dwarfman
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That was Martin Luther's criticism of the Catholics. It had become less about God and the teaching of Christ and more about the power it wielded over the nations of Europe.
#275 to #8 - anon
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Hitler=Cristian. And please find someone who killed for not beleving in a retarded child storry. who killed for atheism... please find it! and compare that ro religion. not just religuis peapole killing. but those who ******* DO IT FOR THERE RELIGION! CAN YOU ******* SEE THE DIFFRENCE YOU'RE A ******* UNEDUCATED CUNT!PISS OFF FROM THE NTERNETT AND SPREADING ********! DO SOME ******* RESARCH! AND **** SPELLCHEK! AND YOU!
#283 to #275 - dwarfman
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>Accuses me of spreading ********
>Posts as anon crying in caps
#209 to #8 - neurofuzzy
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I'll try to be polite and respectful. I'm not defending the content. Your statement "atheism is nothing special, doesn't add to detract from humanity, like religion," requires a much longer argument to back and is more inflammatory than calling someone a twat! It is not equivalent to your later statement "A faithful man and an atheist have the same propensity for evil." I'd assert that the concepts of an interfering god or an absolute morality are very harmful; I hope you'd agree (the list of examples I'd bring up would include "pro-lifers", opponents of gay marriage, opponents of stem cell research, etc., all of whom can end up harming others while maintaining a clear conscience). This puts agnosticism and atheism in a very special place.

Referring to your other arguments, I don't think "the conscious living energy of the universe" and "The best scientific theory on creation was something from nothing which is a religious belief" are meaningful statements. Whether "consciousness" is meaningful on a fundamental physical level is very arguable, and one can make an educated guess that it isn't. And the "something from nothing" thing doesn't have to be a religious belief. I'm a baby physicist, but I know that our basic questions may not make any sense when we talk about "what happened before the big bang?" We know (in scientific certainty) that space is being created every second, so it's a real possibility that there was no spacetime "before" the big bang. No spacetime = no time = no definition of "before". Common sense may break down, but mathematics/physics may not. And I do mean good, falsifiable physics. We'll see what future developments have in store [and due to the fact that this is really only understood by PhD physicists we also have to wonder what the present state of the theory is], but it's plain wrong to call such a claim "religious".
#282 to #209 - dwarfman
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Well it did spawn from the Catholic church, and was even held up as being the answer to the origin of the universe via "God".
#244 to #209 - mathematics
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bbbbbbboooorrrrrriiiiinnnnngggggg...
#286 to #244 - neurofuzzy
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I bet you don't even do math for fun you ******* nerd
#25 to #8 - slumberdonkey
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1.) None of those people killed people because they were atheistic. They killed people because they were bad people.
2.) Kim John Il isn't a person. Kim "Jong" Il made everyone in his country believe that he was god. (This is not atheism)
3.) All of the people killed by stalin+All of the people killed by Pol Pot+All of the people killed by Hitler and any other one of those people will never amount to anywhere near the amount of people that were killed in the name of god. In the old testament they used to just genocide an entire city because they didn't like them. Not to mention the crusades, the inquisition, suicide bombings etc.

I really don't care if you say that atheists have killed a lot of people, but to suggest that the amount of people killed by people who don't believe in god is less than that of people killing in the name of god is outright ridiculous and I won't stand for it.
#30 to #25 - dwarfman
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The point is you dumb twat is if you removed ALL religion these crimes would still happen. Cultural differences between two groups will always provoke hostilities. We wouldn't have suicide bombings if the CIA/KGB didn't train the ***** to do so during the cold war.
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Who the **** cares? Jesus you're being so damn stupid. If we remove religion then that is one less problem to worry about. Just because bad **** would still happen does not mean we simply keep religion about because "whatever man, bad things still happen".

Kids are getting dumber and dumber these days.
#86 to #84 - dwarfman
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>2013, almost 2014
>Anon thinks his opinion is worthwhile

A faithful man and an atheist have the same propensity for evil. In fact I listed several of the latter above. Religion has done more good for the world than bad, if you are going to focus on the bad, I will do the same. Stop being a hypocrite, no worse sin in the world.
#93 to #86 - anon
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Except for when the religion advocates certain philosophies that endanger the lives of others, whether it is due to barbaric behaviour, i.e. what has happened throughout history, by all the major religions (do you even history, faget), or simple lies? The universe isn't 6000 years old.

So no, take two people, one religious and one who isn't, and I'd wager that the religious guy has a higher change of being a nutjob.

Read some statistics just to see how bad it really is. And stop being a butthurt little fckwit just because somebody disagrees with you. I'm guessing you're American? top lel
#95 to #93 - dwarfman
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It's the responsibility of the citizens to keep those nuts out of office, Muslims have to regulate themselves (See Turkey), and the religious community needs to take care of idiots. You're the bigot asshole here "I'M ATHEIST I AM NOT NUTS PAY ATTENTION TO MY AMAZING INTELLECT" **** you man, good job acting like those you're looking down upon.
#139 to #86 - brutallyhonest
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What good has it brung, honestly? And how does it over-weigh the bad?


Not here to argue, just to gain enlightenment in a topic I'm ignorant to, due to the fact that I think people spread so much hate and negativity.. whether believer or non, that I just avoid it, generally. But I'd like to know, what positive has it -actually- gave us?
#153 to #139 - dwarfman
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Oh and the catholic church spawned the big bang theory. Just google it.
#34 to #30 - slumberdonkey
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Ok, my problem isn't that people hurt people. Many people are dumb and don't realize that hurting people is bad. My problem is when people kill people in the name of a thing that there is absolutely no empirical evidence for, because that other person doesn't believe the same thing as them. There's a difference between what I do (type strongly worded comments to people on the internet for believing something different from me) and what religious extremists do (fly planes into buildings, torture innocent people, kill millions, etc)
#48 to #34 - dwarfman
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Like how people kill each other for political beliefs that have no empirical evidence for? Get over yourself, the real atheists are rolling in their graves from the actions of dumb twats like you.
#39 - hydromatic
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That's.. Really not the same Ricky.

People choose their religion.. Nobody ever chose to get cancer..


I have nothing against atheism at all, but Ricky Gervais can really be a ******* asshole
#173 to #39 - ninjaspartan
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If you smoke, then you're basically choosing cancer. **** if you don't want to get cancer, that's not how it works. Muslims want to choose to be Islam but don't want the racist steryotypes that go with it. Lots of Christians want to be accepting of everyone but their Bible says otherwise.

If you're religious, you are cancer. Get it? Both are choices, both have resulting consequences, both decisions are caused by you. So yes. It's the same.
#247 to #173 - mrdrpage
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With that logic, a slave being forced to work under a hot sun who develops Melanoma made the choice to get skin cancer.

The construction worker who was exposed to asbestos unknowingly during deconstruction of a decaying building CHOSE to get lung cancer.

You're ******* stupid. Don't reproduce.
#45 to #39 - foromil
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Au contraire, good sir.
#3 - xtwinblade
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this is so ******* stupid.
Religion is like an orginisation, you are a part of it. You join it and it is a lifestyle.
Cancer is a deadly defect that haunts people and ruins their life.

if you hate a religion then you stand with the opposite opinions of a follower of that religion. and he/she has probably valued their life choices from this religion, which you hate. That gives good reason to hate the followers as well.
#253 to #3 - xxiixx
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I think a better analogy would have been "Just because I hate smoking doesn't mean I hate smokers."
Not saying I agree with him and his views, but it makes much better sense.
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Anyone else think this is just Gervais using an analogy to call religion cancer without directly saying it?