Quick movie plots. . LORD OF THE RINGS Gandalf instead of walking the ring to Mount Doom why not use the giant eagles you know and fly? Freda that is a much bet
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Quick movie plots

LORD OF THE RINGS
Gandalf instead of walking the ring to Mount Doom
why not use the giant eagles you know and fly?
Freda that is a much better idea I' m glad you though of that!
RADIATOR
lil have two men take him to the woods
and take care of it sire.
TWO MEN?! He' s '? Roman general
you idiot, send twenty and make sure
it gets clone
Please allow me to fight the PM ans
with you.
You can' t fight in the main group but stand
back and throw spears all day little buddy!
STAR WARS: EPISODE ll
I will make sure he is dead by cutting his head "
PULP
Mr, gotta have an opinion...
Hold on I gotta put the sat on my
gun Jules is hitting some bumps...
THE HANOVER
may ems asas will HERE!!!
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User avatar #19 - zomaru ONLINE (12/10/2013) [+] (5 replies)
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Oh My ******* God.
Every comment doesn't need to say the exact same thing.
We get it, The eagles weren't an option.
Now stop saying the exact same thing.
User avatar #5 - zacisghandi (12/09/2013) [-]
still find it annoying that people use the "why didn't they just fly the eagles to mordor" thing, seriously it's been debunked hundreds of times, and even still just accept its part of the story!
#121 to #5 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
lol debunked? k, cause mordor is real. douche.
#59 to #5 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
Yeah "hurrr durrr egol r da very cool. dey don't be messin arond with da mortal on midle erf. dis i reed in smaliron"

***** shut the **** up. Obviously the story would have been **** if it was this easy, but there should have been more absolute on why it wouldn't work.
The obvious fact is, Tolkien forgot to consider it, or forgot to include it when he was beginning to write LOTR.

Had he had it on his mind, he would would have brought it up at some point early on, specifically at the Council of Elrond.

It would have went on like this: "Well Mithrandir, why don't we just fly the piece of **** to the mountain?" Gandalf: " ***** that ain't gonna work because reason and reason and reason."

User avatar #107 to #59 - hudis (12/10/2013) [-]
Tolkien was never very absolute or direct about anything. Just wasn't his style of writing or storytelling. The LotR books require a lot of reading between the lines and imagining things for yourself that aren't there. Same with the other stories set in that universe. I believe he was a strong advocate of the "The reader writes half the story"-principle, although he never mentioned it.
User avatar #95 to #59 - hanabro (12/10/2013) [-]
***** that aint gonna work because they're trying to sneak the ring in, and not get **** all over by the Nazgul and their Fell Beasts. If they were to fly the ring in, Sauron would see them coming and send reinforcements. They had to slip in a tiny group, you could say a fellowship, in order to go unnoticed. That's why they didn't knock down the Black Gates with a ******* army. It never would have worked.
#10 to #5 - omnipotentsoap (12/10/2013) [-]
how has it been debunked?
User avatar #12 to #10 - BowChickaBowWow (12/10/2013) [-]
The temptation of the ring would be too much for the eagles. And that's without even factoring in the Nazgûl.
#171 to #12 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
It takes months for Boromir to succumb to the temptation, and he craves the ring from the beginning. Surely the noble eagles wouldn't get corrupted in just a couple of days?
User avatar #193 to #171 - dreigamos (12/10/2013) [-]
actually i was told that the ring corrupted the older species much faster and worse, hence why hobbits, who were not around for so long were quite immune to it, but the eagles re very old etc, so the ring would have corrupted them horribly
User avatar #229 to #193 - licestr ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
Its' true but it also depends on the power, hw fast they succumb. And eagles are quite the ****** .
User avatar #203 to #171 - thepinkestofthepie ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
The more powerful the being that holds the Ring, the faster it is corrupted.
#108 to #12 - gerfox (12/10/2013) [-]
I always thought it had something to do with magic 'n **** . Like "eagles can't fly into Mordor, or the realms under it's influence because they've fallen to darkness."
User avatar #231 to #108 - licestr ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
We''ll they would have been ****** at the end of the third movie if eagles couldn't get there.
#273 to #231 - gerfox (12/10/2013) [-]
Yeah, that's why I thought this was what happened - that when the ring was destroyed, and the "spell" of darkness was broken, they could fly freely around.
User avatar #68 to #12 - buttinspecter ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
Then again, it seems like the temptation is based on how close you are to the ring, so they could've carried the ring on a really long string. Hell, Gandalf had to almost touch it, just to get a response.
#83 to #68 - ninjaspawn (12/10/2013) [-]
ohh no the string broke and we dropped it into the giant forest of its lost forever.
User avatar #92 to #83 - buttinspecter ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
Interesting title. "The Giant Forest of It's Lost Forever".
User avatar #52 to #12 - Crusader (12/10/2013) [-]
Yet they still fly in at the end

WITH THE VOLCANO ERUPTING
User avatar #54 to #52 - eanirae (12/10/2013) [-]
After the Nazguls have been distracted and the Ring has been destroyed. How did you not get this?
User avatar #132 to #54 - Crusader (12/10/2013) [-]
Weren't the Eagles there in the battle just before the ring was destroyed?

After the ring was destroyed they just hopped skipped and jumped over the wall to pick up Frodo
User avatar #135 to #132 - eanirae (12/10/2013) [-]
Joined by Gandalf, I think it seems plausible, that they'd pick up Frodo and Sam.
User avatar #208 to #52 - commontroll (12/10/2013) [-]
Not only with the Nazguls distracted (and their flying ferret lizards) but also the MASSIVE ORC ARMY WITH THOUSANDS OF ARCHERS.

An eagle simply wouldn't survive going in alone.
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User avatar #270 to #208 - Crusader (12/10/2013) [-]
Who said that they had to fly in alone?
User avatar #272 to #270 - commontroll (12/10/2013) [-]
Yeah, except they couldn't get help then, because the armies of Gondor were bogged down, and the armies of Isengard (which was AT LEAST 10,000 Uruk-hai, on top of thousands of the Wild Men of the North) would have easily overrun Rohan without their king actually leading them (the elves actually didn't give a **** about helping, they were getting the hell out of Dodge) so without the help of Rohan, or the ghosts of Christmas Past, Gondor would have also fallen.

Oh, and don't forget that the orcs didn't die when the ring was destroyed. They lived on. They would have still finished the job in Gondor and the eagles that did go would be going on a suicide mission. The human kingdoms would still be torn apart, and everything else would have fallen.

So sure MAYBE they could destroy the ring, but the world would have been just as ****** .

For some reason that was replied to me. Weird.
#254 to #12 - inkw (12/10/2013) [-]
That's right indeed.

However is Hobbit flawed? In the first movie eagles saved them from the falling tree, didn't they have the ring with them?
#13 to #12 - omnipotentsoap (12/10/2013) [-]
thank you I read the more detailed version below
User avatar #189 to #10 - meganinja (12/10/2013) [-]
Also, in addition to what everybody else said, the Eagles were neutral. They finally picked a side at the end, and saved Frodo and Sam.
User avatar #198 to #10 - duedum (12/10/2013) [-]
Wouldn't Sauron see the eagles if they were flying into Mordor, anyway? Plus the temptation part.
#112 to #10 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
There's also the problem of corruption from the ring as you get closer to Mt Doom. It's why Isildur wouldn't throw the ring in during the first war.

If the eagles flew them to Mt Doom, Frodo wouldn't have thrown the ring in. Gollum was necessary as a sacrifice to destroy the ring.
User avatar #87 to #5 - TheAvenger (12/10/2013) [-]
imgur.com/gallery/jLEka They explained in the War of The North game
#28 - italianchef ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
to be fair in the Battle of Thermopylae the 300 were pretty screwed anyways
to be fair in the Battle of Thermopylae the 300 were pretty screwed anyways
User avatar #165 to #28 - ledd (12/10/2013) [-]
Yeah, it should rather focus on Spartacus's ******* bad aim
#63 to #28 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
Techincaly, there were more than 300 spartans, and there were also a few thousand athenians if i remember correctly.

With that many men, and with inferior persian troops just face-tanking a phanlanx, it is possible that the greeks could have held off the persians if they weren't outflanked.

Even if they wouldn't, does "phyrric" victory ring a bell? They would have probably lost so many men that they couldn't really push forward and take a city.
User avatar #139 to #63 - inferuz (12/10/2013) [-]
That's true there were folks from all Greece not just Spartans. But in the final battle there was just a small amount of suckers, this is what wiki says "300 espartanos, 700 tespios, 400 tebanos and maybe a little more".

So yeah, that Achiles glory of dying in battle was a REALLY smart idea, whoever invented it, was smart as **** .
#7 - Keithazoid (12/10/2013) [-]
Regarding the Eagle theory. The Nazgul Fell beast would have caught them in a matter of hours if they even got close
#115 to #7 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
Lets not forget army of orcs withs bows its not not like arrows can't reach the sky's then there eye of suron who's gaze can kill
#173 to #7 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
The eagles are faster than the nazgul
User avatar #29 to #7 - mojusk (12/10/2013) [-]
LOTR - The Eagles are Coming

you sure about that?
#42 to #29 - lackwit (12/10/2013) [-]
That was without the 			*******		 Witch King of Angmar. The 			************		 who made Gandalf cry like a little white bitch.    
   
Nine fell beasts, lead by one of the most powerful magicians in the world. The Eagle's would be like "			****		 that"
That was without the ******* Witch King of Angmar. The ************ who made Gandalf cry like a little white bitch.

Nine fell beasts, lead by one of the most powerful magicians in the world. The Eagle's would be like " **** that"

#164 to #29 - sotalokki (12/10/2013) [-]
I always enjoy seeing that one nazgul falling off from the fell beast, looks ******* badass
#145 to #7 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
I'm not sure they would've been easily killed by the Naz'gul as the eagles are sent by the gods themselves. They only help out Gandalf because of the debt that's owed etc., but the only reason he's friendly enough with them is because he's sent by the gods as well. The eagles and the five wizards are the only interference the gods have had with Middle Earth.
#191 to #145 - bellajoy (12/10/2013) [-]
Thank you! I thought that I was never going to see the real answer in here.
#210 to #7 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
Not True.    
   
Gandalf would fly too.
Not True.

Gandalf would fly too.
User avatar #214 to #210 - admiralen ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
he couldnt do that **** when he was the grey
#268 to #214 - thewitchking (12/10/2013) [-]
Pfff..., I beat Gandalf's old ass.
Pfff..., I beat Gandalf's old ass.
#64 to #7 - epist (12/10/2013) [-]
actually i think eagles are just a summon like every frp games have. and summons have a time and cooldown. othervise it will be overpowered unit in the book.
#200 to #7 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
Also something they don't mention in the movies is that the lord of the eagles has better **** to do than fly people to mount doom. They're not under Gandalf's control, and watch over their land in the north, which at the time is under threat. The only reason they came to his aid in the hobbit was because they saw what was happening in their valley. Not because Gandalf whispered to a moth.
#202 to #7 - junkiegirl (12/10/2013) [-]
also everyone would see them and know exactly where they were, wouldnt they?
<----only lotr thing i got
User avatar #117 to #7 - kalka (12/10/2013) [-]
During the war the eagles takes down the Nazgul...
User avatar #53 to #7 - monkeysniper (12/10/2013) [-]
That and if you've read the hobbit the eagles themselves say that if they got close to the lonely mountain for example that humans would fire arrows at them and **** , thinking they were going to steal their livestock (which the eagles admitted to doing sometimes)
User avatar #179 to #7 - thewitchking (12/10/2013) [-]
I look badass in that picture.
User avatar #1 - DoctorDinosaur (12/09/2013) [-]
The eagles wouldn't have worked.
User avatar #2 to #1 - tostito (12/09/2013) [-]
why?
User avatar #3 to #2 - moshthun (12/09/2013) [-]
Copy pasted from tumblr, because I didn't feel like explaining all this **** again.

The Eagles are part of what’s called The Arda. Along with the Ents*, the Eagles are not effected by the tidings of the humans, the elves (to a degree, the elders of the first age imbued them with life - but the elders were essentially demigods in their own right) or the dwarves. They simply do not care. For why would they? The eagles have no agenda that is compromised by Sauron’s oppression.

The eagles are arrogant. Their pride would keep them from simply delivering people into Mordor like a taxi. Furthermore, Gwaihir (the Eagle lord**) is a Maia spirit (the same rank of Valar as Gandalf) and hence, after the fall of Morgoth, is bound by Valar law to not deceive fellow Valar; and hence would have had to tell Gwaihir that he has the one ring - there is nothing stopping the other eagles from just stealing the ring for their selves and coveting it at their eerie.

The only reason they help Gandalf is because Gwaihir owes him a favour. The only obligation the eagles have to help anyone else is to Radagast the Brown (of the Istari, the same order that Gandalf, pre-descent Saruman, and the two blue wizards Alatar and Pallando) because he basically gave Thorondor and the other eagles the rank of Maia, by essentially instructing the early Maia on how to morph into them. Gwaihir owed Gandalf a small favour, not winning the entire war.
User avatar #4 to #3 - moshthun (12/09/2013) [-]
The main reason that the eagles didn’t help more is this: The Maia (Minor Valar - the Valar are the LOTR Deities) are there to guide. Gandalf is a Maia, he is a teacher to the people of middle earth; and, just as a teacher doesn’t take your exams for you, he didn’t fight their fights for them. Gandalf was so powerful*** he was forbidden from challenging Sauron directly and, along with the other Istari, forbidden from dominating the people of middle earth. He could’ve stood outside the gates of Minas Tirith, farted and every orc there (including the Witch King of Angmar - his supposed equivalent) would have dropped dead. Same principle applies to Gwaihir, he can only guide, he couldn’t win the war for them.

*The ents only get involved because half of them have been exterminated by Saruman lawl.
**Strictly speaking, Gwaihir is the Windlord and Thorondor was the original Eagle Lord in the first age. But it’s third age now so, hey ho.
***Incidentally Gandalf, or Olorin The Wise as he was known before passing to Middle Earth was actually more powerful than Saruman (as stated by Manwe.) The only reason Saruman was head of the order was due to Gandalf’s modesty and the fact that Saruman and the then Gorthaur (Sauron) both studied under Aule. Hence he was more familiar with the types of weaponry that would be used against them.
#6 to #4 - Rascal (12/09/2013) [-]
It didn't seem like Gandalf was holding back against the witch king when they went head to head, and his staff was shattered into a million peices?
User avatar #16 to #6 - lean (12/10/2013) [-]
The wizards were given staffs as a conduit for their power in middle earth. They are limited by their staffs as well.
#31 to #6 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
im about 75% sure that didnt happen in the book, and was peter jackson wanting to film an awesome scene
User avatar #50 to #3 - pallando (12/10/2013) [-]
You summoned, mortal?
#17 to #2 - jakatackka (12/10/2013) [-]
moshthun is absolutely correct. There's also the issue of the Nazgûl and their fell-beasts, or those giant flying death-dragons that could easily kill the eagles.
#15 - therealtotodile ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
Okay the LoTR one. In the books the eagles say they dont want to carry something so evil, and besides the nazgul would have ****** their **** .
The 300 one, they are a cohesive unit. Spartans war tactics were like turning gears and cogs. The mutant (I dont remember his name) would have just been a rusty stuck cog.
And in star wars, he probably didn't have the heart to kill anakin himself. He thought he was done for anyways.
User avatar #20 to #15 - itemexchange (12/10/2013) [-]
mutants were killed at birth during spartan time so i mean it wouldnt have happened anyways
User avatar #22 to #20 - therealtotodile ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
in the movie, he said his mother hid him from the council so he wouldnt be killed.
User avatar #23 to #22 - itemexchange (12/10/2013) [-]
but what im saying is that im sure theyd actually be much meaner to him isntead of nicer had it been more accurate.
to them itsa beast pretending to be a soldier
in the movie all the y said was that he was too crippled to fight (which was true enough)
#38 to #15 - scrumdillyicious (12/10/2013) [-]
You're right about the star wars one. Obi wan didnt have the heart to kill anakin. But in the Hobbit, the eagles carried Bilbo while he had the ring. Although, maybe they refused to knowingly carry the ring. I dont know.
#91 to #38 - retepraamrod (12/10/2013) [-]
I heard that the eagles were almost like really powerful gods, and they didn't want to meddle in the affairs of the lowly Middle Earthers. They did try to do small things like help Ghandalf out in order to push the world in the right direction.
User avatar #39 to #15 - nyuORlucy (12/10/2013) [-]
its not that he didnt have the heart. jedi are all about mercy. anakin when he was still a jedi says to mace windu that he should kill palpatine cause he was unarmed. also obiwan finishing off anakin would be giving into his anger since there was no need to finish him at that time
User avatar #72 to #15 - gearshift (12/10/2013) [-]
So uh...obi wan let his beloved student, someone that was like a son to him and he ha trained for god knows how many years, a boy who he has believed in from the very start and tried to save to the best if his abilities when he turned to the dark side, someone who he probably engaged in homosexual activities with during spare time, burn to a slow painful crisp in the fires of ******* lava pool instead of getting a quick beheading?

Obi wan was a cold ************ .
User avatar #26 to #15 - masdercheef (12/10/2013) [-]
Obi-wan couldn't finish Anakin off, since he didn't have the heart to do it....


but he would let him slowly burn to death, that's all fine and dandy!
Yeah, I fail to understand the logic employed there. As far as Obi-Wan knew, he was dead either way. Wouldn't it be better to allow him to die quickly? A bit more mercifully, perhaps?
User avatar #222 to #26 - admiralen ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
it was probably a little batman begins in it "i wont kill you, but i dont have to save you"
User avatar #33 to #26 - therealtotodile ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
That's what I thought too at first. But it could be perceived either way.
#60 to #15 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
the way you described the spartan battle formation is identical to all professional battle formations in the history of man. that deformed guy could have chucked javalines at the enemy from behind the hoplite lines; the spartans did have contingents of light infantry who did that. you happen to be an expert on this topic, indeed.
#21 to #15 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
For the 300 one, I woulda just put that hunchback ****** in front of the actual line. Might as well let him fight in front of us instead of with us.
User avatar #56 to #15 - swetgamer (12/10/2013) [-]
Why not put the mutant together with the non-spartans. You know, the ones who run out with no formation or strategy. Let him die with them...
User avatar #103 to #56 - therealtotodile ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
He wanted to fight as a spartan with the spartans. And Leonidas was having none of that.
User avatar #177 to #103 - swetgamer (12/10/2013) [-]
He didn't say that specifically.
User avatar #269 to #177 - therealtotodile ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
He was dressed as a spartan, was addressing directly to the king of spartans, and literally said "allow me to fight at your side"
User avatar #277 to #269 - swetgamer (12/12/2013) [-]
Oh. All right then, I'll take your word for it.
#118 - jordanish (12/10/2013) [-]
Ok:
Everyone and their mother is explaining why LotR wouldn't work so I won't
I got nothing on Gladiator (I haven't seen it)
In 300 the whole reason they didn't let him in the platoon was because he couldn't hold his shield in a way that would protect himself and those next to him (the whole point in their formation) and he would have endangered himself and those around him if he had been allowed to help
Vega (Travolta's character) is supposed to be a moron with no gun safety. The whole basis of his character is that he's a dumb rookie who keeps making **** hard for Jules (Jackson's character) by doing dumb **** without properly thinking of what the dangers or consequences are
And in the Hangover: They were hungover you dumb **** . They'd gotten trashed and taken roofies, had a panic attack over the tiger in their room and the fact that their best friend was missing. They weren't thinking clearly and were freaked out by everything so their reaction is totally understandable
#120 to #118 - lastweek (12/10/2013) [-]
That picture gets me every time   
   
&lt;- mfw all the walls of text in comments  it's funny because we've already heard it
That picture gets me every time

<- mfw all the walls of text in comments it's funny because we've already heard it
#119 - eddymolly (12/10/2013) [-]
The Lord of the Rings one.    
   
Yeah, because it's a great idea to fly eagles over tens of thousands of orcs with bows, siege engines, catapults, ballistas etc. Also, flying past a massive horde of fell beasts, magic Nazgul and in direct sight of Sauron, whilst also flying through a cloud of volcanic ash and pyroclastic clouds (which have temps in the 1000's of degrees) to try and either land in front of the volcano at which point they would get slaughtered, or fly above it and drop it in, where they would just get burnt to death.
The Lord of the Rings one.

Yeah, because it's a great idea to fly eagles over tens of thousands of orcs with bows, siege engines, catapults, ballistas etc. Also, flying past a massive horde of fell beasts, magic Nazgul and in direct sight of Sauron, whilst also flying through a cloud of volcanic ash and pyroclastic clouds (which have temps in the 1000's of degrees) to try and either land in front of the volcano at which point they would get slaughtered, or fly above it and drop it in, where they would just get burnt to death.
#154 to #119 - thewitchking (12/10/2013) [-]
You see this giant ************ ? Yeah, I wouldn't let them pass.
User avatar #123 to #122 - halotalim (12/10/2013) [-]
Still didn't stop him from joining battle, fighting the Ring Wraths, Leading the Charge at Helms Deep, and battling on the outskirts of Mordor.
User avatar #142 to #123 - schneidend (12/10/2013) [-]
Hitting a bunch of savages with a stick, a sword, and the occasional lightning bolt is not the same thing as unleashing your full Jesus powers on them.
#148 to #142 - agonix (12/10/2013) [-]
Implying he didn't unleash words of power in goblin mountains.
User avatar #149 to #148 - schneidend (12/10/2013) [-]
In The Hobbit, you mean? I think that was also just a bolt of lightning and a fireball, but it's been like ten years since I read it.
#151 to #149 - agonix (12/10/2013) [-]
Gandalf in Goblin town - The hobbit

There
User avatar #174 to #122 - centurionprime (12/10/2013) [-]
this makes the lord of the rings like six times cooler now.

I must read the books.
User avatar #36 - nthmetal (12/10/2013) [-]
Why would Obi-Wan kill Anikin?
That would mean we'd only have the prequels to watch.
That's a bad thing.
If Anakin lives we will get Episodes IV, V, & VI.
#111 to #36 - gerfox (12/10/2013) [-]
(and VII?)
#206 - IceViper (12/10/2013) [-]
you could not have gotten on the eagles with the ring in the first place because they are AFRAID OF THE RING.

so even you guys who are saying "just get on the eagle and get off like a mile before sauron", it wouldnt work.
#215 to #206 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
Should be the other way around. Travel in stealth until close to Mordor, then mount the eagles and quickly fly to Mt. Doom.
User avatar #224 to #215 - IceViper (12/10/2013) [-]
you couldnt even do that because the Eagles wouldnt let Frodo get on as long as he had the ring.
#242 to #224 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
If a delegation of Elves and wizards asked them to, I'm pretty sure they would.
User avatar #240 to #206 - xolotyl **User deleted account** (12/10/2013) [-]
Threaten to kill those ******* eagles with the ring and Gandalf's magic if they don't stop being pussies and help save the world
#127 - ultracombo (12/10/2013) [-]
Okay, why don't you really think for five seconds about the eagle 			********		. Even if the eagles WOULD have flown everyone to Mordor(which they absolutely would not), let's go over this.   
Where would they be flying?   
Mordor   
What watches over Mordor?   
The Eye of Sauron   
What is extremely noticeable?   
GIANT 			*******		 EAGLES   
All it would take would be Sauron seeing them, being like, &quot;Yo, shoot them down for me please?&quot; and every goddamn archer in Mordor would shoot them the hell down. And even if ALL of those archers missed EVERY time, have we forgotten about the Winged Nazgul??? Jesus Christ, think, people!
Okay, why don't you really think for five seconds about the eagle ******** . Even if the eagles WOULD have flown everyone to Mordor(which they absolutely would not), let's go over this.
Where would they be flying?
Mordor
What watches over Mordor?
The Eye of Sauron
What is extremely noticeable?
GIANT ******* EAGLES
All it would take would be Sauron seeing them, being like, "Yo, shoot them down for me please?" and every goddamn archer in Mordor would shoot them the hell down. And even if ALL of those archers missed EVERY time, have we forgotten about the Winged Nazgul??? Jesus Christ, think, people!
User avatar #141 to #127 - schneidend (12/10/2013) [-]
Also, the eagles are capricious and proud, they don't just show up whenever the **** Gandalf feels like it. They owe him a couple favors, but are not his slaves. THEY ARE THE PRINCES OF THE ******* SKY OR SOME **** .
#153 to #127 - thewitchking (12/10/2013) [-]
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, you're right.
#157 to #127 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
Please read comment 124 and debunk my argument there
User avatar #172 to #127 - centurionprime (12/10/2013) [-]
whydoyouhavetoruineverythingross
#18 - Lepain (12/10/2013) [-]
I know the eagle thing wouldn't work cause the nazgul, but couldn't they have just flown like 90% of the way there then walked?
#147 - agonix (12/10/2013) [-]
Just fyi, nazguls didn't have fellbeasts at the time Frodo got the ring.
User avatar #183 to #147 - anonymoose (12/10/2013) [-]
What makes you say that?
User avatar #192 to #147 - azraelthemage (12/10/2013) [-]
FYI, you don't use fellbeasts when you're trying to not attract too much attention. And before you say anything about their cloaks, they don't exist on the mortal plain of existence. They're wraths after all. The cloaks allow them to deal with mortals.
#152 - thewitchking (12/10/2013) [-]
Eagles in Mordor? I wouldn't let them pass anyway.
Eagles in Mordor? I wouldn't let them pass anyway.
#156 to #152 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
You aren't even in Mordor most of the times, and don't forget your trusty Nazgul isn't as fast as the eagles.
#158 to #156 - thewitchking (12/10/2013) [-]
Nu-uh, my Nazgul has bigger wings than those Eagles.   
So technically, I would fly faster.
Nu-uh, my Nazgul has bigger wings than those Eagles.
So technically, I would fly faster.
User avatar #182 to #158 - anonymoose (12/10/2013) [-]
You are a Nazgul, you mean your felled beast.
#188 to #182 - thewitchking (12/10/2013) [-]
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#159 to #158 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
The books say that the eagles are faster. Don't stop replying though, I wanna see how many witch-king gifs you've got saved up.
User avatar #161 to #159 - wcpapier (12/10/2013) [-]
even if the eagles are faster, saurons eye sees all so it gives the nazgul enough time to come to morder and just chill till they arrive.
#163 to #161 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
Not if they go about it a little more stealthily. Please read comment #124 below for a more elaborate explanation.
#160 to #159 - thewitchking (12/10/2013) [-]
Idc what the books says.
Idc what the books says.
#166 to #160 - awesomesaucetime (12/10/2013) [-]
doesnt matter which is faster, it took a long time for gandalf to contact rataghast. he couldnt just do it from the start because he didnt need him at first (he thought elrond would take it)
#196 to #152 - yosephiab (12/10/2013) [-]
Oh God your name..
#255 to #204 - salihzzz (12/10/2013) [-]
the bitchking suits you more

now look at my cock
#256 to #255 - thewitchking (12/10/2013) [-]
Nah, 			*****		. This helmet suits me gangsta.   
   
Just look at it.   #Swag
Nah, ***** . This helmet suits me gangsta.

Just look at it. #Swag
#259 to #256 - salihzzz (12/10/2013) [-]
but you lost to a girl
User avatar #197 to #152 - steammadewalrus (12/10/2013) [-]
You gurl.

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User avatar #14 - shadowstepone ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
he couldn't send the eagles over at any time. They are direct servants of god, and god only sends them down for extreme emergencies.

also, spears are expensive. there's a reason each soldier only had one.
#61 to #14 - Rascal (12/10/2013) [-]
you can't throw a spear accuratly. too long and its balanced specifically for melee combat. javalines were used for throwing. much cheaper and lighter for accuracy.
#257 - thedonkeykong (12/10/2013) [-]
anakin was the chosen one, the one who would end the reign of the sith and he ******* did it. he was the one who killed the emperor in episode 6 and died afterwards, which means he fulfilled his ******* task. just only a few years later than expected by the jedi and in another way. if obi wan killed anakin, dark sidius would look for a new apprentice like he always did and his reign may have never ended.

and the eagle issue is explained enough in other other comments.
#258 to #257 - thedonkeykong (12/10/2013) [-]
darth sidius, not dark sidius. bad mistake
#167 - anisbanana (12/10/2013) [-]
The part where the mutated thing goes to the Spartan and asks to fight.

Last Sunday, my school wont he state championship in football. Before the game we went to our school's theater and watched this movie to kill time until the game started. That deformed guy reminds me of a kid that wanted to join are football team, but he was short and had some deformed arm which made it very small, he couldn't lift it just like this guy.

In the movie, the Spartan tells him if he wants to help, he can carry water for the warriors. Kole, the deformed kid at our school, turned out to be the waterboy for our Varsity team. Just thought I'd share.
#234 - pulluspardus (12/10/2013) [-]
You forgot about this giant flaming vagina in mordor that can burn through flesh just by looking at it, and as far as I know, those eagles and frodo are made of flesh, thats the whole reason why they didn't send an army of midgets arguing about potatoes and tea looking after frodo but instead they sent the dynamic duo and tried to distract the rest of the 			*************		 to war against dumb bitch humans and flaming gay pointy eared immortals,
You forgot about this giant flaming vagina in mordor that can burn through flesh just by looking at it, and as far as I know, those eagles and frodo are made of flesh, thats the whole reason why they didn't send an army of midgets arguing about potatoes and tea looking after frodo but instead they sent the dynamic duo and tried to distract the rest of the ************* to war against dumb bitch humans and flaming gay pointy eared immortals,
#55 - jaked ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
Asking why they couldn't use the eagles is like asking why we couldn't have won WWII by flying a helicopter into Berlin and killing Hitler.
#73 to #55 - iamzues (12/10/2013) [-]
Because we didn't have the technology at the time?
#76 to #73 - selfrazedzealot (12/10/2013) [-]
he's saying the eagles would'ave have been killed... like the copters that we did indeed have the technology for... now that i think about it... maybe he only uses the eagles in the most absolute danger because they are very vulnerable... although they do **** up some nazgul at some point i think...
User avatar #84 to #76 - xpurpledragonx ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
And as far as I know, he doesn't really control the eagles he's more so just asking for a ride and they go" welp here's the end of the line."
#88 to #84 - selfrazedzealot (12/10/2013) [-]
ok so maybe what i should have said since after reading more comments its widely accepted that the eagles are entirely self decision making is that they only risk their lives for the people when its absolutely necessary .
User avatar #89 to #88 - xpurpledragonx ONLINE (12/10/2013) [-]
yup or if someones done a great favor or something deserving of their help.
#79 to #76 - iamzues (12/10/2013) [-]
The helicopters around, would not of been able to of been combat capable. So we didn't have the technology.
#81 to #79 - selfrazedzealot (12/10/2013) [-]
hm... sounds awefully familiar to what i thought about the birds...
#82 to #81 - iamzues (12/10/2013) [-]
I don't give two ***** about no eagles. Lord of the Rings is an awful trilogy. I was just poking holes in his argument.
#85 to #82 - selfrazedzealot (12/10/2013) [-]
but you didnt really poke any holes...
#86 to #85 - iamzues (12/10/2013) [-]
He asked why we didn't take helicopters into Berlin. Because we didn't have the technology. That's a hole.
#90 to #86 - selfrazedzealot (12/10/2013) [-]
he was debating the contents idea to use the eagles. he was saying the eagles wouldnt be able to. he then compared that to flying helicopters into berlin. (which wouldnt be able to). then you said we didnt have the technology (arguing his statement) so what i got from you is that "the eagles couldnt fly to mordor because they didnt have the ability" and that "helicopters couldnt go to berlin and kill hitlers because we didnt have the technology". when the eagles could go to mordor and the helicopters could go to berlin but it would all be suicide. he wasnt wondering he was comparing with expectations that everyone knew that he knew that the helicopters/eagles wouldnt survive
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